BART Invites Public to Tour Fleet of the Future Train Car Model

April 3, 2014 17:31 pm · 22 comments

The public is invited to experience what the new BART fleet will look and feel like during an outreach effort with 10 events held all over the Bay Area between April 16th and May 9th. The public will get to walk through the model train car and provide feedback on the new modern features.

This tour is the final review of the train car design before manufacturing and testing begin.

New Features:

  • Quieter: “micro-plug” doors will help seal out noise
  • Cooler: cooling systems will distribute air directly to the ceilings, making it more comfortable for standees on hot days
  • Comfortable: padded seats will have lumbar support and will be covered with wipeable fabric for ease of cleaning
  • Easy to use: routes will be color coded like the BART system map, and next stop information will be readily available via automated announcements and digital screens

Times & Locations:

San Francisco—Justin Herman Plaza
(Near Embarcadero Station)
April 16, 2014 | 11:30am–7:00pm

West Oakland Station
April 18, 2014 | 2:00–7:00pm

Fremont Station
April 21, 2014 | 2:00–7:00pm

Pittsburg/Bay Point Station
April 23, 2014 | 2:00–7:00pm

San Francisco—Civic Center Plaza
(Fulton Street near Civic Center Station)
April 25, 2014 | 11:00am–7:00pm

North Berkeley Station
April 29, 2014 | 2:00–7:00pm

Milpitas/San Jose—Great Mall
Main Transit Center
(Great Mall Parkway & S. Main Street)
May 2, 2014 | 2:00–7:00pm

Dublin/Pleasanton Station
May 5, 2014 | 2:00–7:00pm

Fruitvale Station
May 7, 2014 | 2:00–7:00pm

Concord Station
May 9, 2014 | 2:00–7:00pm


Dorothy April 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM

I hope the “wipeable fabric” is also sharp object proof. And does “automated announcements” do away with union drivers who sometimes make those announcements?

Hoser April 3, 2014 at 6:07 PM

I hope it can be hosed off inside every night.

AnotherAnon------- Automated announcements and screens April 3, 2014 at 6:22 PM

I really appreciated the trains in Spain and France last month, mostly for the screen in each car, showing what the next stop would be. The announcement could sometimes be heard, sometimes not, depending upon the noise level in the car, but the screens are definitely a giant step in the right direction. The next step should be to eliminate the screeching of the wheels on the rails. In Mexico City, the trains run on quiet rubber wheels, not steel.

Carmen April 3, 2014 at 6:41 PM

I wonder if they’ll have outlets and WiFi like a lot of public transportation these have, I didn’t see that mentioned

concord April 3, 2014 at 7:24 PM

everything looks great but you can’t see how many seats there are in the car. The homeless won’t be able to occupy two to four seats any longer and hopefully BART will finally do something so the homeless and other creeps quit vandalizing the cars. I saw some homeless guy the other night open the emergency door release and dump tons ands of liquid down there. He was a total psycho and I’m sure he didn’t have a ticket. I’m tired of all these people wrecking the BART system and BART doesn’t NOTHING, NADA, SQUAT about it. Huge waste of taxpayer dollars.

@concord April 3, 2014 at 7:46 PM

What did you do?

crazytech58 April 3, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Let’s try focusing on the outside of the train….. like wheels and axle’s that are QUIETER, there is no reasonable excuse why bart trains make such a loud screeching noise on gradual turns, anybody who lives near a turn in the tracks, knows what i’m talking about.

Elwood April 3, 2014 at 11:27 PM

@ Dorothy #1

Next station is Garbleargh. Garbleargh.

Could automated be any worse?

Francis Barker April 4, 2014 at 6:03 AM

It always smells really bad like urine on the trains and the carpeting is always a dump.Bart needs to take care there trains like Amtrak!!!!!!

Suzanne April 4, 2014 at 6:49 AM

The trains really need a steam cleaning.

Michelle April 4, 2014 at 7:30 AM

Something has to be done about those trains and yes the homeless continue to pour their escrement everywhere. Then they yell about it–this is something I can do without! The homeless should be stopped at the gate just because of this behavior; normal people don’t want to tolerate it.

Gale Force April 4, 2014 at 7:52 AM

Fabric on seats? Really? If we’ve
learned one thing about bart it is that
fabric is totally impractical. As is
carpet. You simply cannot keep it
clean. Wipable and disinfectable
plastic is a necessity for seating in
a public transportation venue that
takes as much abuse as bart. And
certainly carpeting must be replaced
when it gets worn and dirty beyond
what is attractive and sanitary, adding
to costs. Why not a sturdy plastic
surface that can also be cleaned and
disinfected? It’s not a theater venue …
or an opera venue … more like a
football venue or baseball venue. The
surfaces need to be able to take abuse,
be quicky and easily cleaned, but still
look good. Fabric and carpeting just
add to the cost of upkeep and quickly
look tired and worn.

Fumunda April 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM

Boo hoo
Buy a car then

The Professor April 4, 2014 at 8:23 AM

But will they smell better?

D & D April 4, 2014 at 8:55 AM

The wife and I have been riding the BART system for 30 years. we never had a problem, except for some minor delays. The new BART cars are great, so now it’s time for the designers and engineers to work on the noise problem. Trains always have been plagued for years with wheel harmonics especially on curves and turns. You know in Europe they tried insulators on the steel wheels, with disastrous results, so I would be concerned about that approach. Good luck and many more years of good service. D & D

The Mamba April 4, 2014 at 9:09 AM

I’ll definitely run over to West Oakland or Fruitvale on my day off to check out some new BART cattle cars.

foonman April 4, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Do you think theres any chance new cars can be manufactured in this country? The first BART cars were made by a Boeing divison in Washington state and held up well. However cost is a factor. Still would like to see Americans employed to build any new…………..are any current cars built here?

Rose Garden April 4, 2014 at 10:59 AM

I’m looking forward to the cooling systems. I’m a standee on a hot day! Men graciously offer me their seat, but after a long day, I prefer to stand. It keeps me alert.

anonanonagain April 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM

I hope that Bart is comparing their trains to the innovative and very well built European trains or the trains in Japan. We need to learn from other forward countries that have mass transit, what works and what doesn’t. I definitely like the look of the trains from the outside. Still recognizable as Bart but upgraded for the future……

Concord April 5, 2014 at 8:23 AM

How about cleaning the stations including the walls, ceilings, stairs and restrooms? They look like pig stys.
Also, is there a reason the trains jerk from side to side and stop suddenly?

ConcordDad April 5, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Problem is that BART can’t do anything about the homeless and stinky people. There’s no law about being stinky. the people pay 1.85 to get in an ride around for a few hours and sleep. It sucks big time but there’s really nothing they can do. If you see people Drunk or doing other illegal things report it don’t just complain. It’s Public transportation people!

I love how the colors of the new trains are all Seattle Seahawks colors. Hhhmmmm The GM is from Seattle.

DrDuran April 5, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Foonman – the new cars are being built in New York using >95% US sourced materials.

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