The Water Cooler – Gasoline Prices

May 6, 2014 12:08 pm · 49 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon!

Today’s question:

In the near future, do you think we’ll ever see gas at $5 a gallon or more? Also, where do you go to get your gasoline?

Talk about it….

Anonymous May 6, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Yes and to top that off, DeSaulnier is introducing legislation to tax us by the mile. Never met a tax he didn’t like.

Fill her up May 6, 2014 at 12:24 PM

As far as gas prices, I go with the flow, and get gas wherever.

I refuse to stress about it. But I do like lower gas prices, and I have no idea if it will get back to $5 a gallon.

Anon777 May 6, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Yes. I try to find the cheapest at a “no name” place. I will not patronize the big box names such as BP, Chevron, Shell, Etc.

anon May 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Hey, Mark , do you want to get elected again for any office? Seriously, how about giving it a rest for a while? Nobody wants to be taxed for going green.

billy Beer May 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM

If energy prices were to go down, green energy gravy train for democrat’s one percent campaign contributors would collapse.

Concordejet May 6, 2014 at 12:42 PM


nytemuvr May 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM

@Anon777 #3
Where do you think the “no name places” get their gas….

Nope. May 6, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Who pays for gas still? I’ll stick with my Tesla.

JET May 6, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Honestly, I’m surprised we haven’t $5/gallon prices already (not that I’m complaining!)

Rob May 6, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Oil companies play the game of hiking prices and then lowering them a bit when people get “outraged” and then they raise them again and keep slowing inching them up higher and higher over time.

It will eventually get to $5 a gallon but oil companies are already unbelievably profitable so by raising them too quickly they just invite having to show up at a some silly Congressional Hearing to be yelled out for a while before getting back on their private jets to go home.

And like ” Fill her up”‘s comment, I am fortunate that I don’t have to worry about finding the cheapest gas and fill up whenever I need to wherever its convenient.

Good for Obama May 6, 2014 at 1:06 PM

He was wishing that he could figure out a way to increase fuel prices to the level they are in Europe.

He is getting close.

jtkatec May 6, 2014 at 1:08 PM

(Sigh) that would be a drag. My ’65 Tbird gets around 9 MPG….. (sigh)……

Noj May 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Too many taxes at the gas pump. It’s a complete rip off. I will never buy Shell gas. I was in Viet Nam and Shell sold gasoline to the VC.

State Underground Storage Tank Fee: The state underground storage tank fee is currently 1.4 cents per gallon.

State and Local Sales Tax: An average state sales tax rate of 2.25% percent is used in the calculation of the distribution margin although the actual sales tax rate does vary throughout California.

State Excise Tax: The California state excise tax is currently 35.3 cents per gallon.

Federal Excise Tax: The federal excise tax is currently 18.4 cents per gallon.

cf May 6, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Don’t know if we will see $5/gas but we do buy our gas at Costco and also get 4% cashback with our Costco Business AMEX. So glad that we drive a hybrid too.

Cuzzzzzzzzzzzzz May 6, 2014 at 1:19 PM

The killer is cross the boarder into Nevada, Arizona or Oregon and gas is anywhere from .50 – 1.00 cheaper……………………the cost of living in CA…………completely not worth it

claycordian May 6, 2014 at 1:40 PM

The present Federal administration has declared war on coal and cars. Watch out for Obama after this bogus “Climate Change” report that came out today. The state, as evidenced by DeSaulnier, is also declaring war on cars. They look at cars and gas as a cash cow, because EVERYBODY uses their automobile to get around. I once explored using public transportation to get to work. Twelve minutes by car, over 2 hours by bus and BART. I would have had to leave the house at 4:30 to get to work, rather than my usual 6:40.
Meanwhile the idiots in Sacramento are driving cars (and, apparently picking up women while under the influence) that WE are paying for.

Zzzzzzzz May 6, 2014 at 1:41 PM


I bet you’re a lot of fun at a party…..

KAD May 6, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Yes, it will get to 5.00. When we drove back into CA from AZ in March, gas prices went up $1.00 a gallon. What a shock that was.

Suzanne May 6, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Five dollars is inevitable, but I always get 3-4% back on my card anyway.

Well... May 6, 2014 at 2:01 PM

@ Cuzzzzz I was just in Oregon. It was not cheaper. Paid the same price in California. But don’t forget that Ca has more environmental regulations that other states have. Want cheaper gas? Remove the regs.

Teacher Wannabe May 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Get my gas at safeway. Chespest around, plus saving anywhere from .20-.80 more on rewards.

Global climate change is legit. Highest CO2 in 80,000 years. Who do you think is responsible?

@Rob #10 May 6, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Don’t blame the oil companies. If they sold gas at cost, you would hardly notice a difference in the per-gallon price. Instead direct your outrage at our lawmakers (and moron voters) who keep adding gas taxes.

Vandy May 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Gas should cost way more than it does. Problem is that there is no price paid for the cleanup of CO2 produced by burning gas. It is an assumption that O2 and CO2 can be infinitely produced for no cost. Petroleum combustion is a huge scam on future generations because petroleum availability is limited, and also because there is no accounting for the cyclical effects of the production of excess CO2. The planet will no doubt adjust, but the effects on the climate and sea level are difficult to predict and headed in a bad direction. Best thing to do as an individual would be to reduce petroleum use as much as possible while promoting renewable energy.

BagsFlyFree May 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM

There are a few guaranteed things in life… We all know the first few, but higher trending gas/utility prices are right behind the ole tax man. Keep the car clean (junk out the trunk), tires properly inflated, get tuneups when needed, and keep the burnouts to a minimum…

BFF Out!

J May 6, 2014 at 4:13 PM

This week CBS/KCBS had a story on a 50 cent per gallon drop in gas prices due to recent falling prices for oil, so no we won’t see it in the near future.

I check my Gas Buddy app & usually the lowest gas is at Bonfair on Grant, Costco and occasionally World. For Diesel it’s Bonfair & surprisingly Valero on YV & Oak Grove.

Triple Canopy May 6, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Define “near future”….

@Vandy May 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Did you just wake up from a 50-year slumber or something?

Kyle May 6, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Vandy @ 23 – I’m curious, how much do you pay to clean up the CO2 that you exhale?

Noj @ 23 – So the oil companies, who search for, drill, pump, transport, refine, and distribute the gasoline we use get ~ 19¢ per gallon profit (5% @ $4.25/gallon, less taxes), which is taxable income, while the government, which contributes nothing to the process, gets ~55¢ per gallon (plus taxes from the oil company profits).

Remind me again who the greedy ones are?

MDUSD Grad May 6, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Yes, it will. There’s already talk of increasing the federal gas tax, which has been at $0.18 since 1993.

Then there’s talk of taxing by the mile in CA, which I expect to be replaced by hiking the state gas tax instead, as it’s easier to convince voters that it’s due to greedy oil companies than politicians raising taxes (which would be very evident if they follow through with the mileage tax).

Then add in growing global demand for pol and we’ll be at $5/gallon within the next 5 years I bet.

MDUSD Grad May 6, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Oh, and I forgot to add in the EPA’s RFS2 program and CARB’s LCFS program, which will only continue to push prices up as oil companies have to buy more and more renewable fuels to meet regulation.

gimli May 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM

I don’t think we’ll see $5 until 2016. Higher prices result in less consumption. Does that mean less air pollution/smog for cities like San Francisco and LA.

Concord May 6, 2014 at 5:11 PM

@Nope not everybody can afford a tesla

KAD May 6, 2014 at 5:46 PM

I forgot to add that I get my gas at the Safeway gas station when I can and have a lot of gas credits. Saved .60 a gallon last time I filled up.

Dennis May 6, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Recall the Gray Davis recall? (ahem)
$19B budget shortfall, following the collapse … the State was expecting to get lotsa tax, voted lotsa spending bills, and then … oops. All those eggs didn’t hatch, and we were stuck footing the bill for the politician spending spree.
During the recall, Davis’ ads were saying it wasn’t really $19B shortfall, because gas had gone from $$3-$4, and that extra dollar generated an unexpected $5B in sales tax.
When gas prices go up, sales tax revenue goes up. Politicians have no reason to want lower gas pries, because they lose billions in funding.
Of course, Feinstein and Pelosi have always advocated adding an additional 75 cents per gallon, “to encourage fuel economy”.
Note all those trucks delivering what you buy to stores? They pay those penalties too … and rather than absorb those costs, they pass them on to the stores. The store pass them on to you.
So you pay not only the tax on the gas you use, but the tax on the gas used by Safeway FedEx and even government owned vehicles.
Its like buying your own medical insurance, and paying for the other guy’s too.

An additional 75 cents per gallon tax would double what we pay now. And double the revenue for the politicians to spend.

I’m guessing that the cost of gas will RISE 75 cents/gal instead of DROPPING 75 cents/gal.

Gas stations will have to stock up on the number “5” for their price boards. Too bad they threw away all the “2”s, which they’d need if gas dropped below $3/gal by removing all the taxes.

Dennis May 6, 2014 at 6:03 PM


CO2 scares you, does it? It’s what makes all those green things grow. It’s what comes from volcanos and forest fires. It is what you exhale every breath you take.

and between 1942-1972 CO2 continued to rise just like it did for 40 years previously and the 40 years following. But the global average temperature dropped continuously during those 30 years.

If, as the alarmists claim, CO2 forces heating, then why did we have 30 years of cooling while CO2 was rising?

And what is so bad about having more land with green growing things on it?

ClayDen May 6, 2014 at 6:12 PM

In real cost per mile, gas prices haven’t gone up that much. I remember paying $35-.42 per gallon in the late 1960s, which equates to about $2.75/gallon today. I drove a car that averaged around 15 mpg then, and my primary car now averages 28, so my cost per mile is about the same. Plus I can afford it a lot more now than I could then. I usually buy my gas on YV Rd, and the cheapest name brand station is usually the Shell across from WC BART; the Chevron at YV and North Main is usually the same or a couple of cents more. If I’m at or near Costco, I buy it there. I like small cars (with good performance), so I’m OK with current prices. If higher prices force more SUVs off the road, I’m good with that too. Drive a hybrid if you want, just remember: slower traffic keep to the right. Zoom Zoom!

TinFoiler May 6, 2014 at 6:34 PM

ALL BS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Volkswagen XL1 gets 261 mpg
The Oil companies have had the Largest Hand in Stopping these type of cars from hitting the Streets of USA.
You’re getting it from all ends. Keep being in denial. Keep watching sports. Keep watching TV. It’s your kids that are going to get the shaft ~ Me, Me, Me is all people can think about. Ridiculous.

happy May 6, 2014 at 7:10 PM

#20 I just came down from Oregon gas is 40cents per gallon cheaper.

MrDioji May 6, 2014 at 8:28 PM

So many people need to be better informed in here. I’m not going to do it except to state that:

Gas is taxed as a way to help pay for transportation projects. When everyone was driving gasoline vehicles, this was the easiest way to impose a road use tax. Now with hybrid and electric vehicles, the roads are still used, but the use taxes are not paid. A VMT tax may make sense as the vehicle types change.

I love how people complain so much about taxes yet have no problem
using what those taxes pay for. /s

Dennis May 6, 2014 at 8:55 PM

and what of the “tolls” for the bridges? They were originally to pay for the construction and maintenance of the bridges, but only about $0.25 of each toll goes into that fund. The rest goes into the SF general fund, to pay for public union Muni wages and benefits, and whatever else SF chooses.

I disagree that road or gas taxes will be applied to roads and transportation; history shows us that it goes into the general fund, where politicians can spend it on anything they choose.

It is a way to offset the overspending of politicians in other areas, rather than curb their “buy a vote” habit.

Dennis May 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

and beyond the taxes we pay at the pump, has anyone been keeping tabs on the everlasting lawsuits of Richmond vs. Chevron? Property taxes in the hundreds of millions are being grabbed by communities from oil companies. Those costs are undoubtedly passed on to the consumer, as a “hidden tax” at the pump.

anon May 6, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Lets hope it goes down before it has negative effect on the economy. Already spending less on other things.

its me! May 6, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I get my gas at chevron.I know that people say its expensive but it has techron that helps your cars tank stay clean.Yesterday i went to pump gas at chevron infront of safeway in clayton rd and gas was $4.36 the medium one and in walnut creek it was $4.65 so it much cheaper in concord i guess. but its still cheaper than shell

ClayDen May 6, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Regular is $4.17 at the Shell across from WC BART on YV Rd and the same at Chevron at YV Rd and North Main (across from Target).

Anon777 May 7, 2014 at 6:14 AM

nytemuvr: Yes, but I’m paying a lot less per gallon!

Aspirin May 7, 2014 at 7:35 AM

The Europeans are decades ahead of us in almost every way, including public transportation managing the very high cost of gas. They drive fuel-efficient cars and fewer SUVs and fewer fashion pickup trucks. We waste gas so we deserve to pay more. Fat people need fat vehicles and we are some of the fattest people on the planet.

Aspirin May 7, 2014 at 7:42 AM

Electric and gas/electric vehicles are the future of personal transportation. Bet on it. Commercial trucks will be using it also, just like the railroads’ switch from steam to Diesel we will be seeing hybrid big-rigs someday.

Michael 1 May 7, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Europeans pay 75 percent tax per liter of gas .Do the math ,take away the tax ,they pay less for gas than we do .Everything is taxed over there including food. That’s how they pay for free health care .

peter May 8, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Gas prices are only high for some people, not the rich. High gas prices are like class warfare. The rich want to increase gas prices to the point where only rich people are driving on the freeway. The rich don’t want to look at your Toyota, Nissan, Kia, Chevy, of Ford.

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