The Water Cooler – Tax on Soda

February 20, 2014 · 97 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon!

Today’s question:

A statewide poll released today found that 67 percent of the voting public in California would support a tax on soda and other sugary drinks, with the revenue going to school nutrition and physical activity programs.

Claycordians, would you support a tax on soda?

Talk about it….

1 I think.. February 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM

How about a blanket Sin tax? On alcohol, junk food etc???? It would have to be state wide though imo.. We need the money. We do not need beer or junk food? Tax Beer , hard alcohol and wine Way before pop? Geeeze. I like how they raise water rates so it is harder to grow your own food but leave Big Macs alone, and beer alone? But water? Heck ya! Raise them rates!!!

2 Wow February 20, 2014 at 12:10 PM

No, I don’t trust that’s where the revenue would be going.

3 Killjoy February 20, 2014 at 12:13 PM

I don’t believe the number of 67%.
Did you know that 78% of all statistics are just numbers the someone pulled out of their hind quarters?

4 PH FAN February 20, 2014 at 12:14 PM

yes, do it…

5 Anon777 February 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM

NO MORE TAXES!! We already get double and triple taxed on everything!

6 ms.v February 20, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Yes. I think all non “food” items should be taxed.
This includes candy, snack foods like chips and cookies, and all soft drinks.

7 Forget It February 20, 2014 at 12:21 PM

No, we have enough taxes, thank you.

8 NO NEW TAXES February 20, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Has any tax levied so far done what it has supposed to do?

The gullibility of the voting public is frigtening.

9 WC44 February 20, 2014 at 12:26 PM

In other news 2/3 of CA voters are idiots. These type of dedicated taxes are almost always a waste. We voted to help children and ended up with the wasteful First Five program. We voted to help the mentally ill and ended up spending the funds on outreach programs and adverstising vs. treatment. We pay for school, prison and road maintanance via bonds instead of a pay as you go system which costs billions in interest payments. All of these programs result in money being funneled to “community groups”, family members and donors at the CA taxpayer expense.

10 Peachy February 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Tax the air we breathe, the water we drink. For every baby born, the parents should pay a birth tax. Tax every word spoken. Tax every letter typed. Taxing soda is just as ridiculous as those things.

11 missime February 20, 2014 at 12:31 PM

I think it would be counterproductive. The schools would use the funds they use now for nutrition & physical activity programs for other items. Therefore, those programs would dependent on the consumption of soda & sugary drinks to fund them. A decrease in the consumption of those items would result in less $ to the schools. So the result would be to keep consumption up so that they continue to receive the $ for their programs.

I don’t think the American people need the level of babysitting that the government think they do. The problem is that we don’t want to let people suffer the consequences of their choices.

12 Erin February 20, 2014 at 12:35 PM

I definitely think there should be a luxury tax. If you don’t really “need” it then it should be taxed higher. In return I would say that all other taxes should be lowered. If I want to buy a pack of cigarettes I should have to pay $10, but things like water should not be taxed.

13 Clayton Squirrel February 20, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Yes, please. Tax soda. It is so sad when it is the cheapest choice because it leads to skyrocketing cases of diabetes as well as obesity. I don’t buy that it is a burden to the poor. If anything the poor are the least able to treat the diseases that soda causes. Tooth decay and all that as well. Homemade ice tea or water with lemon is just as refreshing. Diet soda is just nasty.

14 JET February 20, 2014 at 12:41 PM

YES I totally support this! Soda is disgusting and is making this country sick…. should definitely add taxes to the cost, unfortunately I don’t think that will keep the masses from chugging it like water.

15 Ted K., SuperMax February 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM

NO.

No one is force-feeding soda and sugary drinks down my throat. I am able to make my own decisions.

NO MORE NANNY TAXES AND NO MORE NANNY LAWS.

16 I think.. February 20, 2014 at 12:45 PM

I agree with what is said. Taxes rarely go for what they are voted for. I should have said first thing , if we do have a sin tax, we need to do is make a in stone law that sees money from taxes and voted for goes to what we voted for it to be used for. Or else. One thing I will say is No more parcel taxes.. Now that is low. We have to live somewhere and people have their life saving tied up in their homes, we do Not need Junk food, alcohol etc. And If, if we need money for fire houses or education, Sin tax, NOT property taxes. Please.. Or income taxes. But get it from Sins. btw we lost fire stations last time imo because another parcel tax measure was also on the ballot for science equipment for schools. Can you believe that? Parcel tax is a money cow that should only be used for critical services, like fire houses, not Science equip imo.. Another law we should write up..

17 The Mamba February 20, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Nothing else needs to be taxed, the state takes enough already. 54% of Californians don’t work, go fix that.

18 unknown February 20, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Just another tax on top of another tax. Just lower your standard of living. This tax will go into some gov’t employee pocket that they need to keep track of the “new tax”. You don’t have to buy soda!

19 RIII February 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Just about anything we do today seems to require some sort of government oversight which is just another expense to the general public. Who and how many will administer this activity, who and how many will enforce it and at what cost to the community? De we really need our government involved in every single thing we do? I think not. It appears that there is a bureau, a commission, an agency or a management group attached to everything we do these days. Where is the individual responsibility? What ever happened to individual choice? Where are the parents and the people responsible for raising a family? If you want to eat candy, drink a soda, eat some ice-cream or anything else, it should be your choice and it’s not a shock that these things contain sugar.

20 Larrabee February 20, 2014 at 1:03 PM

It doesn’t surprise me that a majority of Californians would accept another lame excuse to give their free-spending politicians more money. I think those people probably believe those revenues will somehow, miraculously find their way into school nutrition and physical activity programs as well.

21 just a concordian February 20, 2014 at 1:04 PM

I say tax the manufacturer and put a price ceiling on the product. Suddenly their profits shrink tremendously and we see a less and less production until some drinks might even get taken out of the market altogether.

22 Clayton Valley Grad February 20, 2014 at 1:08 PM

It doesn’t matter to me one way or the other.

23 typical concord resident February 20, 2014 at 1:12 PM

67% of the voting public don’t deserve to live in the LAND of the FREE!!!!!!!!!!

24 Not "other sugary drinks" because... February 20, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Sugary drinks could mean FRESHLY squeezed (no sugar added) 100% orange juice or grape juice. Or carrot-apple juice. Or pear juice. Or tomato juice. Or pineapple juice.

I don’t buy any of that stuff – I juice my own fruit and vegetables – but not everyone can.

A better definition is needed.

25 Anonymous February 20, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Well here is something to ponder: recently we approved an increase in the sales tax to keep more cops on the street. Then we find we can afford a domestic violence center. This stuff is bait and switch and I ain’t for it.

I certainly will be watching our City Council more carefully.

26 @# 23 February 20, 2014 at 1:35 PM

YOU are exactly right.

If people stopped drinking soda, manufacturers was make changes in order to keep sales. If that meant manufacturers had to produce healthy products, they would. Manufacturers are driven by the market, the people.

To get the government to force anything in the marketing or ingredients of any such product is pure socialism.

Free people deserve and are entitled to a better government.

The socialists deserve the poverty they encourage, they should go find it in a small drug cartel dominated slum in Mexico.

27 livin in Concord February 20, 2014 at 1:35 PM

NO

No more taxes. We pay enough already. They tax the can, the water, the sugar, the production, the gas to get it to market… and on and on.
No more taxes. None of these have done what they are “supposed” to. Fat people will be fat. Dumb people will still think they can vote and force intelligence. It just doesn’t work. And for the stupid idea of “lets all make ice tea…” Bite me. Sometimes I am just in the mood for a soda. So to heck with you. And sometimes I’m not home sitting with Leave it to Beaver’s Mom, June, and we actually are going somewhere, or are at work, and want a soda….

NO MORE TAXES

28 Idiocracy February 20, 2014 at 1:46 PM

How bout we tax fat ppl who eat like gluttons. We wouldn’t be having this soda tax talk if some of you parents would grow a pair and get your children into sports or get them off the couch and make them play outside before they start becoming like these Chris Farley stay at home man children types I see everywhere. We are already taxed enough! How about these elected puppets actually open up the gov checkbook and balance it without fleecing us for their mistakes.

29 oldman February 20, 2014 at 1:58 PM

How about a tax on coffee? That will lower the approval. Most people only think of themselves.

30 bumper morgan February 20, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Schools get enough money. Taxing anything doesnt fix behavior. Kids are fat because they are lazy. I’ll fix childhood obesity with one easy solution: turn off the computers and video games. Have your rugrats face the front door. Open the door, and with a swift kick in their fat butts, force them outside. And they do not come home until the street lights are on.

31 iluvfriedchicken February 20, 2014 at 2:13 PM

I say sure. But I don’t drink sodas lol. I mean, we tax cigarettes for the same reasons.

I don’t think it would deter soda abuse. But maybe it will pay for some of the medical costs for diseases caused by soda. So, tax it!

32 Anon February 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

No on soda taxes for Claycord.

33 Anon2you February 20, 2014 at 2:16 PM

I must be in the 33% who disagree! Which seems like 100% of Claycodians

34 Craig February 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Idiocracy, I’ve never been overweight, and either is anyone in my family. We eat healthy, and exercise regularly. I was an athlete in high school and college, and to this day, I continue to eat healthy and stay active. It’s very important to me.

That being said, your mindset is mind blogging. You’re very immature.

Focus on your own life and you’ll be happier. The “food police” should be against your better judgment.

Education is the answer.

As far as the tax, it doesn’t matter. I prefer water over soda. I’ll leave this one to others.

35 Just me February 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Add “for the children” and any tax gets approved.

Why? Because people are idiots.

36 mutts February 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM

No more taxes on anything.

37 Coco February 20, 2014 at 2:26 PM

What is next, Starbucks and their sugary Frap’s with whip cream.

38 no_pc_bs February 20, 2014 at 2:26 PM

let’s tax the politicians an extra 10% of their income for the first 2 years, 20% in the following two years and 90% for every additional year in the political office.
Do not worry about those poor bastards: they are earning plenty of tax-free income under the table in the so called consultant fees.
Let’s also impose a 5% tax on every new meaningless legislation they propose and get approved.
Long live nanny state!

39 Dorothy February 20, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Unless the tax law is written with NO wriggle room for it to be used for anything else and no way to be diverted into the general funds, I would vote for no new taxes.

40 Just me February 20, 2014 at 2:28 PM

@ Erin

By that thought then coffee, tea, Milk, Oj, apple juice heck any juice should be taxed as well. Since you don’t need them for your vitamins or anything. There’s other ways to get your vitamins. Like pills

Also beef, chicken, pork, fish. All should be taxed. Because you don’t need to eat that as well. you can survive off tofu and vegetables.

But hey, corn, celerey might as well get taxed as well since they hold no real nutritional value either.

There’s a bigger picture to this than just soda

41 RanchgirlCA February 20, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Taxing cigarettes isn’t quite the same. They cause cancer to everyone, not just those who smoke. Second hand smoke does the rest of us in too. Deterring use is for the greater good of everyone. Whether one person drinks a soda doesn’t affect anyone other than the person drinking them. Why not make people with unhealthy habits pay higher insurance (smokers pay higher insurance thru my job)? I just don’t agree with this at all. That being said, I’m not a big soda drinker, but when I want one I shouldn’t have to pay more because of anothers poor habits.

42 VikingPrincess February 20, 2014 at 2:36 PM

#8
Agree completely. Needs to stop.

43 Cliff Williams February 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM

I am for a tax on legal MJ. Let people smoke it up and we could have nice infrastructure, schools..etc. I rarely drink soda and do not use any drugs, but a coffee tax would t me off. The prices do not go back down when wholesale prices fall….

44 Elwood February 20, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Tax everything. If it moves tax it. If it doesn’t move, tax it more.

Got a letter from my buddy Barack today. Wanted to know if I still have his back. Asked for money. What else is new?

45 TOB February 20, 2014 at 3:07 PM

I very much doubt 67% statewide said yes. Just the liberal socialist in some Bay Area communities perhaps in some LA areas who always speak out. Why does the minority who speak out get what they want. Example protest.. Lets say 100,000 people. Millions more are not there so why does 100k of people mouthing off get rewarded.. Stop raising our kids. Let parents parent good or bad. Whether they have a burger or a salad, tea or soda that freedom to choose “WAS” America.

We need less government more parenting. Address the problem not the symptoms. Maybe instead of spending on these things they should redirect funds to educate parents. Look at smoking took 15-20 yrs of media but worked. So to could better parenting. Stop taking our choices away and inventing more taxes. Want more tax move to Europe.

46 Nanny Taxes February 20, 2014 at 3:08 PM

All the government agencies are looking for is additional money, most of which doesn’t end up where it was supposed to go.
Marijuana is becoming more and more popular to be legal beyond “Medical Use” by the states because of the great amount of money that can be generated by taxing it, even though it is a federally restricted substance.
If the government agencies were truly concerned about the drastic effects to the lives they say these things cause, then simply outlaw it, (which they will never do) or let us make our own choices.
As with anything else the governments of the States and Federal do when it comes to these taxes, they are just being hypocritical in saying, “It’s so bad for you we will just over tax it for you to consume”

47 dilligafman February 20, 2014 at 3:24 PM

NO!! WE HAVE TO MANY TAXES ALREADY!!!

48 RANDOM TASK February 20, 2014 at 3:26 PM

really again a tax because the lemmings do not know any better……the dems looking out for you again ……at a small cost of course and for a limited time only they will offer you better schools and lunches and a study on how to better distribute funds from the tax better ……at a little more expense to the tax payer. Wow they just throw it in our faces now as if you do not know your kids should not be drinking soda and eating junk food ………we all know you do it because you don’t want to cook or get up an hour early to actually make sure your kids are drinking water and having nutritious meals …….just shove a happy meal their way and your happy ……..the dems love that mentality it makes em rich….. nice scam if it wasn’t done to such easy marks.

49 Silva February 20, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Rediculous. I choose not to include added sugar in my food & drink, but that’s a simply rediculous idea. I really doubt that’s what 67% of people want.

50 Mimi (original) February 20, 2014 at 3:34 PM

You disagree with someone’s opinion? TAX their opinion!
You think all alcohol is bad for anyone? TAX alcohol (more than now)!
You think all soda is drunk by fat people? TAX soda (then tax fat)!

My gawd – TAX frivolous lawsuits and idiots who procreate because sex is fun! Government has gotten out of hand and into all our personal business! Stop Nanny Government!!

51 Larrabee February 20, 2014 at 3:59 PM

I think we should have a 100%-of-salary tax on any politician who calls for a new tax, or an increase to an existing tax!

52 just a concordian February 20, 2014 at 4:01 PM

I just realized, when I was posting earlier, I was drinking a diet soda. My first one in about 2 months. But then after I finished posting I went out for a smoke. Damn… I am going to hell!

53 nytemuvr February 20, 2014 at 4:14 PM

@Michelle #47
Up the taxes on liquor, red meat, fast food and gas, more people drink, drive and eat fast food than smoke. Tax the lottery players too as it goes to support the schools, not that I guess, as the money goes into the school system. Increased taxes for cigarettes already go to health care too, right?….yeah, how well has that worked?

54 funny man February 20, 2014 at 4:26 PM

yes but how do you use the three sea shells?

55 Mark February 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM

A. Most of the money will not go to where the supporters of the tax think it’s going. It never does. B. Where does it stop? What tax is next? I bet a bunch of people would love to see bacon taxed. C. When the State Lottery was voted in, the claim was public schools would get a bunch of money from the lottery. And they did. School funding from other sources was then reduced. Nice shell game to sell the lottery.

56 Dredge February 20, 2014 at 4:32 PM

We could export fat people as long pork products and make a fortune. And why not? The tax people treat us as cattle as it is.

57 RaD February 20, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Uhhhh…. Does no one realize soda is already taxed in the state of California? All carbonated drinks are.

58 Mark February 20, 2014 at 4:47 PM

It looks like about 7 of 56 posts are for the tax (12.5%).

59 EAST BAY VELO WORKS February 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM

No new tax

60 Just a Kid February 20, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Some people just don’t understand. I think we should tax everything by 900%. And I think the taxes should be due the same day you get paid. Like maybe within the hour. And if you don’t pay on time, you should get a long prison sentence. Like maybe 25 years. And use your Mom and Dad’s money to pay for the attorney. And if you get out and don’t pay your taxes on time, then you should get the death penalty. And your last meal should be one large pizza, no toppings. And they should give you a diet soda to go with it, and it’s ok if those taxes don’t get paid. You can’t take it with you. Even taxes. LOL.

61 concord74 February 20, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Sodas, sugary foods, etc. are not the cause of obesity or other alledged ailments. Try discipline and sef-control plus exercise to maintain or lose weight. Anything but responsibilty and accountability.

62 anon February 20, 2014 at 5:45 PM

this is one more way to sell taxation to voters and the public. Really? what does more money have to do with it..public schools already cover this in health and other classes and parents SHOULD be doing the same. So why would a newer tax change anything on this topic. This is just like the tax on cigarettes to fund education classes for minors. Hello? There are.laws to prevent minors from smoking.Perhaps better enforcement of the laws already in effect, with the funds allotted would be in order. What a concept.
we all need to face the fact that the best intentions lead to additional taxes, setting of
precedences for future taxation, and without reading every letter of legislation there is no way to know how the new funds will ultimately be spent anyway. Stop the out of contr taxation! This is a part of parenting…let it be handled in the home not from outside entities. How about using freeway taxes for better roads…no there will be another sell to voters to pass another highway n roads tax…and then another and the roads don r improve? Have u noticed? Insanity!!

63 Keith February 20, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Well, Just a Kid, welcome to Claycord. Kids say the darndest things.

I don’t know about the 900 percent, but if you’re looking to end the state’s budget problems, you’re heading in the right direction.

Are your parents lawyers?

You’re a very good speller. Claycord could use a few smart kids. Stay in school…..

64 Atticus Thraxx February 20, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Putting aside for a moment whether it’s an appropriate role of government to get all up in our business, I think the people who love that crap won’t stop drinking it and the money won’t go where they claim.

65 Connie Dobbs February 20, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Election day should be moved to April 16th. That is all.

66 KenInConcord February 20, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Mr. Government, what should I have for dinner tonight? The kids appear to be hungry yet I’m confused on the best remedy for this problem.

What, tonight we drink only Kool-Aid?? Ah…. Ok if you say so, I’ll round up the kids…..

What would I do without this support?

67 Phoenyx February 20, 2014 at 6:23 PM

No.

Sodas… I rarely drink them, and when I do I don’t bother with diet because the artificial sweeteners are awful. And don’t get me started on that high fructose corn syrup crap… it’s pure evil. Ask anyone who has to deal with my mood swings if I have too much.

I will take my Jack and Coke without Coke, thank you. Jack Daniel’s gets taxed anyway.

But to tax people who quaff that garbage at an alarming rate? Seems like a great idea, doesn’t it? But it would open the door to taxing more things, in my opinion… that’s the last thing we need.

As an aside, and completely off topic, does anyone remember when they stopped putting the government label across the cap on the booze bottles?

68 Clayton Valley Grad February 20, 2014 at 6:33 PM

I don’t know if alcoholism is the answer……

69 Always Right February 20, 2014 at 6:40 PM

I support taxes on all products I never buy, businesses I never patronize, and politicians I never vote for.

70 RIII February 20, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Makes no difference if it’s a soda, a cigarette, a case of beer, a bottle of wine, a gallon of gas or anything else we purchase, what difference does it make? Show me a politician who cannot spend every dollar in sight and look for more. Our cities, our counties and our state is broke and the solution is not more taxes, it’s less spending. Consider how many people there are on the payroll today! It’s time for some “Hope and Change.” If more taxes made a better society we would all be living in Paradise!

71 Rob February 20, 2014 at 7:07 PM

ed K., SuperMax February 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM
NO.
No one is force-feeding soda and sugary drinks down my throat. I am able to make my own decisions.
NO MORE NANNY TAXES AND NO MORE NANNY LAWS.

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Exactly – no one is forcing you to drink or eat anything – so if you don’t like the tax – guess what – you don’t have to purchase the product and pay the tax – simple isn’t it.

72 WC Resident February 20, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Legalize marijuana and tax that stuff too! I do not indulge in the stuff but a lot of folks do so let the tax begin with that too!! I guess this is off topic but I think taxing our things that hurt us is good. Will give everyone a heads up on what is good for you or not! Also let the funds from the taxes go to the medical bills needed to take care of the morons!! So we do not pay by Medicare, Obama care or any other care!!!

73 anon February 20, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Once you get a tax on soda,where does it go from there? Will candy, ice cream and candy be next? A new Sugar Board will have be created to over see the new tax revenue.

74 Atticus Thraxx February 20, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Simple solution. Tax by weight. April 15th we all line up and get weighed. The more you weigh, the more you pay.

75 Pluto February 20, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Are diet sodas to be taxed or is only the sinful sugary sodas that will be taxed?

76 ClayDen February 20, 2014 at 8:12 PM

No; this is just stupid. But if they do tax it (and with the politicians in California, they probably will), I’m sure they will spend all of the taxes collected in an extremely responsible manner. NOT.

Taxed
Enough
Already?

77 Jim February 20, 2014 at 8:39 PM

More taxes are friggin kidding me?…We are one of the most taxed state in the union and you want more…that’s like drowning and asking for a drink of water…you people are STUPID…where does it end?

78 Huh? February 20, 2014 at 8:55 PM

The more you weigh, the more you pay? Why didn’t I think of that?

I don’t drink soda, but my height and weight are in proportion. I guess that’s all that matters.

79 mika February 20, 2014 at 9:09 PM

More taxes to support more free lunches?

80 nono February 20, 2014 at 9:59 PM

I don’t believe the stated statistic, and vote no no on soda tax. Why pick on soda. How about sugar? Cookies? Candy? How about a calorie quota, Better yet, we can just tax by the calorie? Let’s make it a progressive tax, with some baseline where you get a 100 free calories and get socked when you get into the triple tier?

81 Anon February 20, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Who participated in this poll, the homeless?

82 DLB February 21, 2014 at 4:46 AM

Why tax the public why not the corporate giants making massive profits selling these products? We have been turned into addicts!

83 C.T. February 21, 2014 at 7:22 AM

Ok, I get things are bad for us. But where does it end? As these places go out of business because no one can afford it, will jobs be lined up for those out of work? And where do people think taxes will come from next? One by one we get rid of what’s “bad”, then be surprised when in the end it will fall back on us.

84 RIII February 21, 2014 at 8:07 AM

A tax is just a redistribution of other people’s money, the first thing our politicians attempt to do is find some problem and then they attempt to regulate it by putting a tax on it. Some seem to think it’s “OK” if we call it a sin tax. Others fall into line when it’s to “Help the Children.” Then, there is always something for the schools. Listening to “Our” representatives, everything can be solved by another tax. How about just managing the taxes we already pay?

85 gov't greed February 21, 2014 at 8:33 AM

How many times do we have to get tricked by local officials. Maybe 5% of the money is going to schools while 95% goes to their pockets. I am all for a healthier lifestyle for our kids, how about you don’t allow your kids to drink soda like I do. Their is no accountability or watchdog making sure the funds are appropriately used.

86 Jacknife February 21, 2014 at 8:39 AM

I am so tired of being Taxed Taxed and retaxed.

87 Jacknife February 21, 2014 at 8:39 AM

@87 WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!

88 Pied February 21, 2014 at 8:52 AM

I don’t support any new taxes. And if any of the money really did make it to the school system you can bet it would go to administrators and would have zero positive impact on the students themselves.

89 nytemuvr February 21, 2014 at 9:30 AM

@Michelle #61
For one thing, more people smoke than they admit to (PC closet smokers) and cigarettes are sold all over the world. Someone is buying them. It was our first crops when the pilgrims came over as Great Britain was taxing the crap on it along with every thing else. Funny how history repeats itself. California and a couple of other nanny states have no smoking laws, most don’t. Sheeple here believe wholeheartedly those stupid anti-smoking commercials. Just wasted 5 minutes writing to ignorant anti-smoking people, I said I wasn’t going to do that anymore….guess not, raises the hackles on my neck. Thread is about soda anyway.

90 Idiocracy February 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM

#34 Craiiig,
Immature? Your a meatball. I never asked you about your life that you felt compelled to share with me and the rest of us like we care Mr. “I think im special” and apparently smarter than me pff lol. If you don’t like my perspective then don’t read my posts. 2nd You don’t know anything about me. Cut the self righteous im so special dance bud. I post serious stuff and try and fun on here on my downtime at work while your probably a Stay at home dad loser named Craig lol

91 Idiocracy February 21, 2014 at 11:04 AM

and try and have fun geez

92 The Truth Hurts February 21, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Idiocracy, every post of yours is VERY IMMATURE. Immature people are very annoying. You’ve never posted anything serious on Claycord. You lack the ability as well as the intellect.

You’re worse than Atticus. At least he’s funny.

93 Dr. Jellyfinger® February 21, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Wow! I got off easy.

94 Anderson February 21, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Absolutely not. This needs to be addressed at the federal level, and is only one symptom of a much larger problem whereby farmers’ efforts are channelled via subsidies and other means toward growing vast quantities of corn which is then rammed into every possible food and other industrial niche people can dream up; HFCS is a good example of what needs to go away completely. The end result encourages production of cheap calories and peoples’ food choices dominated by artificially cheap imitation food products (remember those subsidies) such as soda, fast food, junk food, and so many others of the choices available in supermarkets. We need to start removing practices like this and encourage instead the production of healthier food choices. Eliminate all subsidies, and quit using taxation as a behavior modification tool, especially when, as others are also pointing out, we can never trust where and how that tax revenue is used.

Fat chance…

95 Idiocracy February 21, 2014 at 1:08 PM

95
Really? Like your some sort of Sage on Claycord? Don’t flatter yourself. I’m immature for saying parents need to get their kids to go play outside? Lol ok. Guess what though? Like I told the other uppity lemming living in La La land, you don’t have to read what I say. BTW do you get dark humor or dry humor? I take it you wouldn’t know the dif. Do us a favor don’t procreate.

96 Custer February 21, 2014 at 2:13 PM

No. We aren’t children. We dont need
government making our decisions for
us and then taxing us for it. People have
to accept responsibility for their own actions
and learn how to take care of themselves
making decisions that are in their own best
interests. A similar proposal passed a few
years ago relative to smoking and the
money raised was diverted to other uses
than those originally proposed in the
proposition put to the voters.

97 RunDogRun February 21, 2014 at 2:38 PM

I knew a guy who had a soda in his hand
24/7 and he was skinny as a rail. So, it’s
not sugary drinks … it’s something else.

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