Winter Spare the Air Alert Issued for Friday December 13th

December 12, 2013 16:00 pm · 75 comments


The Bay Area Air Quality Management District (BAAQMD) has issued the tenth Spare the Air alert of the season, banning wood burning on Friday Dec. 13th for the sixth day in a row.

The following information is from the BAAQMD:

Wood burning is banned both indoors and outdoors tomorrow, Friday December 13, 2013.

Air quality in the Bay Area is forecast to be unhealthy. It is illegal for Bay Area residents to burn wood or other solid fuels in fireplaces, wood stoves and inserts, pellet stoves, outdoor fire-pits, or other wood-burning devices.

This wood-burning ban will be in effect for Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Napa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, southern Sonoma and southwestern Solano Counties.

Winter air pollution is mainly caused by particulates or soot pollution from wood smoke. Smoke from wood-burning fires is linked to illnesses such as asthma, bronchitis and lung disease, and is especially harmful for children and the elderly.

For more information about the Wood Burning Rule, or to check before you burn, visit or call 1-877-4NO-BURN.

You can also call 1-800-430-1515 and register to receive automatic phone calls when a Winter Spare the Air Alert has been called.

To see the current air quality forecast visit

Visit the Apple App Store to download our FREE Spare the Air iPhone application for alert notifications, local air quality forecasts, podcasts and several tools to help reduce air pollution!

Thank you for doing your part to Spare the Air!

This AirAlert is provided by your Bay Area Air Quality Management District.


1 Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Air Pollutants that Trigger Asthma

So you can be informed. You will notice that wood smoke is only mentioned once. One in five Americans live within10 miles of a coal fired power plant that is used to generate electricity so you can power your home.

It’s not the wood that is the problem!,,,,,,, Read!

Ground Level Ozone: A toxic component of smog, ozone triggers asthma attacks and makes existing asthma worse. It may also lead to the development of asthma in children. Ozone is produced at ground level when tailpipe pollution from cars and trucks reacts with oxygen and sunlight. Ground level ozone is a big problem in cities with lots of traffic, such as Los Angeles, Houston and New York City. In 2004, according to the American Lung Association, 136 million people lived in areas that violated ozone air quality standards.

Sulfur Dioxide (SO2 ): A respiratory irritant associated with the onset of asthma attacks, sulfur dioxide is produced when coal and crude oil are burned. Coal-fired power plants, particularly older plants that burn coal without SO2 pollution controls, are the worst SO2 polluters. One in five Americans lives within 10 miles of a coal-fired power plant. Oil refineries and diesel engines that burn high-sulfur fuel also release large amounts of SO2 into the air.i

Particulate Matter: This term refers to a wide range of pollutants — dust, soot, fly ash, diesel exhaust particles, wood smoke and sulfate aerosols — which are suspended as tiny particles in the air. Some of these fine particles can become lodged in the lungs and could trigger asthma attacks. Studies have shown that the number of hospitalizations for asthma increases when levels of particulate matter in the air rise. Coal-fired power plants, factories and diesel vehicles are major sources of particulate pollution. Around 81 million people live in areas that fail to meet national air quality standards for particulate matter.

Nitrogen oxide (NOx): A gas emitted from tailpipes and power plants, nitrogen oxide contributes to the formation of ground-level ozone and smog. It also reacts with other air pollutants to form small particles that can cause breathing difficulties, especially in people with asthma.

2 Only a Fire December 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Keep driving your diesel trucks, keep the ports open spewing particulates, let the refineries continue to pollute at full capacity, keep roads open to all the polluting traffic, let anyone drive, cars idling at drive throughs, toll lanes, let eateries continue to billow smoke (e.g Burger King) ……

BUT do not start a simple piece of wood on fire…. REALLY?

3 Pro Fi December 12, 2013 at 4:17 PM

You really think they will grind the economy to a halt? How about making a choice: Drive your car or burn wood. One or the other but not both. It is that simple.

4 Blah December 12, 2013 at 4:19 PM

#2 Only a Fire – I completely agree with you!!

5 Howard K Mullins III December 12, 2013 at 4:20 PM

It’s always easier to control the law abiding population rather than take on the tough job of enforcement toward the bribes of big business and the sold out politicians people around here keep reelecting.

6 A liberal December 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM

…looks like the next five days will be STA as well, all because San Jose has bad air quality. I understand the point of Spare the Air days but they’re overreaching here, why should folks 100 miles away be banned from having a wood fire if the wind isn’t even blowing towards the problem area? They really need to break it down by reporting district at least, banning it across the entire area is stupid and just pisses people off.

7 Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 4:29 PM

There will be an NFL game in Oakland this weekend. Thousands of fans will drive their cars, RV’s and trucks to the game where they will BBQ and heat themselves with wood and briquettes with wood particles. There will be no BAAQMD people to be found. The media will nor recommend public transportation to the game. They will only say don’t burn a piece of wood when you get home in order to keep warm.

8 The Chosen One December 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM

This has to be a PG&E conspiracy at this point right?? I dont remember this many winter STA days before the San Bruno incident.

9 Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

At least everyone now knows that wood fires are not responsible for STAD! So what are you going to personally do to improve the air quality? Nothing of course, you will still blame wood fires.

10 Ignore December 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM

This is old news. We’re all ignoring it. Encourage news outlets to stop reporting their alerts. Nobody is listening. Nobody buys their phony claims.

Look, if it were so bad, then their own investigators would arrive to investigate violators wearing protective breathing equipment. That’s not happening.

Fire fighters would ARRIVE at fires wearing protection. They are more exposed than anyone. Why aren’t they? Because this is bullsh*t.

11 WC Boy December 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

in celebration of this Spare the Air day…I think I will have a fire! :)

thank you

12 Keeping It Real December 12, 2013 at 5:29 PM

I’ve never seen a bigger group of BABIES!

How many of you really burn a fire every night? Are you even home?

You’re just looking for another reason to COMPLAIN. The truth hurts.

13 anonymous December 12, 2013 at 6:17 PM

#8, if it’s a Conspiracy of pge ~ none of the workerbee employee’s have heard about it. We don’t care if you burn wood.
I agree with #2 & #7, You nailed it! The Masses are too busy sleeping and being concerned with a WORTHLESS game. How is your life any better based on the outcome of a game? That’s what I THOUGHT!!
DISCLAIMER: I in no way represent or speak for or on behalf of PG&E, its employees, its share holders or its affiliates.

14 @Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 6:27 PM

I read your first post and fail to see where it says wood smoke does not contribute to Particulate Matter pollution. In fact, it says the opposite.

BTW, there are no coal-fired power plants in the Bay Area so the PM pollution is not coming from that source.

15 Dorothy December 12, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Well, it IS Friday the 13th.

16 KenInConcord December 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM

This STA program is TOTALLY WORKING!!!

Me not burning firewood for the last 5 days has completely ended the Global Warming Problem!!!

17 @Howard December 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Did you really think we want those laws observed? We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.

18 Wayne M. December 12, 2013 at 6:48 PM

@#12 Keeping it real: How stupid are you to make a comment like that? Do the math you idiot. Its been the coldest week of the year if not decade, and all of a sudden we cant light fires in our fireplaces? I’m not sure what planet you’re from, but believe it or not, people light fires to stay warm and save money on nights in the 20 and 30 degree range. SUCK IT!

19 Smoke & Exaust December 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM

I must say that since (BAAQMD) has issued no burn days our house, closets, garage and attic are not filled with my neighbors smoke. Now if I can get him to stop the 40 minute loud truck warm-ups at 5:30 in the morning…I think that is (STMFO) department.

20 Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Actually what I said if you read carefully is that wood smoke is only mentioned once. I did not say it didn’t contribute to particulate. I also did not say they were coal fired plants in the Bay Area. I said that 1 in 5 americans live within 10 miles of a coal burner. Closest one is Stockton.
What it says is that most of the particulate comes from sources other than wood!
Maybe the particulate is coming from the burning of crude oil or the over 8 million cars in the Bay Area or the diesel trucks….

21 Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 7:00 PM

The BAAQMD says that over 2/3 of the particulate comes from sources other than wood.

22 Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Coal Plants = Toxic Mercury

Thre is a coal plant in Stockton generating electricity that you use to heat your home!

Coal plants are one of the largest sources of man-made mercury pollution in the U.S. Every year 300,000 infants are born at risk for developmental defects because of their mother’s exposure to toxic mercury pollution.

This toxic pollution causes serious health problems, including brain damage. Almost 2/3 of coal-fired plants lack the needed modern pollution controls to keep toxic air pollution, like mercury, acid gases and arsenic, out of our air and water.

23 Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Another source of your electricity and home heating.

Natural gas power plants are significant air pollution sources, releasing hazardous air pollutants, global warming pollution and fine particulate matter.

Natural gas is worse than coal for global warming

While the smokestack emissions from gas-burning power plants are lower than coal, gas is worse because of the leakage from the wells to the pipelines and compressor stations to the end-uses — since methane (the principle component of natural gas) is far more potent at heating the atmosphere than carbon dioxide (which is produced when coal or gas are burned).

24 TinFoiler December 12, 2013 at 8:44 PM

@17 – Awesome, So true!

25 Mrs. T December 12, 2013 at 8:51 PM

We will be enjoying our fireplace tomorrow and any other day it is cold. So ok then :)

26 JLG December 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Is anyone concerned about the air quality?

27 Mrs. T December 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM

19 so to you people do not have a right to crank there vehicles so they dont freeze when they get in in the mornings?? REALLY?? WOW!! Crank my truck every morning to warm the ole girl up dont GAF if it bothers you or anyone else the inside of my truck will be nice and toasty when I leave in it.

28 . December 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM

“The BAAQMD says that over 2/3 of the particulate comes from sources other than wood.”

An who do they go after ?

29 . December 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM

“… because of the leakage from the wells to the pipelines and compressor stations to the end-uses …”

Why so few explosions from all those leaks ?

30 Rick December 12, 2013 at 9:41 PM

If you’re cold, turn your heater on. It doesn’t cost much.

AC is a different story.

31 mwo1859 December 12, 2013 at 9:43 PM

So I quess the coldest days of the year is spare the air days. You damn hippies with money

32 Pro Fi December 12, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Just The Facts Folks… Just the facts…

Wood Smoke Break Down

Wood smoke from fireplaces and wood-burning stoves contain fine particles and gases that can pose a serious health threat to you and your family. The smoke emitted from wood burning contains the following:

Fine Particles: These particles are so small that several thousand of them could fit on the period at the end of a sentence. They reach the deepest recesses of the lungs and accelerate hardening of the arteries, negatively affecting heart function.

Nitrogen Dioxide: This odorless gas that can irritate your eyes, nose and throat and cause shortness of breath. In people with asthma, exposure to low levels of NO2 may cause increased bronchial reactivity and make young children more susceptible to respiratory infections. Long-term exposure to high levels of NO2 can lead to chronic bronchitis.

Carbon Monoxide: This odorless, colorless, poisonous gas interferes with the delivery of oxygen throughout the body and may cause headaches, dizziness and, at higher concentrations, death. Those with cardiac and respiratory disease may be more sensitive to lower levels of this gas.

Toxic Compounds: These include such compounds as formaldehyde, benzene, methyl chloride and methyl ethyl ketone (a wide range of compounds that usually have no color, taste or smell.) Some cause direct and negative health effects by penetrating deep into the lungs.

Carbon Dioxide: This greenhouse gas contributes to global climate change.

The above particles found in wood smoke are too small to be filtered by the nose and upper respiratory system, so they end up deep in your lungs. They can remain there for several months causing structural damage and chemical changes to your body without you even being aware.

Not Just Your Household’s Health at Risk

If you don’t have a fireplace or wood-burning stove at home, don’t feel at ease just yet. You’re heath still may be at risk … from your neighbor’s fireplaces and wood-burning stoves.

Because wood smoke contains such tiny particles, the smoke is not stopped by closed doors and windows, and seeps into nearby neighbors’ houses. In fact, during winter months, wood smoke does not rise and often hangs close to the ground, entering yards, houses, schools, and hospitals. Subsequently, areas with valley locations and poor air circulation are affected most.

Ummm…. Diablo VALLEY…..
4 mph wind speeds on avg over the last two days – 5 is the historical avg. for this time of year
AQI is at 55 at 9:00 pm tonight

33 Pro Fi December 12, 2013 at 10:20 PM

The most pompous arrogant SOBs live among us folks. Yeah warm the old girl up my arse… try starting up your truck in -10 weather…. moron…
You people have no idea what cold is….. STFU!

34 Elwood December 12, 2013 at 10:25 PM

@ Bobfshed #9

I’m going to give up f**ting. Methane is a major pollutant.

35 Elwood December 12, 2013 at 10:28 PM

I’m still wondering if the prominently placed ad of the BAAQMD and the prominently placed posts about STAD are related.

36 Elwood December 12, 2013 at 10:32 PM

@Mrs. T #27

Assuming none of the tires are flat.

37 Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 10:32 PM

These fine particles come from many sources other than wood. In the winter over 2/3 of these particles come from sources other than wood fires. BAAQMD data.

38 Elwood December 12, 2013 at 10:34 PM

@ Pro Fi #32

We’re all doomed. For sure.

39 Bobfshed December 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Using petroleum products not only endangers others around you it endangers the entire environment as well as the land and lives of people in other countries. It is not safe for humans to obtain or use petroleum products. There is no comparison to the negtive heatlh effects on people or the environmental damage that has been caused by petroleum use and production compared to the use of wood for heating.
These are the facts. It ‘s not wood burning that is destroying our environment.

40 Pro Fi December 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

@ Elwood – If the stupidity of these conversations continues …. yes. You are absolutely right….

I do what is right for me…. I live by society’s rules. At the end of the day I don’t compare my actions; ethics or material goods to anyone else. I can change the world, but I choose to act IN it and not ON it.

Good night Claycord and have a pleasant tomorrow….

41 Pro Fi December 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM

@ Bobfshed – You are 100% accurate…. wood burning alone is not destroying the planet… but it doesn’t save it either. I just decided to provide a counter-argument.
I am more concerned about the outright defiance to most things in this country. I am not a sheep.. far from it. But I do believe in social order to some degree and we are on a slippery slope right now. The system is FUBAR. Its the fault of every political party today and the media crazies that spew hatred. But most importantly, it is our fault for not standing up for what we believe in, as a nation of Americans not individuals out for themselves.

42 @ Pro Fi December 13, 2013 at 6:38 AM

Lol!!! Thanks for your lesson on wood smoke, the most natural form of “pollution” around! Hey, did you know that when you exhale, you are putting harmful carbon dioxide into the air??? So perhaps the air quality board should ban us all from exhaling!!!! Lol!!!! OMG! You can make an argument about anything if you want, no? Your tirade is laughable. Tell me oh informational BAAQMD defender, why is it that the relatively few people in the entire Bay Area that want to warm their home with a natural resource are punished yet refineries, restaurants and such are exempt to spew their pollution 24/7? Or why don’t you think the use of electricity and gas provided by pge does not produce harmful pollutants in the world?

Or why does the board not ban us from having those allergy causing trees, grasses, etc that affect so many more people in society?

Why??? Lol!!! You are laughable!

43 James Dean December 13, 2013 at 7:29 AM

I think the whole thing is stupid…There are bigger problems to deal with in the world. No matter if there is a Spare the air day…I am burning a fire if it is cold…Yes I have a heater, but I also live in a 65 year old house that has NO insulation!!! My windows are single pane and if it’s cold, i’ll burn the hell out of some wood all night to keep my family warm. If anyone comes to the door, it’s not getting answered unless I know you! Burning wood for a week straight …toasty and feeling the holiday spirit anyway!

44 Mrs. T December 13, 2013 at 7:51 AM

Elwood flat tires huh?
Pro Fi it seems you know everything what was I thinking having an opinion. Yes I warm my truck up in the mornings and I do happen to know what cold is MORON! You must know everyone in this area if you know for a fact that none of us know what cold weather is WOW you are an important person. I got an idea why don’t you STFU that would probably make alot of people happy :)

45 Concord December 13, 2013 at 7:56 AM

I will not turn in my neighbors some can’t afford the high PG&E cost so enjoy your fires and stay warm.

46 Vindex December 13, 2013 at 7:58 AM

I called this a week ago… Everyday. I’m all for clean air. These people however are environmental nazis.

47 mad mom December 13, 2013 at 8:05 AM

The children who have asthma breathe easier on STA days. I see it first hand. Maybe if some people looked past their computer screens they’d understand the world a little better. Also a little compassion towards others couldn’t hurt.

48 The Mamba December 13, 2013 at 8:54 AM

If my tree hugging mother has declared this ridiculous and started having fires at home, there’s little hope for the rest of us.

49 whatever floats your boat December 13, 2013 at 9:28 AM

I’m not concerned about spare the air days. I’ve had a fire in my wood burning stove every night…and I will continue. BAAQMD is just another form of communism.

50 Anonymous December 13, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Hers an interesting thing: If the forecast anywhere in the District is bad, they shut down the whole district for home fires. Monday the wind was blowing to the west. So fires on the Penninsula were sending smoke into the Pacific, which the BAAQMD hasn’t managed to regulate (yet). The ban there certainly made no sense, even by their reasoning.

Unquestioned power brings arrogance. Our Supervisors on the Board,
Piepho and Goia are poodles for the extreme fringe that make up the Air District. Try emailing them and you wont even get an answer.

51 chevymn2001 December 13, 2013 at 9:50 AM

The only reason i complain is im a single dad living on one income i by a cord of wood to get me through the winter with out having to run the heater and run up my PG&E but every night that i need to burn because its freezing and below its a spare the air

52 Unbelievable December 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM

People think by burning fires they are getting back “at the man”, the BAAQMD or whomever.

No, you are just making it harder for those with breathing problems. I won’t turn in anyone, unless their burn is egregious, but I can’t believe that there are so many insensitive people on Claycord that can’t just do without a fire when you can see evidence of the smoke just hanging around.

I thought that the only room to benefit from a fire was the one where the fireplace was. Doesn’t the rest of the house just get colder when the warm air gets sucked up the chimney?

Yes, the Port burns diesel, but that’s not in a residential area. Is not having a fire going to solve our air problems? Probably not, but it might help your neighbor or their kid to breathe better. Why not get in the Christmas spirit and consider someone else’s challenges for a change?

I would absolutely bet that many of the selfish and mean-spirited comments on this post are by people who self-identify as Christians. Sad.

53 Julie December 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM

When we run our heater, it cost’s an extra $3-5 dollars for the MONTH. And our home is over 2000 sq. ft..

When we run our AC in the summer, our bill increases $50-75 dollars a month.

I don’t think people are saving as much money having a fire as they think they are. It “sounds cheaper” than it really is.

54 Wilma December 13, 2013 at 10:34 AM

I will burn my logs today again. I refuse to acknowledge these spare the air days and will uphold my vows accordingly.

55 Trevbo December 13, 2013 at 10:34 AM

I wish they would just ban fires and be done with it.

56 Bobfshed December 13, 2013 at 10:42 AM

The solution would be to let technology drive wood burning. It is possible to make a wood burning stove even better than the EPA certified stoves they have now. The EPA stoves already burn very clean.
What they have done is equivalent to saying we are going to ban cars since they can’t get 120 miles to the gallon and are pollution free. There are other alternatives to getting around so use them and be considerate of your neighbors.

57 @Wilma December 13, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Your vows to who? Satan?

58 @Anonymous, December 13, 2013 at 10:48 AM

>> Monday the wind was blowing to the west. So fires on the Penninsula were sending smoke into the Pacific, which the BAAQMD hasn’t managed to regulate (yet). The ban there certainly made no sense, even by their reasoning.

Are all the houses on the Peninsula arranged in a column going North/South?

59 Denise December 13, 2013 at 10:52 AM

@ Wilma—-54

You’re selfish. May you and your family have breathing problems one day. I hope you’re fined. You’re a moron.

60 Bobfshed December 13, 2013 at 10:52 AM

I wish they would ban the use of petroleum products! Of course addictions are hard to break.

61 Wilma December 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM

@everyone who disagrees with me
As you drive around, take the bus or bart, or even just talk consider this: you are having more of an impact on globa warming than I am for burning my logs and barbequing today; and oh yes I am barbequing today!

62 Mrs. T December 13, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Whats on the pit Wilma. Mmmmm we love a good ole BBQ!!!

63 Denise December 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM

@ Wilma—61

You’re stupid, and you lack consideration for others. May you have breathing problems as well as a fine.

64 OhYeah? December 13, 2013 at 1:31 PM

That defiance is a symptom of the dementia
caused by a lack of oxygen to the brain which
is what you get if you don’t have a window open
when entertaining an open flame.

65 Joe Thiasson December 13, 2013 at 2:29 PM

It seems our society is losing our sense of freedom. Propoganda and government control are the beginning of communism. Mankind has been burning wood to keep warm for thousands of year so now it’s “bad” because it affects some people’s breathing? REALLY? I guess sooner or later people will realize the dangers of driving cars since thousands of people die every year from driving them. Shall we start a ban on cars?

66 @Joe Thiasson December 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM

I don’t know if it signals the beginning of communism. Maybe we wouldn’t need the rule if we just had a little compassion for others who don’t have it as good as you and didn’t have wood fires…for a day or two, or in extreme cases, a week. No one is asking you to stop driving.

As far as losing our sense of freedom- I am sure you might be complaining if that freedom meant that your neighbor was blasting their stereo at all hours of the night or was running a brothel out of their house.

We live in a land of laws. Yes, sometimes those laws go way overboard, but many times they are enacted because others are too selfish and inconsiderate to moderate their own behavior.

For every municipal law you don’t like, there are probably two others that you are grateful for. If your child had asthma or your wife was on oxygen and had a hard time breathing, you’d probably be thankful for the Spare the Air days.

It’s a shame that there are so many self centered people (or trolls) on Claycord. If someone was from out of town and read these posts, they’d think we were a community of douche bags.

67 Bobfshed December 13, 2013 at 3:20 PM

The Bay Area will always have STAD with or without wood fires. 8 million people live here, they drive cars, there are 5-6 oil refineries, the port of Oakland, Silicon Valley….. If you have breathing problems this may not be good place to live. A smaller populated area with less industry and automobiles would be better for you.

68 . December 13, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Already announced for Saturday.

69 Bobfshed December 13, 2013 at 3:28 PM

The air is not bad because of wood fires. Over 2/3 of the pollution in the air today comes from sources other than wood fires. That is from the BAAQMD website. If you are having trouble breathing I suggest you find out where all the pollution is coming from, be proactive and help stop it.

70 Joe Thiasson December 13, 2013 at 3:55 PM

If you’re comparing the blasting of a stereo or running a brothel to Spare The Air, then you’re really off base. Keeping warm by burning wood has been around for thousands of years and now it’s bad because it affects some people adversely? I’m sure there are other human actions that have far more reaching affects, so shall we ban them all? I have a friend who is allergic to peanuts, so should we ban peanuts?

71 Sam December 13, 2013 at 3:58 PM

As the planet’s population continues to exponentially increase, regretfully, the inevitable byproduct of same are the ever increasing levels of pollution density, “it all adds up”; a girl was getting raped, 8 “good people” witnessed the rape in progress, yet did nothing to intercede, a student kills themself, as they were being bullied, for months; how many other students, faculty, parents, “good people”, knew about it, but chose to do nothing to intercede; primary perpetrators of destruction, those humans who gratify their lust, for monetary or physical gain, raping, be it one victim or the planet, will always constitute a smaller proportion of the population; it is the vast majority, the “secondary perpetrators”, the apathetic, tainted masses, self centered, narrow minded, all of these “good people”, who choose to look the other way, “it’s not my problem”.

72 Anon December 13, 2013 at 5:15 PM

#53, Not everyone has a 97% efficiency forced air furnace and a newer well insulated home. THINK!!!

73 OhYeah? December 13, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Have a fire in your fireplace, if you must.
Just keep your smoke off my property.

74 . December 13, 2013 at 5:21 PM


It won’t get on “your property.”

Just in the air, bonehead.

Suck it up.

75 Bobfshed December 13, 2013 at 5:30 PM

When you start your car, mow your lawn, or burn natural gas keep your pollution off my property!

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