Off-Duty Concord Cop Accused of Road Rage – Lawsuit Filed

December 3, 2013 16:00 pm · 62 comments

An Oakland man filed a federal civil rights lawsuit Tuesday against the city of Concord, saying an off-duty police officer deliberately rammed his Mini Cooper and broke his arm during a road rage incident.

The officer, though, told authorities that the Mini Cooper driver had been the aggressor.

Henry K. Lee has the rest of the story online at SFgate.com.

{ 62 comments }

1 Blah December 3, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Is his employer responsible for this? Can you just sue someone’s employer now days for something that’s not related?

2 Danger Ahead December 3, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Why is the city of concord being sued? Sounds like somebody jumped on the chance to file a lawsuit. Mansurian is a good cop. I have had dealings with him in the past through city work and he has always been very polite and generous. I don’t believe this one for a minute.

3 wasd December 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Cops need to be held to a much higher standard than regular citizens, be it on the job or off. Throw the book at him!

4 jtkatec December 3, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Concord Residents, open your wallets.

5 bmark December 3, 2013 at 4:13 PM

If someone cuts you off, don’t flip out and try to catch him. I think it was the fault of the mini cooper for trying to chase him down.

6 dudebro December 3, 2013 at 4:15 PM

read the artcle. officer id’d himself as pd before slamming victim to ground, breaking his arm.

7 Sue Happy POS December 3, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Don’t give him a penny!

8 Truthman December 3, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Suing th

9 Terry Kremin December 3, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Why not – we have a lawyer that loves to settle everything.

10 bumper morgan December 3, 2013 at 4:40 PM

It is always telling when the party suing is trying to make themselves out as a do-no-wrong, perfect golden boy during an incident. Minimizing and sugar coating one’s involvement in any incident usually translates to deceit.

11 boccegrl December 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM

I hate Dirty Cops

12 BigMarge December 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM

boccegrl ~ What’s “dirty” about him, or are you just trying to chime in here? Clearly bad judgment on both sides, his being a police officer should not factor in, anyone can get a little peeved in traffic and make a mistake…….. but someone sees deep pockets. Very transparent. And, Concord will pay the nuisance fee to get out of ligation. These folks know how to work the system..

13 Blink December 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM

The guy is 64….poor judgement all around…what kind of infinity? If the SUV pretty bold ramming a mini….the tales that will be told on this one, shame on all!

14 though December 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM

cops and off duty cops shouldnt use their power for anything they want

15 unknown December 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Not good for someone that carry a gun.

16 Prospective juror December 3, 2013 at 6:02 PM

No score for the lawsuit whore in the Caldecott bore. My guess is Weiland is one of those idiots who tailgates as you near the tunnel and freaked out when someone happened to go in front of him. Idiot was looking for trouble and found it in the wrong place!

17 Roger December 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM

So it looks like the driver may have been DUI by “straddling lanes” and having an “unsteady gait.” Was he given any FSTs or determined whether he was driving under the influence? It seems like there is a lot missing here.

18 Gnon December 3, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Don’t piss off off duty cops driving in Costco parking lot or on freeway- yikes.

19 Jules December 3, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Dudebro – he did not produce his badge. That’s a problem when you say you are a cop – too many people like to spout off they are something they are not. Whether true or not – he should have produced his badge – yes, he needs to be held to a higher standard

20 Tired of it December 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM

I’m tired of people just trying to get a pay day. Probably another case where the officer acted appropriately but some scum lawyer is trying to make a pretty penny at the expense of the officer. Lawyers are the problem with modern society.

21 AGAIN, Again, again December 3, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Concord, Lawsuit.
Is there an echo in here?

22 Watch The Video December 3, 2013 at 6:56 PM

In Russia motorists for self defense have resorted to mounting video cameras and digital video recorders in their vehicles.

23 justice December 3, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Police need to be extra accountable for their behavior. If he is guilty he should do some jail time. The public is tired of police abusing their power. Remember cops.. you work for us.

24 I clicked the SFGate link December 3, 2013 at 7:22 PM

and all kinds of crap programs downloaded onto my computer…I wasted an hour Uninstalling…..Be Warned

25 Sam December 3, 2013 at 7:24 PM

For all parties involved, please do not allow personal biases, to rush us, to a preconceived judgement; let us be forever vigilant, not to be dictated, by our emotions, but by our intellect.

26 Cowellian December 3, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Dismissed in the interests of justice?

27 J. December 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Concord PD Officer Kevin Mansourian should not have been swearing at the Mini Cooper driver Walther Weiland.

Mansourian should be held to a higher standard in an auto accident.

28 Janet White December 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM

I have had dealings with this particular officer and they were only positive. He responded to an accident I witnessed and he was so kind to the woman at fault when everyone else was disgusted with her. He later called me for details and was such a nice guy. With that being said, when someone’s arm gets broken due to off duty force, I think it has to be looked into. I naively hope that the truth prevails, whatever the truth may be.

29 Pete December 3, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Doesn’t surprise me one bit with some of these Concord Police Officers. They give everyone else in their dept. a bad name. At the same time, I don’t think the city of Concord or the CPD should have to pay a dime in this case being that he was off duty. Just another police officer abusing his authority off of duty.

30 Beacon December 3, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Weiland reached in his pocket to get his drivers license. Cop or no cop, I think Mansourian assaulted Weiland. However, I have no idea why Weiland is suing the City of Concord. He should be suing Mansourian.

31 What people don't understand about lawsuits December 3, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Everyone and everything is named in the suit, then gradually the court whittles them down to the few finalists.

32 Mr. Joshua December 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Does a guy who intentionally rams a car during a road rage incident, causing moderate damage, no less, generally pull over to exchange information? No. Something isn’t right here, and it sounds like the loser plaintiff is looking for a handout. I’m not buying it.

33 Anon a mousey December 3, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Maybe it was turner gossiping but I heard a hot head off duty cop pinched an old man in the face at Costco over a parking spot and took off. Ran his plates and came back to off duty CPD.

34 Dennis December 3, 2013 at 8:26 PM

@Beacon when someone repeatedly rams your car, and then approaches you in an aggressive manner, the only rational choice is to react to threatening actions, like grabbing something in a pocjet. gun? knife? cell phone? dunno about your death wish being good advice.

this stinks of “it will never get to court; they’ll settle with a chunk of cash.”

35 Fig Newton December 3, 2013 at 8:28 PM

I know Mansourian ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,He’s one of Concords Finest !!!!!!!!!! I seriously doubt that he would involved with anything in this!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s get one thing straight,,,,,,,,,Concord PD is #1 at Stopping The Bad Guy,,This is a whimpy case,,,,,,,,,,,Let me guess John Burris will be Weilands atty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Always some citizen looking for easy money!

36 ConcordMike December 3, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Posts seem to be 50/50

37 Anonymous December 3, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Im as quick to criticize as anyone but I highly doubt the Officer was looking for someone to brutalize. This is another drunk looking for a quick buck.

Got stopped by this Officer once and got a warning. He was professional and polite, in my opinion, a cut above most.

38 Anon December 3, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Concord will settle out of court so the truth never comes out they do a great job of protecting their own no matter what the cost. Why shouldn’t this guy sue our own cops sue each other and win.

39 The Dude December 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM

CPD is dirty. Nepotism, sexism, dirty DUIs, and now assault with a deadly weapon. The city counsel needs to get control of this organization before it goes completely rouge.

40 anon December 3, 2013 at 9:46 PM

so we know the plaintiff was taken to the ground and his arm broken. is this not unnecessary use of force? put yourself in his place. is it really ok to take an older guy down and break his arm.
scenario shows pride and testosterone were running high as neither would yield and it got to the point of ramming cars.
does this not look like excessive force on the odc? if not why not?

41 Retired CPD December 3, 2013 at 9:46 PM

I know this officer, I worked closely with him, if the allegations are proven to be true I hope his career in law enforcement ends and he spends a long time behind bars.
Officers that act like this put all honest officers at risk.

42 Anonymous December 3, 2013 at 9:50 PM

So many cop hatred posting today.

43 Sunnymoon December 3, 2013 at 10:00 PM

“Walther Weiland, 64, said Officer Kevin Mansourian cut him off Feb. 17 on westbound Highway 24 in Orinda as the lanes merged near the Caldecott Tunnel.

After Weiland tried to pull around Mansourian, the off-duty officer rammed his Infiniti into Weiland’s Mini Cooper”

I don’t know, but the only way I see this is that Mini Cooper was a clear aggressor. When lanes merge, cars merge – left, right, left, right. This is not called cutting off. Then Mini Cooper proceeds TO PULL AROUND the Infiniti causing damage. AND he files a lawsuit. I hope his suit gets tossed out. What a crock.

44 Mister Wister December 3, 2013 at 10:32 PM

So I guess you just wont post the posts that are critical of the police, right?

45 CLAYCORD.com December 3, 2013 at 10:44 PM

What, Mister Wister? There are plenty of posts critical to the police.

46 phill mckrackin December 4, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Concord cops. Some are bad. Some are good. Some over do it on the steroids
But they all lie and abuse their power when they say straddle lanes swerving reached into pocket made sudden threatening moves. standard cop lies.
You want to pat me down for your protection. You got the gun ahole.
Wake up people

47 I don't get it December 4, 2013 at 4:42 AM

This happened in February;; this is now December.

Why is the fool suing the City and not just the officer? Just because he’s PD doesn’t mean you have the right to go after the whole City.

Sounds like this fool is money hungry. Idiot!

48 JRConcord December 4, 2013 at 6:17 AM

Mansourian forgot to name others in his lawsuit such as caltrans ,mini cooper,infinity,the manufacturer of the tires on the vehicles ,santa clause, jesus, ect…..get it…..

49 94598 December 4, 2013 at 6:32 AM

IMPORTANT–
For those of you that posted about the off-duty CPD officer that assaulted the old man in front of his family at the Concord Costco parking lot and then fled as all us bystanders were calling the police because he was assaulting a victim—-the CPD basically did nothing to reprimand this officer. He is still there and no doubt abusing/assaulting others while on his steroid raging high. I would love to post that officers’ name here.

50 @Retired CPD December 4, 2013 at 7:52 AM

Did you actually retire after years on? Or did you get some BS medical retirement and are milking the system?

51 94523 December 4, 2013 at 8:39 AM

All of the commenters seem fond of declaring that cops must be held to a “higher standard”. What is this unspoken standard and who determines it? Is the law not a good enough standard?

52 @94523 December 4, 2013 at 9:36 AM

You are correct. Cops simply must be held to the standard… they must be held accountable for their actions. This officer should be suspended, charged with assault with a deadly weapon and reckless driving, and tried in court. That is the law.

53 Anon a mousey December 4, 2013 at 9:39 AM

94598
Why don’t you post his name here? I’m sure the citizens of Concord would like to know who they are dealing with IF they encounter this dude.
Turner has prob told half the town anyway…….

54 Rollo Tomasi December 4, 2013 at 9:58 AM

@ The Dud #39:

Can’t have the department go completely rouge. It would clash with their patrol cars.

55 Rob December 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

A cop letting his testosterone get out of control.

As for cops being held to a higher standard – yes, they are granted authority that I don’t have as an ordinary citizen – I can’t arrest them, throw them in a jail and detain them against their will even if I see them doing something wrong – and that is just the most basic starter – and as such carry a greater responsibility for their actions.

56 Jake December 4, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Happened while off duty, city is not libel for what he does when he is off duty.

57 BCuzItzClaycord December 4, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Entities, be it private or public sector are not responsible for employee actions when said employees are off the clock.
This happened in February so I would say something very fishy is going on…..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

58 Anonymous December 4, 2013 at 1:33 PM

@ Retired cop.
You are a liar.

59 Cowellian December 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Anybody can sue anyone else, at any time, and for any reason. And the city has much deeper pockets than the cop. Concord seems to prefer to settle out-of-court, so they are an easy target. There is a general perception that all cops are always on duty, and he did identify himself as a cop. I don’t know if that’s enough to convince a judge and jury, but I’m willing to bet the case never makes it to court.

60 ANON December 4, 2013 at 2:30 PM

“There is a general perception that all cops are always on duty, ”

They have 24 hour peace officer status

61 cornfed December 4, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Retired CPD is a fraud, and so is this lawsuit.

62 CICILY BURNS December 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM

my name is Cicily Burns frist cousin too CHARLES A BURNS
i would like too know why is it ok fore ppl too speak so…..DISRESPECTFUL on a young man who,s life was TRAGICALLY TAKEN By ANOTHER man who WAS GIVEN A SHINY BADGE GIVE HIM THE WRIGHT TOO BRUTALLY MURDER MY COUSIN….THERE IS AND WILL NEVER BE JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS HEINOUS MURDER…FOR ALL YOU ILLITERATE ASS PPL MUST be ok too run ur mouth when u have not had too feel the PAIN OF what a Mother Father AND EVEN CLOSE KNIT FAMILY FEELS WHEN SOME ONE YOU LOVE TOO BE SAVAGELY MURDERED TO THE POINT MY COUSIN COULDN’T EVEN BE BURIED…BECAUSE OF HOW BRUTALLY MURDERED MY COUSIN CHARLES A BURNS WAS MAYBE FOR ALL YOU PPL WHO WANT TOO TALK AS IF CHARLES WAS NOT A HUMAN OR THAT HE WAS NOT LOVED OR MAYBE YOU DON’T THINK THAT HE HAS A MOM AND DAD WHO HAD TO PREMATURELY BURY THEIR SON MY COUSIN A A BROTHER A NEPHEW A GRANDSON A FRIEND A PERSON AND TOO MANY OF US A PART OF OUR HEARTS THATS IS NOW SHATTERED CANT BE HEALED JUST LIKE MY COUSIN TIFFANY SAID OUR LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME WE LOST OUR BABY COUSIN WHO DID NOT DESERVE TOO BE TAKEN FROM OUR FAMILY NOT LIKE THIS WE WILL GET JUSTICE FOR CHARLES A BURNS AND THE COPS WILL PAY FOR WHAT THEY DID FOR THOSE WHO WANT TOO SPEAK AS IF THEY KNOW WRIGHT FROM WRONG THINK AGAIN BECAUSE UNTIL YOU LIVE IT OR FELL IT MAYBE DONT SPEAK ON WHAT YOU DONT KNOW BECAUSE WHEN ITS ALL SAID AND DONE WE STILL WONT BE ABLE TO SEE OUR BABY COUSIN UNTIL YOU FEEL THE DEVASTATION OF WHAT WE FEEL AS A FAMILY OR MAYBE WHEN A COP GUN,S DOWN A INNOCENT PERSON OR UR CHILD IN FRONT OF YOU THEN SPEAK ON WHAT YOU THINK U KNOW YOU PPL HAVE NO IDEA ON HOW THIS FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE PPL WHO THINK THEY KNOW BUT JUST DONT HAVE A CLUE IGNORANT PPL SHOULD KEEP THEIR IGNORANT COMMENTS TO THEIR SELF.
I LOVE YOU CHARLES AND EVERDAY I CRY I ASK WHY DID YOU HAVE TOO DIE IT,S NOT FARE THAT YOU WERE TAKEN FROM US SO PREMATURE WE LOVE YOU OUR NOW BLUE EYED ANGEL.

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