Baby Left Alone in Vehicle on Willow Pass

May 13, 2014 9:45 am · 59 comments

DO NOT LEAVE YOUR CHILDREN OR PETS IN YOUR HOT VEHICLE!

We just got this message from a Claycordian:

Hello. I went to 7-Eleven this morning on Willow Pass Rd. in Concord to grab a coffee and when I got back in my car to leave I realized in the car next to mine there was a baby strapped in a rear facing car seat with all the windows up.

The man came out shortly after I did. I believe it was the grandfather but I am not certain. He was carrying a 18 pack of beer. I told him that he should not leave his baby in the car. He responded with she’s fine. So I told him it’s not ok and the next time I would call the police. I just can’t believe people still do this. It was 73 out already at 9 am.

Poor baby girl. And shame on you Grandpa or Daddy for leaving your baby in the car, especially to buy booze.

{ 59 comments }

1 Rob May 13, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Wow – leaving a baby in a car to buy beer at 9am – I feel sorry for that kid’s future.

2 Sscc May 13, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Does anyone know what the law is for civilians breaking windows to retrieve a baby or animal left in a car on a hot day?

3 What security May 13, 2014 at 10:13 AM

@ Sscc..
The law is don’t do it!!! why
You might get shot or killed for attempted kidnapping.
Call 911

4 Dorothy May 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Call them first in the future please. Then let the father/grandfather (or whoever) explain to them why he thinks it’s okay to leave the baby in the car, windows up, while off in the store for any reason.

5 PO'd May 13, 2014 at 10:20 AM

More evidence that a certain percentage of people are low IQ, selfish and lazy individuals-my guess is at least 33% of the population (at least in Concord) fit the criteria.
Always call police in these cases of leaving children and pets in a locked car
for the safety of the innocent. ALWAYS!!

6 Mac May 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM

What a d**k.
A list of things not to do while watching a kid.
Buying beer at 9 am is bad enough.
But doing so when watching a kid.
And leaving that kid in the car to do so.

This guy needs a slap across the face.
And told “Wake up, A**hole”

I`d be glad to do it

7 Mary May 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM

There is no law against leaving a baby in a car for a few minutes to grab some beer or milk or whatever. 73 degrees sounds pretty comfortable. Get a life and mind you own business.

8 Concordejet May 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM

crazy old man

9 Cynthia May 13, 2014 at 10:24 AM

You were to kind, a helpless baby is everyone s respondsibility. I would have jotted down the license plate and called CPD with info lickity split quick.

10 What's wrong? May 13, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Why can’t you leave a kid in a car while you are in 7-11? I mean, even if you’re in there 15 mins, nothing is gonna happen. Seems a little over-corrected to me.

11 Dub C May 13, 2014 at 10:28 AM

No kids going to suffer from 5 minutes in a car in 70 degree weather… I agree with Mary

12 Take a Pic of their Plate May 13, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Then call 911.

13 Nuttsie the Nutter May 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Actually, Mary, there is a law about leaving a child in a car, Unattended Child in Motor Vehicle Act “Kaitlyn’s Law” 
California Vehicle Code Sections 15620, 15630, 1563215620.

You and What’s wrong are obvious trolls.

And Mac, just a pet peeve of mine, but it is not a kid, it is a child. A kid implies a bother or afterthought. A child is a loved little human.

14 Don May 13, 2014 at 10:53 AM

@Mary & What’s wrong? REALLY!!! Are you saying you would leave a kid in a car alone even for a minute. I truly hope you have no kids. Get fixed!

@PO’d Clearly Mary and What’s wrong make up part of the 33%.

15 Teacher Wannabe May 13, 2014 at 10:59 AM

@Mary, its called child endangerment.

16 @7&11 May 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM

Baby will be take under care and you will be charged child endangerment and anything else they can think of , and rightly so.

17 russ May 13, 2014 at 11:23 AM

I wonder what kind of beer it was. Usually the crappy stuff comes in 18 pscks. Better to head to a BevMo, bring the baby in, and then take some time to make an informed decision on what to buy.

18 seabass725 May 13, 2014 at 11:23 AM

@mary
First off I hope your day gets better. Second I usually do mind my own business. But when I see a child/baby left un attended it is a concern. I’m not only worried about the health of the baby being left in a car alone because of the heat. But also because that child/baby can be kidnapped. And yes it is a big deal.. I’m tired of hearing horrible things on the news about babies or children dying in cars or being kidnapped because the parent only went in the store for “a minute”. And you have the nerve to tell me to mind my own business? Are you even a parent? Or do you just lack common sense?

19 Give Me a Break May 13, 2014 at 11:35 AM

It seems like a bit of an overreaction to call the cops don’t you think? You are going to have someone possibly lose their children because they ran into 7-11 with windows where they could see the child? Just because someone ran into 7-11, regardless of what they bought, it does not make them a bad parent. I’m sure they could see the child the entire time. This particular case seems to be permissible by my standards. I do prefer he wasn’t buying beer though. And obviously as long as the weather is tolerable. 73 degrees is what you turn your heater to at home in the winter after all…

20 ANON May 13, 2014 at 11:42 AM

” A kid implies a bother or afterthought.”

FOR MOST OF THESE LOW LIFES–THAT IS WHAT IT IS TO THEM

21 Mary May 13, 2014 at 12:02 PM

To all of you horrified busy bodies: below is the law. Read it and educate yourself. The man did not violate any law.

V C Section 15620 Prohibition Against Unattended Child in Vehicle
Prohibition Against Unattended Child in Vehicle
15620. (a) A parent, legal guardian, or other person responsible for a child who is 6 years of age or younger may not leave that child inside a motor vehicle without being subject to the supervision of a person who is 12 years of age or older, under either of the following circumstances:

(1) Where there are conditions that present a significant risk to the child’s health or safety.

(2) When the vehicle’s engine is running or the vehicle’s keys are in the ignition, or both.

22 MamaP May 13, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Kidnapping IS a significant risk to the child’s health or safety! I had twins and carried them lock, stock and barrel into EVERY store! EVERY SINGLE ONE. I would hate to lose a child to a kidnapper or to heat. You’re NUTS if you think leaving a child alone ANYWHERE for even a second is “alright”…I remember the child who was kidnapped in Concord right outside the front door of the bank while mom was in there for “just a second”…WRONG……UNBELIEVABLE that some people are allowed to breed.

23 Marianne May 13, 2014 at 12:20 PM

The cops should have been called immediately! With all of the windows rolled up–he should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent.

24 jmz May 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Forget that it wasnt that hot….Some one could break the window and kidnap the child.

25 B May 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Mary @23 put you all in check!

The child was never in danger, 70 degrees for a quick minute is nothing. You’re all over reacting. The kids who die in cars are left for HOURS unattended. No kid has ever died of heat exhaustion in the car when the parent was in 7-11

26 73 degrees May 13, 2014 at 12:32 PM

HEADLINE: DO NOT LEAVE YOUR CHILDREN OR PETS IN YOUR HOT VEHICLE!

People are horrified by small children FORGOTTEN ABOUT in HOT cars in HOT weather. No one wants that! That isn’t the case here by a long shot.. It was 73 degrees, and the adult could not forget about the child because they needed to drive home. Who said this car was hot? Was it parked in shade? The worrywarts are complaining about a 3 minute stop at a time when the temperature is cool/mild. The car probably was not hot and the child obviously wasn’t forgotten. This is nothing, and is happening all around you, all day long, in every city in the country. Get a life.

27 Blue Fan May 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM

I agree with Mary. Check the baby; it’s okay? MYOB. Car’s parked at a 7/11 are only there for five minutes. And what time somebody buys their beer doesn’t tell you anything about when they’re going to drink it.

28 PO'd May 13, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Mary, Mary, Mary- Based on today’s lack of responsibility for children in general and the amount of crime in general, is there ever a time you would do what this guy did? Yes, it wasn’t hot yet, so at this time of day, there wasn’t a danger of heat related issues-I get it.And lets not try to project the sensibility of buying a 12 pack at 9:00 AM- it might be for later consumption-I get that.
Let’s concentrate on the possibility that someone could take the kid while he is in the store-why take the risk? The risk IS real. There are a number of convicted sex offenders running around, lots of parolees are in the city of Concord, plenty of demented people in the mix. My question to you is: Why take the risk? Because you are too lazy to unbuckle the child? Get real.

29 loaded false premise May 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM

“It was 73 out already at 9am” <——— that's such dumb logic and is making me laugh! (as if the time of day has anything to do with it)

Here is what the woman who observed this should have submitted to Claycord:

"I saw a parked car at the 7-11 this morning that had a baby in back, in a car seat. A few seconds later the car owner came out. Nothing happened."

30 Judgemental much? May 13, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Putting aside the whole child endangerment thing for a second, some of you are making some ridiculous assumptions about this guy, based solely on the fact that he’s buying beer at 9AM. Even if he were going to drink it immediately, it’s none of your business. Remember, not everybody is on your schedule. He may have just gotten off work, for all we know.

31 Puddintain May 13, 2014 at 1:05 PM

The troll’s here as usual.

Of course you don’t ever leave a baby or small child unattended in a car.

32 Subterfuge May 13, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Is there sometching wrong with buying beer at 0900? No. Is there anything wrong with leaving a small child in a secured vehicle for a couple of minutes in the morning to get coffee, or beer etc… Probably not. If the child is actually not in any danger, just shut the hell up and go on about your day. Common sense should tell you when to act. If a child is in obvious danger, then act appropriately.

33 Chicken May 13, 2014 at 1:29 PM

It only takes 20 minutes in 70 degree weather for the inside of a car to reach 120 degrees parked in the sun!!!

34 me May 13, 2014 at 1:32 PM

I become furious when idiots leave their dogs in the car for a minute. And yes, I would never leave any child in my care alone for a moment. But to focus on him buying beer at 9 am. I like to shop at Safeway early in the morning because it’s quiet, and sometimes alcohol is on the shopping list. It doesn’t mean I’m in the parking lot drinking it. It might not even be for me. Don’t judge others…and don’t leave babies or dogs in the car. Call 911 if you are concerned, they will break the window without hesitation, it will save you a lawsuit.

35 ANON May 13, 2014 at 1:39 PM

“You are going to have someone possibly lose their children”

IF THEY DESERVE TO LOSE THEM …SO BE IT

36 qwerty May 13, 2014 at 1:46 PM

You get your morning coffee at 7-Eleven? I’d rather buy an 18-pack of beer from 7-Eleven at 9am than my morning coffee. BLECH!!

37 Really Miss Mary Is Stupid? May 13, 2014 at 1:51 PM

So I’m buying gas and paying with cash… I need to unstrap my kid bring him inside for a 2 min transaction? Stop spreading gossip, it ain’t illegal to leave your kid in a car for 5 min. Stop being a dudley do right and mind your own. The child was in no danger…. except for getting dusted by glass shards by this other idiot who thought that might be a good idea.

38 Mimi (original) May 13, 2014 at 1:51 PM

I would call 911 and based on their response I would either break the window or stand by keeping tabs on the situation. People do get very upset when you call them on situations like this, but, if it saves a child’s or animal’s life, it’s worth it.

39 oldman May 13, 2014 at 2:31 PM

@36
You are projecting again

40 Blink May 13, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Left a purse in car for 5 min while unloading ….
Window broken purse gone…
Most would blast me for being stupid…but a child you are ok with….

What other poor decisions does this child have to endure?

41 Zippy P. May 13, 2014 at 3:17 PM

Who cares. It’s not my kid.
Sucks for the kid, and the father/grandfather/whatever is obviously an idiot, but it’s not my business.

42 Jess May 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Not every child who is left in a car for a minute is in grave danger. The grandfather was picking up one item at a 7/11. He was just feet away from the car. He probably had it in view for all but a few seconds. It wasn’t all that hot yet. He was probably away from the car for 3 minutes tops. I don’t see this as child endangerment.

43 tired of taxes May 13, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Moral of the story, unstrap your kid and bring him in the store unless you want a nosy Claycordian bashing in your car windows and calling 911.

Kidding aside, I myself am paranoid about leaving my kid alone in the car. I don’t trust myself that what is a bearable temperature for me would be the same of my kid. And it is very easy to forget that you have a kid in the car once you’re in the store and distracted with shopping or other things.

44 SciGuy May 13, 2014 at 4:11 PM

I understand people’s concern over the potential for significant temperature increase in a short period of time in a parked car with the windows up. It is true, that even on a relatively cool day (say 72°) the interior of a car can heat up to around 116° in 60 minutes (2002 Stanford University study) and a majority of the heating happens in the first 15 to 30 minutes. This assumes that the car started at an ambient temperature equal to the outside and that it was in full and direct sunlight.

In this case, we don’t yet have evidence that the car was in direct sun. The 7-Eleven in question has a parking lot on the north side of the building and in the morning, one would assume this was at least partially shaded by the building itself. And at 9am, the oblique angle of the sun contributes less solar energy to heating.

Another possible variable that isn’t stated is whether the temperature of the car started at 73° or not. For example, it is possible the air conditioning was on when it was parked and the car was cooled to below the outside temperature which would have meant less time to heat up even back to 73°.

I’m all for warning people about the dangers of cars and how quickly they can heat up, but less also let’s not go overboard. While you car argue about the risk from kidnapping or perhaps forgetting about the child if the trip to 7-Eleven took longer than expected, in this case it appears the driver came back within a few minutes. We have the temperature reported by the person when the person returned, so it’s possible it could have even been a few degrees less and it was earlier in the day when the car was initially parked. I don’t really imagine that most people going to 7-Eleven are in there more than 10 minutes.

Be reasonable people and not so judgmental. The comment about what the person was buying was deliberately designed to taint our thinking and to see this person as an irresponsible person. But you don’t know and you are judging. Were you there? Do you know all the facts?

I would suggest anyone that wants to feel comfortable vilifying this individual for his actions, first find out the facts. Park your car in front of that 7-Eleven with a temperature sensor, on a day with a similar temperature and that time in the morning. Tell me what the temperature sensor says the temperature is after 10 minutes.

Save your concern for something that is truly warranted and stop trying to stir up controversy just to make yourself feel better.

45 East Bay Babe May 13, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Good God people get a life. My father would stop by to purchase some books and I did not want to go with him, so he left me alone in the car. Today some busybody would report him. I see no big deal, especially if it is in the morning or night since it is cooler. People need to learn to mind your own business and stop being paranoid and think OMG baby is going to die.

46 Mother of 3 May 13, 2014 at 4:59 PM

I cant believe so many of you are saying its ok to leave a baby in a car. To heck with the heat, do you all not understand that it only takes a few seconds for someone to grab your baby? What about that poor little girl in Oakland that they left in the car for just a minute…Whom has still never been found. People please dont leave your kids in your car. I dont care who thinks Im paranoid. Odds are at least one of you that are saying its ok to leave a baby unattended is probably a predator. Think about that.

47 PG&E May 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Mary@7 – wasn’t that your husband picking up your daily beer while you sat at home smoking cigarettes in your mumu?

48 Concord Guy May 13, 2014 at 5:31 PM

I’m with Mary on this one. If the guy is just running into 7-Eleven, he can see out to the car and is able to keep is eye on things. It doesn’t take long to make the purchase. And 73 is a perfectly comfortable temperature outside.

I will change my view if I were to learn that the car was sitting in direct sunlight. If it was in the shade, I don’t have an issue with it.

49 TeamUSA May 13, 2014 at 6:30 PM

The idiot is the guy that left the baby in the car to buy beer.

The bigger idiot is the person who told the guy “that’s not very nice. Don’t do it again or you’ll be in trouble if I catch you, mister!” instead of calling the cops.

50 over reaction May 13, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Ok so let me see here. My child is downstairs. I am going to run upstairs and take a shower. I can’t see my child.so I should go to jail???

He ran into a store with windows were he could see the car for 4 minutes. The doors I’m assuming we’re locked. The child was safe. Way more safe then me running upstairs to take a shower leaving my kid downstairs which I know all of you quick to judge people have done.mind your business

51 Michelle May 13, 2014 at 7:53 PM

@over reaction
This may be an over reaction if the child was visible at all times, I personally would not want to leave my child alone. For that, he does owe an apology to everyone in Claycord.

52 anon May 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

I think he was selfish not taking the child into the store to buy him/her something.

53 Mary May 13, 2014 at 11:20 PM

To the man who left the child in the car for few minutes:
I apologize for all of the stupid remarks by all the brain dead posters on this thread who can not think clearly.

54 Led May 14, 2014 at 12:16 AM

People, there’s a middle ground here. It’s not a good idea to leave a small kid in a locked car like that, even if it is for just a minute. What seems like just a couple of minutes can be too much, cars heat up quickly, etc. So it’s a good idea not to do it at all. But in this particular circumstance how likely is it that he’s going to accidentally hang out in 7-11 for 30 minutes while the car heats up? ‘Oh man, the Cheetos selection was so intriguing, I just lost track of time!’ As for all the paranoia about kidnapping, you people are definitely overreacting on that score. It doesn’t make us safer to feel like we need to distrust everyone around us so much that a kid can never be out of arms reach at any time. It really doesn’t. (It also doesn’t help your kids grow up normally, for that matter…) It just keeps you from making the kind of community that watches out for kids together.

55 next May 14, 2014 at 6:01 AM

“shame… especially to buy booze.”

this all i need to read from the original commenter to get a sense of character and busibodiness.

as for the risk to the child? more of a risk being inside that 7-11 than in a locked car for 3 minutes regardless of the weather conditions.

56 JRConcord May 14, 2014 at 6:09 AM

Funny! while growing up we would pile the family into my dads MG and cruise around. ALL 8 OF US…lol while he was smoking too. Of course the top was down so 2nd hand smoke wasn’t a problem. In this car. :-) You just cant have good times anymore without nosy people bothering you…

57 Mac May 14, 2014 at 8:30 AM

Nutter…Sorry, but i don`t feel the same way as you do.

My Father in law called me “Kid”
And i call my girls kid all the time.
And no Father loves their “kids” more then me.

So you go ahead and continue your thoughts on it.
And i will continue mine.

But nothing is put above my kids.
And never will

And i`m still a kid at heart

58 Suzanne May 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

@next
Three minutes can be detrimental in the right conditions-but the fact is, the child was left alone so the father probably thought he was safe no matter what he was buying. I refuse to leave my child alone even in the worst conditions.

59 @suzanne May 14, 2014 at 5:46 PM

hmm. facts are funny.

fact: these conditions were not detrimental.
• 9am @ 73 deg — the sun is at no angle to heat up the car at any significant rate. try it tomorrow morning.

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