Homeowner: Solicitor Said “Don’t be Surprised if Something Happens and You Have to Call the Police”

January 9, 2014 20:57 pm · 54 comments

This email came into the Claycord.com inbox on Thursday evening….

I’m in North Concord on N. 6th street. I was visited by a Hispanic guy in a two tone jacket who claimed to be raising funds for a high school after school program. After repeatedly telling him that I wasn’t interested, he walked off and said “don’t be surprised if something happens and you have to call the police.”

Just want everyone to be aware.

Thanks for the note.

{ 54 comments }

1 Missimee January 9, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Is that a threat? Could the homeowner call now?

2 Sam Y January 9, 2014 at 9:07 PM

I hope you called the police!!

3 anon January 9, 2014 at 9:20 PM

i used to think things were getting worse every year. now i think they are getting worse every day.
people like this are going to be surprised when God’s day comes and He takes action against people doing wicked things. ‘It will come at an hour that you dont think.’
Just how many criminals have been let out of jail because of overcrowding?

4 furian January 9, 2014 at 9:28 PM

How nice.

5 Chevrolet girl January 9, 2014 at 9:28 PM

Wow, what a jerk! I think I would have called the police, not saying they would do anything butya never know.

6 biggus thinkus January 9, 2014 at 9:31 PM

great.

7 anon January 9, 2014 at 9:33 PM

are you answering your door properly? demo on how to answer door.
http://www.savemefromboredom.com/4images/img235.htm

8 Steve January 9, 2014 at 9:35 PM

This story’s full of holes.

9 Steve January 9, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I’m sure it happened just like that.

10 Nicole January 9, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Wasn’t Miguel warning people on another thread to “be nice” to solicitors even if you’re not interested? One guy said it was stupid not to piss people off, and others stuck up for Miguel.

I’m with Miguel. If you say no to solicitors, especially at your house, don’t PISS THEM OFF!

Yes, it’s your house, and yes, they know where you live.

It’s called RETALIATION, and low-life’s wrote the book!

Hopefully, this guy was all talk.

11 bigdaddy January 9, 2014 at 9:57 PM

1200 bucks to install cameras at your home and 50 a month to get the home monitored by adt is a good investment.

12 TFF FAN January 9, 2014 at 10:01 PM

@anon #7 – LFMAO .. that was the funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time! Thanks for the great laugh!!

13 Rick January 9, 2014 at 10:02 PM

How about saying no once, and closing the door.

You can politely decline, but if you stand there and listen to them, they’ll go on and on.

Hopefully he was just being a dumb kid.

14 Craig January 9, 2014 at 10:12 PM

If you’re having a problem with solicitors, don’t answer the door.

If your front door doesn’t have a peephole, look out the window and see who’s there.

If it’s not someone you want to deal with, they’ll eventually go away whether you’re home or not.

15 ConcordMike January 9, 2014 at 10:18 PM

I installed my own 8 camera system from Costco for $399. Did it myself a few years ago and I have another four camera system from previous year that I plan to hook up as additional. It might have only cost $299, but either way, it is a fantastic system. Q-See.

16 ranger January 9, 2014 at 10:22 PM

This is precisely why I don’t answer the
door or the phone anymore. As a matter
of fact, I’ve had property vandalized after
supposedly anonymous posts on websites
like this. It’s an opinion. How someone can
be that threatened by an opinion is beyond
me.

17 Homeowner January 9, 2014 at 10:26 PM

I did call the cops immediately. They said they would send someone to check it out. As for how I acted with the guy, I told him “I’m sorry, I’m not interested” after he introduced himself. He asked me to hear out his pitch., which I did until I had heard enough, then I again said “I’m sorry, I’m really not interested.” After the foruth time, I told him I told him that I wasn’t interested, closed the door and sat down to finish dinner. It was about the time that I sat down that I heard him make the threat. My wife indignantly said “Excuse Me” and I went to the door to talk to him, but he had disappeared into the night. It was then I called the police and sent in the email.

18 Steve January 9, 2014 at 10:52 PM

@ Homeowner—–17

Two mistakes:

1. Close the door after you tell him no, and do it the first time.

2. If someone threatens you, don’t open the door back up, regardless of how annoyed your wife was.

If you take the threat seriously, call the police. If not, blow it off.

These situations can easily be avoided with good judgment.

I’m with Miguel. Say no nicely, and don’t give them the opportunity to continue. Why would you listen to his pitch if you had no intention of supporting his fundraising? You’re not being polite, your wasting his time as well as yours.

Being polite would be thanking him for coming, but saying no.

“I appreciate it, but I’m all set.” Then you close the door, or hang up the phone.

When I’m asked for money, I say, “I can’t today, but thank you.”

Works every time for me, as well as the rest of our family.

19 Me January 9, 2014 at 10:56 PM

The suggestions about not answering the door do not work. If you don’t answer the door you’re only putting yourself at risk to be robbed.

20 What_Else_Is_NewS January 9, 2014 at 11:02 PM

This is not good,
I dunno… Something is fishy.

21 Elwood January 9, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I ask, through the door loudly “Who is it?”

Response is “Raising money to fight Doofus Disease.”

I say “No thank you” again through the unopened door.

Doofus Disease solicitor disappears.

22 funny man January 10, 2014 at 12:33 AM

threes a saying i heard somewhere that applies here:
“Peace through superior firepower”
when seconds count. the poilce are only minutes away!

23 T15 January 10, 2014 at 2:11 AM

Woooaahhh that is creepy!! I’m sure it was a remark made out of spite because you turned him down, no criminal in their right mind would tell you to expect their return. In the meantime, stay on high alert just in case he really is that stupid.

24 VikingPrincess January 10, 2014 at 5:15 AM
25 VikingPrincess January 10, 2014 at 5:47 AM
26 Ban this practice January 10, 2014 at 6:00 AM

BAN DOOR TO DOOR SOLICITING OUTRIGHT!

27 lawabidingcitizen January 10, 2014 at 6:05 AM

first mistake was opening your door, just talk through the door.

What if there was 3 other guys hiding and soon as you opened your door they rushed in, beat you and robbed you?

28 Lost and Happy January 10, 2014 at 6:30 AM

don’t answer the door next time. Bonus points if you have a large dog barking at the door and windows.

29 Mac January 10, 2014 at 7:18 AM

Should have told him, you`d be glad to dial 911 whenever someone messes with your place and you have to shoot his a$$.

And the no answering of the door is a bad move.
I didn`t answer my door one night.
And i few minutes later i was running down my street after a guy that put his arm thru my bathroom screen. (almost grabbed his arm)
So don`t think if you don`t answer the door trouble will go away.
Because trouble will think your not home.
And do what they do.
Trust me, been there, done that…..

30 Ranger January 10, 2014 at 7:34 AM

I stopped saying, “I’m not interested”
thorough the door after a Jahova Witness
started screaming at me and kicked
the door. I guess we all have our bad
days. If it’s convenient, I go check to
see who is knocking or ringing the bell.
I like the element of surprise if someone
then wants to come around and try to
break in at the back. I would welcome
the opportunity to beat the living
daylights out of some unsuspecting
low life.

31 Don P - N. Concord January 10, 2014 at 8:15 AM

What time did he come to your house? I think the same person came to my door a couple nights ago – and it was probably around 8pm and pitch black. As soon as he started going into his sales pitch I told him “sorry I cant help” and closed the door.

32 Homeowner January 10, 2014 at 8:38 AM

@31
It was a bit after 8PM.

33 Julie January 10, 2014 at 8:41 AM

You can not answer the door, but still have signs that you’re home.

Lights, loud TV, windows cracked open, etc.

I agree with Steve #18.

Close your door after you say no the first time, and never open your door after you’ve been threatened.

I also agree with Miguel. Don’t anger solicitors if they know where you live. You never know what type of retaliation they have in mind.

34 FIRSTW January 10, 2014 at 8:57 AM

The school’s PTA are generally in charge of after school programs so this guy definitely sounds like this a crook.

35 wow January 10, 2014 at 8:59 AM

Good rule of thumb….don’t answer your door when it’s someone you don’t know. Nothing good ever comes out of it, its either someone who wants your $ or wants to preach to you.

36 Mr. Pink January 10, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Should have just turned the hose on him.

37 Weeks to Baltimore O's January 10, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Someone similar cruised by my house. As he walked up to my door , which was open and I do have a locked security screen, my chocolate labs, jumped up on the screen and that lil guy fled so quick wish I had it on film. The only solicitor in which my dogs ran and hid was the 4 piece walking drum band that was beating their drums, ten am going door to door collecting for there church…

38 The Biz January 10, 2014 at 9:27 AM

Hey, send him over to my place and tell him to pull the same $%^t – I’ll make a citizens arrest, detain his ass on the spot and the cops will be there in a few minutes as opposed to the hours the worthless pos’ probably took to respond to you. Don’t be afraid of these people – they count on you to be a victim.

39 C. Roles January 10, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Chain a rabid honey badger to the front porch. Problem solved.

40 The Mamba January 10, 2014 at 9:55 AM

If the guy is stupid enough to follow up on a verbal threat, he won’t be hard to catch. I’m not going to lie though, if someone said that to me, I would sleep with a gun in my nightstand for a while. I have no time or patience for scum like that.

41 anon January 10, 2014 at 10:03 AM

referring to some comments, once again, dont believe everything you hear/read.

42 anon January 10, 2014 at 10:14 AM

this is just how soliciting works, the solicitors will continue until they see the stop sign. theyre all different on how they react to the stop sign. Here’s one of my ways of dealing with it. they have an agenda, and i have mine. i let them know they are not getting a bit of my attention as i will state ‘i dont have time, i cant listen etc. i’m dealing w/ something traumatic right now, or i’m having a crisis right now i thought you were somebody else. if a family member died in the last ten years or your pet died, anything that was traumatic for you, this is the perfect t ime to express it. especially in a non stop sentence and end w/ i need to do whatever now.

43 CreepyCreeps January 10, 2014 at 10:15 AM

I never answer my door. My dogs’ barking and growling answers the door for me. Too many nut jobs out there. We should all have guard dogs answering our doors for us.

44 Alicia January 10, 2014 at 10:36 AM

All this drama is ridiculous! Just say “no thank you” and close the door. And be polite about it.

Go back to what you were doing, and the solicitor will move on.

45 Seems Obvious January 10, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Why do people open their doors to strangers? I don’t get it. A bad guy can push right past it. You don’t know who else is out there.

Talk through the door. When someone knocks, I ask “Who is it?”. If the answer is someone I don’t know, I say, “Sorry, but we don’t deal with door-to-door solicitors” and walk away.

I would caution against what Julie #33 says:
“You can not answer the door, but still have signs that you’re home. Lights, loud TV, windows cracked open, etc.”

All you are doing is giving the bad guy the impression that you are home but distracted. There have been many a break-in via slightly cracked windows.

Best to just answer through the door politely and say no thank you. Don’t engage and they won’t take it personally.

46 NutCreek Frontier January 10, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Unless it is Girl Scouts, I just say, “No, thank you” through the unopened door. No sense putting the family at risk.

47 Incognito January 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM

I, personally, chose not to answer the door to individuals (no matter what age, race, religion, sex, etc.) who I do not know. Particularly if they are carrying clipboards and are clearly soliciting for something and nowadays it is for pretty much everything and anything.

On the rare occasion I am caught off guard when I happen to be outside when they approach me, I politely say no and walk away into the house. End of subject.

Also, for those who stand and listen to their sales pitch and know darn well you’re not going to buy or give them money for anything, simply hold up your hand and politely inform them you don’t want to waste their time or yours because you are really not interested. It’s important to remember solicitors really don’t want and can’t take “no” for an answer.

I also don’t agree with the theory you should answer your door for fear of potentially be burglarized. If I am home, you knock on my door and if I chose not to answer, be prepared to face what is inside my house if you make the choice to attempt a burglary.

48 Marcus January 10, 2014 at 11:30 AM

I agree with Julie and Incognito.

People aren’t going to break in if they think you’re “distracted by TV.” Not answering the door makes more sense than answering through the door. Even though there is nothing wrong with it, it shows fear.

Answer the door, politely say no, and close the door. Or don’t answer the door. He/she will eventually go away. They’re looking to make a sale, not waste time on your porch.

49 Silva January 10, 2014 at 11:46 AM

I generally cut them off pretty early on with “I’m broke.” If they insist, I say “seriously, save the shpiel for somewhere it’ll count.” They do seem to understand and appreciate “broke”. I can say it in 2 languages too.

50 Silva January 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM

In my past life I told a few Jehova’s Witnesses I worshiped Satan and they didn’t come back for a very long while.

51 Don't Censor Me Bro January 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM

@ #38 and for which crime would you be arresting the person? Make sure you know the law as you can be personally sued.

IOW’s was the purported threat credible, when was the home owner at imminent risk, what weapons were seen, displayed if any, etcetera.

52 Cal Old Blue January 10, 2014 at 1:25 PM

German Shepherd.

53 Kirk January 10, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Hardened screen doors are nice to have and easy to install. I open the wooden door and let my dogs throw themselves against the screen while I pretend to try and calm them down. They were trained to attack the screen when I command.

I think cameras are a good idea, even a small door sign that says “all solicitors will be photographed.” Rigging a flashbulb to the doorbell would be a nice touch.

54 Ranger January 11, 2014 at 9:22 AM

… about the time they bust thru
the garage door to the house, I
come running at them wearing a
gorilla costume from a couple of
Halloweens ago. If you’ve never
seen a twenty something high
jump a six-foot fence, you’re in
for a real treat!

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