The Water Cooler – Graduation from 5th & 8th Grade

May 29, 2014 12:00 pm · 53 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon!

Today’s question:

In your opinion, do you think kids should only have a graduation from high school, or do you think it’s important for them to have ceremonies for 5th and 8th grade, too?

Talk about it.

High School only May 29, 2014 at 12:06 PM

You don’t even have to do anything to get through 8th grade.. Everyone gets pushed through

The Professor May 29, 2014 at 12:07 PM

It’s a stupid waste of time designed to make the kids feel “special” and an excuse for the parents to take photos. I feel it’s like giving every kid a trophy just for showing up. Congrats kids, you can read and do simple math. No you’re some other teacher’s problem.

Cameron May 29, 2014 at 12:08 PM

My personal opinion 5th grade graduation is irrelevant but 8th grade is graduating middle school and getting ready for Highschool so I think it is important

Concordejet May 29, 2014 at 12:13 PM

I though it was 6th and 8th never heard of a 5th grade graduation.

sure why not? 6th, 8th and 12th graduation are great unless parents complain it too much work and too much money for all those graduation.

Bishop Estates May 29, 2014 at 12:14 PM

As happy as I was to see kids make the leap from middle to Highschool it does seem that the ceremony is overkill. Graduation from High School says’ ” you did it”!! not you did it again…..

Charles-the-cat May 29, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I know a family where Grandpa was able to go to the middle school graduation ceremony but everyone knew that he wasn’t going to survive the four years till high school finished. So the middle school graduation was a proxy for the future high school and college graduations that grandpa wouldn’t see.

Googlar May 29, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I don’t see the point. When I graduated high school most of the kids paid money for gowns and hats and stood in 95 degree heat for a few hours to receive a diploma. I drove by the school a few days later and picked it up at the office. Took about five minutes. Nobody has ever asked to look at my diploma since then.

Anon May 29, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Concordejet: It’s 5th grade, because nowadays they are “graduating” elementary and moving on to middle school for 6-8th grades.

I remember my kids having some sort of classroom celebration along with end of year crap, but not an actual ceremony. I don’t think it’s necessary for anything but high school..

Linda May 29, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Nope, nada, no! Forget the kindergarten graduation too! Graduate from high school and college instead.

Reality Slap May 29, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Have a private celebration for all the little accomplishments if parents feel it warrants it, stop making doing what is supposed to happen a celebration bordering on being a miracle. High School Graduation deserves a ceremony, the rest only need an end of the year picnic.

Dorothy May 29, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Why not just “graduate” them to each grade? My grandchild “graduated” from preschool to kindergarten. Do they “graduate” from kindergarten to 1st grade yet? It’s suppose to be special and show transition in life. Don’t make it common. Graduation from high school and, if they can, from college.

Anon May 29, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Just for high school. If you have more than one kid, that’t a lot of graduations, and related expenses.

Anonymous May 29, 2014 at 12:38 PM

What about preschool and Kindergarten? My children had graduation from both. I remember explaining to them that they WOULDN’T BE graduating from each grade. It looks like that’s where society is going. It makes High school graduation so meaningless.

just a concordian May 29, 2014 at 12:41 PM

I agree with 8th grade and high school. Those are milestones. 5th grade is a waste of time.

Honestly.... May 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

No………..but then again this is California where some schools have Kindergarten gradutation……………

Rebel May 29, 2014 at 12:53 PM

I dont remember my 5th grade graduation from Walnut Acres, but my 8th grade graduation from Foothill was a crock. Long, boring, and pointless…. 2.5 hrs of sun baking cruelty.

Triple Canopy May 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM

To me it’s fine to have a ceremony but it’s is rather lame to call it a “graduation”.

Cici May 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM

No, I don’t think we need school-sponsored graduation ceremonies for 5th and 8th graders. Don’t the middle schools in this area hold awards ceremonies at the end of the year where they give out awards for good grades, perfect attendance, school service, and the like? I think that’s appropriate, but a graduation ceremony is too much and kind of silly. Will we charge the kids for caps and gowns? Sell them invitations, announcements, graduation photos, and school rings? The graduation industry is enough of a rip-off as it is. Let’s not bring that down to the elementary and middle school levels. Let families mark those milestones privately with a family BBQ or whatever.

down and out May 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM

#4 Concordejet:

“I though it was 6th and 8th never heard of a 5th grade graduation.”

No, where I’m from we graduated 5th grade and then moved to middle school, which is 6th-8th grade. There is no such thing as 8th grade graduation.

Graduating 5th grade is no big deal–it’s just a small ceremony and they give you a dictionary. That is all. It’s not like graduating from high school, which is a big deal.

Nuttsie the Nutter May 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Good point Googlar. I have never showed my high school diploma to anyone in 50 years. But I think that the graduation ceremony is more for the parents and relatives than for the graduate. Kind of a “hey, see what my child did” moment.

Silva May 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

The son I raised in Oakland Unified had a 5th and 8th grade graduation ceremony. The kids were excited and proud. There was an appointed speaker from each class. It was good practice, and a great experience for everyone. Why not?

57 Chevy May 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM

I’m kind of partial to high school, college and grad school graduations.

But I’m always happy for the kids, as well as all their accomplishments.

funny man May 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM

everyone gets pushed thru school anyway for the state attendance money irregardless of grades so just give em all participation ribbon
Gradeation shud be resevered for college

Pleasant Hill Resident I May 29, 2014 at 1:14 PM

I personally don’t think it’s necessary.

My age group never had those and I don’t think we missed out. Our parents didn’t have to take off work to be there or pay for yet another photo session, etc. I don’t know much about it and I’m sure the kids enjoy it, but it seems wasteful.

“Good job, kiddo – you managed to complete a portion of your education that most everyone else is able to and should achieve! **pat on the back** “

Heather May 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM

I think a relatively simple 8th grade graduation is appropriate, especially at a school like Sequoia, where it is the last time that the groups of students who have attended Monte Gardens and Sequoia Elem since Kindergarten. will be in school together – afterwards they separate into all of the local public and private high schools.

Why Not? May 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Call it graduating since they are leaving the school to another level of grades.

12th grade isn’t done either. Pretty much undergraduate isn’t enough either.

Let them eat cake…low fat cake!

momo May 29, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Highschool and college graduation is all you need.

Celebrating Nothing May 29, 2014 at 1:28 PM

When I was a kid there were only two graduations to celebrate–High School and College.

These days, every little thing is celebrated, It’s almost like they are looking for pay back just for doing their laundry or cleaning up their bedroom.

Sherry Whitmarsh May 29, 2014 at 1:43 PM

The elementary and middle school did not call it graduation but promotion ceremony. Both were on the last day of school and lasted about 1 1/2 hours. Both were nice ceremonies. I say let them keep them.

CereBellum May 29, 2014 at 1:59 PM

8th grade yes, however 5th grade no!

Dutch May 29, 2014 at 2:23 PM

I remember a class picture for graduating from elementary school but I don’t remember any ceremony. I do remember my high school and college graduation ceremonies. I vote, high school and college graduation ceremonies are all that are needed. Somethings are milestones in life and others are just stepping stones, elementary and middle school are stepping stones for high school and then college (if one gets that far).

Connie Dobbs May 29, 2014 at 2:48 PM

You should only have a graduation from college.

Jen May 29, 2014 at 2:51 PM

They’re not Graduations, they are Promotions. They are being promoted from Elementary School to Middle School, and then being promoted from Middle School to High School. It’s a big transition for a kid; they’re growing up, taking the next step, I think it’s okay to acknowledge the completion of one phase in their lives and look forward to the next phase in their lives. Some get awards for perfect attendance, some get awards for most improved in Math. When a student excels, we should reward them. Not everyone gets an award, it’s something to strive for! And it’s usually only an hour, just let them have it. 🙂

Incognito May 29, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Back in the day when I was in school, there was a high school graduation ceremony and that’s it. Makes perfect sense, it’s the end of what is considered traditional schooling, entering adulthood with new endeavors. I think that is plenty.

Rather than focusing on having a big celebration of each phase of schooling, focus more on making sure students get good grades and do not drop out of school.

Cynthia May 29, 2014 at 3:04 PM

High school and college, acomplishments. Preschool, kindergarten, 5th and 8th……….we should all be able to make it through. No biggy

paranoid pablito May 29, 2014 at 3:09 PM

A crematory is no place for a child of any age. Shouldn’t even be a debate!

Anon May 29, 2014 at 3:13 PM

I feel it gives the kids something to strive for in the future and set their goals. A form of postive reinforcement at specific milestones.

WC May 29, 2014 at 3:14 PM

I’m for High School, that’s the end of public school and should be celebrated. But if a family wants to have a 5th or 8th grade graduation party with a ‘kegger’ and some food. I’m there!!!

Arizona May 29, 2014 at 3:26 PM

I live in Arizona now and my daughter just finished elementary school yesterday (out here it is 6th grade). Instead of a graduation the entire school lined up and as the 6th graders exited the school for the last time everyone clapped and gave high 5’s. It was the perfect way to acknowledge the end of elementary school without the fanfare of a graduation ceremony.

8th grade? Big deal May 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM

30% of California Hispanic students do not graduate from High School. Actually the California graduation rate is almost just as pathetic in most cases. So I am told that the trend is to make a big deal about graduating from the 8th grade. Big family parties. Lots of attention. Doesn’t seem right to me.

Anonmom May 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM

I see no problem with the 5th and 8th grade promotion ceremonies, they are very low key. I just see them as a way to bring everyone together to acknowlege the next big transition

Jose May 29, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Why stop there, have a graduation for every year. Not! Skip the 5th and 8th grade graduation and just have graduation for those that complete high school.

MadMom May 29, 2014 at 7:24 PM

5th and 8th grade aren’t graduations. They are promotions. The ceremonies are fun for the kids and their families.
Regardless of what many here think, kids work hard at school. Why not have a party to celebrate. It’s fun. You remember fun don’t you?
If you don’t want to attend…then stay home please!

foonman May 29, 2014 at 7:43 PM

High school only, most had to go through 5th to 8th to get there. High school is jumping off point for many, and all should be recognized for
making it to this point.

@Jen May 29, 2014 at 8:55 PM

as a grandparent I agree totally. And it’s nobodies business but the parents and schools involved. It’s a PROMOTION, geeeez get it right…from school to another.

Anon, too May 29, 2014 at 9:51 PM

High school only. No to either 5th or 8th grade. It’s nice to have some small recognition of the fact that they’re moving on, but keeping it small seems to be a challenge for all of the control-freak moms.

mika May 29, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Schools can’t charge for caps and gowns anymore. Thank you, taxpayers! That will save parents $30-50.

caskydiver May 29, 2014 at 10:51 PM

5th and 8th grade “graduations” are ridiculous. While these may be milestones along the longer path of completing your basic education and graduating high school, I think that the only real graduation is once you achieve the goal and graduate high school.

Dale May 30, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I’ll celebrate if my daughter doesnt get pregnante while she’s a teenager. that alone is success these days.

Half full May 30, 2014 at 4:11 PM

I attended a “preschool graduation” celebration at baldwin park a few weeks ago. A four year old girl had a one-shoulder floor length ball gown on. Hand made rosettes all over. One shoulder exposed and a very poofy dress. Looked like a wedding dress. It was even white. Handmade by grandma. So silly. Will there be a limo ride to kindergarten

Marissa May 30, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Our children need to be celebrated; and elementary and middle school graduation are not too much to ask.

Ms. Jean May 31, 2014 at 7:21 AM

Elementary and Middle have promotion ceremonies. The kids dress nicely, get their various certificates, and have some cookies. It’s very low-key, but extended family can attend. Graduation is for high school and beyond.

Jaz May 31, 2014 at 9:37 AM

I had a graduation for kindergarten, 5th grade, and 8th grade. I missed my high school(but I still picked up my diploma a week later). I understand its something the make the kids feel good about. Saying hey you made it through this many years of school, now do some more! But I really don’t think there should be a kindergarten, 5th grade, and/or 8th grade graduation. Maybe a party or something. Or what reality slap said “a end of the year picnic.” I think only high school and college graduation should matter. Other ones are a waste of time. I could have done without those graduations, they were awkward and embarrassing.

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