Two Injured During Morning Double-Shooting in Concord

January 25, 2014 15:29 pm · 105 comments

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A shooting in Concord early this morning left two people with gunshot wounds.

The crime occurred just after midnight on Lani Kai Dr., which is off Oakmead Dr. near Cowell & Galindo.

One person was shot in the arm and the other was shot in the stomach. Their condition is currently unknown.

The suspects are described as two black males in their teens or late-20s, both were wearing all black and one had a ski mask. The weapons used were a shotgun and a black semi-automatic handgun.

1 Antonio January 25, 2014 at 3:39 PM

I hope they find these nice, young well educated gentlemen.

Remember, people are innocent until proven guilty.

I can’t believe I’m typing this. Get the f**k outta here!

2 dudebro January 25, 2014 at 3:41 PM

ie 1 block from police station?

3 anon January 25, 2014 at 3:45 PM

No hoodies?

4 Anonymous January 25, 2014 at 3:55 PM

These certain folk need to be banned from concord problem solved

5 Who cares January 25, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Wonder if this is gang related? Were they Mexican who got shot?

6 dilligafman January 25, 2014 at 4:24 PM

what the f@#k is happening to this town? this ain’t O-town!!! shut down the tunnels and post armed guards! i grew up here(50s&60s) used to be a great city. identify the perps and SHOOT ON SIGHT!!!!!

7 anon January 25, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Is 2014 the year Concord officially lost its non-ghetto status?

8 Richardsfamily January 25, 2014 at 5:00 PM

These apartments are subsidized housing, which is usually where crime happens.

9 anonymous January 25, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Concord is becoming trash! Earlier my step father waved hello at a guy he
thought he knew and the little hoodlum tried to fight him… Really!? I can not wait to get out of this ghetto nasty city!

10 JLG January 25, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Starting to get like Oak town.

11 carebear January 25, 2014 at 5:14 PM

there was a 211 on laguna as well. I hope the city as well and CPD really start to crack down in the Monument area. They can start with the prostitutes, pimps, gangs and cartel that are hangout in the laguna ellis area.

12 Horse'n Around January 25, 2014 at 5:15 PM

It’s getting harder and harder to not racial profile!

13 Ted K., SuperMax January 25, 2014 at 5:20 PM

This is exactly what “affordable housing”, Section 8 housing, so-called “income equality”, and generally uneducated persons brings to what was once a nice, safe place to live.

There are certain places those of low income, low education, lack of language skills, and thuggy behavior should not live. No, it’s not racial profiling … If the shoe fits, that’s what they wear.

14 This guy January 25, 2014 at 5:20 PM

I agree with Dilligafman, lived here a long time too.
Forget being politically correct and sensitive to there issues and all that b.s.
Look where that’s got us!

15 me January 25, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Was it right next to 7eleven?

16 Elwood January 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM

The thugs had a shotgun and a semi-automatic pistol and were unable to kill their targets?

Must be some genetic inability to shoot straight.

17 Funny clown January 25, 2014 at 6:00 PM

@elwood hAhahahA maybe they should go to the shooting range more often

Im surprised this hasent happened before in that area, ive personally seen some real suspicious stuff happen around that area in the past.

18 in case you wondered January 25, 2014 at 6:29 PM

It’s that the old bombed out areas in West Oakland are turning over from the destitute and hopeless underclass of yesterday into upper middle class who aren’t to scared anymore and showed up en masse and displaced them.

19 Sawyer January 25, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Concord is nothing like Oakland. That’s just ludicrous…look at crime stats. There are some areas that have more issues then others and it’s a big town but to say it’s becoming anything even remotely resembling Oakland is like saying my uncles 24 foot cabin cruiser is the same as the Titanic because it got a leak. It’s just hyperbole gone way to far. Focusing on reality is serious enough.

20 in case you wondered January 25, 2014 at 7:12 PM

So, people are starting to shoot at other people a lot, but it’s not Oakland!

21 Always Right January 25, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Memo to CPD: Stop and Frisk. Stop and Frisk. Stop and Frisk.

Just assume any male between the ages of 15-30, regardless of race, who is walking or loitering around during school hours or after 7:00 PM is up to no good. Stop them for any reason you can and determine if they are carrying drugs, weapons, burglary tools, etc.

22 Wondering January 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

@Sawyer
We are not like Oakland. But when do we cross the line? It is getting worse by the day. What can and should we do to keep from being that?
We did not have shootings here not too long ago and now they are becoming more frequent.

23 in case you wondered January 25, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Da horse lef da barn.

24 VikingPrincess January 25, 2014 at 8:32 PM

This is an unusual event. CPD were busy – coffee probably didn’t even get poured..but not sure of the change of shift

Mayor, please update as you learn. I think a good number of us are hoping this was random outsider behavior.

Good for CPD!

25 Richardsfamily January 25, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Damn you negative nellies are way to dramatic, Concord is nothing like Oakland nor will it ever be, and don’t lie and say it’s getting worse everyday cause if you look at the crime statistics is not even close. Yes it’s bad that these idiots are doing this and we all hope they get caught. But please being so “end of the world” and those Anon’s reallyyou probably don’t even live here anyway because if you did you would know that Concord is a great place to live. Now let us help CPD catch these idiots.

26 anon January 25, 2014 at 8:49 PM

@#23 and is not coming back.

27 JLG January 25, 2014 at 8:59 PM

I witnessed the same beginnings in Oakland when I lived their cheap guns on the black market young kids that did not care about the consequences of their actions. Then more and more young people trying to emulate the gangsters.

28 RANDOM TASK January 25, 2014 at 9:03 PM

concord becoming trash ……wow where have you been …city council and crooked politicians have given us up to the scum years ago ……have you been to the sunvalley mall…….better yet how bout the Pittsburgh thing they call a mall ( it is empty ) as in bart brings the thugs right to our front doors …..they city has plundered us so bad no police and you think criminals are stupid ….they see no cops and they do their business. biggest problem is you do not realize how many years it will take to get this city back if at all possible ..because once a city goes to the wolves the sheep move and the city falls ……..great work council destroyed another city with your ignorance ……you will make great dem candidates though ..plow through what ever city to line your pockets

29 VikingPrincess January 25, 2014 at 9:08 PM

:0 :) ;)

30 john jackson January 25, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Uh oh from Oakland to antioch now there coming to concord!

31 Kent January 25, 2014 at 9:19 PM

You can always push yourself to succeed. Further your education, make more money, and move to a nicer city.

People do it on a daily basis.

32 eric January 25, 2014 at 9:27 PM

A big “Thank You” and “Amen” to those of you that posted and showed your intelligence by disagreeing that Concord is anywhere close to the crime/problems of Oakland. I posted last week about how ignorant and wasteful those kind of comments are to anyone. Those making such negative comments must have very pathetic and boring lives to even waste the time to write such things. What good does that do? Does it improve our society? I would have to believe it does not. Yes, Concord has problems but the crime stats prove that it is a relatively safe city according to the population size. The best thing we as citizens can do is try to do our part to better whatever we can in whatever city we live in. It serves no purpose to bash Concord, or any other city for that matter, I prefer to put my effort in being a better person, husband, father, neighbor, friend and resident of Concord than I was the day before. I challenge those that are wasting everyone’s time with their negative comments to instead do something productive for your family, friends, neighbors, city, local school etc.. I hope some of you actually put some thought into that. Thanks!

33 ANON January 25, 2014 at 9:31 PM

“Memo to CPD: Stop and Frisk. Stop and Frisk. Stop and Frisk.”

It will be seen as racial. There was a Concord cop that they fired for being racial…all BS & they hired them back as he caught loads of Hispanics on Monument without insurance/licenses..just like in ‘Nam where you can’t really do what need to be done

34 BCuzItzClaycord January 25, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Richardfamily #25 – enjoy the bubble you live in. Concord is getting worse just like Antioch turned from a decent middle/working class town to complete Ghetto Trash……………your wonderful city keeps adding “low income” (section 8/welfare) housing and all that brings is the Ghetto Trash from Richmond and Oakland as those cities have run out of Section Ghetto Trash Housing.
Perhaps in the past Concord was great but it is getting crappy pretty damn fast. Oh your little bubble will soon burst and then you will have to deal with reality.

35 Elwood January 25, 2014 at 10:29 PM

It’s 50/50 whether the thugs came here from the East or the West to do their dirty work.

But they could be Concord home grown thugs.

36 Claire January 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Concord is getting worse, but it is nowhere near Oakland or Richmond. We live in WC, and have seen changes as well.

Perhaps you’re better off not reading all the negative news.

The missing animals and charitable causes threads are very worthy. They make a difference.

The happy columns are fun. Garden Girl and the new Arts and Crafts.

You can get out in the community and make a difference. Like volunteering for a worthy cause.

Help make your community a better place. If you find your city undesirable, you can always move.

37 Forest's Mama January 25, 2014 at 11:09 PM

It’s not Concord that is the problem. It’s the spacepeople that gravitate there to see Forest Gump’s birthplace

38 The Duellist January 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

This nonsense has to stop. Period.

39 DZL January 26, 2014 at 1:03 AM

I’ve lived in Concord for 27 years and the only that scares me is the amount of ignorance I see in the comment section on claycord. Remember children, as long as you hide behind your computer, you’ll be safe. Self righteous d-bags oughta be ashamed of yourselves. You fear what you don’t understand and blame other people for your problems. I’ve lived and worked near monument for 7 years now, what I see are PEOPLE and FAMILIES. I walk up and down detroit and meadow nearly every single day. I used to live on adelaide. Never had a problem, you know why? Its about respect.
I once had a neighbor who said that white people are diseased, I’m beginning to think she’s right. Get your head on straight. You’re a sad slob of a human being just like the rest us and you’re no better than anyone else.

40 Richardsfamily January 26, 2014 at 2:34 AM

BCuzItzClaycord, I live here, as do many friends and family live here so I actually know what I am talking about. You just a read a blog and like chicken little think the sky is falling, well it’s not. Concord is not Antioch either, that fact that compare the 2 tells everyone here that you know nothing that goes on in town. So you are better off just observing rather than commenting. Like another poster said read the statistics. Get the Concord chip off your shoulder

41 The Authority January 26, 2014 at 2:49 AM

Why was there no CPD officer on that street? I see them driving around in their cars, but they should be foot patrolling on Lani Kai Drive at midnight. That’s the argument that is always made about BART P.D. If a crime happens in the parking lot, “why were they in the station?” If it happens in the station, “Why are they in the cars, driving around?” Perhaps soon, some will figure out that officers of ALL of our local agencies are doing the best they can to patrol their beats BETWEEN calls for service, but there are not enough officers to be everywhere at all times. If low lives like these shooters want to commit violence, they will find a way and a place. As far as our politician friends and their policies: Building more low income and subsidized housing does not raise up those in our lower economic class, it just encourages other towns’ problems to come here. It also discourages upward mobility. And if you think running rails to your town is a net plus, think again. It allows the dregs who don’t drive, easy access to your community. Be careful what you wish for, Brentwood, Warm Springs and San Jose…

42 Russ January 26, 2014 at 5:53 AM

I am getting the sense that you all basically want to lock anybody up that isn’t a blogger here. Works for me.

43 Anonymous January 26, 2014 at 5:56 AM

Oh for Petes sake. Two clowns shoot each other and the world is ending, this could well have been a corn snake hunt gone bad.

44 Meth Monster January 26, 2014 at 6:42 AM

It’s all crank related!!!

45 Sick of Politics January 26, 2014 at 6:52 AM

Bring back the open carry of handguns for the citizens who can pass the background checks and any qualifications they need to pass.

Or better yet, may it easier to concealed carry, that would be best!!!

Armed citizens will drive the crime out, and for free too!

We know where they live and what they do, we notify the police regarding their actions, does anything get done? NO….

Its time for vigilantes and the good people to push out the bad!!!

Armed community patrols by a few volunteers!!!

46 Silva January 26, 2014 at 6:56 AM

It would be a fresh idea to see PART police at stations and not driving around city streets and freeways. Unless of course you ran into one with an itchy trigger finger.

47 Silva January 26, 2014 at 6:56 AM

*BART

48 Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 7:44 AM

Great post Claire!!! I have lived in this area for 30+ years and I too have seen a shift.This is what happens when people live in poverty plain & simple. Why not blame the property owners who rent to individuals who are unsavory? There is a real problem when landlords are not willing to step up & enforce rental agreements that are violated. You want to clean up Concord, hold landlords accountable for the conditions and people they rent to.

49 Southern Man January 26, 2014 at 7:58 AM

Back home, we knew how to deal with folk like that. Certain kinds of people shouldn’t be allowed to live in a decent town.

50 @Elwood January 26, 2014 at 7:59 AM

They’re the wrong hue to be from around here. We need to keep it that way.

51 anon January 26, 2014 at 8:12 AM

Without Claycord.com reporting criminal activities, the average person would think Concord doesn’t have any crime at all.

52 Henny Penny January 26, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Concord has a murder or two a year. Oakland about a hundred. Concord voters approve tax increase to fund more cops, Oakland voters rejects tax. Is there a message here?

53 Vladimir Lenin January 26, 2014 at 9:08 AM

This is a direct result of liberal thinking and socialist behavior, nobody is accountable for their behavior.

54 Fig Newton January 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM

It’s the end of the month,,EBT is running short,,,,,,,,,,,,,,these guys needed a little to get them thru,,,They smoke those Electronic cigs,,need fuel for the 99 Lexus on 28’s,,,, and new $399.00 white shoes!!!!!!!!!!!!! plus their mama needs formula for the baby,, I hate to see them go with out the handouts!

55 Happ January 26, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Nowhere on this side of the hills is close to Oakland or Richmond crime stats wise. But the continuing problem those cities have does push people to do what they can to try and keep their kids away from it by moving to whereever they can afford. Section 8 brings single (usually moms) to areas they hope are safer and have better services, ie schools, stores. Unfortunately baby daddy’s usually follow and bring their issues and if the kids are older they already have the thug mentality so it’s too late.
Yes we have our own homegrown thugs that have always been here but at a scale that most of us didn’t really notice.

I lived in Oakland in the early 70’s then Hayward and watched each area go down hill. I had family in Pitt and they moved to Antioch to avoid it but then it exploded there too. I know first hand low income housing and Section 8 speeds up the growth of the downhill slide. Unfortunately cities that say no to low income or Section 8 housing get drilled by the government so most most except it or loss big $$$.

Anyone that does not see that once it starts it grows like a weed is blind.

I don’t have the answers just what I’ve witnessed. My answer is moving once I’m retired and kids are done with school but that’s me. I hope my observations aren’t correct cause I love this area and would hate to see it become a what is on the other side of the hills – in either direction

56 Anonamouse January 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM

A few nooses could solve all these problems if they are used in the right way.

57 Jose January 26, 2014 at 11:00 AM

@Pro Fi,

What kind of people do you think landlords shouldn’t rent to? How are landlords supposed to know which potential tenants are unsavory? Certainly, you can’t be suggesting that they base their judgement on the way people look, can you?

58 Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 11:03 AM

QWOW! Good to see racism alive and well in Claycord…
Stay Classy

59 Diane January 26, 2014 at 11:06 AM

I’ve never been poor (comfortable middle class), but there are poor people with values, and poor people without values.

To lump all poor people together is extremely discriminatory. It furthers oppression, and hurts everybody.

I don’t know this, but my guess would be that poor people with values are the ones who are refusing help. I don’t know if that’s for the better or worse. You can’t starve your kids.

EDUCATION IS THE ANSWER!

60 Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Not at all Jose…. I think if tenants break the law they should be evicted..plain and simple. I think 90% of people living in the Monument corridor are decent hardworking folks. I was saying that there is a lot that happens that landlords turn a blind eye to and they are never held accountable. And the conditions of some of those places is awful. You want to stop crime… give people decent affordable housing and the muscle to police others. No one complains when they take the rent check to the bank. Fine property owners for allowing sh&t to happen on their properties…. bet that takes care of the problem quick!

61 @Jose January 26, 2014 at 11:20 AM

A landlord can do a criminal background check and a credit check. That filters out most of the real problem tenants. Also, responsible landlords don’t take Section 8 recipients, since getting section 8 indicates a long term commitment to being poor.

62 mm January 26, 2014 at 11:27 AM

ya assimilate 13 million people and then be surprised that the cultural acceptance of crime and corruption swings towards those peoples countries of origin.
Add in the brilliant cut backs to local law enforcement and the current decline in social prosperity is inevitably and unfortunately just going to continue.
import more sheep for taxing. as long as everybody that comes to this beautiful land to have an opportunity is play and paying on the same level as those who have come before them and are currently still here as the engine that drives this economic train wreck of a country. USA USA

63 Time to start teaching marksmanship in the schools January 26, 2014 at 12:47 PM

it would result in fewer innocent bystanders being shot, and less half-dead vermin.

64 Larry January 26, 2014 at 1:48 PM

@Jose~~~~62

I don’t know anything about Section 8, but I understand real estate. A lot landlords are more than willing to accept Section 8 because it’s guaranteed payment.

Just because you’re making good money and have excellent credit doesn’t mean you’ll pay your rent on time. It’s not what you make, it’s what you do with it.

People with good income and excellent credit are usually homeowners anyway. I have rental properties, and don’t allow Section 8.

Every person or family I rent to is a CRAP SHOOT! There are no guarantees. Not in this economy anyway

65 Robin Gibson January 26, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Well my parents managed the complex and I was Assistant manager and this kind of thing never happened when we there there for 20yrs. After it was sold to these people it went downhill quick. Find and ban them from OUR town.

66 @Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Very well put.

67 @DZL January 26, 2014 at 3:22 PM

What in heavens name are you talking about and who are you addressing ?if you assume people you don’t agree with are white and white people are “diseased” then I guess I understand why you are an

Idiot

68 Jose January 26, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Larry,
I’m glad to see that somebody understands.

69 BCuzItzClaycord January 26, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Jose – accepting Section 8 rentals is not mandated by law. Landlords are not required to rent to those on assisted housing aka Section 8. The problem is that in California it accepted by all the people can be several generations on welfare/gov’t assistance. It is the “family business”.
Concord is ill equipt to handle it’s size. The city leaders along with way to many of the residents live in a bubble and thinks things are just rosy. The cracks are appearing and there needs to be quick action to keep things for getting worse. the public policy in Concord and most of CC County is a joke. All the leaders have their heads in the sand (or somewhere else).
Their ideas of dealing with issues is throw more money out there for “touchy feely” programs rather than address the problem. Add to that the “low income/affordable housing” that is scheduled for the CNWS and things will only get worse.
Richardsfamily – what the hell are you going to do when the shootings come to your neighborhood??? And don’t think they won’t. The mentality of these people is they will do what they want, where they want and when they want. I have a masters in Public Policy so I know way more than you ever will. I suggest you get off you butt and go look at Concord’s master plan for high density housing. Simply put take gov’t funding (HUD moneis) for anything and a city MUST build high density/;low income housing. The smaller cities and towns that do not accept the funding will not have the issues that are coming Concords way. FYI – Lafayette is run by idiots who accepted HUD funding so they too will not have all the issues that come with high density/low income house. Soon there will be no escape from it in the Bay Area……………….Oh you folks are soooo lucky….NOT!!!!!

70 Richardsfamily January 26, 2014 at 4:32 PM

BCuzItzClaycord,

The conversation is not about limiting low income housing etc, I am 100 percent in agreement with limiting it as much as possible and I know about the 25 percent “subsidized housing” that will be going into the base. My neighborhood (East Sun Terrace Neighborhood Association) argued against so much free housing I attended many of the meetings myself.

My beef is that you are right now acting like the world is falling apart for Concord complaining that we are like Oakland and Antioch, get real we are not. Being over dramatic and trying to scare people is dumb.

P.S this is the Bay Area, everyone has a degree, so flaunting it around here is like telling people you graduated high school, big whoop.

71 BCuzItzClaycord January 26, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Richrdsfamily – let me clarify that first off I am not originally from the Bay Area and secondly not may obtain masters degrees as they take extra time and work….something I am sure you were not wiling to do. I’m glad you enjoy clerking at Target. We need people like you to serve other.
Also my masters is in Public Policy and what is happening in Concord is do to shoddy public policy not just in Concord but in California. I’m just grateful we will be leaving this crappy state in May and returning to what people call “God’s Country” where the hills and trees are green, there are no spare the air days, streets are clean and not full of physical trash (all of California is on the dirty side) and public housing is not in every community as we still believe that people need to earn living the “good life”.

72 Sweat pea January 26, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Some people are happier than others. Ignore people who are always negative. They’re very draining.

Hang out on the “happy threads!” Garden Girl, Sunrise/Sunset pictures, Arts and Crafts.

Enjoy!

73 @post 72 January 26, 2014 at 5:48 PM

@aclutzconcord, post 72. Your post is furthur proof
that a higher education is often wasted on some,
or lost on others. You should be embarrassed .

74 Anonymous January 26, 2014 at 6:04 PM

@bclutz.

There is no such thing as a masters in Public Policy.Nice try Sweet pea.

75 Sweat pea January 26, 2014 at 6:39 PM

@Anonymous—–75

First of all, it’s Sweat pea, not Sweet pea. Secondly, I can honestly say I’m not blutz..

I don’t agree with Because it’s Claycord. I was saying that person is always negative, and I was suggesting happier posts.

I find people who are always negative very draining.

I will stick to my original thought and try to keep people on happier threads.

And I agree with you that there is no such thing as a Master’s in Public Policy. Not when I was in college anyway.

My husband and I live in Walnut Creek, but I grew up in Concord.

I’m an RN, and I really enjoy nursing. My Mom was an RN as well……

76 mtzman January 26, 2014 at 6:40 PM

@Anonymous #75, what in the world are you talking about? Lots of universities offer degree programs in public policy, including masters degrees, like UC Berkeley, Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Cornell, and USC to name just a few. Nice try, sour puss …

77 Anonymous January 26, 2014 at 7:06 PM

@sweet pea. I wasn’t aiming at you . My post was probably put up at the same time as yours. Never saw sweet pea before I posted. I was aiming at the phony who can’t spell who makes up degrees. He is a sad case .

78 Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 7:15 PM

There is such a post-grad degree in Public Policy and it can be earned at quite a few respected schools. With that said, I would never state what my credentials are on Claycord. But I do agree, at MOST schools post-graduate work is tough and it is nothing like the undergrad experience.

79 Cowellian January 26, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Just because you’ve never heard of something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

80 Anonymous January 26, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Dear bclutz

I counted 10 gramatical errors and one non existent degree in your posts. The shot about someone working at Target was priceless. When you leave please keep posting .You are a hoot!

81 Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 7:26 PM

To those of you that think that immigration is the problem… take a look at the turn of the last century. Immigrants have always been the scapegoats for social problems.. in this country and many others. Not all Europeans came thru Ellis Island and were documented. And there were social & legal policies in place that prevented Irish; Jews; Italians & Germans (just to name a few) to work or participate in society at various points in history.

You want everyone to work? Bring back serious ROP & VoTech education into the high schools. Train young people and allow them the opportunity to lean a trade. Stop telling your kids they have to go to college. A good percentage don’t want to be there. Be proud of your children whether they are a doctor or a PG&E Lineman/person.

And stop blaming others for the problems we all create.

82 Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 7:59 PM

@ BCuzItzClaycord – I just have to say… your comments about Target clerks was pretty darn offensive. I really hope as someone dealing in Public Policy that was a momentary lapse.Furthermore… I am not a native-Californian and I would love to return to the Keystone State when I am able. With that said, you live where you live and came here for a reason. No one forced you to come or stay. So STFU and move on or post more thoughtful responses that exhibit the level of education you claim to have.

83 Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM

OOOO and even God agrees…. Spare the Air in Montana – http://flathead.mt.gov/environmentalhealth/burning.php

84 Frank L. January 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM

@ Pro Fi……82

Stop telling your kids they have to go to college? We’ll have to agree to disagree. Education is very important if you want a career. It’s also a necessity.

But I will agree that you should be proud of your kids regardless.

Not all kids belong in college. If you didn’t do well academically, you will struggle in college. If you’re not ready for college, you should wait. If you don’t have a career in mind, you will be frustrated.

I couldn’t wait to go off to college, and either could all of our kids who are grown. But I had friends who didn’t want to be there, and they dropped out.

Kids should not be in college to please their parents.

College, trade school, the military, etc. Anything with a future, depending on the kid.

85 Pablo January 26, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Ah ha, mtz man /aka bclutz , sucked you out didn’t we?. Nice try using two names. Knew that would jack you up and I only have a GED, but I know the difference between do and due. Let me know when you come into my Target, I can get you the snooty discount.

86 BCuzItzClaycord January 26, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Pro Fi -we are here on a temporary assignment which thank God is ending. We have lived in Virginia, Ohio and here and our home state is Washington and this area is the absolute worst we have lived in. And to be fair it is not just Concord but the entire Bay Area. Local government is bad, education is bad and the level of welfare programs is through the roof……….ROP and Vocation Ed will not solve the problem because it is too easy for those in this area that refuse to work to get hand outs. You wonderful county DOES NOT comply with the “Five years for life” on welfare. They hand out waivers like toilet paper. Why go to work when one can pop out a kid get AFDC, WIC, Federal Food Assistance, Section 8 and other aide, drive a Mercedes buy expensive electronics and live in the same type of dwellings that people who go to work everyday work in??? That is what you see all over Concord and the Bay Area. People actually leave other states and come to CA as the assistance benefits are the highest in the US and easiest to get, plus a person is never kicked off.
California is screwed up as a whole and sadly Concord is just following in line, I will agree ethnicity has nothing to do with this as if one looks there are as many, if not more whites scamming the system as people of “color”

For the record I have told people in other area to log on to Claycord as it has some of the best comedy around. It just adds to the joke California is.

87 Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 8:40 PM

@ Frank L.
Thank you for expressing my thoughts more eloquently then I could originally. We do agree that some kids just don’t want/aren’t ready for college. My original post did not convey my thoughts well… I apologize.

I deal with these students on a daily basis. The overwhelming stress and despair some feel is extremely sad. The majority of those students come from homes where at least one parent has a college education. Students, like myself, who are the first in their families to attend college have other issues to work through.

I think higher education is more then a career path, it can be a life altering experience in very positive ways. I wish more students went for the joy of learning and not just the expectation of a 6 figure income at the end of four years.

88 Pro Fi January 26, 2014 at 9:01 PM

@ BCuzItzClaycord – “I will agree ethnicity has nothing to do with this as if one looks there are as many, if not more whites scamming the system as people of “color””. Thank you for stating that. My biggest issue with your posts is I felt as though you were singling out certain groups… I am a sociologist :-)
I do agree that California does have its’ problems. But in all fairness… you are used to living in a very different world then you find here. Being from the East Coast myself I see why you hold the opinions you do. The Bay Area is a microcosm in its’ own right. Life is not like this in other places and it creates a culture shock of sorts. Best wishes and I hope you all get home safe!

89 Anon January 26, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Yo bclutz

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass. And learn to spell.

90 Cowellian January 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Well, this doesn’t happen often, but I mostly agree with Frank L. But like Pro Fi commented, I think we need a lot more vocational education, especially at the secondary school level.

91 Anonymous January 26, 2014 at 9:31 PM

B clutz hopefully will transfer to Mississippi . This will raise the collective IQs in Mississippi and California.

92 Julie January 26, 2014 at 10:24 PM

@ Frank L…..(85)

The softer side of Frank! I love it. Very well said. What a great Dad.

I don’t know this, but I think Frank is very successful, and I think he blogs from work when he’s stressed out. Beats a “liquid lunch” which is not uncommon for very successful people, or some people in general.

It’s Sunday night, and he’s probably at home. People are more themselves when they’re relaxed.

93 Elwood January 26, 2014 at 11:25 PM

@ bcuzitzclaycord

Don’t let the door hit you in the *** on the way out.

Your departure will raise the IQ of California and the state you are going to.

94 @DZL January 26, 2014 at 11:26 PM

What are you talking about? I know, you drank the cool aid!

95 Sabrina January 27, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Bcuzitzclaycord is just a very unhappy person. Happiness comes from within, and it has nothing to do with geographical location.

I’m not a psychiatrist, but this sounds like someone dealing with SEVERE DEPRESSION.

I’m against scamming the system as well, but that happens everywhere.

My question is why are people so focused on AFDC, Food Stamps, and Section 8?

Unless it’s part of your life, QUIT THINKING ABOUT IT!

96 anon January 27, 2014 at 12:23 AM

Please, all posting here must really read the Opinion piece in today’s New York Times entitled, “What Drives Success.”

97 anon January 27, 2014 at 12:37 AM

Just a sample of today’s New York Times Opinion piece entitled, “What Drives Success”

“MOST fundamentally, groups rise and fall over time. The fortunes of WASP elites have been declining for decades. In 1960, second-generation Greek-Americans reportedly had the second-highest income of any census-tracked group. Group success in America often tends to dissipate after two generations. Thus while Asian-American kids overall had SAT scores 143 points above average in 2012 — including a 63-point edge over whites — a 2005 study of over 20,000 adolescents found that third-generation Asian-American students performed no better academically than white students.

“The fact that groups rise and fall this way punctures the whole idea of “model minorities” or that groups succeed because of innate, biological differences. Rather, there are cultural forces at work.

“It turns out that for all their diversity, the strikingly successful groups in America today share three traits that, together, propel success. The first is a superiority complex — a deep-seated belief in their exceptionality. The second appears to be the opposite — insecurity, a feeling that you or what you’ve done is not good enough. The third is impulse control.

“Any individual, from any background, can have what we call this Triple Package of traits. But research shows that some groups are instilling them more frequently than others, and that they are enjoying greater success.

“It’s odd to think of people feeling simultaneously superior and insecure. Yet it’s precisely this unstable combination that generates drive: a chip on the shoulder, a goading need to prove oneself. Add impulse control — the ability to resist temptation — and the result is people who systematically sacrifice present gratification in pursuit of future attainment.

“Ironically, each element of the Triple Package violates a core tenet of contemporary American thinking.”

Please read the entire piece. I found it to be thought-provoking and applicable to many of the events we are experiencing in Claycord each week. We have to ask question about what we are allowing culturally to fill the minds and lives of this current generation. If we don’t change the culture we doom the future of all generations.

98 Dave January 27, 2014 at 8:14 AM

I used to live in the apartments across from Lani Kai in the mid 70’s. Wow, how times have changed…

99 VikingPrincess January 27, 2014 at 8:43 AM

@Sabrina #96
Was thinking about that when I read his post. Not sure who he hangs with but I don’t know anyone as he is describing in this area. Got the feeling he may have a job that deals with it and is burned out…not sure.

Trained with a gal a few years back who lived in outskirts of Black hawk. Her job required complicated cases that someone of her expertise could handle. By the time I came around she had a terrible opinion about people in the contra Costa county area. Was very angry.

I had to remind her that the clientele she sees does not represent ALL and she was assigned to difficult cases for obvious reasons (they wouldn’t need her then). She actually gave it some thought.

Not sure if that is bcuzitsclaycords reaso. If not, he might benefit from getting out and meeting others. Go to a local crab feed and meet people.

;)

100 Freakin Irish Mouse, January 27, 2014 at 8:44 AM

is that you? Some posters sound an awful lot alike.

101 The Mamba January 27, 2014 at 9:03 AM

I’m taking bets now on if the guns were legally obtained and registered.

102 Geezer Butler January 27, 2014 at 9:55 AM

BC is just having a bad day. He is usually alright. I think we all have said something that ticks someone else off. Maybe he is frustrated with the b.s that is happening, not just locally but nationally. I’d give him a pass..

103 Wow January 27, 2014 at 10:06 AM

I just hope these two survive, wouldn’t want to already have 2 murders in the books 4 weeks into 2014.

104 @ The Mamba January 27, 2014 at 10:09 AM

According to CPD, illegal aliens can possess unregistered/stolen firearms. So this is a non-issue, for fear of the ACLU will protect them, born here or not. Only law-abiding citizens are to be victimized.
Sorry to spit some fire, Are we now to be told how to feel?

105 Ridiculous January 27, 2014 at 10:11 AM

According to CPD, illegal aliens can possess unregistered/stolen firearms. So this is a non-issue, for fear of the ACLU will protect them, born here or not. Only law-abiding citizens are to be victimized.
Are we to be told how and what to feel?

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