Five Broken Windows at the Lime Ridge Open Space Lot on Montecito in Concord

January 9, 2014 14:10 pm · 145 comments

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This picture was sent to us on Thursday morning by a Claycordian who counted five broken windows in the parking lot of Lime Ridge Open Space on Montecito Dr. in Concord. (at Ygnacio & Cowell).

This is an ongoing problem in this parking lot and also in the Lime Ridge parking lot on Treat Blvd. We’re being told police have stepped up patrols in the lots, but unfortunately, the burglaries have continued.

If you plan to park in the lot, make sure nothing valuable is in your vehicle, and also make sure to take any garage door openers and registration papers out of your vehicle before you leave for your hike. Just put them in your pocket or in the trunk (as long as the trunk can’t be unlocked from the inside of the vehicle).

The lot is visible from Ygnacio Valley Rd., so if you’re driving by and you see somebody smashing a window or spot something else suspicious, call 9-1-1 or the Concord Police non-emergency line at 925-671-3220.

101 Here's a serious thought January 10, 2014 at 4:37 PM

How many people would be willing to donate a little of their time in the evening or on weekends? We could form a volunteer patrol to watch this parking lot (and maybe others) for suspicious activity, then call the police and take pictures for evidence.If enough people were willing, the time commitment could be as little as an hour a week.

I’m NOT talking about people confronting suspects or trying to detain them. I’m just talking about having a VISIBLE presence in the staging areas. I would be happy to wear a t-shirt that says “Volunteer Patrol” and help educate people as they come in to park. Maybe hand out some information on why we’re there and how to help prevent crime.

I can’t imagine the Concord PD would have a problem with such a thing, as long as actions taken are limited to photographing and reporting suspicious activity. To be honest, I doubt there would even BE much suspicious activity if the parking areas were obviously being watched.

Anybody else have any thoughts on this (other than Mitch and Marcus who are just going to say I don’t get it. Hell, if they have it, I don’t WANT it.)

102 Just Some Guy January 10, 2014 at 4:47 PM

@Mitch and @Marcus

Your “logic” is simply do nothing and run scared until there’s no where else to go. I have logic it’s just lock with a backbone. No one is saying don’t be smart about what you leave in your car. But the idea that we should just roll over and let criminals push us out of public space is simply … cowardly.

You’re free to run away but don’t denigrate those who are willing to stand up and ask others or do something (Concord PD, community watch, hidden cameras, GPS traps) from working on a solution so that we push the criminals out. Then you can trot back and use the lots as you used to.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

103 @ Mitch post 93 January 10, 2014 at 4:56 PM

You are wrong. And as stupid as Alicia for agreeing with her. So I think that you two would make an interesting pair. Maybe you should hook up with her.

But in reference to her statements, if wants to say at home, eat her bons-bons, and be afraid of everything out there that may happen on the trails, then she certainly has the right to do so — just dont label other people as being “stupid” and “asking to be raped” just because they want to enjoy their lives by hiking outside.

And look up the most recent driving statistics which are constantly posted by AAA – you have a 50% chance of getting into an accident EVERY time you drive. That doesn’t stop people from getting into their cars, does it??

I know plenty of girls out there who have more balls than you do, and are not afraid of running, hiking, biking on trails. What they usually do is just keep their cell phones with them, carry mace, avoid running during dawn/dusk when it is dark. But to tell someone not to ever go outside on a trail again because they were attacked is just insane. AND PARANOID…LIKE ALICIA

Get back to your meds before sounding off again, buddy.

Me 1, You 0

104 Lock and Load January 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Mitch and the other weaker trolls on this post can go ahead and run away from trails where their cars get broken into. I am going to continue enjoy my life, exercise, enjoy the weather.

And if those degenerates at Lime Ridge do decide to break into my car, I have a nice little glock 9 I can introduce them to…

105 Candyman January 10, 2014 at 5:15 PM

I have been reading these posts and can’t help but notice that Mitch tends to bully everyone here. Which is hysterical because he sounds like the type of guy who lives in the house-on-the-hill, far away from everybody, drinking his wine and eating his cheese. There is a place for people like that….it is called Lafayette!!!

If someone breaking into your car upsets you this much, causing you to make such drastic lifestyle changes – I can’t imagine what real problems might do to you.

And car break-ins can happen anywhere, not just near Lime Ridge. There have recent incidents where vehicles located in parking lots of well established businesses have been broken into. And stolen. And these are places where security is monitoring the parking lots, daily.

So let us all stop going to work, because our vehicles may get stolen at work, right???

106 Sheila January 10, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Agree to disagree. I don’t hike, so it’s not a concern.

But if I was a hiker, I’d find somewhere else to hike. It’s common sense.

Why would I want to deal with all this crap if I don’t have to? Let the police worry about it.

Lock and Load wants to shoot people? If you want to spend the rest of your life in prison.

107 Claire January 10, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Why are a few of you (the lack of common sense folks) insisting that everyone stick around and park and hike at Lime Ridge?

Who made you the “hiking police?”

If they want to get the f*** out of there, let them get the f*** out of there!

Who wouldn’t want to go elsewhere?

108 @Claire January 10, 2014 at 5:53 PM

What we’re trying to explain is that the “elsewheres” are becoming few and far between, and will eventually be non-existent. It will be far too late to take a stand at that point. So, what are you going to do? Look for another planet?

109 Lisa January 10, 2014 at 6:01 PM

I used to park at Lime Ridge and go hiking until I read on Claycord about all the break ins.

I now hike Mt. Diablo, which I find more challenging anyway.

If people want to leave and find somewhere else to hike (and park), quit meddling in their business.

It’s my life, and I’ll hike where I want!

110 Lisa January 10, 2014 at 6:03 PM

@Claire—(108)

Mt. Diablo will always be there! That’s where I’m currently hiking, and couldn’t be happier!

111 Silva January 10, 2014 at 6:28 PM

@Lisa, do you pay the $10.00 entrance fee? Mt Diablo is a fabulous place to hike, run, bicycle, horseback ride, camp, etc. etc.. I just came down from there, and it’s a fantastic beautiful treasure! I can’t afford that every day though. Is there a staging area unknown to the general public where we can leave our cars and hike in?

112 @Lisa January 10, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Hike wherever you want. I could care less. Just remember I told you so when the break-ins start happening at Mount Diablo and you’re stuck looking for another “safe” place.

113 Silva January 10, 2014 at 6:45 PM

@Here’s a serious thought; bully for you! You sound like someone who could make it happen, too! Any takers?

114 Silva January 10, 2014 at 6:48 PM

@Viking Princess; bravo for cleaning up the neighborhood like that! So awesome!

115 KenInConcord January 10, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Any hunters have a Trail cameras they want to stash near the entrance to the lot?

But unless you catch them in the act it will never make it to court.

116 Nutcreek Frontier January 10, 2014 at 7:45 PM

For serious hikers, a great staging area and safe place to park is at Borges Ranch. The road in and out discourages thugs, they can’t do a quick getaway. Happy hiking!

117 Neal January 10, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Of course thieves are going to break into your car in a lot for hikers.

They’re looking for purses in the car or trunk. Wallets in the glove box or under the seat.

It will only get worse. Park and hike at your own risk.

Personally, anybody that parks in a lot that has serial burglaries is beyond stupid. If they’re aware of it anyway.

Unbelievable!

118 VikingPrincess January 10, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Just when we where discussing the need for neighborhood watch in the community, Concord and surrounding areas went Die Hard on us. I still think its a good idea and share with Clay cord.com if need be. Thanks Silva…believe me we were scared too. One person drove up on our lawn he was so mad, but never came back and the SWAT team eventually finished the biggest guy…found out he was making it with an infant in the house… all in a quiet bedroom community.
Guys…neighborhood watch works, but be on same page with law enforcement.

119 It's unfortunate January 11, 2014 at 8:53 AM

There will always be two types of people, the ones like Viking Princess who get off their butts and DO something to improve the situation, and the pansies like Sheila, Mitch, Marcus, and Claire who run away or hide under the bed and let somebody else deal with it because it’s “not their job” or “not their problem”. Sadly, the pansies outnumber the rest of us by at least 20 to 1.

I don’t hike, have never parked my car in that lot, and have never been burglarized. But I was willing to donate time on weekends to patrol that lot for those who want to use it. Only one person even commented on my suggestion, and nobody volunteered to help. So you’re on your own. I’ll just be like the rest of you and care only about myself.

120 Neal January 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM

@ It’s Unfortunate-119

Put me with Sheila, Mitch, Marcus and Claire (and several others you left out).

I have more important things to worry about than that stupid lot. Let law enforcement handle it. It’s NOT YOUR JOB!!!

If it was my neighborhood, yes. I have a 30 yr. mortgage.

But some stupid lot? Forget it. if you don’t understand why people chose to “hike and park elsewhere”.

Maybe these people have a life, and don’t have time to worry about it.

Smart people MOVE ON!

121 Silva January 11, 2014 at 2:40 PM

@It’s unfortunate; people just seem to want to let off steam and insult each other here. I really applaud your willingness to help. This am as I passed on my way to work I noticed many cars there, and possibly someone who was sitting in a vehicle, a white p/u, who was conspicuosly in the middle of the lot, rather than in a stall. Perhaps looking out for others? Maybe!

122 Bill January 11, 2014 at 4:25 PM

For those of you who claim they “want to” or “are actually doing something about this”, my question to you is, “what are you actually doing?”

At least the others admit they don’t want anything to do with this lot, and rightfully so.

So Viking Princess, Silva, etc., what are you doing about it? Or are you just sitting behind a keyboard and pretending?

123 I offered to help January 11, 2014 at 5:57 PM

But why should I, when the people directly affected won’t even lift a finger to help themselves?

Sure, maybe it’s just a stupid parking lot. Maybe you can just park or hike someplace else. At least until there’s no place else. Look at Detroit, for example. Do the Mitches and the Neals think it turned into a cesspool overnight? It started with one stupid parking lot, or one little park, and then took years of apathy by losers just like them before it got to where it is today.

And the most pathetic thing about them is that they can’t even see how pathetic they are. They actually think they’re the ones with common sense.

124 Denise January 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM

@ I offered to help…..#123

You’re in the minority, but you’re entitled to your opinion.

Crime will happen there because thieves know people are hiking, and they’re looking for purses, wallets, etc.

I don’t hike, but I would hike elsewhere myself.

If police have increased patrol, and the break ins are still happening regularly, what do you really think you can do?

You’re very naïve.

125 VikingPrincess January 11, 2014 at 9:03 PM

@Bill..when you get a moment like I have now, please review my comments again. Initially I read the article and somehow ended up noting a handful of angry posts…and asked questions that were not even answered. This commonly happens on talk about whatever, as posters get a bit self absorbed… no matter.
I do go for walks and bike but not a hiker. I dont go alone when i do, even if I use meet up as a resource. No one seemed interested in doing much but venting so I moved on, was anyone under the impression I was supposed to do something?
@ I offered help and @just some guy..@silva and others made gallant comments. The thread started to quiet down and make more sense. But reality is, some people are pleasantly miserable and like to complain, you start to give solutions and when they quiet down or go away its obvious.
Hey…I’m still awaiting for my answer but I am not interested in pining away if no one pays attention. If you need help or insight speak up.
Thanks to those who care and make a difference ;)

126 Steve January 11, 2014 at 9:53 PM

The people who want to park and hike elsewhere aren’t the ones who are complaining. They’re willing to move on.

It’s the small minority who think you should stick around and “do something” that are coming across as whiners.

With the exception of Neighborhood Watch programs where people with 30 year mortgages get involved because they’ll be living there a long time, leave crime fighting to law enforcement.

Your paying for it through your taxes. If the cops can’t get the crime under control at the lot, what do really think you can do to help?

Thieves will steal from their own Mothers, and they’re not deterred by the police. Like you can stop them?

Get real.

127 VikingPrincess January 11, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Honestly, had no idea it was a trail until reading the posts.
Had no idea neighborhood watch was exclusive to homeowners…silly me ;)
All that time my hubby and I were going to college, working, saving to buy and renting. But we started a neighborhood watch and the Sherriff never told us that was a requirement. In fact, they mentioned high crime rates were common in rental dense areas of cities.
Hey maybe times are changing. Even then I still watch my neighbors back…
Learn something everyday.

128 @Steve January 11, 2014 at 10:35 PM

The only thing needed to control crime at that lot is a presence. Nobody is going to break into cars when somebody is watching.

What if there were a small fee to park at a staging area (maybe two dollars) and somebody sat in a little booth there on weekends collecting the fees and watching the lot. Would anybody be willing to pay two bucks to have somebody watching their car while they were off hiking? I would gladly pay for that peace of mind, but I’m guessing I’m in the minority.

BTW, you pay for that park with your taxes, too.

129 VikingPrincess January 11, 2014 at 11:03 PM

@Steve..could not agree with you more. There are areas that do collect for parking and I do recall a staging area of the park costing about ten dollars And I was a bit floored that I had to go online, join something and pay to walk in a park..LOL. I take it this is where Rangers watch vs poluce? Hard to keep up ;) yep times are changing.
Great suggestion Steve..and if people are serious about the area then they will take you up on it.
Only other crazy option is to call in to the police or sheriff every time you decide to go..tell em you are checking in and heard vandalism was an issue and they are now being informed a taxpaying citizen is in the vicinity and graciously request their expertise. ;)…guess I am feeling a bit spicy.

130 Shelly January 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM

@Bil #122: if you had read the posts you would have known that Silva didn’t know where the parking lot was in the first place. Her comments were about being sad that it was difficult for so many to enjoy our beautiful parks and trails. Why would she then be required to answer to you what she was going to do about it? If you had read the actual posts before making your bullying comment, you’ve known that she has herself has been unable to enjoy ANY hike in the park on her own for over 40 years. Like she said, some. Folks are here just ro vent and insult others. Viking princess has put herself out there in a prolonged and dangerous situation to make living better for others, and used the experience as an example of what could be done. We. Don’t know the answer here, and we personally never proclaimed to, but some people have come up with ideas, and maybe to the benefit overall.

131 Shelly January 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

@Steve from my POV, the people saying we’re stupid because we’d like to be able to use our parks in relative safety sound hysterical. But call me any name you want, I’m sure I’ve heard worse!

132 Shelley January 12, 2014 at 10:11 AM

I disagree that having someone in the lot would deter a thief. It should, but it doesn’t.

Burglars break into homes when residents are home, day and night!

Auto burglary and car theft happens in public when there are a lot of people around.

Thieves don’t care—–PERIOD!

133 Mustang Sally January 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM

@Shelley, #136. you’re right. And the parking fee does have an excluding effect on a large group of already marginalized working or otherwise people.

134 Mustang Sally January 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM

(Should have said “marginalized working or otherwise POOR people.”)

135 Rick January 12, 2014 at 11:35 AM

@ Shelley-132

I totally agree. Hike and park at your risk, or hike somewhere else.

136 @Shelley January 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM

If you were to actually check the statistics, I’m sure you would find that attended lots suffer from break-ins FAR less than unattended ones.

137 Sheila January 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM

@Shelley—-#136

Since nobody is attending the lot, what difference does it make?

Law enforcement has increased patrol, and unfortunately it’s still happening.

Perhaps you can attend the lot tomorrow, and every day after.

Be sure to let everyone know how it went. I hope you’re successful.

138 @Sheila January 12, 2014 at 3:50 PM

You obviously haven’t followed the discussion and you just felt like hopping on the “People who actually try to improve a situation instead of running away from it are morons” bandwagon.

Yeah, law enforcement has increased patrol. Now they drive by twice a day instead of once. What difference does it make? None. What am I going to do? Nothing. I’ll spend my energy defending things that are important to me (and hiking isn’t one of them).

Go hike at Mount Diablo (which is probably not much safer, but it’s not covered on this blog). When you get ripped off at Mount Diablo, you can start hiking Mount Tam. Eventually, you and all your pacifist friends will be driving to Mount Everest to walk your dogs. Enjoy, and dress warmly.

139 Horse'n Around January 12, 2014 at 4:00 PM

So a lot of people are saying ” just don’t park there. ” Ok, so then we go and frequent another park. Then the losers start going to that parking lot, and breaking into our cars there also. Then what? Do we just keep going from one hiking area to another, and then still have people blaming us for wanting to enjoy the outdoors. How about trying to find a solution and stop blaming the victims. We can’t stop enjoying life and letting the losers take over.

140 Danielle January 12, 2014 at 4:33 PM

My husband and I hike at the Lafayette Reservoir, and have been for years. I never heard of any break ins, but there might be.

If Lafayette isn’t too far, there’s the Lakeside Nature Trail (2.7 miles, paved), and the Rim Trail (4.7 miles, unpaved).

It’s a beautiful place to hike.

I understand why people want to hike elsewhere, and I understand why people want to solve the problem of break ins. Not everybody thinks alike.

Happy hiking!

141 Miguel January 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

I’m too lazy to hike. And if someone breaks into my truck, there isn’t anything worth stealing.

I do play a lot of sports, but you’re not going to catch me hiking or jogging. Where’s they joy?

142 I'm The Urban Spaceman January 12, 2014 at 5:54 PM

I saw a MC cop on patrol there at 10 this morning

143 Silva January 12, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Miguel #141; it’s a joy to be outside in our naturally beautiful world. It’s different thing to different prople. Some can barely move, but that doesn’t stop them from wanting to get out in nature. It’s not allways about the exercize, though that’s definatly a bonus. I love wildlife. My grandmother was NUTS about birds.

Danielle #140; I used to love to explore the reservior in Lafayette when they opened it up! It was beautiful then, and I’m glad it still is. I may have to go there again!

144 Silva January 13, 2014 at 9:40 AM

149 Urban Spaceman-That’s vert cool!

145 Silva January 13, 2014 at 10:02 AM

*very

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