Claycord – Talk About Politics

May 2, 2014 19:58 pm · 622 comments

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This post is “Talk About Politics”.

Please use this post to talk about politics, and keep politics out of the “whatever” thread.

Thank you, and be kind to each other!

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401 Peter May 7, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Post 383 is a true story

402 The Policies May 7, 2014 at 2:14 PM

@399

Not afraid, disgusted.

403 The Policies May 7, 2014 at 2:21 PM

@mtzman #396

It was originally brought up with Bill Clinton’s impeachment.
The senate tried to impeach Jackson but obviously did not have the Constitutional authority to do so, so instead, the censored him, which was later rescinded.
That is why I listed Slick Willy as 2nd and mentioned the “discussions” about Jackson.

404 Young Democrat Lesson for today May 7, 2014 at 2:44 PM

1. Run up the National Debt to ruinous levels.

2. Destroy the economy and kill jobs.

3. Increase the number of people on welfare and food stamps.

4. Divide the country and pit one against the other.

5. Force the Border Patrol to look the other way and let our borders be overrun with illegals, we need the voting base.

6. Destroy the value of the U.S. dollar.

7. Lie to the American people over and over.

8. Create the biggest entitlement program in the history of the world in the middle of a recession.

I can go on and on but I don’t want to take up the whole page.

405 furian May 7, 2014 at 3:07 PM

@389,

Don’t back off from your comments now! Don’t be a wingie coward!

So much for your conspiracy theories, evaporated into nothing. All you have left is your claims of superiority and nonsensical talking points.

I hope you’re not homeschooling your 12 year old!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

406 mtzman May 7, 2014 at 3:42 PM

@The Policies #407, you’re right about Jackson but Clinton still was the second president to be impeached, the first being Andrew Johnson. Neither Johnson nor Clinton were convicted, of course, and, in fact, Clinton emerged probably more popular than ever. Makes current discussions about Obama, who also has absolutely no chance of being convicted or removed from office, seem a little silly …

407 ...Thought You Were Watching Him May 7, 2014 at 3:44 PM

74 year old Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) alleged the Koch brothers of being the “main cause” of climate change.

Evidently he’s not yet enough of an embarrassment to the democrat party.

408 mtzman May 7, 2014 at 3:48 PM

@et al. #404, yes, the story about the writing assignment is all over the news but the part about it being the result of common core is what is made up. Common Core doesn’t even start in California until next school year …

409 JWB May 7, 2014 at 3:51 PM

thanks laughed at tool …. just confirms that you have no clue and I would be waisting my time dicussing a financial analysis with you. But that’s fine I never expected anything else from you ;-)

410 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 4:01 PM

“1. Run up the National Debt to ruinous levels.”

Thank you, Bush.

“2. Destroy the economy and kill jobs.”

Thank you, Bush.

“3. Increase the number of people on welfare and food stamps.”

Thank you, Bush.

“4. Divide the country and pit one against the other.”

Thank you, Bush.

“5. Force the Border Patrol to look the other way and let our borders be overrun with illegals, we need the voting base.”

Thank you, Bush.

“6. Destroy the value of the U.S. dollar.”

Thank you, Bush.

“7. Lie to the American people over and over.”

Thank you, Bush.

“8. Create the biggest entitlement program in the history of the world in the middle of a recession.”

Thank you, Bush.

“I can go on and on but I don’t want to take up the whole page.”

Good thing Obama was twice elected President. It’s nice to have someone competent in the WH after Bush’s 8 years of failed policies.

411 Hmmmm May 7, 2014 at 4:01 PM

“Government officials, reacting to the growing voice of conservative news outlets, especially on the internet, are angling to curtail the media’s exemption from federal election laws governing political organizations, a potentially chilling intervention that the chairman of the Federal Election Commission is vowing to fight.”
http://washingtonexaminer.com/fec-chair-warns-that-conservative-media-like-drudge-report-and-sean-hannity-face-regulation-like-pacs/article/2548163

Could Blogs be one of their targets? Would they dare to try an intimidate individual posters?

412 New Math ? May 7, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Being reported many of Obamacare’s enrollments are duplicates.
Press Secretary keeps saying they don’t have numbers “yet”. Will the administration withhold their numbers until after November elections.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2014/05/07/confirmed-many-of-obamacares-8-million-enrollees-are-duplicates-n1834786

413 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 4:07 PM

et-al #383

When did this take place, and when was common core implemented in CA?

414 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 4:14 PM

et-al #383

Furthermore, do you have a problem with teaching children critical thinking skills?

415 Where's Mine May 7, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Mocking posters greet Obama.
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/05/07/mocking-posters-greet-obama-in-l-a/

HEeeeee’S BACK, obama is coming back in CA to schmooze with the mega rich one percent campaign contributors again.
democrats need to perpetuate the cycle. One percent contribute, democrats that win office pass bills to benefit the One Percent contributors an their companies, steer taxpayer dollars back to the One Percent and their companies and the cycle repeats.

416 Noflow May 7, 2014 at 4:25 PM

99% of Democrats give the rest a bad name….

417 Laughs @ Tools May 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM

JWB @ 413 said, “just confirms that you have no clue and I would be wasting my time discussing a (sic) financial analysis with you.”

Well isn’t that a funny response to my invitation to compare analyses. Especially from someone who has yet to display any “economical” information

In fact it looks like you are running away from the discussion.

So, let’s see your FA chops. I’ll invite you a second time to provide a cost/benefit analysis of the solar project. And since you are a financial analysis whiz, you know the full suite of parameters that you need to report.

Time to put up or shut up junior.

418 Centerline May 7, 2014 at 4:38 PM

“critical thinking skills?”
As long as independent critical thinking skills are taught, is not a problem. Becomes a Problem when a left or right slant is forced upon very impressionable minds.

IF this were not already perceived to be a problem, doubt home schooling would be as popular as it is.

Many years ago Vladimir Lenin said “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”

419 Dennis May 7, 2014 at 4:39 PM

@ShallowBrain NASA? you mean NASA which confessed to a simple math error which had them wrongly claim 1998 instead of 1939 at the warmest year of the 20th Century?
Peer Review? By those scientists who refused to let opposing scientific reviewers be a part of the “peer review” process?

One more time: from about 1940 to about 1972 the annual temperature DROPPED continually, but CO2 INCREASED continually. How does that prove rising CO2 causes rising temperature?

and I’ve already (repeatedly) posted articles by world-renowned scientists who “disagree”. The Chicken Little Brigade of climate alarmists only response? They try to discredit the opposing scientists, and exclude them from the peer review process, labelling them “deniers” (to imply that they are like those who deny the Holocaust).

Regardless of the scientific research, the political spin on the results stands as totally corrupt. Gore was the tie-breaking vote for Ethanol, and he admitted it was bad science, but he did it to win the corn belt vote for his Presidential run.

Here’s the 1-2-3 falsehoods pimped by Socialists:

1 – the earth is in a warming phase
2- the temperature will not cycle this time; for the first time in history, the earth will continue to warm until it is uninhabitable.
3- this unprecedented continuation of warming is caused by individually owned industry (capitalism), and only by destroying industry in free and democratic societies can the warming be controlled or reversed.

odd that while they scream about #1 being true, they refuse to discuss the validity of items 2 and 3. They cannot offer proof, but they insist that they are true, and capitalism bust be destroyed immediately. Of course, any indication of success controlling the weather will not be available until about 100 years after Capitalism is extinct.

bottom line: chicken-little pronouncements are propaganda designed to attack capitalism. The urgency is not due to immediate damage to the earth, it is due to the realization that once the earth re-enters a cooling phase, there will be no excuse to demand the destruction of capitalism.

and for 10 years, there has been no dramatic increase in sea levels, hurricanes, blizzards, or anything else that the alarmists predicted.

now the alarmists are in a last-gasp desperate attempt to accomplish their coup before the public figures out they were being scammed.

420 Laughs @ Tools May 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM

@ 401 said, “But the republican candidates don’t talk about them (any issues other than the Lewinsky scandal)”.

Really? Republican efforts to end/fundamentally chance Obamacare are all over the news. As are Repulican responses to events in Israel, Libya, and the Ukraine. And the IRS scandal (lots of new news today re: Lois Lerner – are you even aware of that?). And the moribund economy (do you even know what the CQ1 growth rate is?). And … and … and …

As I said before,”These issues seem to be a surprise to you, and that’s sad.”

421 News May 7, 2014 at 4:41 PM

House of Representatives has voted to hold Lois Lerner the former IRS official in contempt of Congress.

422 Dennis May 7, 2014 at 4:44 PM

@shadowblade
“critical thinking” does not mean “careful and accurate analysis”.
It means “criticize and find fault with opposing political views, denigrate the icons and values of their philosophies, and never ever criticize your own preferred philosophy”

in other words, “critical thinking” is the New Left’s approach to attacking American values and culture and political beliefs.

423 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 4:46 PM

A new and dire global warming report from the Obama administration warns of a growing link between human activity and extreme weather across the country — but Republicans charge the findings will be used to muscle through costly emissions regulations.

The National Climate Assessment, four years in the making, gave a region-by-region breakdown of how climate change is impacting the United States — in the form of droughts, heat waves and increasingly intense hurricanes, though it is still uncertain how much of that is due to “human activity.” The report stopped short of definitively attributing a rash of extreme weather to man-made climate change, concluding “there is new and stronger evidence that many of these increases are related to human activities.”

“Climate change, once considered an issue for a distant future, has moved firmly into the present,” the 840-page report states. “Corn producers in Iowa, oyster growers in Washington state and maple syrup producers in Vermont are all observing climate-related changes that are outside of recent experience.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/06/administration-issues-dire-climate-change-warnings-amid-regulatory-push/?intcmp=latestnews

- This is really burning the Red states…God’s will?

- We can be sure the mid-westen and southern states will not turn to the Federal government for relief from the sudden extremes of climate stability we are experiencing.

- Now we will find out why the SNAP program was attached to the Farm Bill…something experienced old timey Senators learned and understood.

- In the olden days (Before 2010), freshman Senators generally learned what was going on and how to do things, rather than snatch the helm and run the ship of state onto the beach.

424 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 4:47 PM

YOUNG DEMOCRAT TRAINING LESSON: Founding fathers

Our founding fathers wanted freedom from British taxes and British Parliamentary laws for all free landholders. Unpropertied white men, women, slaves, and all other people of color were denied the franchise (right to vote), in those most precious documents.

The revolution for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness was simply the effort to avoid repaying the Crown for prosecuting the French and Indian War, which was fought primarily at King George III’s expense. As British subjects, they already enjoyed all the rights of an Englishman established in English penal, and civil common law.

“In the United Kingdom, the Bill of Rights is further accompanied by the Magna Carta, 1215 AD, the Petition of Right, Habeas Corpus Act 1679. A separate but similar document, the Claim of Right Act, 1689 AD applies in Scotland. The Bill of Rights (1688 or 1689) was one of the inspirations for the United States Bill of Rights.”

The Stamp Act and the Tax on Tea Act were simply low cost attempts by the King to recover his cost of protecting British citizens against conquest and murder during the French and Indian Wars. These taxes were rebuffed by the colonies as “taxation without representation” yet our national documents clearly “de-represent” nearly two thirds (2/3) of the politic at the time.

The supposed “Bible” based Constitution together with the Bill of Rights was simply stiffing the King on the bill…a successful program of the American Whigs (Sons of Liberty) that were primordial “state rights” Republicans.

They are still trying to avoid paying their fair share of the tab after 238 years.

God Bless the Queen.

425 Dennis May 7, 2014 at 4:48 PM

“The Frankfurt School (German: Frankfurter Schule) was a school of neo-Marxist interdisciplinary social theory, associated in part with the Institute for Social Research at the University of Frankfurt am Main.

“As the growing influence of National Socialism became ever more threatening, its founders decided to prepare to move the Institute out of the country. Following Adolf Hitler’s rise to power in 1933, the Institute left Germany for Geneva, before moving to New York City in 1935, where it became affiliated with Columbia University.

“Horkheimer, Adorno and Pollock eventually resettled in West Germany in the early 1950s, although Marcuse, Lowenthal, Kirchheimer and others chose to remain in the United States. It was only in 1953 that the Institute was formally re-established in Frankfurt

“They may not teach Marx, but Marx himself has been irrelevant for a very long time now. His descendants, however, ARE taught, and ARE relevant.

*** “The Frankfurt School’s agenda was to infiltrate our institutions — especially education — and interject its “critical pedagogy” into the curricula. Question our Founders, questions our ancestors, question their motives, their actions, their lifestyles, their beliefs, and eventually the entire system itself comes into question, and the very morality of our laws, our principles, our economy, all of it, becomes fair game and fertile ground for socialist uprising. ***

“Gramsci, upon realizing that the Soviet Union was a failure, remarked that it failed because the PEOPLE weren’t ready for a worker’s state. He said they must be indoctrinated, first, to hate everything about themselves, and then the “outter wall” of the state will fall naturally, without violent uprising, wherein the socialists can walk right in and set up shop.

“The Frankfurt School picked up that ball and ran with it. And it continues to this day.

I”n any event, the Frankfurt School’s biggest accomplishment is the pervasion of critical theory. The descendents of which have completely infiltrated the disciplines of sociology and psychology, for one. It also has lasting effects on the historian community.

“You’re looking for a smoking gun, when in reality all it is, is a school of thought that influenced scholars, who took what the Frankfurt School suggested — challenging the status quo, and Western civilization’s conception of itself, and turning it all on its head — and applied it to their various disciplines.

“In history, they began picking apart the Founding Fathers, “exposing” them as people unworthy of our reverence (so, too, implicitly, then, their ideas). In sociology they re-invented social theory, which asserted itself in everything from art, to movies, to literature, in a decentralized attempt to undermine everything the West had held as axiomatic to its existence: Christianity, the atomic family, the class system, etc.”

426 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 4:48 PM

YOUNG DEMOCRAT TRAINING LESSON: Tea “Bagger” History

Rachael Maddow pulled the Tea Bagger stuff on her MSNBC cable show. I was watching as she suddenly blurted out a spontaneous joke, based on the little known double entendre that left her and the studio in stitches. The Tea Party made the name and she taught the alternative meaning.

She knew from her lifestyle, exactly what it meant, while I, a man of vast experience, didn’t understand the idea. I think it a treacherous procedure requiring great amounts of trust; something one might develop only in a long-term relationship, or if a revolver was involved to prevent mistakes. I am glad she likes it. I suppose she or her friends has some experience that supplements her free gender identity.

Using this term against the Republican Tea Party is a cheap shot.

Besides, Democrats should stop allowing the Republicans a pass for pretending these vandals may not represent the entire party. They were all in until the final hours of the shut down of 2013 and they repeatedly vote as a block to defund ObamaCare (54 times).

Lets hold everyone accountable for the harm they mean for the country.

Do not let them use the WW II, German infantry defense, “But I was not a Nazis”.

“The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” ~ Winston Churchill

Let’s clean the House in 2014.
Vote for a loyal American…for a Change!

427 Laughs @ Tools May 7, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Wow, shadowblade @ 414 is still fighting against Bush, would someone remind him that Bush hasn’t been President for 5 years? He refuses to listen to me, to his detriment.

While you are at it, you might let him know that nearly all of those points are demonstrably worse under Obama – the point of the original post. For example, if shadowblade considers Bush’s final $10 trillion debt ruinous, how can Obama’s current $17 trillion debt be OK? Or the $20 trillion debt projected for the end of his term?

Oh wait, we’re talking about shadowblade here – facts and intelligence needn’t apply.

Sorry!

(shadowblade – no need to respond, I’d hate to pull you away from your kiddie video games to further embarass yourself. Carry on with your “World of Warhammer” quest, or whatever you call them.)

428 et-al May 7, 2014 at 4:51 PM

mtzman -
I found this on a pro Common Core website: “The Common Core presents an opportunity to inspire teachers to teach history as an investigative process instead of something to memorize”. Unbelievable!

The problem with treating History and Math facts as theories is you can replace universal hard truths with “opinions”. That will destroy the foundation of education and learning to the point that everything you read could be considered correct depending on the most persuasive person presenting the argument– that’s the road we’re already headed down.

“It is Anti Defamation League’s (ADL) general position that an exercise asking students to question whether the Holocaust happened has no academic value; it only gives legitimacy to the hateful and anti-Semitic promoters of Holocaust Denial,” (perhaps that suits you mtzman)

In a separate post, the ADL said there’s “no evidence” (love that oft used disclaimer) that the assignment was given as part of a “larger, insidious, agenda.” However, the post continued, “the district seems to have given the assignment with an intent, although misguided, to meet Common Core standards relating to critical learning skills.”

Looks like those over-zealous liberal teachers couldn’t wait until Common Core is official here.
They’re our kids, not the government’s, don’t automatically trust teachers to do what’s right. One need not be smart to teach, only trained to perform.

429 Dennis May 7, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Dems are the old home for criminals. They check in, and never check out.

Alcee Lamar Hastings (born September 5, 1936) is the U.S. Representative for Florida’s 23rd congressional district, serving since 1993. He is a member of the Democratic Party.

Hastings was previously a federal judge, impeached and removed from office in 1989 for corruption and perjury.

This man is one of only 13 federal judges in the nation’s history to be impeached and one of only seven to be removed.

430 Dennis May 7, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Note PhanDumbAndDumber #428 is a perfect example of the Frankfurt School’s New Left “critical thinking” propaganda.

431 JWB May 7, 2014 at 5:26 PM

@ Dennis #429

For how long have you been yapping here that the German Nazis were Marxists

and today you are telling us about the “Marxist Frankfurter School”

“As the growing influence of National Socialism became ever more threatening, its founders decided to prepare to move the Institute out of the country. Following Adolf Hitler’s rise to power in 1933, the Institute left Germany for Geneva, before moving to New York City in 1935, where it became affiliated with Columbia University.”

If you tell the truth, you don’t have to have a good memory — Judge Judy

432 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Dennis #423

“@ShallowBrain NASA? you mean NASA which confessed to a simple math error which had them wrongly claim 1998 instead of 1939 at the warmest year of the 20th Century?
Peer Review? By those scientists who refused to let opposing scientific reviewers be a part of the “peer review” process?”

Still pushing lies and name-calling, I see.

The warmest year of the 20th Century wasn’t in the 1930s, it was 1998. Think Global, not US.

“One more time: from about 1940 to about 1972 the annual temperature DROPPED continually, but CO2 INCREASED continually. How does that prove rising CO2 causes rising temperature?”

This has been explained already. Aerosols, remember?

Bottom line…you dismiss the science and the scientific organizations, because it doesn’t fit with your view of the world. Instead, you rely on political talking-points. Like I said…science disagrees with you and your position.

433 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Don’t tell Conservatives, but Reagan more than doubled the national debt. Combined with his VP successor, the national debt more than quadrupled.

They don’t need to know this, as they simply ignore relevant facts.

Oh…one more thing…

What will the national debt have to be on September 30th in order for the % increase under Bush and Obama to be the same for their first 5.5 years in office?

I don’t expect Conservatives to answer this, as I know math isn’t their strong suit. But I’m sure Yhe Phantom, JWB, etc, could.

434 Dennis May 7, 2014 at 5:40 PM

for those of you (Socialists all) who praise Canadas health care system, and want to see it duplicated here:
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Executive Summary: This study is The Fraser Institute’s third annual report on the financial sustainability of provincial public health insurance. Every year the data are updated and new projections generated. This year’s analysis again uses the most recent five-year trends in the annual growth rates for total provincial public expenditure on health care and total provincial government revenue from all sources to project future growth in these measures.

The results confirm that health-care financing, as it is currently structured in Canada, is not financially sustainable.

Health spending has been growing faster on average than revenue in all provinces for a long time and has also outpaced inflation and economic growth. This has resulted in health care taking up an increasing share of provincial revenue over time, despite higher tax burdens in each of the provinces as well as government policies that restrict access to medically necessary goods and services.

The analysis in this study show that, if provincial governments continue to pursue policies that lead to the same rates of growth in health spending and revenue that have been observed in the recent past, public health-care expenditures will soon exceed the capacity of governments to pay for them.

Based on the most recent five-year trends, public health spending in six of 10 provinces is on pace to consume more than half of total revenue from all sources by the year 2020, two thirds by the year 2035, and all of provincial revenue by 2050.

Last year, public spending on health care in seven of 10 provinces was on pace to consume more than half of total revenues by 2022, two thirds by the year 2032, and all of provincial revenue by 2050.

435 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Dennis #426

It’s apparent you never developed critical thinking skills. You keep trying to pass off 1934 (not 1939) as the warmest year, ignoring the fact that we are comparing GLOBAL temperatures.

Do we need to revisit your claim (twice) that 14000 servicemen died under Clinton?

436 et-al May 7, 2014 at 5:47 PM

@ shadowblade 417 & 418 -

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

437 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 6:10 PM

et-al #440

Common Core hasn’t yet been implemented in CA. Therefore, Common Core can’t be responsible.

Sounds like you could benefit from a critical thinking class.

438 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM

http://www.cde.ca.gov/re/cc/ccssfaqs2010.asp#four

“When do the new standards take effect?

The standards were adopted by the SBE on August 2, 2010. However, it will take several years to implement curriculum, instructional materials, and assessments based on the new standards. During its March 2012 meeting, the SBE voted to present, in partnership with the State Superintendent of Public Instruction (SSPI), the Common Core State Standards Systems Implementation Plan for California to the Governor and the California State Legislature thereby fulfilling the requirements of California Education Code Section 60605.8 (h).

The plan is a living document that identifies major phases and activities in the implementation of the CCSS throughout California’s educational system. The document includes several appendices, including a template organized around the significant milestones of CCSS systems implementation that local educational agencies (LEAs) may use as a starting point for developing their own local plans. In addition, the plan includes information from various professional organizations and stakeholder groups regarding how these organizations can assist LEAs in implementing the CCSS.

Each of California’s LEAs should develop its own local plan for CCSS systems implementation based on local needs and resources. The CCSS systems implementation plan and the excerpted local CCSS systems implementation plan template are available on the CDE CCSS Web page.”

Common Core hasn’t been implemented yet in CA.

439 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM

What if Lois Lerner, (a Republican) took all the “special words” applicants out of the approval process to protect them from being rejected for being temporary political support groups and fake tax exempt 501(c)4′s?

- Hold the files till after the election and if the Republicans win…no problem. If they lose, make a revelation in May of 2012 to confuse the situation and provoke claims of wrong doing by Democrats.

This makes sense against her Fifth Amendment claims

Nevertheless, Congress cannot deprive a witness of their fifth amendment rights.

440 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Still…

Our founding fathers wanted freedom from British taxes and British Parliamentary laws for all free landholders. Un- propertied white men, women, slaves, and all other people of color were denied the franchise (right to vote), in those most precious documents.

The revolution for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness was simply the effort to avoid repaying the Crown for prosecuting the French and Indian War, which was fought primarily at King George III’s expense. As British subjects, they already enjoyed all the rights of an Englishman established in English penal, and civil common law.

441 Ronald Reagan created an economic boom that lasted for 25 years May 7, 2014 at 6:15 PM

We call this period, 1982-2007, the twenty-five year boom–the greatest period of wealth creation in the history of the planet. In 1980, the net worth–assets minus liabilities–of all U.S. households and business … was $25 trillion in today’s dollars. By 2007, … net worth was just shy of $57 trillion. Adjusting for inflation, more wealth was created in America in the twenty-five year boom than in the previous two hundred years.

Obama’s policies are the exact opposite of Reagan’s

Obama will cause Economic doom for 25 or more years.

Obama is the worst thing to ever happen to America, hopefully it will not take long to dig ourselves out of his massive debt.

442 et-al May 7, 2014 at 6:20 PM

shadowblade –

If I may quote Pegasus;
“Good joke! I know you’re joking cuz, ain’t no one THAT stupid”

443 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 6:21 PM

For those of you who support the healthcare system in the US before Obamacare…

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries/

444 Dennis May 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

@ShallowBrain #439

whatever. The warmest year of the 20th Century was at the end of the 1930s, not the end of the 1990s. Kinda puts a hole in your theory that the massive industrialization from WW2 onwards caused warming; most of the warming occurred BEFORE that industrial surge.

and you refer to the erroneous – and immediately corrected – KIA numbers for Afghanistan? Tell us how many have been KIA since Obama took office. Tell us about how many have died because Obama lied about making our withdrawal there his first priority upon taking office. Whazzat? You know the numbers are HUGE, so you don’t want to discuss them?

How about closing Gitmo? Another Obama lie?

Why is it that you always are on the offensive, (per critical thinking policy), but never want to defend your side of the issues?

Answer: because your side is indefensible.

C’mon, ShallowBrain, show us the numbers of how many have died under Obama’s inept leadership.

445 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Remember this from last month?

“Republicans are stupid.

“How stupid are they?

“They are so stupid that they haven’t figured out that Lois Lerner was pulling some Republican election stuff by stashing the 501(c)4 applications until after the election…that’s Republican stupid.

“By bringing up the supposed irregularities in May 2013, it was a distraction, and could never be cleared up by November 2014. It was all a cunning tangential attack on the IRS and Affordable Care Act…that failed.

“Lois retired in September 2013…five months after her revelation.

“The Republican focus on three simple subjects has enabled our President to carry on brilliantly in so many areas.

Stay focused.

446 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 7:32 PM

That was as big a shock, Lerner deception, to Republicans as Westmorland planning a nuclear attack in Vietnam…surprise, surprise.

447 mtzman May 7, 2014 at 7:33 PM

@et al. #432 said, “I found this on a pro Common Core website: ‘The Common Core presents an opportunity to inspire teachers to teach history as an investigative process instead of something to memorize’. Unbelievable!”

I couldn’t disagree with you more. What the common core is getting at is that mere memorization of facts does not constitute the study of history. It is a component, for sure, but there needs to be far more and history is indeed a process. One need only spend a few minutes on this website to see “facts” bandied about but with little consensus on how to interpret or what those facts mean in the overall scheme of things.

Teaching history as an investigative process also allows one to see perspective. As an exercise to freshmen history students at a local major university several years ago, I had my students pick the day they were born and utilize original and primary source materials to analyze what happened on that particular day. They were to pull newspapers from the town they were born in and look at the important headlines, look at what was on television and playing in the movies, look at sports and look at advertisements to see what was selling and for how much. One of my students was born on July 4, 1976 and began her paper saying “nothing important happened that day,” so she went on to describe the other items. While in the United States we know that something very important happened that day but apparently nothing much was happening in Seoul, South Korea where the student was born. This led to a very important point about perspective and also the need to see history as an investigative process that can change with new “facts” becoming known.

There is nothing sinister about the common core. However, I do agree that the holocaust assignment was inappropriate but probably not for the same reason the ADL does. I’ll probably have someone tell me I’m a socialist for saying this, but a similar type of assignment that was less politically charged might have been to investigate whether people really landed on the moon or not, or who killed JFK, or something like that.

448 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 7:39 PM

“Ronald Reagan created an economic boom that lasted for 25 years”?

And then you wonder why everybody thinks you’re stupid.

10. There is a common Republican practice of forming an ideologically friendly conclusion before all the relevant information is collected, or worse, simply forming the conclusion before examining the information, or even trimming the information to fit the friendly conclusion. This they justify for the great moral mission they claim to serve.

12. Our greatest strength is their willingness to lie to everyone in the name of carrying out what they consider to be the Republicans Good Fight against the Good Solution. Yhe фантом”

449 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 7:48 PM

#448 Dennis May 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

shadowblade rips your arguments to pieces every time, then time passes and you bring up the same stupid claims, and they get shredded again…only for time to pass and get shredded again…then you post the same stupid claims again.

The only claim you ever made that held water was the inner city violence essays that never result in a solution from you, other than expensive extended and ultra expensive incarceration of everybody.

Prove me wrong!

450 Obamanomics May 7, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Obamanomics is how it so doggedly pursues the opposite of every one of these planks of Reaganomics. Instead of reducing tax rates, President Obama is committed to raising the top tax rates of virtually every major federal tax. As already enacted into current law, in 2013 the top two income tax rates will rise by nearly 20%, counting as well Obama’s proposed deduction phase-outs.

The capital gains tax rate will soar by nearly 60%, counting the new Obamacare taxes going into effect that year. The total tax rate on corporate dividends would increase by nearly three times. The Medicare payroll tax would increase by 62% for the nation’s job creators and investors. The death tax rate would go back up to 55%. In his 2012 budget and his recent national budget speech, President Obama proposes still more tax increases.

Instead of coming into office with spending cuts, President Obama’s first act was a nearly $1 trillion stimulus bill. In his first two years in office he has already increased federal spending by 28%, and his 2012 budget proposes to increase federal spending by another 57% by 2021.

His monetary policy is just the opposite as well. Instead of restraining the money supply to match money demand for a stable dollar, slaying an historic inflation, we have QE1 and QE2 and a steadily collapsing dollar, arguably creating a historic reflation.

And instead of deregulation we have across-the-board re-regulation, from health care to finance to energy, and elsewhere. While Reagan used to say that his energy policy was to “unleash the private sector,” Obama’s energy policy can be described as precisely to leash the private sector in service to Obama’s central planning “green energy” dictates.

As a result, while the Reagan recovery averaged 7.1% economic growth over the first seven quarters, the Obama recovery has produced less than half that at 2.8%, with the last quarter at a dismal 1.8%. After seven quarters of the Reagan recovery, unemployment had fallen 3.3 percentage points from its peak to 7.5%, with only 18% unemployed long-term for 27 weeks or more. After seven quarters of the Obama recovery, unemployment has fallen only 1.3 percentage points from its peak, with a postwar record 45% long-term unemployed.

Previously the average recession since World War II lasted 10 months, with the longest at 16 months. Yet today, 40 months after the last recession started, unemployment is still 8.8%, with America suffering the longest period of unemployment that high since the Great Depression. Based on the historic precedents America should be enjoying the second year of a roaring economic recovery by now, especially since, historically, the worse the downturn, the stronger the recovery. Yet while in the Reagan recovery the economy soared past the previous GDP peak after six months, in the Obama recovery that didn’t happen for three years. Last year the Census Bureau reported that the total number of Americans in poverty was the highest in the 51 years that Census has been recording the data.

Moreover, the Reagan recovery was achieved while taming a historic inflation, for a period that continued for more than 25 years. By contrast, the less-than-half-hearted Obama recovery seems to be recreating inflation, with the latest Producer Price Index data showing double-digit inflation again, and the latest CPI growing already half as much.

These are the reasons why economist John Lott has rightly said, “For the last couple of years, President Obama keeps claiming that the recession was the worst economy since the Great Depression. But this is not correct. This is the worst “recovery” since the Great Depression.”

However, the Reagan Recovery took off once the tax rate cuts were fully phased in. Similarly, the full results of Obamanomics won’t be in until his historic, comprehensive tax rate increases of 2013 become effective. While the Reagan Recovery kicked off a historic 25-year economic boom, will the opposite policies of Obamanomics, once fully phased in, kick off 25 years of economic stagnation, unless reversed?

451 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Libby Rahl. and anonymous

Wake up!

It’s time for your little spit and run comments.

452 mtzman May 7, 2014 at 8:05 PM

@The Phantom #452, yes, that whole post would have made a good argument for why history is more than just memorization of facts. What I got a kick out of was the fact that during those twenty-five years Bill Clinton was president longer than Ronald Reagan …

453 furian May 7, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Poor wingies.

Haven’t heard much talk about repealing the ACA lately?

It’s like tea baggers lost big time in their primarys? Poor wingies.

Hahahahaha

Too bad I like crazies in the general elections, establishment Republicans have a way btter chance against Democrats.

Oh well.

454 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Ronald Reagan created an economic boom that lasted for 25 years?

I think you will find that computer technology, pharmaceuticals, and home construction were rather beyond the pale of Ron/Nancy.

And don’t forget “The Graduate”…plastics.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/claythompson/2014/05/04/meaning-of-the-phrase-beyond-the-pale-clay-thompson/8630995/

455 et-al May 7, 2014 at 8:35 PM

mtzman -
You make some interesting points however I’m a bit jaded when the federal govt takes over states obligations. There’s no one size fits all.

As I wrote; The problem with treating History and Math facts as theories is you can replace universal hard truths with “opinions”. That will destroy the foundation of education and learning to the point that everything you read could be considered correct depending on the most persuasive person presenting the argument– that’s the road we’re already headed down.

456 anonmtz May 7, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Dear Friend,
There have been a number of encouraging developments with the Affordable Care Act I want to make sure you know about. Following the first ever open-enrollment period, which ran from October through mid-April, here are a few highlights:

•Covered California, the state’s new online health insurance marketplace, signed up nearly 1.4 million people for health insurance. Another 1.5 million enrolled or have been deemed eligible for expanded Medi-Cal, the state’s Medicaid program for lower-income people. This enrollment surpassed California’s initial enrollment goal of 815,900 individuals.

•Nationwide, about 13 million have gotten coverage under the Affordable Care Act so far, with more than 8 million signed up for health insurance on state and federal marketplaces, and 4.8 million through Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Program enrollment growth.

•The Affordable Care Act is also helping save money by reducing hospital readmission rates . From 2011 to 2012, reductions in drug events, falls, infections, and other forms of harm prevented nearly 15,000 deaths in hospitals, avoided 560,000 patient injuries, and approximately $4 billion in health spending.

•Health care costs are growing at the slowest level on record . In fact, 2012 was the first year since 1997 that health expenditures didn’t outpace gross domestic product.

•And the nonpartisan polling firm Gallup found the number of uninsured Americans is the lowest they’ve ever recorded .

The bottom line, as President Obama said: “This thing is working.” We’re one big step closer to an America where there is truly opportunity for all.

I’ll keep you updated as the implementation of this historic law moves ahead.

Sincerely,

GEORGE MILLER

457 Russ May 7, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Somebody please put the Constitution on Obama’s teleprompter.

458 ObamaCare Sucks! May 7, 2014 at 9:14 PM

America is already feeling the negative effects of Obamacare. Businesses hire fewer full time employees, to dodge employer mandates. Insurance companies are dropping coverage plans. A government shutdown is a direct negative impact on our economy.

There are real worries and major concerns in the American public. Many are concerned they will have to choose between paying their bills and choosing to pay their health insurance.

People without health coverage in 2014; have to pay a fine up to $95 per person and 100% of their healthcare costs. This fine for not having health insurance is an attack on the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and our civil liberties.

This act ignores part time workers; the Obamacare disaster is forcing employers across America to be quoted as saying they have no obligation to do anything for anybody who works less than 30 hours a week. The Obamacare act has already resulted in the reduction of full-time employees and ignores part-time workers. Due to the Obamacare act employers are cutting hours because of costs, and then they are not obligated to insure part time workers, how in the world can the President say this is health coverage for all of the Americans? Now fully implemented, Obamacare will never fully go away, but our liberty will.

Hundreds of thousands companies have experienced increased layoffs, slashing hours because they site Obamacare will penalize them if they do not have health coverage for all of their employees, and if any one employee works one minute over 28 hours in a week then they will be terminated. They simply would not be in business covering all their employees, so something has to give and that is the middle class and the poor people. Results of the slashed hours are about $200 less in each paycheck for many hourly waged employees.

The “successful” seem to be doing pretty well in Obama America. 95% of income gains since 2009 have gone to the top 1% of earners.

459 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 9:16 PM

What if Lois Lerner, (a Republican) took all the “special words” applicants out of the approval process to protect them from being rejected for being temporary political support groups and fake tax exempt 501(c)4′s?

- Hold the files till after the election and if the Republicans win…no problem. If they lose, make a revelation in May of 2012 to confuse the situation and provoke claims of wrong doing by Democrats.

This makes sense against her Fifth Amendment claims

Nevertheless, Congress cannot deprive a witness of their Fifth Amendment rights.

460 Yhe Phantom May 7, 2014 at 9:18 PM

#451 mtzman May 7, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Benghazi for an assignment!

http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2013/benghazi/#/?chapt=0

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/09/201291720158465768.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/world/middleeast/anger-over-film-fuels-anti-american-attacks-in-libya-and-egypt.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

- The Japanese cornered on Corregidor blew themselves up by igniting the ammo dump.

- Iwo Jima was full on and Mt Suribachi was secured three days earlier.

- In February, the Soviets invaded Silesia and Pomerania, while Western Allies entered Western Germany [At the Roer River] and closed to the Rhine river. By March, the Western Allies crossed the Rhine north and south of the Ruhr, encircling the German Army Group B

And I was born at St. Mary’s Hospital in San Francisco…with a birth certificate.

They were still investigating the Pearl Harbor attack until Sept of 1945.

mtzman, Please advise on any history scholarship errors, on any of my comments, as you please. Qualified analysis is much appreciated and helps true the pen.

461 Charlie Wilson's May 7, 2014 at 9:51 PM

NY Times article form late 2012, claimed that back in 2011
“The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar…”
Report was subsequently picked up by HotAir dot com which ran,
“Oopsie! In what has to be one of the least-shocking outcomes of Barack Obama’s Libyan adventure, the New York Times reports that his administration secretly gave approval of weapons shipments to Libyan resistance fighters, only to learn that the weapons ended up arming Islamist terror networks.”

March 2011 from ABC news ‘President Obama Authorizes Covert Help for Libyan Rebels’
http://abcnews.go.com/International/president-obama-authorizes-covert-libyan-rebels/story?id=13259028

Oct. 2013
“The U.S. intelligence community has concluded that a huge amount of weapons from Libya was transferred to Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaida-aligned militias. Officials said the Brotherhood has acquired U.S. weapons and military equipment stolen from Libyan Army bases..”
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/10/17/more-libyan-fallout-intel-finds-advanced-u-s-weapons-were-stolen-sold-abroad/

Evidently this administration didn’t learn from their Libya screw up, or is it just hubris?

Yesterday The Long War Journal ran a piece stating ‘US-made missiles reportedly in hands of Islamist fighters in Syria’
“Over the past few weeks, media reports have stressed that US officials have begun a “pilot program” of providing small quantities of advanced weapons, including TOW missiles, to vetted “moderate” groups, and specifically the Harakat Hazm, which fights in a newly formed coalition called the Southern Front.”

Will Syria turn into another bargain basement arms bonanza for terrorists as Libya did?

Dang Amateurs

462 Dennis May 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM

@anonmtz

how does that validate Obamacare?

“Covered California, the state’s new online health insurance marketplace, signed up nearly 1.4 million people for health insurance. Another 1.5 million enrolled or have been deemed eligible for expanded Medi-Cal, the state’s Medicaid program for lower-income people.”

“4.8 million through Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Program enrollment growth.”

expanded MediCal got more than Covered California? Why didn’t they just do the expanded MediCal instead of Obamacare? And PS MediCal is a LOAN from the government to the patient to pay medical costs. When that patient dies (someday), the State can and does seize all their property to repay the loan. If you use MediCal, your descendants won’t have an inheritance.

“reductions in drug events, falls, infections, and other forms of harm prevented nearly 15,000 deaths in hospitals, avoided 560,000 patient injuries, and approximately $4 billion in health spending. ”

that should be an ongoing process; there is no cause-effect relationship to Obamacare here. Fewer accidents? yessir, that’s because 1.4M people signed up through Covered California!

what a bunch of hokum.

463 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM

Dennis #448

“whatever. The warmest year of the 20th Century was at the end of the 1930s, not the end of the 1990s. Kinda puts a hole in your theory that the massive industrialization from WW2 onwards caused warming; most of the warming occurred BEFORE that industrial surge.”

NO!! The warmest year of the 20th Century, GLOBALLY, was 1998. Are you really this stupid?

“and you refer to the erroneous – and immediately corrected – KIA numbers for Afghanistan? Tell us how many have been KIA since Obama took office. Tell us about how many have died because Obama lied about making our withdrawal there his first priority upon taking office. Whazzat? You know the numbers are HUGE, so you don’t want to discuss them?”

Here you go again moving the goal posts. You don’t even get the point of servicemen killed under Clinton. The data came from a bogus email.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/military-deaths-under-clinton-and-bush/

“FULL ANSWER

Most of the numbers in this e-mail are completely made up. We were particularly amused by its bravado in providing a supposed source for the information – but anyone who bothers to check that source will find that it contradicts the information presented. The truth is that more military personnel died during the first six years of the Bush administration than died during the eight years Clinton was in office, even counting military deaths in the U.S. from accidents, murders, suicides and natural causes.”

Read this OK? The data came from a bogus email.

Read more… http://www.armytimes.com/article/20080325/NEWS/803250312/E-mail-military-deaths-shaky-facts

“How about closing Gitmo? Another Obama lie?”

Your point? Irrelevant to what we were discussing. However, Obama has been trying the prisoners in civilian court, which is what many people wanted.

“Why is it that you always are on the offensive, (per critical thinking policy), but never want to defend your side of the issues?

Answer: because your side is indefensible.”

BS. I’ve defended our position numerous times…like when I explained why deficit spending was necessary following the Recession of 2008, and why healthcare needed to be overhauled. You just refuse to hear the arguments because they don’t fit your view of the world. Instead, you just bully people with name-calling and falsehoods.

“C’mon, ShallowBrain, show us the numbers of how many have died under Obama’s inept leadership.”

Case in point…

Your still trying to relive your HS glory days. The rest of us moved on into adulthood.

464 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 10:00 PM

et-al #446

If I may quote Pegasus;
“Good joke! I know you’re joking cuz, ain’t no one THAT stupid”

Apparently, you are. You claimed Common Core was responsible for some writing assignment, even though Common Core hasn’t yet been implemented.

465 Ronald Reagan May 7, 2014 at 10:11 PM

7 Attacts 94 dead.

466 George W Bush May 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

13 attacks 60 dead.

467 shadowblade = Yhe Phantom = Fake Veteran May 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

————–

468 @laugh at tools 424 May 7, 2014 at 10:23 PM

I don’t watch Fox news. Open your eyes.

469 Grandma Has a Gun But Can't Hear May 7, 2014 at 10:26 PM

93-year-old Texas woman fatally shot by police

HEARNE, Texas (AP) — A 93-year-old Central Texas woman was fatally shot at her home by a police officer answering a call about a person with a gun, authorities said.

Pearlie Golden, a longtime resident of Hearne who was affectionately known to her neighbors as Ms. Sully, was shot Tuesday night, Robertson County District Attorney Coty Siegert said.

“She did have a gun. … Now, what she was doing with it, that is the ultimate question,” said Siegert.

The investigation is being handled by the Texas Rangers. Once the investigation is complete, the case will be presented to a grand jury, Siegert said.

470 DId you know May 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

That Fox news does not allow their female hosts to wear pants? Mmmmm

471 Elwood May 7, 2014 at 10:38 PM

@ Dennis #352

Interestingly, the Community College District sold 40 year bonds to pay for solar panels which have a life expectancy of 20-25 years.

472 furian May 7, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Boom!

Shadowblade throws down the dynamite!

Watch wwingies’ heads explode.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

473 et-al May 7, 2014 at 11:30 PM

For crying out loud shaadowblade, you really are THAT stupid. Do yourself a favor and (re)read my original comment on the subject.

474 shadowblade May 7, 2014 at 11:45 PM

et-al #383

“COMMON CORE ASSIGNMENT – The Common Core state standards, which have been adopted by most states and the District of Columbia, emphasize critical thinking in students, and this madness is what they came up with?

The Rialto school district in California is under fire over a stunning eighth-grade assignment that asked students to write an argumentative essay about the Holocaust and “whether or not you believe this was an actual event in history, or merely a political scheme created to influence public emotion and gain wealth.”
The thoroughly debunked idea that the Holocaust was nothing more than a “hoax” created by the Jews has long been alleged by anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists. The San Bernardino Sun first reported on the 18-page assignment that gives students three sources to use to write their essays. One of the sources reportedly alleges the gassings in concentration camps were a “hoax” and there is no evidence Jews actually died in gas chambers.

That’s your Common Core in action folks. Protect your children from this insanity.”

Again…

“That’s your Common Core in action folks.”

Except Common Core hasn’t been implemented yet in California, where this assignment takes place.

475 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 12:01 AM

@ShallowBrain/Furian/PhanDumbAndDumber

(why reference all your names, instead of just using Whack-A-Mole or hive-brain?)

you post and correct yourself “in 11 minutes” and figure that’s ok, but I posted numbers and – when it was pointed out they were bogus – immediately posted not only the “corrected” numbers (via ShallowBrain’s snopes.com reference, but the original source -FAS.ORG – as well. Also noted that snopes also made a mistake.

and guess what? here they are again:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf

Year Total Snopes Email

Carter
1980 2,392 same same
Reagan
1981 2,380 same same
1982 2,319 same same
1983 2,465 same same
1984 1,999 same same
1985 2,252 same same
1986 1,984 same same
1987 1,983 same same
1988 1,819 same same

Bush 1
1989 1,636 same same
1990 1,507 same 1508
1991 1,787 same same
1992 1,293 same same

Clinton
1993 1,213 same same
1994 1,075 same same
1995 1,040 same 2,465
1996 974 same 2,318

1997 817 same same
1998 827 same 2,252
1999 796 same 1,984
2000 758 same 1,983

Bush 2
2001 891 same 890
2002 999 same 1,007
2003 1,410 1228 same
2004 1,873 1874 same

2005 1,941 1942 919
2006 1,882 1858 920
2007 1,953 same 899
2008 1,441 same same

Claim: US Active military deaths were higher during
the administration of Clinton than Bush.
Status: false

45302 29 years
1562.1379 avg

and gee golly, but there are no numbers available for Obama at all.
why is that? Is the “transparent” administration hiding the numbers?

go ahead, hive-mind, show us the OBAMA numbers … or STFU.

476 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 12:04 AM

(the 3rd number is the count of “hostile+terrorist” in FAS)

477 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 12:11 AM

me: “C’mon, ShallowBrain, show us the numbers of how many have died under Obama’s inept leadership.”

ShallowBrain/furian/PhanDumbAndDumber:

“Case in point… Your still trying to relive your HS glory days. The rest of us moved on into adulthood.”

as furian would say, that’s a hoot. The number killed on Obama’s watch is happening now, and you haven’t moved on to adulthood.

once again: put up or shut up.

what are the numbers for the Obama years?

478 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

@JWB dimwit

“For how long have you been yapping here that the German Nazis were Marxists”

here’s a clue, moron: I said that the Fascists were Socialists, and so were the Communists. So were Pol Pot and Mao. So are the New Left “Frankfurt School” group.

It was your buddies, PhanDumbAndDumber/furian/ShallowBrain that claim they weren’t.

So what was your point, exactly? Do you claim that the National Socialists (NAZIS) were NOT Socialist?

479 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 2:04 AM

Dennis…

Twice you tried to pass off the data collected from an email as factual. You posted there were 14000 deaths under Clinton. A reasonably intelligent person would have thought:

“There weren’t any major conflicts under Clinton, while Bush was fighting wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. There shouldn’t be more military deaths under Clinton. I should verify this.”

Instead of verifying the information, you cut and pasted it here. So, either you were too stupid to verify the data, or you new the data was false and wanted to mislead people. Honest mistake? Not likely. Why not? The data came from an EMAIL!! You should have assumed the data was unreliable.

Google: military deaths under Clinton Bush

What pops up? Factcheck, Snopes, etc.

So you want to compare military deaths in Afghanistan? Why shift away from military deaths? Why aren’t you including ALL military deaths? Something to hide?

As if this wasn’t enough, now you are trying to pass off 1934 (not 1939) as the hottest year of the 20th Century. This has been pointed out in the past. The hottest year in the US in the 20th Century was 1934. The hottest year in the 20th Century GLOBALLY was 1998. Like I said…science disagrees with you.

480 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 3:10 AM

from Wikipedia:

In the first 6 years of the war (Oct 2001-Oct 2007), 575 American soldiers died and fewer than 3,000 were wounded.

During the early years, these numbers were updated daily by most of the American news media outlets.

During the next six years, the number of soldiers killed more than doubled, while the number of wounded grew by more than 15,000 additional soldiers although the daily updates were no longer reported.

here’s a bit of help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coalition_military_casualties_in_afghanistan_by_month.svg

481 Anonymous May 8, 2014 at 7:11 AM

“Helps true the pen” I like this phrase. And while it’s true that congress can’t take away 5th amendment rights, the contention is she gave them up when she did her big non-mea culpa. We’ll see.

482 Anon Redux May 8, 2014 at 7:41 AM

Paul Caron, a Tax Law Professor at Pepperdine Univ has been tracking the IRS Scandal for months. He has been posting newsworthy links daily. The Democrats have been trying to bury this story, stonewall Congress, and distort the truth.

The number of items posted in the news is growing. Here are the links he collected this morning:

Tthe IRS Scandal Day 364
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2014/05/the-irs-scandal-7.html

483 mtzman May 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM

@et al #459, you wrote: “I’m a bit jaded when the federal govt takes over states obligations. There’s no one size fits all.” You’re right, there is no one size fits all but you’re incorrect that the federal government took over state obligations.

Common core was initiated not by the federal government but by a bipartisan group of state governors and superintendents who were encouraged to do so by American business leaders concerned that students were not keeping up with the needs of their industries. The federal government under both the Bush and Obama administrations has supported the concept but have never mandated its adoption. In fact, several states have never adopted the standards.

What common core does is raise the bar and level the playing field so that all students meet certain minimum levels of competency. States are free to tweak the process to prevent the one size fits all model you are talking about.

Again, there’s nothing sinister about common core and many of those opposing it have hidden agendas in play …

484 JWB May 8, 2014 at 8:07 AM

Oh Dennis once again you show your ignorance…….

I know the right wing propaganda loves to point to the words “social” or ‘socialist” and thus to claim the Nazis must have been “socialist”.

No the Nazis were not Socialists. The Nazs ideology was predominantly nationalist, racist and populist.

And the Nazis were not “socialist” just the same as for example the CSU the Christian Social Union in Bavaria today is not “socialist” either

Christian Social Union (CSU), German Christlich-Soziale Union , conservative German political party that was founded in Bavaria, Germany, in 1946 by various Roman Catholic and Protestant groups and is committed to free enterprise, federalism, and a united Europe operating under Christian principles.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/115199/Christian-Social-Union-CSU

485 Laughs @ Tools May 8, 2014 at 8:16 AM

It’s not worth telling shadowblade @ 437 that his fixation with Regan’s % debit increase is the mark of a fool – the “law of proportions” informs us that Reagan’s ~$2 trillion doubling of the debt is inmaterial next to Obama’s forecast ~$10 trillion doubling of the debt. Absurdio ad reductum: tripling a $1 debt to $3 doesn’t make your debt growth record worse than Obama’s doubling. Pardon my Latin, it’s been a while.

By way of comparison, Obam’s first budget defecit was virtually the same as Regan’s eight deficits – combined (relevance: the defecit is the primary annual feeder of the debt).

Or we could say that debt service of Reagan’s debt increase is ~$40 billion/year. Debt service on Obama’s first deficit is ~$38 billion/year, on his forecast debt increase it will be ~$400 billion, 10x Reagan’s, each and every year.

Comparable? Hardly.

Also relevant is what we got for for all of that borrowing. Reagan built up our military into the collossus it is today, collapsing the Soviet Union and peacefully ending the decades long Cold War. The “peace dividend” alone has paid for Reagan’s debt increase.

What have we gotten for the $7 trillion that Obama has over-spent? Primarily political patronage that helps Obama and the Democrat party, but, at best, doesn’t help the country as a whole and has probably actually hurt it.

Will shadowblade, phantom, etc. understand this? Given their demonstrated ignorance of both basic math and economics, I’d say no.

But one facet of their ignorance is not understanding that they don’t understand something, so I’m sure that we’ll be entertained with their cockeyed analysis, which will primarily be based on a mis-reading of this post. And that’s why I laugh at tools.

486 Reagan = Best President in History..................Obama = Worst President in History May 8, 2014 at 8:56 AM

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487 Pegasus May 8, 2014 at 9:16 AM

Congressman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) turned the tables on the media and asked them questions about Benghazi. The silence was deafening.
Best video clip I’ve seen in months, it’s only 3 minutes.
The Media should be embarrassed by Congressman Trey Gowdy’s questions.
The burden falls on the media who have not done anything to investigate this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5FwBnCU6WU

488 Lee Tejous May 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Regan won the cold war without it ever escalating into a real shooting war with the Soviet Union. No thousands or millions of lives lost. What was that worth?

489 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Don’t tell Conservatives, but by their reasoning, the economy should have collapsed by the 90s. Why? Massive government spending. Reagan spent more than all of his predecessors combined. Instead, Conservatives fondly remember Reagan as a great Conservative.

One more thing…

Don’t take math lessons from someone who can’t do 7th grade math, and doesn’t understand the “Law of Proportions.”

490 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Dennis #484

Why don’t you compare the total number of military deaths, instead of focusing on Afghanistan?

491 Obama Sucks! May 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Obama is Bankrupting America and defunding the Military.

His weakness will cause World War 3.

Obama is the Worst thing that ever happened to America.

492 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Pegasus #491

One would have thought after 9/11, bin Laden would have been a top priority. How long did it take Bush to capture/kill him?

Now, they criticize Obama’s handling of Benghazi?

493 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/world/africa/libyan-militia-selling-oil-defying-the-government.html?_r=0

“CAIRO — A militia group that has blockaded Libya’s main oil ports for more than six months began on Saturday to sell the oil for its own accounts as the weak transitional government appeared powerless to stop it.

The first unauthorized export of the oil — the lifeblood of Libya’s government and economy — may be the most ominous indication yet that the nation is at risk of coming apart at the seams.

Until now, officials of the central government had played down the impact of the blockades by arguing that the militia was not stealing or wasting the oil, only holding it back for sale by the government at a later date.

The militia leader who closed the ports, Ibrahim Jathran, a charismatic 33-year-old with close ties to Eastern Libyan tribes, has maintained that he was closing the ports not for personal profit, but to press the central government to crack down on oil-sector corruption and provide more resources to the long-neglected east.

In the chaos that has followed the overthrow of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi three years ago, control of the country’s oil revenue was always presumed to be the greatest leverage in the hands of the fledgling government in Tripoli. Its leaders hoped to trade shares of oil revenue for the loyalty of fractious tribes and regions, and the shared patrimony of Libya’s oil wealth could bind the country together.

…”

Libya’s government doesn’t have complete control over the country, making it difficult to arrest suspects involved in the Benghazi attack. The US could intervene…

Is this what people want?

494 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM

April 30, 2014 Source: The White House.

“Earlier today, Senate Republicans blocked a vote to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10. That means millions of Americans will continue to live under the poverty line and struggle to make ends meet.

“Raising the wage to $10.10 would increase earnings for 28 million hardworking Americans, and boost the bottom lines of businesses across the country. And more than 20 states already have minimum wage rates that are higher than the federal minimum wage.”

So?

(Reuters) – President Barack Obama blasted Senate Republicans on Wednesday just hours after they blocked one of his top legislative priorities, a bid to increase the federal minimum wage for the first time since 2009.

“They (Republicans) prevented a raise for 28 million hard-working Americans. They said no to helping millions work their way out of poverty,” Obama said at the White House, backed up by low-wage workers.
On a nearly party-line vote of 54-42, Obama’s Democrats fell short of the needed 60 Senate votes to end a procedural roadblock against a White House-backed bill.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/30/us-usa-senate-minimumwage-idUSBREA3T0PT20140430

495 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM

#472 Did you know

FOX on the air personalities I like,

1. Shannon Bream
2. Gretchen Carlson
3. Cheryl Casone
4. Heather Childers
5. Janice Dean (weather)
6. Megyn Kelly
7. Elizabeth Prann
8. Martha MacCallam

They all have the same designer look…I think they are all sisters…the same basic person…great.

When the CNBC Financials are over I go to FOX and turn off the sound.

I only watch FOX for the sports articles…and the Vargas cartoon’s

496 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM

#482 Dennis.

A simpler way to figure this out…how many state owned companies, (percent).

Communist governments own all assets (100%)
Socialist own certain nationwide organizations only (20%)
Fascists own no business organizations. (0.0)%)

Or: Read More at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

497 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM

#489 Laughs @ Tools
What have we gotten for the $7 trillion that Obama has over-spent?

We saved the world from a massive deadly depression that would have provoked war and sustained famine for tens of millions.

You forgot the international financial crises again…

498 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM

#491 Pegasus

We all know all the answers to these questions since the press covered them…

Trey Gowdy is a simple middle school debate team leader in South Carolina.

Many innocent people are doing time in the Carolinas because of people like him.

When the state faced a budget crunch that forced many employees to go on unpaid furloughs, Gowdy funneled part of his campaign account into the solicitor’s budget so his staff could keep working.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trey_Gowdy#Legal_career

499 Obamacaust May 8, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Love watching Laughs@Tools mop the floor with Shadowblade.

Note to Shadowblade – the WORLD fondly remembers Reagan as a great Conservative. He freed hundreds of millions. There are statues of him all over Central Europe.

Who will put up statues of Obama? The Teamsters? Putin? Obama himself?

500 JWB May 8, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Laughed at tool … now have you already forgotten your own advise again?

#334 ” we will really need the Net Present Value of the project, won’t we?”

And now just a few days later you forgot about NPVs?

But why bother because …….

“You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due. ”

Dick Cheney to Paul O’Neill, Treasury Secretary

501 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Obamacaust

Laughs @ Tools doesn’t even know what the Law of Proportions states.

Perhaps you could help him out?

502 Democrats Suck! May 8, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Democrats caused the crash that demanded a $7 trillion dollar so called fix.

The Dems crashed the Economy then tried to spend their way out of it.

What a bunch of dumb a$$es.

503 George Washington May 8, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Obama is destroying our economy, killing our jobs, lowering our standard of living while exploding our national debt, diminishing our military, and destroying our health care. Under our weak, inept, incompetent commie in chief, America is in a steep decline and if we don’t have leadership soon we will be like the Malaysian airliner–lost or gone as a world leader..

504 Obamacaust May 8, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Shadowblade @ 505,
Laughs @ Tools gave a very detailed take down of your post and the only reply that you can muster is some snark about 7th grade math?

I don’t think that he needs any help. You however …

505 Anon Redux May 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Two Links

——ONE——

ObamaCare’s Cascade of New Taxes Pounds U.S. Taxpayers
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/050514-699645-obamacare-taxes-are-a-cascade-of-new-costs-on-american-taxpayers.htm?p=full

Many more taxes and fees are needed to finance ObamaCare’s massive subsidies for health insurance and Medicaid expansion.

Most of these taxes will hit middle-income Americans either directly or through higher prices for health insurance and medical care to finance ObamaCare.

The more people pay and the more visible these taxes become, the more they will demand repeal of a law that is causing far more pain than gain for our health sector and economy.

——TWO——

IRS prepares to impose ObamaCare fines
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/10/irs-obamacare-enforce/

Now that the ObamaCare enrollment deadline has past, the IRS is preparing for the next step—penalties for those who: choose not to, or cannot afford to, buy insurance through ObamaCare.

The IRS is already under fire for Lois Lerner’s political targeting outrage. Talk of harsh fines for the millions who still do not have insurance is a sure way to make new friends during an election year.

506 Say WHAT ? May 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM

This is good, in a Washington Post article, an East coast democrat complains that a black republican member of the United States Senate doesn’t vote “HIS COLOR”. What’s next, hood and robe?

507 da Park, da Park May 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM
508 Laughs @ Tools May 8, 2014 at 4:21 PM

As I prophesied (actually pattern recognition, not clairvoyance), shadowblade (post #493) and Phantom (#501) would rush in to confirm their economic ignorance and entertain us with their

509 He Promised, She Says May 8, 2014 at 4:21 PM

So who is LYING or is it those smoke n mirrors?
“Federal Reserve Chairman Janet Yellen, referencing the Congressional Budget Office’s long-term budget projections, told the Joint Economic Committee of Congress today that under current policies the federal government’s deficits “will rise to unsustainable levels.” ”

“In the 10-year budget projections it released in April, the CBO estimated that the federal government will run $7.618 trillion in deficits from 2015 through 2024. At the same time, the CBO projected that the federal government’s debt held by the public would rise from $11.983 trillion at the end of fiscal 2013 to $20.947 trillion by the end of 2024.”
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/fed-chair-deficits-will-rise-unsustainable-levels

510 Laughs @ Tools May 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM

cockeyed analysis.

Well done kids!

511 Laughs @ Tools May 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM

JWB @ 504, still no NPV analysis from the self proclaimed financial savant? I even provided you with some of the variables to make the job easy for you.

Why am I not surprised?

Come on junior, put up or shut up.

512 Pegasus May 8, 2014 at 4:34 PM

@ shadowblade #496 –
Pathetic attempt at deflection, as expected from the likes of you.

You too phantom @ 502 – Two of a kind. Whine, blame the other guy/party. Pathetic.

It’s a dirty shame Obama and his select gang of criminal liars have the govt locked up. His day will come. That criminal Holder too.

Republicans are horrible but democrats are worse.

513 Pegasus May 8, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Dirty-Harry Reid, during many of his rants, claimed more than one million jobs WERE LOST as a result of the sequester and blamed the Republicans, as expected. Not “would be lost” but “were Lost”.

The final count is now complete; The total number of federal jobs lost as a result of the sequester: one (1). There were also a few furloughs.

Harry and Nancy, you all must be so proud.

514 Solution for Everything May 8, 2014 at 4:59 PM

That Boko Haram problem, democrats are now saying poverty in Africa is a cause. Wonder if their cure will be to raise the minimum wage in Africa or will they just throw Billions of your taxpayer dollars at it?

515 No Surprise May 8, 2014 at 5:03 PM

74 year old harry reid Blocks Bipartisan Vote on Keystone Pipeline.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2014/05/08/obstruction-reid-blocks-vote-on-keystone-pipeline-n1835546

Guess that super rich democrat campaign contributor railroad owner hasn’t made enough money yet, transporting that oil by rail tank car.

516 Aspirin May 8, 2014 at 5:14 PM

@Democrats Suck!: GW Bush spent over one TRILLION unbudgeted dollars on a useless war he started with lies. Obama voted AGAINST that war. I’d say the needless death of 5,000 Americans is far more important than money, wouldn’t you?

517 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 5:25 PM

$5M solar panel project saves $200,000 per year,

Payback in 16.7 years by my reckoning, and then I found this:

Conservative estimate is payback in 16.67 years. Affirmed by Watchdog.org

“This will save money the over the long-term, and that money can go back to the students, rather than paying utility bills,” Grissom said.

http://watchdog.org/142784/santa-fe-solar/

518 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Same old stupid Laughs @ Tools.

The self-proclaimed something with the flying insult close…which turns off any response…with rudeness…to prevent an authoritative and perfect response.

Excerpt from: YOUNG DEMOCRAT TRAINING LESSON: Trolls

5. They make personal remarks (ad hominem attacks) to try to provoke a well-justified cyber response that distracts everyone, if you return their hostile attitude. You should disparage the more cowardly items, sparingly. It distracts the reader audience with the angry conflict.

6. Terminating a further response with insults is the primary the objective with their disrespectful rhetoric. The insulter’s purpose is to dissuade the opponent from responding in order to avoid looking like a participant in childish bickering.

519 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 5:26 PM
520 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 5:36 PM

@JWB
I guess you disagree with averyone else n the world, including Hitler himself, in your attempt to re-classify Nazis – the National SOCIALIST Party – as something other than – gasp – socialist.

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions. — Adolf Hitler, May 1, 1927

“No the Nazis were not Socialists. The Nazs ideology was predominantly nationalist, racist and populist.”

Every socialist totalitarian government is predominantly nationalist, racist, and populist.

As I said earlier … some people here are still trying to claim that the KKK was not founded by the Democrats, and that the Nazis were not Socialist, and the Holocaust never happened, and that capitalism must be destroyed to save the earth from overheating.

521 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 5:40 PM

#508

I recommend you stay backed up…the real smart liberals are back and the penalty for stupidity is public humiliation. Look around, read the comments, and realize you guys are easy and depend on a nasty attitude to form the “fog” of war.

Notice I’m just a low information analyst, and may not respond except to the most stupid and easily rebuked (contradicted) remarks.

522 JWB May 8, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Hey laughed at tool #489

In case you wonder why people laugh at you? You look foolish by using big words and misquoting them.

The proper phrase is” reductio ad absurdum ” and not “absurdio ad reductum”

523 Laughs @ Tools May 8, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Ah yes, same old Phantom – ignorant of the facts so resorts to name calling.

Please Phantom, don’t be shy – I welcome your “authoritative and perfect response.” Fascinate us with your analytical accumen!

Or was that comment just you attempting to save face? Yep, that’s it.

524 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 5:52 PM

“It’s not worth telling shadowblade @ 437 that his fixation with Regan’s % debit increase is the mark of a fool – the “law of proportions” informs us that Reagan’s ~$2 trillion doubling of the debt is inmaterial next to Obama’s forecast ~$10 trillion doubling of the debt. ”

2T Reagan deficit/debt 1980 dollars would be worth 6T today NPV

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001519.html

525 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 5:53 PM

@PhanDumbAndDumber #600

“Communist governments own all assets (100%)
Socialist own certain nationwide organizations only (20%)
Fascists own no business organizations. (0.0)%)”

Gee, you finally figured out the difference between Communist dictatorships and Fascist dictatorships. The only difference.

Under Fascism, the State CONTROLS private business, making all the business decisions for that company, It leverages and subsidizes one business and the market prices so that competition collapses, leaving their business as a monopoly. They get the lions share of profits, and also tax the business, but because they set the market price and wages, the monopoly succeeds. In Germany and Cambodia, slave labor was provided, the worker didn’t even cost the business for food (the laborers just worked until they starved, and were replaced).

In fact, it is this “partnership” of the State with favored business that made George Soros wealthy.

But to the man on the street – the people living under the thumb of the regime – there is no discernable difference whatsoever between the police states of Communists or Fascists. Dictatorships are dictatorships, no matter how the politicians war of words tries to find differences, or “ours is good, theirs is evil”.

526 @Aspirin May 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM

An that little foray into Libya by President “It’s not my fault” resulted in terrorists in Northern Africa being the best armed terrorists in the world. They are in fact selling off their surplus weapons for hard currency.

May have missed these,
‘ More Libyan fallout: Intel finds advanced U.S. weapons were ‘stolen, sold abroad’
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/10/17/more-libyan-fallout-intel-finds-advanced-u-s-weapons-were-stolen-sold-abroad/

‘ Missing Libya Missiles Find Their Way to Gaza Border ‘
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/missing-libya-missiles-find-gaza-border/story?id=14729363#.UJHosWd149g

‘ How to Control Libya Missiles? Buy Them Up ‘
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/23/world/africa/us-seeks-program-to-buy-up-missiles-loose-in-libya.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

‘ American Killed in Libya Was on Intel Mission to Track Weapons ‘
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/glen-doherty-navy-seal-killed-libya-intel-mission/story?id=17229037#.UFlR7K5149h

‘ U.S. May Buy Looted Libyan Missiles Sold in Mali’s Black Market ‘
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-25/u-s-may-snap-up-qaddafi-s-missiles-in-mali-black-market-to-soak-up-supply.html

Takes 40 seconds to set up, acquire the target and fire a shoulder fired surface to air missile.
Think they’re not a problem?
‘ Senator calls for airline protection from shoulder-fired missiles ‘
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/senator-calls-for-airline-protection-from-shoulder-fired-missiles/

Libya was a classic half baked screw up.

527 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 6:21 PM

@Aspirin #520

1 “GW Bush spent over one TRILLION unbudgeted dollars on a useless war he started with lies.
2 I’d say the needless death of 5,000 Americans is far more important than money, wouldn’t you?
3 Obama voted AGAINST that war.”

—————————

“Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996
Obama was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998,
and was reelected again in 2002″

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

“The independent website iCasualties has
put the total number of U.S. deaths at 2,161

This number is by six higher than the Department
of Defense’s tally which is 2,155, when including
the intelligence operatives.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan#United_States

“Operation Enduring Freedom” (OEF) is the official
name used by the U.S. government for the
War in Afghanistan, together with a number of smaller
military actions, under the umbrella of the Global
“War on Terror” (GWOT).”

“The United States … launched Operation Enduring Freedom
on 7 October 2001 with the United Kingdom.”

“Since 2001, the cumulative expenditure by the
U.S. government on Operation Enduring Freedom has
exceeded $150 billion.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom

Hey Aspirin, 1-2-3 strikes you’re out.

528 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 6:27 PM

Dennis #524

So Hitler was a Christian. Good to know.

529 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Despite doomsday warnings from the White House and lawmakers on both sides that hundreds of thousands would lose their jobs as a result of the sequester, it turns out the budget cuts have only led to

one job being lost among 23 federal agencies.

Now Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., is demanding answers as to why the Obama administration repeatedly warned taxpayers that the $85.3 billion in spending cuts, which went into effect in March 2013, would threaten hundreds of thousands of jobs. The findings were revealed in a government watchdog report.

The March report by the Government Accountability Office describes how 23 agencies and departments — which appear to span most of the federal government — complied with the cuts. Only one, the Department of Justice, decided to lay off a single employee in fiscal year 2013.

A spokeswoman for the GAO told FoxNews.com the DOJ reported that the laid-off worker was from the the U.S. Parole Commission, but they had no other information about the employee. Virtually every other arm of the government turned to tactics like cutting overtime, reducing employee travel and putting workers on furlough to avoid actual firings.

In a memo released before the sequester cuts went into effect, the White House claimed they “threaten hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs.” In a speech at the White House that February, President Obama repeated those claims.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid upped the doomsday rhetoric in July, according to the Washington Post, saying on the Senate floor over a million jobs were already lost.

“We have learned that the sequestration already has cut 1.6 million jobs. So we need job creation. We need to help the middle class by creating jobs,” he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/07/despite-doomsday-predictions-sequester-cuts-only-led-to-1-layoff-in-2013/?intcmp=latestnews

530 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 6:29 PM

“As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.” – Hitler

Hitler said it, so it must be true.

It’s funny how Conservatives call Obama a liar, but are more than willing to accept Hitler at his word.

531 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Pegasus…

Not deflecting. Pointing out the facts. Libya doesn’t have a stable government. The US has been conducting an investigation, but it would be difficult to apprehend the suspects due to the instability in the region.

What would you suggest we do? It would most likely require military force for the US to apprehend the suspects. Do you think it would be wise for the US military to enter another oil rich ME country?

Oh…I forgot. You guys don’t come up with solutions. You only criticize.

532 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 6:41 PM

@Aspirin #520

“GW Bush spent over one TRILLION unbudgeted dollars on a useless war he started with lies.”

1 note that Aspirin/PhanDumbAndDumber/furian/ShallowBrain all insist that the wars were “unfunded”? How many wars did the US fund prior to the war? Didn’t Congress authorize funding for these wars? I guess the repeated use of “unfunded” is just a lie.

2 a war Bush started with lies? Tell us, Aspirin, which of the 5 justifications listed below are lies? Where’s your proof?

————————

“In 1996, Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden moved to Afghanistan upon the invitation of the Northern Alliance leader Abdur Rabb ur Rasool Sayyaf. When the Taliban came to power, bin Laden was able to forge an alliance between the Taliban and his al-Qaeda organization. It is understood that al-Qaeda-trained fighters known as the 055 Brigade were integrated with the Taliban army between 1997 and 2001. It has been suggested that the Taliban and bin Laden had very close connections.

On 20 September 2001, the U.S. stated that Osama bin Laden was behind the 11 September attacks in 2001.

The U.S. made a five point ultimatum to the Taliban:
1.Deliver to the U.S. all of the leaders of al-Qaeda
2.Release all imprisoned foreign nationals
3.Close immediately every terrorist training camp
4.Hand over every terrorist and their supporters to appropriate authorities
5.Give the United States full access to terrorist training camps for inspection

On 21 September 2001, the Taliban rejected this ultimatum, stating there was no evidence in their possession linking bin Laden to the 11 September attacks.

On 22 September 2001 the United Arab Emirates and later Saudi Arabia withdrew their recognition of the Taliban as the legal government of Afghanistan, leaving neighboring Pakistan as the only remaining country with diplomatic ties.

On 4 October 2001, it is believed that the Taliban covertly offered to turn bin Laden over to Pakistan for trial in an international tribunal that operated according to Islamic shar’ia law.

On 7 October 2001, the Taliban proposed to try bin Laden in Afghanistan in an Islamic court. This proposition was immediately rejected by the U.S. Shortly afterward, the same day, United States and British forces initiated military action against the Taliban, bombing Taliban forces and al-Qaeda terrorist training camps.

On 14 October 2001, the Taliban proposed to hand bin Laden over to a third country for trial, but only if they were given evidence of bin Laden’s involvement in the events of 11 September 2001. The U.S. rejected this proposal and ensued with military operations.

The UN Security Council, on 16 January 2002, unanimously established an arms embargo and the freezing of identifiable assets belonging to bin Laden, al-Qaeda, and the remaining Taliban.

On Sunday 7 October 2001, American and British forces began an aerial bombing campaign targeting Taliban forces and al-Qaeda.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom

533 Pegasus May 8, 2014 at 6:47 PM

shadowblade –
NOT DEFLECTING? Really?
My post had to do with how Congressman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) turned the tables on the media and asked them questions about Benghazi. Had you viewed the clip you’d know how dumbfounded the media was.

You throw out Bush and 9/11 and that’s not deflecting?

Oh I forgot, you gals get to change the game when it gets uncomfortable for you. Typical.

Get lost, chump.

534 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 6:49 PM

@ShallowBrain
“It’s funny how Conservatives call Obama a liar, but are more than willing to accept Hitler at his word.”

So tell us how many people in the world … of any government … disagreed with Hitler’s announcement? Stalin? He and Hitler were bed buddies until Hitler invaded Russia.

Oh wait. There isn’t anybody out there that YOU will believe that says Nazis were Socialists … therefore it is untrue. Because no-one YOU BELIEVE says so.

Great scientific and logical mind there. Must be the product of public schools, and that “critical thinking”

Question: bin Laden admitted responsibility for 9/11. Does that mean it is untrue?

535 ? May 8, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Anybody kept track of how many Illinois politicians have gone to Prison?

536 . May 8, 2014 at 6:57 PM

“Do you think it would be wise for the US military to enter another oil rich ME country?”
What could possibly go wrong?
President Never My Fault did it,

537 Ambassadonor May 8, 2014 at 7:04 PM

International Diplomacy, ……. chicago style
‘ These are the ‘essential skills’ needed to be an Obama ambassadonor ‘
http://news.yahoo.com/controversial-obama-donors-have–essential-skills–to-be-ambassadors–state-department-insists-213313641.html

538 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Fascists own no business organizations. (0.0)%)”

Another difference is the right wing alignment of the Fascists and Nazis.

539 Summer of ... What Did He Say ? May 8, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Labor force participation rate for 25-29 year olds hits all-time low
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/labor-force-participation-rate-25-29-year-olds-hits-record-low

540 . May 8, 2014 at 7:19 PM

“Obama voted AGAINST that war.” …….. Before he sent more troops there.

‘ 60% of U.S. Military Deaths in Afghanistan Have Occurred Since Obama Was Inaugurated in 2009 ‘
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/60-us-military-deaths-afghanistan-have-occurred-obama-was-inaugurated-2009

541 JWB May 8, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Oh poor old man Dennis #525

“I guess you disagree with everyone else n the world”

The only problem with your statement is, that you must be meaning your small world of right wing propaganda, because it is certainly not true for the “real world”.

I know one of your favorite go-to cite is Wikipedia, so let’s see what Wikipedia says:

“According to many scholars, fascism — especially once in power — has historically attacked communism, conservatism and parliamentary liberalism, attracting support primarily from the far right.”

“Fascism is commonly described as far right” although some writers have found placing fascism on a conventional left-right political spectrum difficult.”

“Fascism is considered by certain scholars to be right-wing because of its social conservatism and authoritarian means of opposing egalitarianism. Roderick Stackelberg places fascism—including Nazism, which he says is “a radical variant of fascism”—on the right, explaining that “the more a person deems absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. The more a person considers inequality to be unavoidable or even desirable, the further to the right he or she will be.”

542 @534 May 8, 2014 at 7:40 PM

As to your last sentence, … there is just so much proof available of LYING.
Like “if you like your Doctor ….” “if you like your health insurance ….”

Perhaps it’s like happened in Libya, ya know “just some sloppiness”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgmDxV-o_24
Bet they won’t be able to solve it until Jan. 2017, wouldn’t that be convenient.

543 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 8:18 PM

@Aspirin #520

1. “GW Bush spent over one TRILLION unbudgeted dollars on a useless war he started with lies.

In March 2013, the total cost of the Iraq War was estimated to have been $1.7 trillion by the Watson Institute of International Studies at Brown University.[361] Critics have argued that the total cost of the war to the US economy is estimated to be from $3 trillion[362] to $6 trillion,[363] including interest rates, by 2053.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War#Financial_cost

2. I’d say the needless death of 5,000 Americans is far more important than money, wouldn’t you?

[6.800 US Dead] 2313 Afghanistan, 4487 Iraq

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War#Financial_cost

3. Obama voted AGAINST that war.”

“Obama was not in the U.S. Senate at that time, though he did give a speech opposing the war while an Illinois state senator.”

He did shut it down as fast as he could…as President.

Two out of three ain’t bad…good work Aspirin…

544 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 8:22 PM

“As I said earlier … some people here are still trying to claim that the KKK was not founded by the Democrats, and that the Nazis were not Socialist, and the Holocaust never happened, and that capitalism must be destroyed to save the earth from overheating.”

6. “Often, they make wild and stupid claims and then expect others to prove them wrong. They believe this makes an intelligent argument, when in fact; all they are doing is making wild and stupid claims.” ~ shadowblade.

545 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 8:24 PM

I’m just handling the easy, stupid, ones.

546 Obama's Latest Plan on Economy May 8, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Did you hear Obama’s latest plan?

Today he ordered Treasury Secretary to take what little money we have left and buy lottery tickets.

547 Does your Obama 2012 bumper Sticker make you feel Stupid yet? May 8, 2014 at 8:49 PM

548 furian May 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Poor wingies, just a whole lot of nothing.

They’re all just riked up because they spanked by the establishment in their primarys.

Hahahahahaha

549 JWB May 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Old man Dennis

A propoganda speech from 1927 when oportunistic Hitler tried to get support from the left to rise to power is the best you can come up with?

Why am I not surprised that you would fall for right wing propoganda?

And by the way the old Soviet Union was organized in Soviet Republics so will you tell us now that Republicans are Socialists too, you fool?

550 Did you hear wingies plans for anything? May 8, 2014 at 8:53 PM

No?

Me neither.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

551 @548 May 8, 2014 at 8:55 PM

510 ….. reel it in and it’s a small trash fish.
just throw it high up on the bank and leave it to rot.

552 furian May 8, 2014 at 8:56 PM

My “college Republicans for Dole/Kemp” bumper sticker makes me miss the reasonable Republican part I once belonged to.

553 MeanOldDog May 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

@526 JWB It’s actually uppus ur
rectum

554 A HOOT May 8, 2014 at 9:23 PM

furian -
Does your daddy phantom let you have the top or do you like the bottom?

555 . May 8, 2014 at 9:23 PM
556 A HOOT May 8, 2014 at 9:23 PM

How ’bout the reach around, do you ever get that?

557 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Dennis #538

Fascism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

“Position in the political spectrum

Fascism is commonly described as far right”[33][34] although some writers have found placing fascism on a conventional left-right political spectrum difficult.”

Hmmmmm…Fascism is commonly described as far right.

Fascism: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/fascism

“An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.”

Hmmmmm…authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government.

By all means…continue to take the word of a paranoid schizophrenic mass murderer. Especially one who was seeking power.

558 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 9:31 PM

Pegasus #537

Go back and read my posts on the topic. #496 & 497.

Like I said…you guys are long on criticism and short on solutions.

559 Obama’s foreign policy disasters have only begun May 8, 2014 at 9:35 PM

The Obama administration’s foreign policy is a disaster. The Post headline reads: “U.S., Japan fail to reach trade deal on Obama trip.” The New York Times blasts: “Barack Obama suffers setbacks in Japan and the Mideast.” The report needles: “On Thursday, as Russia staged military exercises on the border with Ukraine, [Secretary of State John] Kerry denounced broken promises from the Kremlin but took no specific action.”

At Time magazine, Michael Crowley takes a sledgehammer to the Obama team: “Obama’s Foreign Policy Failures Are Proving His Critics Right.” He explains:

The cynics must be feeling vindicated. They snickered at John Kerry’s bid for Middle East peace, calling it doomed to fail. They seem to have been right. They have also chortled at Kerry’s long meetings with Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, calling diplomacy with Vladimir Putin a fool’s errand. The impending collapse of the Ukraine deal struck in Geneva last night would seem to affirm that view.

The cynics also doubting Obama’s Asia pivot, seeing it as a futile attempt to dodge harder problems elsewhere. Obama’s distracted trip this week is at least a point in their favor.

And they argue that Obama’s aversion to getting involved in Syria is not only a humanitarian tragedy but will cause deeper problems for the U.S. in the long run. A new chemical weapons crisis would be a good example.

On this, the president can’t blame the Republicans. In the first term he set a pattern — soaring rhetoric, ending hard power commitments coupled with big defense cuts, refusal to take on totalitarian governments on human rights, solicitous behavior toward Iran and Russia. It didn’t work — anywhere.

We can draw a number of conclusions from all of this. First, the disasters may be popping up now, but it is hard to argue that the first term did not set in motion (by inaction in Syria, a faulty arms deal with Russia, contentious relations with Israel) the failures we see now playing out. For that, the president and his first-term national security team are directly responsible. Second, the left- and right-wing dream that the United States could recede and let others deal with their problems proved once again just plain wrong. Third, the adage that small steps early can obviate the need for big, costly commitments later on has been borne out in Syria. Fourth, the United States needs a president fully engaged in national security who can assess how U.S. actions are interpreted by others. Finally, when things get worse (first Crimea and then Ukraine, a few hundred dead and eventually over 150,000 dead in Syria) they will continue to get worse until we try something new. Passivity is a recipe for chaos, instability and violence. In Europe, for the first time since the Cold War the sovereignty of U.S. allies is at risk.

560 furian May 8, 2014 at 9:41 PM

Oh lookie, lookie @558 and 560.

Prime examples of a hate filled winger!

Gay slurs, very original! Why be such a coward, just use the f*g term and show us all your true wingie colors? Don’t settle for half measures!

I’m sure your winger brethren will be alomg shortly to denounce your hate speech.

Not really, wingers are all cowards, not one will say a word to you.

Shameful.

561 Welfare Queen: "This Is What The Taxpayers Are Paying For" May 8, 2014 at 10:04 PM
562 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 10:19 PM

“Obama’s foreign policy disasters have only begun”?

- The President has been measuring the loyalty of our allies,
just I have taken the measure of the loyalty of many on this site…and found them equally wanting.

We cannot depend on nearly 25% of the “natural born citizens”, ones just like Eric Snowden.

563 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 11:26 PM

@JWB oh look! those cows are brown! This other animal is bbrown and black, so it can’t be a cow too!.

“Roderick Stackelberg places fascism—including Nazism, which he says is “a radical variant of fascism”—on the right:

a radical VARIANT of fascism? What an idiot. There are only 2 Nations in history that were Fascist.

Mussolini fashioned his Socialist Italian government after that of Hitler, whom he admired, and it was Mussolini who coined the term Fascism to describe their “special” variant of SOCIALISM.

And now, Roderick Stackelberg claims that Fascism is something else, and that the Nazis were just a “radical variant” of Fascism? That says that the ONLY OTHER known example of Fascism (Mussolini’s Italy) was NOT a radical variant?

what a bizarre circular loop of twisted logic that is.

Let’s get to the core of it: instead of saying that Nazis were nationalistic, racist, blah blah, AND THUS ARE RIGHT WING, what is reality is that ALL totalitarian/authoritarian governments (dictatorships) are nationalistic, racist, blah blah.

—————-

Here’s a good working definition of Nazi:

Main Entry: national socialism
Function: noun
Usage: often capitalized N&S
Date: 1931
: NAZISM
- national socialist adjective, often capitalized N&S

Main Entry: Na·zism
Pronunciation: ‘nät-”si-z&m, ‘nat-
Variant(s): or Na.zi.ism /-sE-”i-z&m/
Function: noun
Etymology: Nazi + -ism
Date: 1934
: the body of political and economic doctrines held and put into effect by
the National Socialist German Workers’ party in the Third German Reich including the totalitarian principle of government, state control of all industry, predominance of groups assumed to be racially superior, and supremacy of the führer

—————–

Gee, isn’t it funny that the very definition of National Socialism, ie. N&S r Nazisim, is as a variant of SOCIALISM?

564 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 11:31 PM

here’s a good description of Fascism, Communism, and in fact all known dictatorships of the 20th Century:

“A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.”

565 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 11:35 PM

#491 Pegasus

We all know all the answers to these questions since the press covered them…

566 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 11:37 PM

@ShallowBrain #561
“some writers have found placing fascism on a conventional left-right political spectrum difficult”

well, duh. That’s because Fascism has both political and economic aspects, and the attempt to establish that conservative economic policies equate with totalitarian political policies is demonstrably false.

What is easy to establish, however, is that all known dictatorships have “stringent socioeconomic controls”, and the Socialists are horrified that anyone might realize that that describes their philosophy accurately.

567 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 11:41 PM

SO tell us, ShallowBrain, if you believe the statements made by the founders of the ACLU, or if you think they, like Hilter, are lying?

“I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.“

- Roger Baldwin, Founder of the ACLU.

“When that power of the working class is once achieved, as it has been only in the Soviet Union, I am for maintaining it by any means whatever. Dictatorship is the obvious means in a world of enemies at home and abroad. I dislike it in principle as dangerous to its own objects. But the Soviet Union has already created liberties far greater than exist elsewhere in the world.“

- Roger Baldwin, Founder of the ACLU.

“I saw in the Soviet Union many opponents of the regime. I visited a dozen prisons — the political sections among them. I saw considerable of the work of the OGPU. I heard a good many stories of severity, even of brutality, and many of them from the victims. While I sympathized with personal distress I just could not bring myself to get excited over the suppression of opposition …. And further, no champion of a socialist society could fail to see that some suppression was necessary to achieve it. It could not all be done by persuasion. . . .“

- Roger Baldwin, Founder of the ACLU.

“If American champions of civil liberty could all think in terms of economic freedom as the goal of their labors, they too would accept “workers’ democracy” as far superior to what the capitalist world offers to any but a small minority. Yes, and they would accept — regretfully, of course — the necessity of dictatorship while the job of reorganizing society on a socialist basis is being done.“

- Roger Baldwin, Founder of the ACLU.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.”

- Norman Thomas (perennial Socialist Party presidential candidate and one of the founders of the ACLU)

568 Dennis May 8, 2014 at 11:58 PM

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865602704/A-House-select-committee-to-investigate-Benghazi-is-necessary-to-get-answers-to-neglected-questions.html?pg=all

“Rep. James P. McGovern, D-Mass., center, joined by Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., left, and Rep. Louise Slaughter, D-N.Y., the ranking member, questions the motivations of the Republican majority as the House Rules Committee meets to work on the creation of a …select House committee to investigate the events at Benghazi”

wait. Alcee Hastings? Really?

“This man is one of only 13 federal judges in the nation’s history to be impeached and one of only seven to be removed.

“The charge was accepting bribes and, though he was not convicted in a criminal trial, his fellow Democrats in the House impeached him; the Senate, also controlled by Democrats, removed him.

“In other words, he was too big a risk to leave on a federal court, whether the damning circumstantial evidence was enough for a jury or not.”

apparently he’s the most moral and ethical Democrat available, which is why he is questioning the “motivations” of those who want to investigate.

569 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Dennis…

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/Nazi

“The Nazi Party was formed in Munich after World War I. It advocated right-wing authoritarian nationalist government and developed a racist ideology based on anti-Semitism and a belief in the superiority of “Aryan” Germans. Its charismatic leader, Adolf Hitler, who was elected Chancellor in 1933, established a totalitarian dictatorship, rearmed Germany in support of expansionist foreign policies in central Europe, and thus precipitated World War II. The Nazi Party collapsed at the end of the war and was outlawed in Germany”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

“Nazism, or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party and state as well as other related far-right groups. Usually characterised as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and antisemitism, Nazism originally developed from the influences of pan-Germanism, the Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture in post-First World War Germany, which many Germans felt had been left humiliated by the Treaty of Versailles.”

Nazis and Fascists are right-wing groups. You make up stuff to fit your view of the world.

570 Dennis May 9, 2014 at 3:05 AM

@ShadowBlade

whatever. Still trying to defend your Socialist Religion, denying that Fascists and Communists are the driving force behind the ideology, I see.

You can whine, you can point fingers everywhere and try to distract, but the facts and history remain the same.

So do you think the founders of the ACLU were lying when they said they advocated a Communist dictatorship in the US, or do you think their confessions are valid?

571 Anon Redux May 9, 2014 at 6:50 AM
572 A HOOT May 9, 2014 at 7:17 AM

@ 569 yhe phantom -
I read the comments and yes you definitely made a miserable attempt to deflect, same as shadowblade.

Pegasis – 3
phantom – 0
shadowblade – 0

573 Nancy P. May 9, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Don’t we have more important things to do other than uncover a cover up? Unless it’s a Republican cover up, that is.

574 RunDogRun May 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM

@564 furian Better a wingie than
a dingy.

575 Another Fool Comment About Climate Change May 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Editorial: No denying it: Climate change is here – and now

By the Editorial Board

Published: Friday, May. 9, 2014 – 12:11 am

Climate change isn’t news to Californians

Central Valley farmers, as it is, are drilling for groundwater and fallowing bone-dry fields. Snowpack in the Sierra is barely at 18 percent of the average. Reservoirs are half full.

Wildfire season, which used to start this month, has been ongoing since January, when Cal Fire alone responded to more than 400 fires, compared to zero for the January before that. From Foster City to Newport Beach, cities are shoring up against rising sea levels.

Still, the latest National Climate Assessment, released this week, makes for urgent reading. It’s blunt, and its findings have dire implications, both nationally and for California:

Extreme risks to the supply and quality of the state’s water. Worsened drought and plagues of opportunistic insects in agricultural regions. A potential 74 percent increase statewide in wildfire burn areas. Nearly a half-million people at risk from rising sea levels and coastal flooding.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2014/05/08/6390499/editorial-no-denying-it-climate.html#storylink=cpy

576 JWB May 9, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Old man Dennis #567

You simply continue to show that you are making claims where you have absolutely no idea about. It’s clear that any discussion with you is just a waste of time….

“What an idiot. There are only 2 Nations in history that were Fascist.”

Really? How about Japan, Spain, Portugal, Croatia, Rumania, Hungary to just name a few?

Here is your favorite wikipedia link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fascist_movements

577 Pegasus May 9, 2014 at 11:32 AM

If climate change is supposed to lead to warmer winters, why are winters in the USA getting colder? Overall, there has been absolutely no significant trend in average wintertime temperatures since 1980.
Throughout most of the nation, current five-year winter temperatures are already back down to their mid-1980s levels. The cooling isn’t trivial, either. The average wintertime temperature between 1996-2000 was 35.0°F. From 2010-2014, it was only 32.9°F.
If this post-2000 rate of decline continues, the five-year average wintertime temperature in the contiguous United States will return to its 20th-century average by 2017 or 2018. Yes, only a few years away from a return to “normal”.
Perhaps some climate patience, rather than hysteria, is in order?

578 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Pegasus #581

Think Global…

579 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Dennis #574

Go explain to Oxford Dictionary the correct definition of Fascism and Nazi.

You should have learned something from confusing the US with Global, and using false data from a bogus email. Instead, you keep rambling about things you know nothing about.

580 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM

A HOOT #576

You may have read the comments, but you certainly didn’t understand them.

Like I said…

Long on criticisms, short on solutions…the Conservative way.

581 TEN MYTHS of Global Warming May 9, 2014 at 1:21 PM

MYTH 1: Global temperatures are rising at a rapid, unprecedented rate.

FACT: Accurate satellite, balloon and mountain top observations made over the last three decades have not shown any significant change in the long term rate of increase in global temperatures. Average ground station readings do show a mild warming of 0.6 to 0.8Cover the last 100 years, which is well within the natural variations recorded in the last millennium. The ground station network suffers from an uneven distribution across the globe; the stations are preferentially located in growing urban and industrial areas (“heat islands”), which show substantially higher readings than adjacent rural areas (“land use effects”).

There has been no catastrophic warming recorded.

MYTH 2: The “hockey stick” graph proves that the earth has experienced a steady, very gradual temperature increase for 1000 years, then recently began a sudden increase.

FACT: Significant changes in climate have continually occurred throughout geologic time. For instance, the Medieval Warm Period, from around 1000 to1200 AD (when the Vikings farmed on Greenland) was followed by a period known as the Little Ice Age. Since the end of the 17th Century the “average global temperature” has been rising at the low steady rate mentioned above; although from 1940 – 1970 temperatures actually dropped, leading to a Global Cooling scare.

The “hockey stick”, a poster boy of both the UN’s IPCC and Canada’s Environment Department, ignores historical recorded climatic swings, and has now also been proven to be flawed and statistically unreliable as well. It is a computer construct and a faulty one at that.

MYTH 3: Human produced carbon dioxide has increased over the last 100 years, adding to the Greenhouse effect, thus warming the earth.

FACT: Carbon dioxide levels have indeed changed for various reasons, human and otherwise, just as they have throughout geologic time. Since the beginning of the industrial revolution, the CO2 content of the atmosphere has increased. The RATE of growth during this period has also increased from about 0.2% per year to the present rate of about 0.4% per year,which growth rate has now been constant for the past 25 years. However, there is no proof that CO2 is the main driver of global warming. As measured in ice cores dated over many thousands of years, CO2 levels move up and down AFTER the temperature has done so, and thus are the RESULT OF, NOT THE CAUSE of warming. Geological field work in recent sediments confirms this causal relationship. There is solid evidence that, as temperatures move up and down naturally and cyclically through solar radiation, orbital and galactic influences, the warming surface layers of the earth’s oceans expel more CO2 as a result.

MYTH 4: CO2 is the most common greenhouse gas.

FACT: Greenhouse gases form about 3 % of the atmosphere by volume. They consist of varying amounts, (about 97%) of water vapour and clouds, with the remainder being gases like CO2, CH4, Ozone and N2O, of which carbon dioxide is the largest amount. Hence, CO2 constitutes about 0.037% of the atmosphere. While the minor gases are more effective as “greenhouse agents” than water vapour and clouds, the latter are overwhelming the effect by their sheer volume and – in the end – are thought to be responsible for 60% of the “Greenhouse effect”.
Those attributing climate change to CO2 rarely mention this important fact.

MYTH 5: Computer models verify that CO2 increases will cause significant global warming.

FACT: Computer models can be made to “verify” anything by changing some of the 5 million input parameters or any of a multitude of negative and positive feedbacks in the program used.. They do not “prove” anything. Also, computer models predicting global warming are incapable of properly including the effects of the sun, cosmic rays and the clouds. The sun is a major cause of temperature variation on the earth surface as its received radiation changes all the time, This happens largely in cyclical fashion. The number and the lengths in time of sunspots can be correlated very closely with average temperatures on earth, e.g. the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period. Varying intensity of solar heat radiation affects the surface temperature of the oceans and the currents. Warmer ocean water expels gases, some of which are CO2. Solar radiation interferes with the cosmic ray flux, thus influencing the amount ionized nuclei which control cloud cover.

MYTH 6: The UN proved that man–made CO2 causes global warming.
FACT: In a 1996 report by the UN on global warming, two statements were deleted from the final draft. Here they are:
1) “None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases.”
2) “No study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to man–made causes”

To the present day there is still no scientific proof that man-made CO2 causes significant global warming.

MYTH 7: CO2 is a pollutant.

FACT: This is absolutely not true. Nitrogen forms 80% of our atmosphere. We could not live in 100% nitrogen either. Carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than nitrogen is. CO2 is essential to life on earth. It is necessary for plant growth since increased CO2 intake as a result of increased atmospheric concentration causes many trees and other plants to grow more vigorously. Unfortunately, the Canadian Government has included CO2 with a number of truly toxic and noxious substances listed by the Environmental Protection Act, only as their means to politically control it.

MYTH 8: Global warming will cause more storms and other weather extremes.

FACT: There is no scientific or statistical evidence whatsoever that supports such claims on a global scale. Regional variations may occur. Growing insurance and infrastructure repair costs, particularly in coastal areas, are sometimes claimed to be the result of increasing frequency and severity of storms, whereas in reality they are a function of increasing population density, escalating development value, and ever more media reporting.

MYTH 9: Receding glaciers and the calving of ice shelves are proof of global warming.

FACT: Glaciers have been receding and growing cyclically for hundreds of years. Recent glacier melting is a consequence of coming out of the very cool period of the Little Ice Age. Ice shelves have been breaking off for centuries. Scientists know of at least 33 periods of glaciers growing and then retreating. It’s normal. Besides, glacier’s health is dependent as much on precipitation as on temperature.

MYTH 10: The earth’s poles are warming; polar ice caps are breaking up and melting and the sea level rising.

FACT: The earth is variable. The western Arctic may be getting somewhat warmer, due to unrelated cyclic events in the Pacific Ocean, but the Eastern Arctic and Greenland are getting colder. The small Palmer Peninsula of Antarctica is getting warmer, while the main Antarctic continent is actually cooling. Ice thicknesses are increasing both on Greenland and in Antarctica.

Sea level monitoring in the Pacific (Tuvalu) and Indian Oceans (Maldives) has shown no sign of any sea level rise.

582 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 1:38 PM

#581

Ugly chart…

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/global-temp-and-co2-1880-2009.gif

Wyoming says there is no sign of Global Warming at Jackson Hole, so they want to take the topic out of their public school instruction because it is not their “truth”.

583 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 1:53 PM

For analytic review:

Begins at:

#491 Pegasus May 8, 2014 at 9:16 AM
Congressman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) turned the tables on the media and asked them questions about Benghazi. The silence was deafening.
Best video clip I’ve seen in months, it’s only 3 minutes.
The Media should be embarrassed by Congressman Trey Gowdy’s questions.
The burden falls on the media who have not done anything to investigate this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5FwBnCU6WU

Having watched the tape:

#496 shadowblade May 8, 2014 at 12:38 PM
Pegasus #491
One would have thought after 9/11, bin Laden would have been a top priority. How long did it take Bush to capture/kill him?
Now, they criticize Obama’s handling of Benghazi?

#502 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM
#491 Pegasus
We all know all the answers to these questions since the press covered them…
Trey Gowdy is a simple middle school debate team leader in South Carolina.
Many innocent people are doing time in the Carolinas because of people like him.
When the state faced a budget crunch that forced many employees to go on unpaid furloughs, Gowdy funneled part of his campaign account into the solicitor’s budget so his staff could keep working.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trey_Gowdy#Legal_career

Then he responds:

Pegasus May 8, 2014 at 4:34 PM
@ shadowblade #496 –
Pathetic attempt at deflection, as expected from the likes of you.
You too phantom @ 502 – Two of a kind. Whine, blame the other guy/party. Pathetic.
It’s a dirty shame Obama and his select gang of criminal liars have the govt locked up. His day will come. That criminal Holder too.
Republicans are horrible but democrats are worse.

#537 Pegasus May 8, 2014 at 6:47 PM
shadowblade –
NOT DEFLECTING? Really?
My post had to do with how Congressman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) turned the tables on the media and asked them questions about Benghazi. Had you viewed the clip you’d know how dumbfounded the media was.
You throw out Bush and 9/11 and that’s not deflecting?
Oh I forgot, you gals get to change the game when it gets uncomfortable for you. Typical.
Get lost, chump.

#569 Yhe Phantom May 8, 2014 at 11:35 PM
#491 Pegasus
We all know all the answers to these questions since the press covered them…

#576 A HOOT May 9, 2014 at 7:17 AM
@ 569 yhe phantom -
I read the comments and yes you definitely made a miserable attempt to deflect, same as shadowblade.
Pegasis – 3
phantom – 0
shadowblade – 0

Final remarks?

- Trey Gowdy simply slammed out of there and there were no opportunities to challenge his remarks…nobody was dumbfounded…watch to the end yourself!

My feeling is that he doesn’t watch FOX or he would know the answers.
He doesn’t watch ABC, CBS, CNN. or MSNBC eiher.

584 Global warming debunked: NASA report verifies carbon dioxide actually cools atmosphere May 9, 2014 at 2:02 PM

(NaturalNews) Practically everything you have been told by the mainstream scientific community and the media about the alleged detriments of greenhouse gases, and particularly carbon dioxide, appears to be false, according to new data compiled by NASA’s Langley Research Center. As it turns out, all those atmospheric greenhouse gases that Al Gore and all the other global warming hoaxers have long claimed are overheating and destroying our planet are actually cooling it, based on the latest evidence.

As reported by Principia Scientific International (PSI), Martin Mlynczak and his colleagues over at NASA tracked infrared emissions from the earth’s upper atmosphere during and following a recent solar storm that took place between March 8-10. What they found was that the vast majority of energy released from the sun during this immense coronal mass ejection (CME) was reflected back up into space rather than deposited into earth’s lower atmosphere.

The result was an overall cooling effect that completely contradicts claims made by NASA’s own climatology division that greenhouse gases are a cause of global warming. As illustrated by data collected using Sounding of the Atmosphere using Broadband Emission Radiometry (SABER), both carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), which are abundant in the earth’s upper atmosphere, greenhouse gases reflect heating energy rather than absorb it.

“Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” says James Russell from Hampton University, who was one of the lead investigators for the groundbreaking SABER study. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.”

Almost all ‘heating’ radiation generated by sun is blocked from entering lower atmosphere by CO2
According to the data, up to 95 percent of solar radiation is literally bounced back into space by both CO2 and NO in the upper atmosphere. Without these necessary elements, in other words, the earth would be capable of absorbing potentially devastating amounts of solar energy that would truly melt the polar ice caps and destroy the planet.

“The shock revelation starkly contradicts the core proposition of the so-called greenhouse gas theory which claims that more CO2 means more warming for our planet,” write H. Schreuder and J. O’Sullivan for PSI. “[T]his compelling new NASA data disproves that notion and is a huge embarrassment for NASA’s chief climatologist, Dr. James Hansen and his team over at NASA’s GISS.”

Dr. Hansen, of course, is an outspoken global warming activist who helped spark man-made climate change hysteria in the U.S. back in 1988. Just after the release of the new SABER study, however, Dr. Hansen conveniently retired from his career as a climatologist at NASA, and reportedly now plans to spend his time “on science,” and on “drawing attention to [its] implications for young people.”

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040448_solar_radiation_global_warming_debunked.html#ixzz31FqHUSIR

585 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 2:44 PM

An Obama judicial nominee is facing some fierce opposition from an unlikely source: more than two dozen liberal groups and two Democratic congressmen from his home state.

Michael Boggs, a judge for the Court of Appeals of Georgia and a former state representative, was nominated in January for the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia. A Senate Judiciary Committee hearing about his nomination is scheduled for Tuesday.

However, Boggs’ nomination is coming under fire over some of the bills he sponsored and voted for while serving in the Georgia General Assembly, mainly because his votes reflect more socially conservative views on abortion and gay rights, despite the fact he served as a Democrat.

Among the bills he co-sponsored was one in 2003 to establish a “Choose Life adoption support program” to encourage women to consider adoption over abortion. The bill would have established a “Choose Life” license plate to fund the program. Another bill Boggs co-sponsored that year would have tightened restrictions on minors seeking abortions.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/09/obama-judiciary-nominee-may-face-fight-from-dems-progressive-groups/

- Depriving the state of a persons good service because someone disagreed with us politically, and punishing them for their “politically incorrect” thoughts and beliefs is wrong…not “inappropriate”…not a poor “choice”…but morally wrong and corrupt!
- He was a representing his district.
- People have a right to oppose abortion and birth control and to discourage others, through argument and education, to believe that it is correct thinking. [They do not have the right to deprive women of services].

586 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 2:52 PM

“Almost all ‘heating’ radiation generated by sun is blocked from entering lower atmosphere by CO2 {Comes from the Sun]’
According to the data, up to 95 percent of solar radiation is literally bounced back into space by both CO2 and NO in the upper atmosphere.”

- So what happens to all the heat generated on the Earth from fires, volcanos, industry, commuters, and other carbon based energy conversion processes? 95% reflected back to Earth?

Reflects the heat back to Earth…global warming!

I’m just doing the stupid, easy ones.

587 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Climate Change? Global warming? Time Slice error? IPCC crushed?

BELGIAN AND GERMAN SCIENCE IS BETTER! Brains better!

14.4°C is 57.920°F 1960-1975 flat average

15°C is 59°F 1998-2013 flat average

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Radiosonde_Satellite_Surface_Temperature.svg

15° is up from 14.4° by 0.6°C (4%) in 53 years

15° est de plus de 14.4° by 0.6°C

15° mer als 14.4° by 0.6°C

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/107760main_annual_mean_anom.jpg

What are the consequences of not reducing CO2 emissions?

· More CO2 for all the plants to make O2 for the animals.

What are the consequences of global warming?

· More arable land available to grow food for the future 20B people on Earth.
· More seawater to evaporate into fresh water for the plants and animals.
· More cloud cover to reduce dangerous radiation from the Sun.
· Arabs, Persians, Indians, Africans, and South Americans will get to relocate unless we can convert solar energy to electrical energy for air conditioners and refrigeration.

Don’t worry, be happy.

588 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 3:14 PM

They are beginning to announce that Republicans have been using Benghazi and the Fast and Furious investigations as subjects at political fund raising events instead of using birth control and Pro Life as attractors for campaign funds.

Of course that explains why even they are bored stiff on all four subjects…they pursue expensive government paid media events…House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform…a ghoulish publically funded, fund raising event.

589 Pegasus May 9, 2014 at 3:16 PM

I try to think GLOBAL and no matter what I do I just can’t seem to reduce the air pollution in China.

590 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 3:17 PM

Correction:

“Of course that explains why even they are bored stiff on all four subjects…they pursue expensive government paid media events…House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform…a ghoulish publicly funded, fund raising event.”

- I know how you guys are!

591 Aunt Mary May 9, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Slow day under phantom’s rock………..geeze give it a rest. You need to find another hobby.
You poor soul.

592 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 3:23 PM

NASA, NOAA, every major scientific organization in the US, 97% of peer-reviewed scientific studies…all confirm global warming is real. But some people insist on sticking with their political talking points.

593 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 3:35 PM

#588…

Let’s take a look at Principia Scientific International…

http://www.principia-scientific.org/

“Joining is free, but an annual donation of $30…”

Is this a joke? Why are they so interested in getting people to join? Sounds like a scam to get money from gullible people.

594 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Pegasus #593

If you were thinking global, why were you talking about temperatures in the US?

595 Dennis May 9, 2014 at 3:56 PM

@#591

“14.4°C is 57.920°F 1960-1975 flat average
15°C is 59°F 1998-2013 flat average”

well, gee, now, lets take a closer look at that cherry picked data, shall we?
I have posted repeatedly that from ABOUT 1942 to 1972, while CO2 was INCREASING, Global avg temp was DECREASING.

That means for 30 years (including 1960-1975) the earth was getting colder, and thus the average was lower than before (or after).
From ABOUT 1972 until ABOUT 200, the earth was in its 30-year warming phase, and thus the AVERAGE was – gasp – higher than the average for the 30 year cooling phase.

Just like you said above.

wow. what a shock. you could also compare the average of 1911-1941 and see that it is HIGHER than the average of the following 30 years.

so what? are you shocked that the average during a 30 year warming cycle is higher than the average during a 30 year cooling cycle? what a surprise!

And PS most of the warming that occurred during the 20th century happened in the 1st half … even though industry grew exponentially during the 2nd half. So much for anthropogenic causes.

596 Dennis May 9, 2014 at 4:01 PM

@#590
“- So what happens to all the heat generated on the Earth from fires, volcanos, industry, commuters, and other carbon based energy conversion processes? 95% reflected back to Earth?

Reflects the heat back to Earth…global warming!”

If global warming was represented by a skyscraper, the amount caused by humans would be about the thickness of the carpet on the ground floor. The rest is caused by volcanoes, forest fires, and hundreds of square miles of underground coal fires that have been burning for over 100 years in Indonesia, etc.

Bottom line: anthropogenic causes of warmng are nothing more than a scare tactic used by ecoterrorists to force increased governmental control of private industry (ie. Socialism/Communism/Fascism).

597 Dennis May 9, 2014 at 4:07 PM

@Pegasus #593

“I try to think GLOBAL and no matter what I do I just can’t seem to reduce the air pollution in China.”

The gun control issue is similar: all the laws that affect non-violent law-abiding citizens have no effect whatsoever on the known violent criminals that are actually doing the violent crimes.

But passing punitive laws controlling the non-offenders makes them feel better. They can delude themselves into thinking that the OVERALL result is an improvement.

;)

598 Pegasus May 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM

I thought you needed more to whine, snivel and complain about. But hey, at least you’re willing to (cough-cough) consider opposing opinions.

599 Dennis May 9, 2014 at 4:22 PM

@JWB #580

“You simply continue to show that you are making claims where you have absolutely no idea about. It’s clear that any discussion with you is just a waste of time….”

me: “What an idiot. There are only 2 Nations in history that were Fascist.”

you: “How about Japan, Spain, Portugal, Croatia, Rumania, Hungary to just name a few?

Here is your favorite wikipedia link:”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fascist_movements

me: Perhaps rather than looking for excuses to claim that I don’t know what I’m talking about, you might actually try reading the link you posted.

Indeed, the very first paragraph of your link provides your answer (note the word ALLEGED):

“This article discusses regimes and movements that are alleged to have been either fascist or sympathetic to fascism. It is often a matter of dispute whether a certain government is to be characterized as fascist (radical authoritarian nationalism), authoritarian, totalitarian, or a police state. The term “fascism” itself is controversial, and has been defined in various ways by different authors. Many of the regimes and movements discussed in this article can be considered fascist according to some definitions but not according to others. See definitions of fascism for more information on that subject.”

I’d like to mention Franco’s Spain, since you did. Franco had no army (other than the Moroccan legion he commanded), so in order to seize control of Spain, he borrowed Musolini’s Navy and Hitler’s Luftwaffe. He was just a wanna-be dictator who needed the Fascist war machine to sieze power.

Japan? It was a Monarchy ultimately controlled by the military. Common dictatorship, garden variety, nothing to see here, folks, move along.

600 Dennis May 9, 2014 at 4:25 PM

@JWB
PS did you notice whether those governments were Socialist or not? How does labelling a country Fascist prove/disprove whether they were Socialist or not?

601 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 4:40 PM

We did it…we have over 600 comments and there is absolutely nothing political going on at all…except more fund raising meetings on Benghazi.

604 comments and the final subject was about the future and what the Democratic Party is trying to do about it…Global Warming and the consequential climate change…that is manifest in the sea temperatures and the extreme weather on the land masses…being denied by the Birthers as expected.

Congratulations to everyone and just in case you missed it…Claycord.com has a YouTube commercial…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcPoKnEOy48

See you over at the Claycord.com Bar and BBQ.

Aunt Mary is going to do a pole dance…after it gets real dark.

602 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM

They use the government investigations to inform themselves on subjects they do not understand.

Failing to listen carefully or pay active attention. they remain confused and reaffirm the ridiculous position they used as a “straw man” to get thighs started.

603 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Excerpt from: YOUNG DEMOCRAT TRAINING LESSON: Republican thinking.

23. Republicans use the government investigations to inform themselves on subjects they do not understand. Failing to listen carefully or pay active attention, they remain confused and reaffirm the ridiculous position they used as a “straw man” to get things started. All this to avoid doing productive work for the country.

604 JWB May 9, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Old man Dennis you clearly are out of your mind … do you see the pattern.

First you claim I’m the only one in the world claiming that Fascist is right wing on the political spectrum.

I show you all the other references for example in Wikipedia but of course you can’t admitt that your were wrong and try to deflect that there were only two Fascisct nations in history.

I, once again show you how wrong you are and now you try to deflec the discussion to Franco’s army?

Who the F&*(()* cares? There is a number of Fascist nations and movements and they are all considered to be on the right end of the political spectrum.

So stop waisting bandwith and my time … we all got it you are trying way too hard to detract.

605 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 5:10 PM

“If global warming was represented by a skyscraper, the amount caused by humans would be about the thickness of the carpet on the ground floor. The rest is caused by volcanoes, forest fires, and hundreds of square miles of underground coal fires that have been burning for over 100 years in Indonesia, etc.”

- Any source links available?

Thanks

606 . May 9, 2014 at 5:37 PM

If you believe CO2 emissions should controlled, …. don’t exhale.

607 . May 9, 2014 at 6:00 PM

If the rich democrat one percent couldn’t make money of global warming or climate change they wouldn’t even be interested.

608 Serious Stuff May 9, 2014 at 6:08 PM

An almost 75 year of democrat member of the House of Representatives is calling for a Congressional hearing on the “offensive” and “derogatory” Redskins name.

609 Bad News for Always Right May 9, 2014 at 6:29 PM

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — A judge on Friday struck down Arkansas’ ban on same-sex marriage, saying the state has “no rational reason” for preventing gay couples from marrying.

Pulaski County Circuit Judge Chris Piazza ruled that the 2004 voter-approved amendment to the state constitution violates the rights of same-sex couples.

“This is an unconstitutional attempt to narrow the definition of equality,” Piazza wrote. “The exclusion of a minority for no rational reason is a dangerous precedent.”

The ruling came nearly a week after state Attorney General Dustin McDaniel announced he personally supports gay marriage rights but that he will continue to defend the constitutional ban in court. McDaniel’s office said he would appeal the ruling.

610 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Dennis #599

“well, gee, now, lets take a closer look at that cherry picked data, shall we?
I have posted repeatedly that from ABOUT 1942 to 1972, while CO2 was INCREASING, Global avg temp was DECREASING.”

Gee…this has already been explained. You just simply ignore it, and move on.

Again…NASA, NOAA, every major scientific organization in the US, 97% of peer-reviewed studies…

Dennis just dismisses this in favor of political rhetoric. Why? Because the science doesn’t fit with his view of the world. Bottom line…he knows global warming is real, he just doesn’t care because he’ll be long gone before the sh#t really hits. He’s willing to screw over future generations because he doesn’t want to be inconvenienced.

611 Dennis May 9, 2014 at 6:47 PM

@Shallowbrin
“Gee…this has already been explained. You just simply ignore it, and move on.”

no, idiot, it has not been SATISFACTORILY explained, by you or anyone else. All you do is claim it is, and hide it under the rug, hoping no one will notice that CO2 continuously rose for 30 years, while global average temperature decreased for that same 30 years.

and that is not a satisfactory explanation. It also doesn’t “prove” man is the “cause” of global warming, nor does it “prove” that destroying a free private industry will have any effect on warming.

So try to accept the fact that propaganda by the climate change doomsayers are not “settled science”, no matter how much your Dem idols like Al Gore insist otherwise.

612 Dennis May 9, 2014 at 6:50 PM

@ShallowBrain
“he knows global warming is real, he just doesn’t care because he’ll be long gone before the sh#t really hits. He’s willing to screw over future generations because he doesn’t want to be inconvenienced.”

that exactly describes the Socialists who are desperately using warming as an excuse to further their agenda to eliminate capitalism; they readily admit that there will be no indication of promised “improvement” for 50-100 years. By the time the tools (like you) figure out it was a lie and a political ploy, they’ll be long gone.

613 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Dennis asked for it…not my fault!

YOUNG DEMOCRAT TRAINING LESSON: Capitalism-brief remarks

Democrats are not Socialist, Communist, or Fascist. We are intelligent preservationists and social and financial engineers. Capitalism is the system that provides jobs, products, goods, and services to a mass population of consumers, and allows anyone to become investors by way of independent purchase, pension plans, and tax sheltered savings. No other economic system provides as many fine and effective opportunities for the individual to work for personal economic and social success for themselves and their families.

We prefer to solve problems at the highest system level, because national solutions to widespread social and economic problems are intrinsically more effective, economical, and equitable.

Wild Libertarian capitalism has several important characteristics:

· Maximize returns to investors and management
· Minimize payments to employees and vendors
· Laissez-faire (no regulation of “free markets”), with allowable restraints of trade by monopoly or oligopoly cartels, and the reduced competition
· Supply and demand market pricing, with allowable price fixing by monopoly or oligopoly cartels, and reduced competition.
· Caveat emptor (“let the buyer beware”, no tort or class action law),
· Safe harbors, (unregulated investment formation)
· Sharp practice, (lack of Uniform Commercial code and lack of a Statute of Frauds).

Do pure wild capitalists believe in National Defense? Yes
Federal Reserve Banking? Yes, as long as it bails them out.
Farm Subsidies? Yes
Social Security? Yes, if they are 60 years old or older otherwise no!
Medicare? Yes, if they are 60 years old or older, otherwise no!
Food Stamps, Medicaid or general Healthcare? No!

The Democrat Party proposes, nay insists on a higher social form:

Civilized capitalism;

· Fair Stakeholder return to investors, employees, and management
· Provides a living wage and incentive payments to employees and vendors
· Prevents restraints of trade by cartels, trusts, monopolies, or oligopoly
· Prevents Dangerous products
· Provides Safe working conditions
· Prevents Fraudulent and Reckless investment
· Requires Environmental responsibility

Investors we can compel corporations to behave well, just as the employers can insist that the workers behave well.

As Democrats, we are perhaps the only truly conservative civilian capitalists.

Incidentally, it appears that we pay the majority of the income and payroll taxes that fund the social programs so hated by Republicans.

614 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Dennis…

“no, idiot, it has not been SATISFACTORILY explained, by you or anyone else. All you do is claim it is, and hide it under the rug, hoping no one will notice that CO2 continuously rose for 30 years, while global average temperature decreased for that same 30 years.”

Yes it has, idiot. You just refuse to believe because it doesn’t fit with your view of the world.
————————————-
“and that is not a satisfactory explanation. It also doesn’t “prove” man is the “cause” of global warming, nor does it “prove” that destroying a free private industry will have any effect on warming.”

It is a satisfactory explanation, as it is backed up by science.
——————————————————————————————-
“So try to accept the fact that propaganda by the climate change doomsayers are not “settled science”, no matter how much your Dem idols like Al Gore insist otherwise.”

Here you go again with Al Gore. When have I used Al Gore in the GW debate? Oh, that’s right…NEVER!! This is just you making up stuff, because your argument consists of nothing more than political rhetoric.
————————————————————————————–
“that exactly describes the Socialists who are desperately using warming as an excuse to further their agenda to eliminate capitalism; they readily admit that there will be no indication of promised “improvement” for 50-100 years. By the time the tools (like you) figure out it was a lie and a political ploy, they’ll be long gone.”

BS! Global warming is backed by science. Your argument is backed by political rhetoric. You flat out dismiss all of the science because it doesn’t fit with your view of the world.

615 @Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 7:44 PM

You’re whine more than obama

616 Ted Cruz May 9, 2014 at 7:45 PM

“President Obama said the day after the budget deal is made he’s going to concentrate on immigration. He says he’ll start by deporting Ted Cruz.” –Conan O’Brien

617 shadowblade May 9, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Climate study partially funded by Koch Brothers…

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2011/1021/Climate-study-funded-in-part-by-conservative-group-confirms-global-warming

Gee…even the GW skeptics seem to be coming around.

618 Republicans, May 9, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Republicans, the Macbeth party, “It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.”.

619 Dennis May 9, 2014 at 7:53 PM

@PhanDumbAndDumber

“Democrats are not Socialist, Communist, or Fascist. ”

No, they are sheep, that rubber stamp anything they are told to, by the leadership of the Democratic Party, which is, indeed “Socialist, Communist, Fascist”.

“We prefer to solve problems at the highest system level, because national solutions to widespread social and economic problems are intrinsically more effective, economical, and equitable. ”

“the highest system level” being your dictator? And of course, it should be the Feds who control parking meter fees, pothole repair, and whether or not to build a school?

Here’s a hint: States are supposed to take care of those issues, because what works for LA freeways doesn’t work for Yellowstone Park. The Federal government is supposed to deal with nation vs. nation issues, and state vs. state issues.

It was intentionally designed to prevent a few people from grasping overall power at the Federal level. you know, like Obama is trying to do now?

620 North Korea unleashes racist slurs against Obama May 9, 2014 at 8:15 PM

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — After bombarding South Korea’s female president with sexist invectives, North Korea’s state news agency has fired off racist insults against President Barack Obama that U.S. officials condemn as “disgusting.”

North Korea is notorious for inflammatory, warlike rhetoric against its rivals South Korea and the U.S. but had rarely used racial slurs in its verbal attacks. Pyongyang’s tone has grown angrier in recent weeks as it threatens to conduct a fourth nuclear test.

In a lengthy May 2 dispatch released only in Korean, Pyongyang’s Korean Central News Agency published comments from a factory worker who said Obama has the “shape of a monkey” and made many other crude insults.

“It would be better for him to live with other monkeys at a wild animal park in Africa … and licking bread crumbs thrown by onlookers,” worker Kang Hyok at Chollima Steel Complex was quoted as saying.

Marie Harf, a State Department spokeswoman, said Thursday that the North Korean dispatch was “offensive and ridiculous and absurd.”

“I don’t know how many words I can use up here to describe the rhetoric … It’s disgusting,” she told reporters at the Foreign Press Center in Washington.

Yoo Ho-yeol, professor of North Korea studies at Korea University in South Korea, said North Korea is trying to get attention by publishing such comments through its state-run news agency. But he added that it tried to distance the government from the remarks by attributing them to a citizen.

“If it was to publish such a report in the voice of the authorities it would entrap them, whereas reporting the story under some ordinary citizen’s name will give them leeway,” Yoo said.

The North’s rhetoric against Obama and South Korean President Park Geun-hye intensified after they held a summit in Seoul late last month. During his visit, Obama said at a joint news conference with Park that it may be time to consider further sanctions against North Korea, and that the U.S. will not hesitate to use its military might to defend its allies.

Recent state media dispatches criticizing Park are full of sexist tirades such as “old prostitute coquetting with outside force.”

621 Yhe Phantom May 9, 2014 at 8:41 PM

The issue of curbing state abuse of the country’s citizens began most effectively on April 9, 1865, like Lincoln did then, and we do now.

The whole idea was one great flag instead of a bunch of stupid ones like Florida’s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Florida.svg

622 Connie Dobbs May 9, 2014 at 10:20 PM

#624 Well, that’s torn it. The NBA owners are going to force the sale of North Korea. No one named ”Kim” will ever be allowed to own a country again. Somebody call Al Sharpton.

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