VIDEO + RADAR – Vehicles Going Over the Speed Limit on Concord Residential

September 19, 2013 · 73 comments

Yesterday, we showed you a video of a vehicle collision at the intersection of Joan & La Vista Avenue in Concord, and told you the neighbors want a four-way stop at that location.

Today, we have another video from near that intersection, but this time, it’s showing vehicles that are going over 25-mph.

Check it out, it’s a pretty cool video.

Thanks to Cal for sharing it!

1 Anon777 September 19, 2013 at 8:20 AM

None of these cars appear to be going too fast or too reckless to me. I don’t think 30-35 is really that fast which is what most cars are doing.

2 Anon September 19, 2013 at 8:22 AM

But hey, at least we haven’t seen anyone smoking. That is our City Council’s top priority, not citizen safety.

3 Z-Man September 19, 2013 at 8:23 AM

LOLl. Thanks Cal. All that traffic must have caused the flooding back in August at the same spot… too!

http://claycord.com/2013/08/26/caution-avoid-joan-avenue-at-la-vista-in-concord/

4 Anon September 19, 2013 at 8:28 AM

I like the fact that Cal is making proof for the City of Concord to take notice. At least he is trying to make his neighborhood safer for all.

Unfortunately I think if you pick any random intersection in Claycord area, you will find the same speeding numbers he posted (over 100 cars over posted speed limit, etc)

Good luck, Cal!

5 Alexey September 19, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Was there anybody going at the speed limit?

6 gimli September 19, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Bike rider doing 26MPH? He was barely pedaling. More like 15MPH. Someone needs to recalibrate their device. I do agree people driving 4,000LB CARS speed through neighborhoods unnecessarily.

7 Horse'n Around September 19, 2013 at 8:36 AM

I want to do this on Concord Blvd. It’s like a raceway out here.

8 Cindy September 19, 2013 at 8:37 AM

I visit the park each morning @ the end of La Vista, agreed four way stop is long overdue!! Joan is used as a cut through, and would seem the speed limit reflects Clayton Rd. YIKES!! I’ve come close to being clipped several times. 25 is reasonable……. it’s a narrow residential road. Maybe a stop would deter the cut through.

9 Slow the hell down before you kill someone September 19, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Wish I had this idiot on video yesterday doing probably 45-50 down Shell at D Street around a blind turn in a little white older Toyota type car, then just missed a truck pulling out of Castro Street, by like inches, and into a school zone/. That guy needs his license GONE…..

10 No chicken Little September 19, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Using your speed study it looks like they should raise the posted speed limit to 35mpgh. Looks Totally safe.

11 Chester E. Kitty September 19, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Anon777 … it’s too fast if a kid walks out in front of your car! Back when I was in my 20s, I hit a child on a residential street on she came flying down a driveway (in between cars!) on her big wheel. I didn’t see her at all until it was too late. Thankfully I was going UNDER 25 mph and she wasn’t that hurt … just scratched up and scared. So … on top of not hurting her (which is the most important thing), I also was not cited. If I had been going 35, who knows what could have happened.

12 Chevrolet girl September 19, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Ya make it 35! Whatever is convenient for the drivers that are in a hurry and not the people that live on the street. Keep it 25 and slow down, not that difficult!

13 JD September 19, 2013 at 9:02 AM

I want one! Most of the cars in the video later passed my house along Kimball heading to the elementary school. And then there are the Dominoes Pizza drivers taking a shortcut back to the Dominoes on Clayton in the evening.

And get off my lawn!

14 Good Luck, Cal! September 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM

I hope you get your four way stop! There is a reason the speed limit in most residential areas is 25! I have 2 kids and would not want to live on that street.
And since we’re on the topic……Drivers, PLEASE SLOW DOWN on San Miguel Road in Concord!

15 Pegasus September 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM

That was like watching grass grow. Why would anybody live in a house on such a busy street anyway?
Concord, like so many others, was / is not a well planned community. Houses could face away from busy streets and be shielded by sound walls. Too late now.

16 Frisby Hedd September 19, 2013 at 9:04 AM

#10 all the way

Bicyclist was not doing 26 lol – Cal’s gun needs re calibrated
Limits need raised
People need licenses yanked for reckless speeds over realistic limits.

Limits are set so low they can ticket anyone anytime and the problem is 90% of drivers (and cops) ignore them because they’re so obviously bogus.

The limit setting methodology seems outdated next to advances in auto safety and braking performance.

A modern minivan will outbrake an old Corvette.
Why is the limit still the same 25mph from 1970?

The problem is legitimacy, not people in a hurry (because they’re NOT sitting on azz collecting a government check).

17 @10 September 19, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Except that the speed limit on residential streets is never over 25mph.

18 NewsDay September 19, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Wow-What about Clayton Rd or Concord AV or Galindo Especially around that area. These areas need traffic-herlp! Accidents every month, people getting killed–where is this news. People should be outraged.

19 Tonic September 19, 2013 at 9:19 AM

I would love to see the same recordings on Myrtle Dr. where I bet the average speed is over 50 in in a 25 MPH zone.

20 anon September 19, 2013 at 9:19 AM

I just requested a speed trailer to be put on Landana Drive. Have to wait in line as other neighborhoods have requested the same. As I drive on Landana, I go the posted speed limit just to piss off the people using Landana as a thorough fare to Highway 4. Have followed buses and none are going the speed limit, let alone the cars.

21 mike cool September 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Willow Pass Rd. is even worse. Gas tanker trucks pass through at freeway speeds in the middle of the night.

22 Robert September 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

While I admire what Cal is trying to do on Joan Ave, I have to agree with some others here and mention that this same thing is happening on almost EVERY STREET throughout Claycord…. it isn’t as if everyone is staying under 25 mph everywhere and and this is only happening on Joan Ave!
Try to setup a camera on Concord Blvd/Glazier, it is a very dangerous corner and has been for years, many accidents and people fly around the bend on Concord Blvd at 50-60 mph on average.

23 The City needs to set up a Radar Trailer September 19, 2013 at 9:23 AM

….let people know just how fast they are going over the speed lmit.

24 Wildcat September 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

All these folks that say the limit needs to be raised are the same ones that would be on here crying that people are flying down their streets if it were them. Wow. Speed limit is 25 there for a reason.

25 Jefe September 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

@ Pegasus: it’s still a residential area and unsafe for cars to be driving that fast. I understand that most people don’t observe the posted speed limit anywhere (parking lots, freeways, city streets, etc) and most cops would not pull over somebody for going 35 in a 25. But going 40+, like many cars on the video, is way too fast for a residential neighborhood.

Would you want your kids playing in the front yard, or walking on the sidewalk, with cars going that fast, regardless of how busy the street is?

26 Traffic Engineer Needed September 19, 2013 at 9:39 AM

The radar gun data (if accurate) is but one tool for the traffic engineer.

They look at width of roadway, the grade, curvature..and volume of traffic to name a few.

Generally, the criteria is the “85%” or 85th percentile. You get a ticket, and go to court, you best ask the traffic cop for the “Speed Survey” and the engineer’s report that says your speed that you were cited for is over the 85%.

Again, rain, fog, ice…all limit your speed under the “Basic Speed Law”…but purely for “going 35 in a 25″…the city has to demonstrate that speed as being unsafe.

27 babytruck September 19, 2013 at 9:47 AM

How about speed bumps?

We lived on a VERY steep hill in SF. The neighbors there installed their own speed bumps. That was hella funny. They lasted maybe four days before some other neighbors shoveled out spots in them that allowed the tires to go through without hitting the bumps. LOL

28 Peter September 19, 2013 at 9:52 AM

Laws are for the guidance of the wise and the obedience of fools. 10 over a speed limit is pretty much the rule for being safe and seemingly the average on that video. All this letter of the law versus spirit is just stupid. Just keep making reports from various people and then go to a counsel meeting if it is that important to you.

29 Anonymous September 19, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Stop signs are to regulate right of way, not speed. What this street needs is a few good men on motorcycles with Concord Police written on the bikes.

CPD reads Claycord. I guarantee there will be some tickets.

30 Frisby nails it September 19, 2013 at 9:54 AM

The only way you’ll be able to keep a pace of 25mph today is if you’re the only car creeping along a residential street. In that case, at that speed, Claycord residents will then video tape you thinking you’re staking out the neighborhood. Outside of school zones and on main vein roads, 35 is the “real-world” normal speed around here.

To play devil’s advocate, though, people are…well…there is no polite way to put this: dumb. We need these 25mph signs posted all over the place because we can’t trust the average person to make good judgment calls on when they should be cruising at 30-35 and when they should be slowing down to 20-25. For every good driver that is capable of making that call, there are 20 horrible drivers incapable of it in this city. Although I agree the speed limits are so low partially because it makes a cop’s job easier to bust you, when he/she decides they want to bust you, they are also there because you and I can not trust Mr. Average Driver to make safe judgment calls with their vehicles. So we’re all stuck at 25.

This is all besides the point: Just put in a damned stop sign and a crosswalk.

31 Pegasus September 19, 2013 at 9:57 AM

@ Jefe #25 –
I think you missed my point entirely.

32 Diana September 19, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Speed Bumps and Stop Signs!
One poster said, “None of these cars appear to be going too fast or too reckless to me. I don’t think 30-35 is really that fast which is what most cars are doing.”
Now poster #1 !! Lets try having “your” kids play outside on their residential street and then tell me that they are going to fast when one of them is hit by a car cause they are going way too fast to slow down in time. Luckily no one has been killed yet!

33 Mrs. T September 19, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Everyone was driving safe. Most were driving 30-35 mph. Why not raise it? Seems as if everyone is driving safely at that speed it should be changed. No harm here at all.
Come on what else are the people of this area going to complain about?
Some people have nothing better to do…. Really??

34 AKA September 19, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Most people”drivers” just do not care any more. It is sad that we as residents have to resort to filming this happen to try to get change made. I guess if I could afford a video camera I would be out video taping this kind of thin myself.

I live near Clayton Valley Charter and see people use the center lane to drive nearly the entire length of the high school. This week alone I have seen 4 kids almost get hit while in crosswalks. People blocking intersection at Alberta and Acadamy, which has a sign posted “Do not block intersection.” And so much more.

While on Clayton Road I see people drive up the right lane to Ayers then recklessly merge left over the solid white line instead of turning right.

Almost a dozen cars drove the right lane against the curb which is not a driving lane on Clayton Rd past Heather Dr. then past Silverleaf Ln. and on to Claycord Ave. If you remember not long back this spot was the topic of conversation in other posts with pictures. The city came out and re-marked the lane and made a turn lane to Claycord Ave. Shame on you Silverwood parents for doing this. I know this because I go there myself. I waited like I should have for the traffic to start to move and merged to the lane legally and my child was not late for school.

Ok I am done for now but I will be back.

35 guys September 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Should have this guy posted on the freeway everyone going over 65

36 Neighborhood September 19, 2013 at 10:20 AM

What is safe about 35 in a neighborhood?? The speed on residential streets has little to do with cars crashing into cars. It has to do with cars hitting, runners, people, children, etc. Kids run out from their yards, from behind cars, etc. It’s about view angles people and a residential neighborhood you have a lot less time to react because the distances are smaller.

37 Woody September 19, 2013 at 10:22 AM

The calibration must be off. There is NO WAY that cyclist was doing 26 mph.

Mountain bikes with standard knobby, the average is 13-15mph. With semi-slicks/slicks, 15-18mph.

Road bikes, 18-22mph is pretty average. Although competitive riders can frequently maintain 30+.

38 Neighborhood September 19, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Calibration issues or not, nobody can deny that people drive way too fast down joan. Period.

39 @ anon777, Mrs. T, and any one else September 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM

None of these cars appear to be going too fast,Every one was driving safe. WOW really. Speed limits in residential neighborhoods are 25mph
.
May Karma, God, Allah, Buddha, Krishna, whatever your flavor is pay you a visit in the near future.

40 Mac September 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM

I`ve been driving my motorcycle around this area for a little over 39 years.
And not only has the number of cars and trucks increased.
But the number of people who just don`t seem to care how they affect others have increased also.
People are in such a hurry, that they don`t care how their reactions affect others.

It`s one thing to try and deal with this when in my car or truck.
But it`s a bit tougher to deal with them on my motorcycle.
I spend a good deal of my time looking out for people, instead of enjoying my ride.
If not, i would end up in a hospital or in a hole in the ground.

The roads are a lot more busy, and people take less time to look out for others.
Somedays i even think about putting my motorcycle a way for good.
And switching to a tank

41 Dorothy September 19, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Just zipping along, minding what’s on the radio, maybe checking a text, why bother with speed limits on such a street, not as if anyone other than a kid trying to cross the road walking around.

42 Neighborhood September 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Mrs T #33. Someone living on Joan having seen people drive too fast understanding the likelyhood of someone getting seriously injured is probably why “they have nothing better to do”. The fact that you are complaining about someone making a video and taking action seems like a much bigger waste of time to me considering they aren’t doing anything that is going to ruin your day.

43 @Mrs. T September 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM

>> Everyone was driving safe. Most were driving 30-35 mph. Why not raise it?

Because there are lots of kids in the neighborhood that cross Joan to get to the park. The video doesn’t show that.

44 Hank Hill September 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM

That house on the right is my brothers old house.I remember back in the 90’s he would say that cars drive to fast for the neighborhood. Time for the city to do something, whether it be police presence, calming bumps, stop signs. Oh, it will prolly get political until someone gets hit by a speeding car or a child getting killed BEFORE safety concerns come to order……

45 itsme September 19, 2013 at 11:01 AM

I’m tired of being tailgated on Concord Blvd. People the speed limit is only 35!!! Slow the heck down! There used to be a lot of motorcycle cops out there with radar. What happened to them? There are several schools on that street.

46 Paul September 19, 2013 at 11:20 AM

People are rude a-holes, that’s all there is to it. It’s not that hard, you know when you’re in a residential area, the houses and yards are kind of a giveaway. I always drive 25 in residential areas, and if there are kids out, people on bikes, etc. I go even slower.

I live off Mendocino in Forest Park, and with the 3 schools, parks, and neighborhood pool right in this neighborhood, I have to deal with these rude, dangerous f-sticks on a daily basis.

And yeah, we tried the whole “traffic calming” thing…what a joke. We did all the paperwork, the petitions, surveys were done, metering, etc. And during this time period (about 1 year), there were 4 wrecks, 1 involving a pedestrian. And what happened? NOTHING. You literally have to have serious injuries or “preferably” a death to give you a high enough score for the city to even begin giving a s***. But yet I’ve been on many streets in Concord with the speed bumps/tables that don’t have close to the number of schools, traffic, etc. Makes perfect sense.

47 anonanonagain September 19, 2013 at 11:23 AM

It’s a residential neighborhood and the posted speed limit is 25 most if not all residential neighborhoods.
Also there is a school close by and students and people need to drive safely.
It seems that parents are in a rush to get their kids off to school. Not a good excuse to speed……

48 Blink September 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Neighborhood speeders are everywhere….if Cal can record the problem why can’t city do and take make changes…same is true of concord blvd, parkside dr, the alameda
If revenue is needed…..there could be tickets just waiting to be written

Pegasus ….you seem a bit pompous, not everyone has the luxury of living anywhere they chose, those streets were adequate at one time

49 Senior Citizen September 19, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Speed is a problem not only on our residential streets but even the main ones. I constantly see cars and trucks exceeding the speed limit on Clayton Road and Treat Blvd. To begin with the speed limit on Clayton and Treat are too high tor todays traffic. 40 and 45MPH is way too high for our traffic today. I see lots of double double rock haulers exceeding the 40MPH limit daily on Clayton Road and also running the Red lights! I understand that the police have major crimes to solve but we need them to really allocate some manpower towards curbing the speed and red light issues. It’s only because someone up there is watching over us that we don’t have more bad accidents on theses roads.

50 ConcordMike September 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Venice Drive in Concord. Short street without sped bumps, so people fly down to avoid Granada which has speed bumps. Narrow street with cars parked.
Not much you can do about it though. CPD is too busy with more serious calls for service.
Does CPD still have that trailer with a radar attached and the big LED sign that reads your speed?

51 Kathi September 19, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Slow down on Farm Bureau rd Everyone TOO FAST.

52 Cal September 19, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Calibration was done by PB Electronics and we tested it that day by driving past the gun in both directions using a GPS unit and the cars speedometer as a reference. I also questioned the speed of the bicycle and could of left it out of the video. Its the same folks speeding everyday in the morning. The little red Porsche comes out of the Canterbury neighbor. Before she gets to Joan Avenue (and out of her neighborhood) she goes over 2 speed bumps, stops at 2 stop signs, then as she turns onto Joan there are 2 dips in the road. After living here for 30 years, I can live with the speeding but I’m not sure the kids will continue to live with it.

53 anon September 19, 2013 at 11:55 AM

The bottom line folks is obey the posted speed limits. IT’S THE LAW.

54 skippy September 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Good luck Cal. I have had speeders, mostly young males in my neighborhood for years. I have tried talking to them, yelling at them, leaving notes on their cars about kids, pets, etc., to to avail. The young male mind just doesn’t care or think about consequences (David Rosen?). The city was a no-go as well, when I gathered the required 5 signatures to have a speed bump study done. Never followed through.

55 Anon September 19, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Because if you raise the speed limit to 35mph, they will drive 50mph!

56 Steve September 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

For those that don’t think these cars are going too fast, try pulling out of a driveway on this street! And what about the people that fail to stop when on La Vista crossing Joan Ave.

57 Steve September 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM

@43 Why not raise the speed limit on Joan Ave? Because it’s not safe. Get yourself over here and try to pull out of one of the driveways and you will see how unsafe it is. Lets raise the speed limit to 40mph for the street you live on and see how you like it.

58 Jo September 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Speed bumps! I would like those installed on Myrtle Drive! It’s like a speedway.

59 S September 19, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Whew! I’ve been seeing alot of police / cops on my drive to/around YVR and Oak Grove Rd this week, I think it was Tues, then today, a couple motorcycles, a car, etc. pulling people over. What’s going on?

60 M. T September 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM

@S
It’s a safety issue….

61 Buddy September 19, 2013 at 3:01 PM

I have lived off of Joan for over 30 years, don’t see a problem with the speed limit. What needs to be done is trim the bushes at the corners and not park right on the corner so we can see oncoming traffic that’s flying down Joan, most times you have to stick out into the oncoming traffic lane to see

62 Noell Crosse September 19, 2013 at 3:38 PM

I kind of glossed through the comments above so if I missed it, please don’t go bite my head off.

We have been having somewhat of the same issue on our street in Concord as well. We live on Walnut Ave. My husband recently installed video cameras so we could catch the action that takes place almost on a daily basis.

People, trying to avoid the speed bump in front of our house and I suspect kids just wanting to have fun, are purposely spinning out on the gravel in the front of our property. It usually just ends up with them spraying gravel all over our yard and driveway, but this last week one of the drivers almost lost control of his truck and took out the neighbors fence.

Luckily no one has been seriously hurt yet. My question is, what department should we contact or where could we send the video to where we could get some help on either getting the bump moved or having sidewalks put in so this doesn’t happen anymore?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I’d like to try and upload the video here so people could see what I’m talking about.

These drivers will literally cross over the double yellow line just to spin out in our gravel. One of these days they are going to end up wrapped around the tree in our front yard. I just hope no one ever ends up getting seriously hurt or worse.

63 Mike September 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM

All those people are using Joan & Cape Cod Way to cut through the neighborhood & skip lights/traffic.
People drive just as fas down Cape Cod Way (I live on it).

64 streets September 19, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Know what you mean, Mike, all that traffic. We have the same problem off of Springwood Way and Bishop Drive.

65 Charles Lindbergh September 19, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Bla bla bla. This is a lawless country. The fed don’t follow some state and local law. States ignore federal law. city’s do what they want. Every one drives on the phone. You speed on my street. I speed on yours. Get over your self , you break the law every day. The ones you don’t care about, or think are important. Your all hypocrites. And I bet you have sped down your own street before. But because it was you, you found some way to rationalize it. Or Don’t even realize you do it.

66 annonamoose September 19, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Good luck with your desire to slow
down the traffic in your neighborhood.
One needs to drive through residential
areas as if your best friends dog is just
about to run into the street in front of
your car.

67 Miss Ranchogirl September 19, 2013 at 8:21 PM

You think you are the only street that has speeders?
Think again.
I suggest to add a 3-way, or 4 way-stop at anyl residential crossings. That will slow things a bit!

68 anon September 19, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Cal – do you speak for all of your neighbors? I doubt it. Also, do know that there have been studies showing that stop signs don’t reduce speeds. In fact, people speed up to make up for the time lost at the stop sign. Google it, I did and found many studies siting this fact. Also stop signs and speed humps increase noise and exhaust pollution in your neighborhood as people speed up after crossing them. And many vehicles are noisy when going over the bumps. You should talk to people that have bumps right in front of their homes. And humps increase the response times for emergency vehicles – just ask a fire fighter or paramedic. Perhaps you should get together with your neighbors and form an HOA to pay for roadway improvements. And no, the city shouldn’t have to spend my tax dollars to put humps on your street. You and your neighbors can pay for it. And while you are at it, why don’t you pay to have Joan and La Vista widened and improved with curbs, gutters and sidewalks, because studies show that improved roadways are safer.

69 Cracky McGee September 19, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Cal, I wish I had you as a neighbor!

70 Joe Biden September 20, 2013 at 12:15 AM

Just one word: “Spike Strips”

71 stella September 20, 2013 at 2:08 AM

actually, Joe Biden, that’s two words. =)

72 foxylady September 20, 2013 at 3:05 AM

Dont forget people roads were built to move cars not shelter playing children. Keep your children and your pets safe by keeping them in your yards. You cannot control every errant driver in your neighborhhod. You only have control over yourself and your children. Put forth the effort to make sure your children have a safe place to play and quit worrying about what every body else is doing. You don’t own the road you only live on it.

73 babytruck September 20, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Paul, #46. The neighbors feel that all of their requests and petitions are falling on deaf ears? Don’t give up! If there’s a will, there’s a way…. :D

http://www.theparkcatalog.com/traffic-control-parking-lot-equipment/speed-bumps-and-speed-humps?gclid=CJqc8aWc2rkCFTCCQgodJAIAkQ

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