May 20, 2014 8:00 am
Like it, love it or hate it?
Thanks to Jim for the picture!
I like it, but there’s no way to enforce it. Hopefully, it will help.
A bit crass but i like it. We are in CA. WHo smokes here in this day and age? Not many. Nothing more annoying than having to smell a butt unless you are into that sorta thing….
Love it but will anyone comply
At Bart they often hang around no smoking sign smoking…..
The fact that they feel the need to place a tasteless sign in front of their shop speaks to the type of business they are. I think the sign would have been fine if they could have resisted the urge to show their IQ.
A parking lot full of cars and SUV’s pumping out exhaust, especially if you are in one, is not the place to give someone a hard time about smoking a cigarette imo.. I know this is by the door, which I agree with, rude. But still, sometimes you have to wonder. I was in a parking lot and a lady in an SUV, alone btw, was giving me the dirty look and fake cough for smoking, then rolls up her window waving her hand in her face then starts up her monster SUVG and the Exhaust pipe was right on me. I aint kidding.. So most who went to this mall or store pumped out exhaust all the way there, by bus or car. Then whine about this.
Plus that sing is made from plastic, and I have to smell refinery crap everyday.. So I guess my wife is right, everyone is a hypocrite.
Haha! Pretty funny. But I hate anything that has to do with smoking. But I can understand where people will be offended by it. I’m sure it will be gone soon.
i dont like it.
they made the cigarettes too “cartoony”.
and they attempted to make it funny.
cartoony, and funny’ish doesnt make me feel this’ll
impact children in the right way.
simple would be more effective IMHO.
cant agree with you more.
sincerely, which is worse? say taking a daily 30min walk
or bikeride down say Treat during rush hour and inhaling the
exhaust emissions, or smoking 8 cigarettes a day?
not defending smoking in public, just wondering…
Glad I quit, too expensive. Sick of whiners, it’s not like its constant. No one whines over in third world Europe, live and let live.
They outlawed smoking downtown Walnut Creek. So now all they have to do is ban the thousands of cars from entering downtown. Just more PC psychobabble..
Time and time again we hear the argument from smokers “You should worry more about all the trucks and SUVs than my cigarette”. None of them seem to understand that there is at least some benefit derived from the trucks and SUVs, from transportation to delivery of goods and services, etc. Therefore, the negative aspects of the vehicle exhaust are at least partially ameliorated by the benefits derived therefrom.
Tell me, smoker – what benefit do I or the rest of society derive from your nasty habit while we are subject to inhale the same crap you need to feed your pathetic addiction?
By the way – love it!
Love it! People who smoke do smell like butt. I’m sure glad I gave it up decades ago. 🙂
Smoking is disgusting. How does anyone pick up or maintain that habit in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are shortening their life?!! Lol, that’s probably why every adult smoker I see appears to have given up on life!
My argument at city council when they passed a smoking ban a few years ago. Not to mention in the shadow of a refinery that makes our way of life possible I guess, non smokers as well. But the people who drive down to get their coffee ina car that emits exhaust the whole way then complain about a smoker, when they just did 10 times worse. Now multiply that by thousands of cars and trucks up and down Main everyday, and we give a person a fine for one cigarette?? What? I also asked, which was ignored, would you rather be in a garage with a smoker for an hour or a car? But hey, they got awards and I also am not defending smoking. Horrible habit. But get real. Unless you live in the jungle and eat bugs, you pollute the air. And with way more nasty stuff than tobacco.. Like Coal etc… Get off your high horses and walk the walk if you thumb your nose at a smoker. Ditch your car, walk. And don’t buy anything delivered with diesel fuel etc.. Then I might have respect for what you think about another who has a little cigarette you get a little whiff of. Give me a break.
I agree with the premise of the message but the delivery is tasteless and crude. Sinking to the lowest common denominator is the path of least resistance and makes assumptions about the intended audience that may not be accurate.
Am surprised anyone could see it in that forest of STOP signs
@ Rollo, and to make that comment they just had to burn how much coal to make the electricity for you? Do we really need to hear your thoughts? no. So why do you read Claycord and comment when it will create that much more pollution for others to breath? Then whine about a little cig? I’m just saying, we all do things, BBQing, dirt bike riding, Sunday drives, driving for coffee??? That might make others air that much worse, but oh well. Like I said, walk the walk…
Smokers are going to complain about vehicles. I hope they realize that A Big nasty polluting truck drove those things to a store near them so they could “Light” one up. I grew up in a house of smokers and anytime I walk by someone’s smoke my lungs burn and I have trouble breathing. If you want to destroy “your” lungs then by all means do so, Please don’t share with me!!
@Biggus Thinkus — In answer to your question, which is worse: I have asthma and I can hike/bike all day near cars/trucks and my lungs are okay; but one whiff of someone’s cigarette, and my lungs literally hurt.
Nice high horse you have. And I assume your pathetic addictions are just fine. Oh, you don’t have any addictions? You are the perfect person?
I am not a smoker, but I get a kick out of all the anti-smokers that are soooo put out by someone smoking. I would be willing to bet that not one single person has died or contracted a single disease from breathing second hand smoke while walking through a park or past a person standing outside.
“When I sit in my backyard I can smell my neighbor’s smoke”. Oh poor me! Get a life.
I like it, not everyone wants to be around second had smoke and you have to respect that.
I thought tripod signs were against City code….. tripping hazards and eyesores….. The pun on this sign is tasteless, to say the least.
Are you more likely to do something you don’t want to do if someone very seriously and soberly tells you not to do it, or if someone interjects some mild humor along with the request?
They are not making light of the subject – they WANT compliance, or they wouldn’t be asking. They are interjecting light humor to make the readers more likely to comply.
I applaud them!
As I suffer daily 24/7 from breathing trouble, always brought on with my first whiff of secondhand tobacco smoke, I must say.. I LOVE LOVE LOVE it.
And please spare me the lecture about it being all of the other crap in the air we breathe, yes it’s true, but I feel worse when I’m having to pass or avoid a smoker, diesel exhaust, and the all encompassing wood smoke so prevalent here in winter.
Really? This is unbelievable. I’m more concerned with the homeless/drug addict population that seem to be hanging around in Clayton Valley Shopping Center than smoking. Enough already with the anti-smoking nazi’s….. its a free country.
I’m allergic to cigarette smoke so I have no sympathy towards smokers, who are all too often rude, self entitled jerks. “It’s my right to kill myself” I’ve heard too many times. Hey, I have a right to breath air that doesn’t smell like cigarettes.
Here’s a thought, go see an addiction counselor.
to cite the relevant municipal code and a typical fine.
I don’t smoke and never have, but I truly believe smokers are unfairly persecuted in California.
I just want to go on record as a smoker I regret ever starting. It is a nasty horrible expensive habit that is very hard to quit and will kill you. And I am trying to quit with help form my doctor. It is very difficult. Never start. No way would I defend smoking, I lost A very close friend to lung cancer who smoked heavy. A horrible death and at my age he died, ten years ago. Could be me. When I smoke in public I am very wary of who is around. Try to never let kids see me smoke, or smoke where anyone will be bothered. Saying that, give us a break a little. 2nd hand smoke??? I have to breath 2nd hand everything everyday from the same people who trash me so they can golf or go boating…… But Equate it to obesity and would you talk to an over weight person like you do to smokers? I am the one hooked. But it is ok for me to be called stupid, and every other word, that would never be ok for an obese person. Which btw kills about the same number of people as smoking. But, before someone trashes a smoker, and all they got was a little whiff od the smell. Think about it a little. And think about what you do? Hell I had a neighbor lady who wore perfume that choked me. Elderly woman. I still gave her rides to the store, in a car with those chemicals.. Also other things. Let it go. People love to get on high horses and put others down to feel better about themselves, even when they do worse sometimes. And we all do things. Sorry for beating a dead horse, but our very way of life puts so much crud in the air we all have to breath, coal etc.. that no one that lives in our modern civilization can talk… I do though., I do wonder how much crude manufacturing that sign put in my air. And the diesel truck that transported it etc… That is what I am talking about. Hypocrisy.. OK, everyone use their electricity, ( Coal, cough ) have their coffee that put out more toxins in the air to grow, make and transport than 100000 cigarettes while you trash smokers… ok, I am done. Promise Mayor. lol
Saw a movie once where there was a lady out front of a building smoking. Another lady walks by and yells at the smoker “second hand smoke kills!”. The smoker replied “Not fast enough!”.
I am sure the smokers will rush to trash this sign. Sad that in this day and age a person still chooses to line the pockets of those huge tobacco companies while said companies give you cancer. If you want to smoke that is your right, but don’t expect the public to be sympathetic to your disregard for throwing your cigarette butts out the window while driving or throwing them on the sidewalk, in the street, in planters etc. I may not like this tacky sign either but obviously whoever put it up had a good reason to do so.
Why would anyone smoke in this day and age? Even if they do not care about their health, people usually care about their wallets…Like the sign.
I’m a smoker AND I love this sign! If you are a smoker, have some respect for the people around you. I do not smoke in front of businesses, I do not smoke outside while I’m walking down the street, I do not light up outside a resteraunt after I’ve had dinner. I smoke in my backyard where I won’t bother anyone else. People who don’t give a sh*t where their second hand smoke goes piss me off.
Oh – AND I drive a Suburban! HA
Put the sign in front of cvs for the woman who sits there ALL DAY and smokes at the door between Fresh & Easy/ CVS. ALL DAY EVERY DAY
@Just saying – with that argument, you must also be part of the same, “forward thinkers,” that protests in front of Chevron’s headquarters about pollution and oil, etc and yet drives their “polluting cars” to get to the protest. Your argument doesnt have a leg to stand on.
Like it or don’t like…smoke or don’t smoke…..the facts are in about smoking
and its not good.
People who still smoke cigarettes don’t follow health earnings they could die. What makes u think they are smart enough to read a sign and follow it (its also California law I think 20 feet from entrances)
I have severe allergies to the point where some days I’d rather not go outside. I have to double or triple dose on allergy meds and I’m miserable for a few months out of the year. I get severe asthma and require an inhaler. Who can I talk to about removing all the flowers and trees that aggravate my allergies.
I mean. How inconsiderate for my neighbor to mow his lawn or grow roses when they effect my health and well being during the spring/summer. It’s not fair. Your gardens are literally killing me.
Oh and I could care less about smokers. This stigma that’s been created is just another form of segregation. There’s always gotta be “that group” and since it’s now fopau to base it on color let’s base it on smoking.
Now back to my original point. Please kill all the trees grass and flowers. I’m dying here and slowly drowning in a pile of used Kleenex
Still no answer. What benefit does your filthy habit bring to society around you?
Coal burning refineries light my home. My vehicles transport me to work and others deliver goods and services, including your cigarettes. I’m lucky, or disciplined enough, to have no addictions. Smoking is an addiction that victimizes not only the addict, but those around them if they “fix” in public.
@ Pinto, how do you figure? When I admit I am part of the problem. We All are? Where did you get that idea from? That is what I was pointing out. So let’s all trash each other I guess for polluting the others air?
Tasteless? Tacky? Crude? Irreverent? Humorous? True? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and YES! I love it.
I have to agree with #27 People take criticism best w/a dose of humor. Everyone hates a smoker and everyone hates the anti-smoking nazi so this is a good approach.
What I find ironic is that they tell you to go smoke 50+ feet from the door (at my work they have a designated smoking area in the parking garage away from the doors/elevators) but the stinkiest f’ing place is the elevator that they all ride back up in. I’d prefer to stand next to them while they are smoking than ride the elevator with or after them.
Like it ! Funny too !
Perhaps these folks don’t want the odor of stale tobacco in their store?
We should just go ahead and outlaw pine trees and grass as well. You know, to save all those people with allergies.
I have the right to allergen free air you know! Dammit!
And all those fat people as well. I demand to not have my day ruined by seeing another one of those fat chicks walking on the pedestrian lane while my car is waiting for the light to turn green.
And make it illegal for people to continue to regurgitate “facts about smoking” who have not done the research themselves and just parrot the popular line that “smoking kills”. Dammit!
Some people just can’t be bothered to check their “facts”. Hmmm, would there be a correlation between ignorant people and their level of intolerance?
Kind of like how people who have never been outside the borders of the US (or their state, or even their county) are racist/quite intolerant of other races…
My dogs object to the part of the sign about butt-sniffing.
Anyone remember when you walked into someones house, didn’t ask if you could smoke just asked, “Where is the ash tray”.
I have no issues walking out of range to have a cig in peace. However lets talk about smells then. How about some of you take it easy on your perfume….you know what im talking about, caked on perfume that’s so thick that an atmosphere of heat radiates off like vapor being evaporated. Next is hygiene, Some of you talk about cigs smelling while your breath smells like death cause you never floss = yuck.
I meant like water being evaporated lol
As a society we seem to always need a group of people to pick on. Look back through history. I guess it is our way of making ourselves feel more important. When we get tired of berating smokers it will be someone else.
How many people have died from alcohol related deaths compared to second hand smoke? Maybe drinkers can be our next target.
How about you pick a legal activity from your life that becomes the target. People suddenly start acting like assholes. It becomes politically correct to be mean and hateful towards you. .
I am a smoker. I always try to be very careful about where I smoke. I did this before all the laws came about. We’re not all jerks but it’s ok to label us as so because we are the group d’jour. You don’t have to like me or my habit but you can at least afford me the same basic human respect that I afford you.. Name calling? Are we back in grade school?
I voted for all the tobacco taxes. I have no problem with not smoking in most public spaces. My problem is with that group of people that think they have a right to dictate my life and lifestyle.
It is offensive to me Akibarbar.
All “no smoking” signs of every kind must now be banned.
The fact that we pollute doesn’t make it ok to smoke, and vice versa, Just Sayin’ is right.
What’s the greater harm, polluting the planet or causing cancer in an unsuspecting person via second hand smoke? There is none, both have bad outcomes.
Spending as much time around young persons learning to read as I do, I think the sign is inappropriate for general audiences even though it’s well intentioned.
@ 23, ” I would be willing to bet that not one single person has died or contracted a single disease from breathing second hand smoke while walking through a park or past a person standing outside.”
Many people like yourself assume that there is no danger with second hand smoke. In fact that is a myth. Children and partners of adults who smoke have a very real risk of contracting certain cancers from being exposed to second hand smoke. I know that you are going to scoff and call it all BS, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Check this link out if you dare……http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/tobaccocancer/secondhand-smoke
Can you read? Can you read with comprehension? Never, repeat never was it said that there is no danger from second hand smoke. The risks of second hand smoke are very real and well documented.
What was, in fact, said was that no-one gets sick or dies from a very brief encounter with second hand smoke in an outdoor setting. Smelling smoke while sitting in your yard presents no danger to you or anyone else. Does it perhaps smell bad? Yes. But so do my farts and her perfume, neither of which cause disease..
No one is saying that you can’t smoke. You sound so indignant. Group d’jour?? I don’t think so. We’ve known for decades that cigarettes are dangerous and second hand smoke is awful. If it weren’t for all the rude, arrogant, selfish smokers out there, people would not be up in arms about this topic. Second hand smoke IS a problem in our society.
“In the United States, the costs of extra medical care, illness, and death caused by SHS are over $10 billion per year.” From the American Cancer Society’s website……
Went to a casino on Mother’s Day, and suddenly realized how I don’t miss the smell of cigarettes. It was awful. Couldn’t breath and am still suffering from that day.
Just look at life insurance or health insurance cost for those who smoke
No maybe you don’t die….you can lose your teeth prematurely , have smokers skin or cough, heart disease …
Smoking not the only poor habit one can choose…
It does encroach upon others
Read when I was a teenager kissing someone who smokes like licking an ash tray….that was a deterant for me then…
Put all the comments about how bad smoking is and “why would anyone do it” away, people. If there wasn’t some cognitive benefit from nicotine nobody would smoke, period. Of course there are major health issues with it; the point being, people wouldn’t keep doing it if there wasn’t something to be gained.
That said, I quit cigarettes 5 years ago, only smoke an occasional cigar or pipe these days, and never near others who might object. Even when I was a cig smoker (2+ packs/day for 30 years) I couldn’t stand breathing someone else’s smoke, or my own when it was secondhand.
It’s not only commonsense to not to smoke near entrances, but it’s the law: no smoking within some distance, usually 25 feet. Period. A lawyer would probably say that a sign of some kind is needed to avoid possible defenses against tickets (“I didn’t know!”). This sign is direct, catchy and to the point, and will likely succeed more than something more innocuous; look how much attention it’s getting!
So how many of these smokers whining about cars polluting the air own cars? Probably most of them. So you are causing twice the pollution, right?
I hate to break it to you but people that smoke REEK. Your breath, your hair, clothing. I see people go out to smoke and then spray themselves with a body spray after like that helps and I’m here to tell you it does not. You can’t wash that smell off your hands either. Doctors know you are lying when you deny the habit your appointments.
On top of secondhand smoke, there is something called third hand smoke. Even if you are a smoker and you don’t smoke in your home the crap gets all over your clothing and then you pick up your baby and rest them right in it on your shoulder. It gets in your sofa from your clothing. Ever try fitting a sofa in a washing machine?
Bottom line is it is a gross expensive habit. You already know this but you are addicted and defensive about it.
Want to have healthy lungs, whiter teeth and nails and not REEK not to mention have extra money to spend on a new Hybrid car? Then kick the habit! See your kid graduate and get married w/o an oxygen tank strapped to your side. Or worse.
you’re all idiotts. a sign has nothing to do with iq. the sign is by the door because California law states not smoking within 25 ft of any entrance. people break that rule, thus the sign.
Really, I think they should just paint a semi-circle around the door that is 30′ out, and say smoking allowed beyond the line. I am sometimes tempted to draw one outside the doors to my office building.
It takes an idiott to know an idiott.
Always amazes me how insane people get about cigarettes.
Idiot has one t.
I’m a non-smoker, but this sign is tacky. It says more about the business than the message it’s trying to send.
I am sorry to have offended you. Yes, I normally read with comprehension, but this is a heated topic and I was too quick to answer. If you want to bash me further then go ahead. Make your day………
Called freedom of choice and legal as is booze and many things. Whether like or not nobody has room to speak. Nobody should have to conform to another persons view on life.
Want to fix it then make sales of cigarettes illegal but good luck with that as people would counter with Alcohol (hardly healthy and kills not to mention drunk drivers, drunken stupidity acts that kill others. People want their booze prohibition didn’t work so enough).
Oh wait you don’t smoke nor drink but load up on strong perfume which affects asthma and darn sure don’t give a crap about others in confined spaces. You’re entitled right? You do it because you like it and don’t care what others think. You are clueless in that it is hurting others who likely don’t speak out but tolerate you and can’t wait for you to leave.
Oh so you don’t smoke, drink or wear strong perfume. Bet you complain about NO BURN days in the winter and how your going to anyhow because it’s stupid law? Other states have no burn days too? Stupid? Not if you have respiratory issues. Grinning because now you think it’s their fault huh? Love educated idiots..
You would be clueless and heartless thinking good you smoked that’s why we have no burn days. Well sad but true more than half who suffer from some respiratory condition have nothing to do with smoking. People are born with conditions as kids, adults or senior citizens which this stuff happens in later years. So who are you to not care here but care about smoking?
What this all comes down and my point is this!
Everyone’s view on life is only right through their our own eyes and views as they see and process it. Wake up… You don’t have to like it but you bet your ASS you have to tolerate as I have to endure same or even a sample of the many things I mentioned and trust me I could make a book of the things harmful and I didn’t even mention dining next to traffic, you think are ok but risk to yourself and others.
I’m not condoning smoking but care more about sharing this world and respecting freedoms not imposing your own view and will. If a smoker is being a jerk and smoking in inappropriate area by all means have at it. If not, keep to yourself like majority of us do tolerating others. Freedom and Life are about tolerating others and we will never all agree. We all do things that offend and affect others but we don’t see it from our own eyes. Most of us tolerate and keep to selves so maybe somehow manners let you think it’s ok what you do.. Respect others whether you like it or not. If it sold and it’s legal in an area, get over it.
For those with the simple minds feel need to debate, don’t waste your time or draw attention to your selfishness and ignorance. I said my piece I won’t bow down to ignorance or reply to an educated idiot who are book smart but dumb in life.
I just hope those of you with one sided views learn to co-exist because you can’t nor will change this world to conform to your view of life. You’ll just die younger stressing over it.. LMAO!
Its a safety hazard. Just trip over it and fall on your butt. Obnoxious and tastless. Someone has a bone to pick with smokers.
Let’s put up gory pictures on plastic “floor is wet signs” of weeping wounds in hospitals that say…. Please let your baby crawl around on our floors, just wash your hands.
(Just throwing out tacky ideas)
Not unless it was bothering somebody. Then I would expect them to speak up. As far as I know I haven’t been deputized in any way.
since no one answered…
The benefit i get from smoking is the same benefit i get from eating, sleeping, watching tv, driving my 8 cylinder suv to get a cofee at the drive thru, cooking with coal and many other habits, filthy or otherwise.
It satisfies me.
The benefit society gets from a satisfied me is a more productive me, a law abiding member of the society, a helper of those in need and critical towards law breakers.
So thats the benefit you get, as a member of this society.
I met a FBI agent once, who told me: I may disagree with many of your beliefs, but i will die to protect your right to have those beliefs.
Next time you are having your filthy opinion about someone or something, remember that your filthy opinion does not make you a better person. It just makes you a person.
@ Just me – emotionally healthy attitude. I like your comments.
@justaconcordian- I like that perspective. Thank God I’m American!
Yes that is telling it like it is!! My neighbors used to smoke but since they had a baby they switched to vapor electric smoking. Much better. I never smell smoke and there are no more butts!!! He used to flick them on the roof of our carport!! Yipes!!!
Amen. some people are challenged in estimating distance.
They evidently haven’t met Eddie, my German Shepherd.
He wants to smell everybody’s ……
Love it. Anytime smoking is banned is good. They may claim smokers rights, but I have the right not to have to breathe their smoke .
thank you for the input (sincerely)
i walked down crow canyon to work for years and always ended up
feeling like my lungs were chem dipped afterwards.
happy you’re in good health!
@just a concordain:
Clearly you see no flaws in your logic so I won’t bother pointing any out.
So you need a chemical stimulant that potentially causes harm to those around you in order to feel satisfied enough to be a half-decent member of society? How sad for you.
Ashes to ashes!
Right… You don’t want to smell it bla bla bla, cancer bla bla bla, chemicals bla bla bla.
Plenty of unpleasant smells out there. U ever take a dump? Fart? Pretty unpleasant. U ever smell someone’s cooking you don’t like?
It’s all chemicals buddy. And they are all damaging, depending on the quantity.
You wanted an answer. I gave you one. You now want to criticize my answer because you don’t find it to your liking. Well, who cares! You don’t have to like it. You just have to respect my right to use my body in whatever way I see fit to use it. Just like I could give a rat’s ass about your opinion, but I respect it, because it’s yours. And if you don’t like this answer either, you have the option to go bleep yourself. Hope that satisfies you.
Why yes….Smoking does benefit society. Smokers with heart disease, lung & other cancers, CODP, emphysema and other smoking related health issues keep health care workers employed, feed the coffers of insurance companies alive because smokers can be charged higher premium and health facilities running because of the health issues it causes………It supports a very large group of insuance & tobacco lobbyist. And lets not forget the adversting industry (all of those anti-smoking ads) and of course the funeral industry……..
Personally I think people who smoke are really “stuck on stupid”, but then again maybe smoking is a way to thin the herd.
I suppose by the logic of some here I should feel free to fire my .45 up in the air when I have the desire to do so. It would help me be sure that my gun is in good working order in case I have to use it to defend myself or someone else, and besides that, I find it satisfying. And the odds of the round landing on and actually injuring or killing someone are pretty thin.
I could calculate the exact spot where the bullet will fall, and since you’re so good at respecting others’ opinions, I would also strongly advise that you keep clear of that area.
Love IT!!! Smoking is a choice. An unhealthy choice that kills the person smoking and people around that person. Not to mention the litter and smoke pollution it causes. Smokers are mostly uneducated, lacking a college degree, which makes smoking a lower class issue that we all need to rally around and snuff out.
“which makes smoking a lower class issue that we all need to rally around and snuff out.”
That’s the spirit. Let’s face it the “lower class” is the root of all our problems. Maybe we should round them up and put them in camps where we can watch them. Idiot.
I know a few elderly smokers. Who I don’t know……..Obese elderly.
You have major issues my friend. One word for you: THERAPY.
As long as I disclose how many grains the bullet weighs, any mook that passed high school physics can too. Since you’re so respectful of the air that those around you have to breathe, I’ll give you then weight and you can try to catch the bullet with your teeth.
@Atticus: Since my dentist is a smoker, I don’t subscribe to the beliefs held by #90. However, assuming they are both financially self-sustaining so that the results of their poor choices don’t affect the economy in general, which person has a more negative affect on you – the smoker in the seat next to you or the fat slob eating a Big Mac?
That very well may be true, but at least I’m not a pathetic addict who willfully fouls the air that others around me are breathing.
I want this sign to put on mydownstairs neighbors porch…..she smokes ALL DAY LONG…and my home is full of second hand smoke….makes me and my family sick…..and the Homeowners Association won’t do a thing….
I WANT THIS SIGN!!!!!!!!
Your logic is flawed. 🙂 Last I checked smoking is legal. Shooting a loaded weapon into the air in city limits is illegal and quickly get you locked up while the person you’re debating would smoke his cig watch you be hauled away.
Sorry couldn’t resist but legal action vs. illegal? Good thing this is all in fun (for some). If this were real debate, you’d have lost using that example. 😉
You are correct. That’s the best example I could come up with for a selfish action that endangers those around me. I could have used spitting up in the air as an example, but I would venture to say that most spit, perfume, farts and other body odors that smokers constantly refer to contain little if any carcinogens.
See that? These smokers can smoke all day in their yards and homes with no problem, yet I get arrested if I discharge my weapon. And they still whine about being persecuted.
People love to trash smokers, even people in huge SUV’s in parking lots who just went to get a cup of coffee. Now I call that hypocrisy. That cup of coffee did not benefit society anymore or less than a cigarette.
Now I’m really confused. Do you have a problem with the cup of coffee, or the SUV?
If it’s the cup of coffee, what toxins or carcinogens are in that cup of coffee that are being forced on you because you’re in the same area? I agree that the cup of coffee has no benefit to society in general, but I fail to see how that person’s cup of coffee has any negative affect on you.
If your problem is with the SUV, I think I see where you’re going with that. So let’s do this: if the owner of that SUV ONLY uses it to drive one block to Starbucks, and never uses it to go to work, or take kids to school, or travel to the various beautiful, smoke-free places in this country, then that person is an offender of the highest order and a hypocrite.
Happy now, skippy? Go fix your nicotine habit.
stop feeding the trolls.
your point is valid: smoking is of little/no benefit. it offers temporary personal satisfaction at significant long-term risk, but is otherwise of no nutritive value… and this is fairly well documented in the medical journals. laws in CA prevent smoking in a good number of areas, so smoking is, indeed “illegal” in may cases.
in this case, the sign is indeed more crass than necessary and will offend folks like just saying/a concordian to the point that they’ll likely deliberately break the window/door ordinance just to be a d!ck… because, you know, this is “amurika” and you can pry these cigs from their cold, dead hands… which, at the rate of increase of smoking-related illness likely won’t be too long.
back on topic: the sign would have very likely been more effective had it simply stated the ordinance without the attempt at comedy.
It’s our right to smoke tobacco… assuming we are over 18… might as well make every drug. Imagine if a city or town tried to get rid of caffeine! That’ll be the day! I forsee many a murder when/if that day come!
Might as well make every drug illegal***
I LOVE IT !!!!!!
It boils down to what you are willing to pay for. I am willing to pay for my addiction. So are others with theirs, and everyone has an addiction. Video games for example. What social benefit do they have? But we play them. Are they damaging? Yes! In more ways cigarette smoke is.
And everyone’s favorite… Alcohol. There are way more families split up because of alcohol hen there are because of cigarettes. Not to mention that little known fact of alcohol related deaths. Talk about a social benefit!
But our resident scrutinizer Rollo doesn’t care about that. It seems he just wants to smell pretty flowers all the time. To that I say good luck. I leave you in peace to perform your daliy addictions, you leave me in peace to perform mine.
It’s everyone’s right to smoke as adults, but not to subject others to the second-hand smoke. Especially true if you are in close encounters with a large group of people. There are smoking areas everywhere, except in downtown San Francisco (ordinance passed). Enjoy decimating your lungs while giving others their respect.
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