Contra Costa County Announces Three Additional Deaths Linked to Flu

January 22, 2014 15:00 pm · 35 comments

Contra Costa Health Services has confirmed three additional deaths linked to influenza this month, bringing the total number of flu-related deaths of people younger than 65 to five since December in Contra Costa County.

The new cases include a man in his 30s, a man in his 50s and a woman in her 60s. The previous cases involved a woman and a man in their 40s. No other information will be released about these cases.

The following information is from Contra Costa Health Services:

Flu is unpredictable, and flu season can last through March in the Bay Area. Contra Costa Health Services recommends that everyone get a flu vaccine, which is the best way to protect oneself against the disease.

This year’s flu vaccine is available throughout Contra Costa County and provides protection against all of the strains of flu common in California, including H1N1.

Frequent hand-washing and covering coughs and sneezes are also ways to reduce the likelihood of spreading the flu. If you think you might be sick, stay home from work or school, and contact your healthcare provider.

Visit cchealth.org/flu/vaccination.php for more information.

1 Anne Moss January 22, 2014 at 2:05 PM

I really wish they would state whether these people had other underlying health conditions – if so it they should share that information instead of causing irrational fear of a perfectly healthy individual getting the flu and dying.

2 And, of course, there are those who'll say they've never had it January 22, 2014 at 2:06 PM

So, if they are so healthy, why get a shot now. They’ll take extra vitamins or whatever, to strengthen their immune system. Dream on.

3 Clayton Squirrel January 22, 2014 at 2:11 PM

My neighbor was not a fan of flu shots until he caught the flu last month and was sick for weeks. His wife was vaccinated and never caught it. Neighbor has changed his tune about flu vaccines.

4 @ anne moss, #1---That irrational fear is what needs to be feared January 22, 2014 at 2:21 PM

The “perfectly healthy” individuals are the ones who need their flu shot, in order to STAY perfectly healthy, yet so many of them resist, claiming their “perfect health” as the reason NOT to get immunized. Flu immunizations are for everyone, not just the weak/elderly.

5 Antler January 22, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Such a release also should state whether any of the deceased had received flu vaccine this season, and if so…..in what form.

6 Lesley January 22, 2014 at 2:50 PM

H1N1 can take people out who are perfectly healthy and young, who have no underlying health conditions. Not all flu viruses are equal,.

The 1918 flu was a particularly lethal strain of H1N1. It killed 50 million people world wide, maybe as many as 100 million. And we’ve been lucky with fairly less lethal flu strains, but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen again.

Taken from Wikipedia – “Most influenza outbreaks disproportionately kill juvenile, elderly, or already weakened patients; in contrast the 1918 pandemic killed predominantly previously healthy young adults. Modern research, using virus taken from the bodies of frozen victims, has concluded that the virus kills through a cytokine storm (overreaction of the body’s immune system). The strong immune reactions of young adults ravaged the body, whereas the weaker immune systems of children and middle-aged adults resulted in fewer deaths among those groups.”

7 sheep January 22, 2014 at 3:19 PM

I’m good off getting the mind control shot. Thanks though.

8 VikingPrincess January 22, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Questions to smart Claycord.comers

If a person previously contracted the H1N1 and thought it was just a terrible flu – are they immune each year?

9 @sheep, #7---we'll miss you when you're gone. R.I.P. January 22, 2014 at 3:35 PM

.

10 ClayDen January 22, 2014 at 4:00 PM

The vaccine is supposed to be effective about two weeks after you get the shot. I missed it by a week; I got the shot a week ago Monday and got the flu on Sunday. Apparently not a real bad case though, so maybe it helped. I had planned on getting it sooner, but my wife has had an on and off cold since Thanksgiving, and we put it off until we could go together. Will get it early next year.

11 annon January 22, 2014 at 4:02 PM

#9. Total FEAR and PARANOIA. Keep eating garbage and see how well your “immune” system does.
Until CDC releases whether or not these people got the flu shot – You are all being CONNED by fear porn.

12 Lesley January 22, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Maybe someone with specific knowledge could chime in, but it would make sense to me if you are immune to a pecific virus for life if you get the virus, but for a season if you get the vaccination, as that is not a live virus????????????? Someone? Anyone?

13 Lesley January 22, 2014 at 4:08 PM

*specific* hate typos

14 Atticus Thraxx January 22, 2014 at 4:22 PM

I dig both the quanity and quality of the ill formed opinions, hearsay repeated as fact, and paranoid self delusion when vaccines are mentioned. One wonders how many of you manage to keep your bums clean. Rock on Claycord!

15 Silva January 22, 2014 at 4:27 PM

I don’t like to wait longer than October to get the shot. Last September myself and my 3 year old grandson got the vaccine together. I wish that when my son was growing up they were giving them to normal kids like now, mine whold have missed a lot less school. I stopped getting sick the first year I started getting the shot. To those that say it’s a scheme to just rake in money, Kaiser vaccinates any and all members with no extra fee, and they wouldn’t be giving them if they didn’t work. Where’s the motivation?

16 JWB January 22, 2014 at 4:37 PM

If you had a previous H1N1 infection and if it was the same H1N1 strain you should have some immunity to a new infection with the same H1N1 strain.

H and N numbers are used to classify Influenza A strains. There are a total of 18 different H types and 11 different N types. H1N1 and H3N2 are gnerally the ones which are included in the vaccines together with an Influenza B strain. Some newer vaccines now include in addition a second B strain,

Historically there always has been a H1N1 strain included in the vaccines but there are different H1N1 viruses The most recent which started to circulate in 2009 was called: A/California/7/2009 (H1N1) and is still the same which seems to be again cirulating this year. But other H1N1 viruses had been circulating for many years prior to the new strain which started in 2009 see the description on the CDC website:

“In the spring of 2009, a new influenza A (H1N1) virus (CDC 2009 H1N1 Flu website) emerged to cause illness in people. This virus was very different from regular human influenza A (H1N1) viruses and the new virus caused the first influenza pandemic in more than 40 years. That virus (often called “2009 H1N1”) has now mostly replaced the H1N1 virus that was previously circulating in humans.”

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/viruses/types.htm

It is alos not very straight forward to diagnose the influenza strain which you had in the past so you might be immune or not.

17 JWB January 22, 2014 at 4:42 PM

@ Leslie yes that is correct infections with the live virus tend to give you usually much longer lasting immunity as compared to immunizations with an antigen such as the current flu vaccines, including the nasal attenuated live vaccine which doesn’t give you a full blown influenza infection.

18 VikingPrincess January 22, 2014 at 4:59 PM

@JWB
Thank you

Yes, I have heard of variations to the virus. Makes sense

19 How come the news does not report the 23 seniors that died from the Flu Vaccine January 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM
20 JWB January 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM

@ #19

Really? You fall for this crackpot report? It is fairly clearly stated the vaccine was tested in elderly recipients aged 65 years and oder. In detail 2573 subjects received the new high dose vaccine and 1260 subjets received the regular vaccine. They followed them for 180 days after immunization and reported:

“No deaths were reported within 28 days post-vaccination. A total of 23 deaths were reported during the period Day 29–180 post-vaccination: (0.6%) among Fluzone High-Dose recipients and 7 (0.6%) among Fluzone recipients. The majority of these participants had a medical history of cardiac, hepatic, neoplastic, renal, and/or respiratory diseases. No deaths were considered to be caused by vaccination.”

Maybe this is a surprise to you but some people over 65 years of age can die, particularly if they have a history of cardiac, hepatic, neoplastic, renal, and/or respiratory diseases.

Here, the same percentage (0.6%) of people receiving either vaccine have died between days 29 to 180 afer vaccination and it was determined, and accepted by the FDA, that their death was not caused by the vaccine.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM305079.pdf

21 Mike "troll" Dame January 22, 2014 at 6:30 PM

makes you wonder what the CDC was really doing here last month

22 Antler January 22, 2014 at 6:30 PM

JWB, can you tell from the study report how many of the seniors had a slight case of flu WITHIN the 28-days post vaccination, though they did not DIE during that time? The concern is that, if they did have flu and thus were further weakened, they then might have gone on to die of underlying conditions …… perhaps years SOONER than they would have died otherwise.

Please, I do not mean the above to be a challenge or an antagonistic question. But that actually is the question which many seniors have.

23 ChooChoo January 22, 2014 at 7:26 PM

My child’s orthodontist recently died in his sleep after battling the flu for a few weeks … He was in his late 50s … I wonder if these statistics include his case? So very sad & sudden!!

24 JWB January 22, 2014 at 8:16 PM

@ Antler

The study which the FDA wanted for licensing of the vaccine does not address clinical efficacy. Running a clinical efficacy study for a vaccine would be huge undertaking and since you don’t really know who will be exposed to the virus. What they did was look at safety and this is reported in Table 1. It shows that the high dose vaccine had slightly more adverse events within the first 7 days after immunization. For efficacy they used a correlate and measured the antibody responses to the three antigens and Table 3 shows that for the two Influenza A antigen the antibody response was significantly better and for the Influenza B antigen no different between the two vaccines.

To your question because this is what’s called a split vaccine it does not contain live influenza virus so none of the recipients could have gotten influenza from the vaccine. Based on the antibody data you would have to expect that high dose recipients would have had a better protection than the low dose recipients.

I know that a lot of people claim they got the flu from the shot. One possible explanation is that the ‘flu’ is really not a well defined term. Lots of the flu symptoms are actually caused by substances your body produces to fight the infection. These are substances the immune cells in your body use to communicate with each other, some examples are Interferon, Interleukin or TNF. These substances called cytokines are also produced in response to vaccination but usually in a lower amount than in a full blown infection.

Some of these cytokines are also used a therapeutics like Interleukin 2 for kidney cancer or Interferon for Hepatitis C infection. If you google for the side effects of these drugs and read stories of people who took them you will see that they describe it as having the worst flu they could possibly imagine.

In addition if you read reports from people who had been infected with HIV or HCV for example from a contaminated blood product where you actually can in retrospect determine the time of infection you will usually find that these people reported a flu about 7 days after the time of infection. Again it is not that they got an infection with influenza but they felt their immune system trying to fight off an infection.

25 VikingPrincess January 22, 2014 at 8:30 PM

@JWB and anyone else interested

When a report or study is conducted with a sample mix of over 65 years of age it is more than likely Federal. Data compiled from Medicare recipients – amazing when new procedures, tests or treatments come bout with no data (because its new) not unusual for programs trying to sell or educate public to use data from Medicare – even if the age range isn’t typical- hey its something.

26 Jess January 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Antler, You can’t get the flu from a flu shot. Here is the info copied directly from the CDC’s website:

“Can the flu vaccine give me the flu?

No, a flu vaccine cannot cause flu illness. Flu vaccines that are administered with a needle are currently made in two ways: the vaccine is made either with a) flu vaccine viruses that have been ‘inactivated’ and are therefore not infectious, or b) with no flu vaccine viruses at all (which is the case for recombinant influenza vaccine). The nasal spray flu vaccine does contain live viruses. However, the viruses are attenuated (weakened), and therefore cannot cause flu illness. The weakened viruses are cold-adapted, which means they are designed to only cause infection at the cooler temperatures found within the nose. The viruses cannot infect the lungs or other areas where warmer temperatures exist.”

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm

27 Oh please January 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM

My cousin was hit by a bus on his way to get a flu shot so that’s one more person killed by big pharma.

28 VikingPrincess January 23, 2014 at 12:12 AM

@oh please
Good news…your cousin is covered and family can sue for damages (sorry about that, my condolences)

But if your cousin made it, grew a third eye and eventually died from vaccination – can’t sue or receive anything for damages. The company has immunity.

Hmmm. How do you feel about that Clear cord.comers? I mean, at least they make announcements when a bad batch was used, but human nature is human nature and things happen, people make mistakes or do insane things.

Me? Doesn’t feel like a good deal at all. What do I think?
Not sure..does not compute. Its free to most. Is there such thing as a free lunch? Hmmm. Just feels so wrong I can’t think right now.

29 Julie January 23, 2014 at 12:36 AM

These announcements are so short on details –
1) Were there underlying health conditions
2) Had any of these people received the flu vaccine this year

30 Antler January 23, 2014 at 8:07 PM

JWB at #24 ~ ~ ~ Thank you for your thorough and intellectually-accessible explanations. Actually, I do not recall which form of vaccine I received In 2012. But about 12 days later, I presented with all the symptoms of H1N1…..EXCEPT THAT my chest did not hurt. But the ER staff never mentioned the H1N1 virus to me if indeed that is what it was. Mostly I remember faces and smocks fading in and out of my awareness….or lack thereof…and I didn’t ask questions afterward. There is the outside chance that I did have that strain and do retain some immunity because of that.

On the other hand, my symptoms might just as well have been my own system’s cytokines reacting to the vaccine. The point is…..I have no earthly way of knowing! And logic tells me that if the problem is indeed my systemic cytokinetic reaction, then the reaction could be very much WORST the next time I received the vaccine.

Please rest assured that I am an advocate for vaccination for the general public and have always received all sorts of vaccinations in the past.

(a humorous aside: I wrote on one of the threads about wearing a surgical mask when out in public during this flu season. This morning I was about halfway between my car and the bank entrance before I realized………noooooooooo, probably not a good idea to go in looking like that! :-)

Thank you again, and to Jess as well.

31 TinFoiler January 24, 2014 at 5:51 PM

http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2014/01jan/VS-140123-ehaslam.php

Antler, I’m curious if your were a VICTIM of the SV40 virus Tainted polio vaccination of 1955 – 1961 where 98 million Americans were infected.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40
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CRAP like this is why people don’t TRUST…

32 @anon January 24, 2014 at 6:36 PM

This flu vaccine protects against all the influenza viruses…..? Thats the most ridiculous statement i have heard in a while. Wow people eat this propaganda up like its apple pie!
The reason they dont mention if these people got the flu vaccine or not is because they did. How would you sell flu vaccines if you mention the people that died got the vaccine? If they didnt get it that would be in the title.
For the record vaccine is not immunization! Jesus i cant stand people you continue to spew that disinfo. Its not semantics either the 2 words mean 2 completely different things.
Stop spreading fear porn to sell vaccines! 100,000 Americans die of adverse side effects from prescription drugs EVERY YEAR! Over 80,000 Americans die from medical mistakes at the hospital EVERY YEAR! 35,000 die of the seasonal flu every year ( just kidding that is what the cdc says every year but the cdc own statistics actually say a fraction about 12% of that. Can you believe that the CDC lies to the american public….OMG lol) point is never is there is never anything in the news about prescriptions killing 100,000 americans a year or the adverse effects that injecting people with neurotoxin like mercury or aluminum or carcinogens like MSG or formaldehyde have or the deaths they cause! Why is that? Multiple billion reasons $$$$$$$$!
Stop poisoning us for profit and stop pushing poison on completely healthy people you scumbags!

33 Didnt mean to put @anon January 24, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Opps didnt mean to put @anon.

34 J. January 24, 2014 at 7:10 PM

There are two types of flu shots:
1. Quadrivalent Influenza Vaccine: The quadrivalent flu vaccine is designed to protect against four different flu viruses; two influenza A viruses and two influenza B viruses.

2.Trivalent Influenza Vaccine: Protects against three strains only.

35 Antler January 24, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Tin Foiler at #32 ~ ~ ~ Since I actually HAD a mild case of polio when I was in third grade (I’m a bit over 74 now), I never took any of the Salk vaccine. Our three children had the sugar cube form of vaccine, but it was several years after 1961. They did take one of the lots which was later said to have been ineffective, so they had to go back and get another sugar cube.

Polio is horrific. Two of my young friends died, and another’s brother was paralysed from the chest down and had to be on an iron lung on and off 24 hours a day. Even now, the muscles down one side of my spinal column are not nearly so strong as the ones on the other, and I have to concentrate on standing straight with shoulders level.

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