Walnut Creek: Public Hearing Scheduled for September 17 to Review Secondhand Smoke Ordinance

September 12, 2013 10:06 am · 38 comments

On September 17 at 7:00 p.m., the Walnut Creek City Council will conduct the first reading of a proposed Secondhand Smoke Ordinance for Walnut Creek.

The proposed ordinance would prohibit smoking in all Multi-Unit Residences, the Pedestrian Retail Zone (core downtown), all Recreational Areas and all Commercially Zoned Property where the following criteria exist: Outdoor Dining Areas, Outdoor Service Areas (i.e. ATMS, bus stops, ticket lines), within 25’ of Entryways and Operable Windows, and all Public Places.

The public hearing will be in the Council Chambers at City Hall, 1666 North Main Street.  All meetings are televised live on Comcast Channel 28 and on Astound Cable Channel 29.

unknown September 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Second hand smoke kills.

Paul September 12, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Wow, another way for WCPD to generate funding. This area is becoming way too over regulated.

Mac September 12, 2013 at 10:28 AM

It cracks me up, that the neighbors that house is on the other side of my back yard fence.
Sit outside and smoke on their deck, so there house does not fill up or smell like smoke.
But i can have my sliding door opened in my kitchen.
And the smoke pours in my house.
I`ve had to go over and close it many times.
When i wanted fresh air in my house.
But was getting smoked out instead.

If these people don`t want their house smelling like smoke.
That is cool.
But don`t fill my house full of your smoke instead.

For so much smoke to be pouring in our direction.
They must be smoking a large number of them.
Because it comes over in sheets. (i think there are 3 of them smoking at a time)

So i totally agree with second hand smoke being a concern.
Because it does kill.
If people want to smoke.
They should do it in a area where it does not affect anyone but themselves.
And not blowing in the direction of other people.
Because it does smell like sh!t and it kills

Werner Tyron Fitzgerald IV September 12, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Sounds like the Cigar shop on Alpine is safe from this ordinance. Its a great place to chat and enjoy a favorite cigar.

Some people hate the smell of BBQ, should everyone be banned from BBQing? Some people hate the smell of perfume so let’s ban perfume. Both BBQ and perfume can be harmful to people who have breathing problems.

Its impossible to control the entire population. If people ever get back to respecting one another, this may not be such a huge issue.

Denise September 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Quit smoking……

Watch It Buddy September 12, 2013 at 11:04 AM

This is ridiculous, you buy property and then the city tells you what you can do with that property. It should be the opposite, if you don’t like smoke hey don’t move into that building.
Yes, I’m a smoker and I do respect the rights of non smokers. However when it comes to my personal space, don’t tell me what to do. Next it will be an alarm saying they had wine and are going to their car. Oh, then watch all hell brake loose.

Freedom is gone ! September 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Read the Liberty Amendments. We need to stop this tyranny.

Mac's neighbor September 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM

I find your chronic flatulence offensive. I think we should ban your tailpipe emissions instead of my smoke.

Smoking is still legal. Deal with it.

Rob September 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM

I’m hoping they will include smoke from POT smokers as well??

When I lived in WC a couple of years ago some potheads lived below my apartment and it stunk like weed all the time…. thats just as dangerous as cigarette smoke.

Rob September 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM

People still smoke?

nonewtaxesinwc September 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM

if you smoke leave WC…nuf said

People still smoke? September 12, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Really? People still smoke despite all the education about how nothing good comes from it? Let me guess, these are the same people who think smoking marijuana is safe too. LOL!!!! See y’all at your funeral.


Watch and Learn September 12, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Second hand smoke doesn’t kill reliably. We’ve been smoking on our deck trying to kill out next door nieghbor but so far he’s still alive. Sometimes we get another person so there’s three of us. There’s a lot of hand waving and dirty looks but so far no sign of respitory illness.

RC September 12, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Mac’s neighbor sounds like a ass. So much for being considerate to your neighbor

funny guy September 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Thanks Obama

Mac September 12, 2013 at 12:26 PM

@ Mac`s neighbor`s….. Then smoke your sh!t inside your house then

Yes, it is legal.
But it also kills.
So no, i wont deal with it.
But i may go kick some a$$ over it.
Want to be a part of it ?

Don`t understand how other people can push their deadly smoke in other people direction. And feel they have the right too.

WC Williams September 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I would hope the ordinance passes but WC police will never enforce it so why bother?

Dorothy September 12, 2013 at 1:09 PM

People have the right, still, to smoke and commit slow suicide. Second hand smoke might be considered slow murder. The results don’t show up for years.

People who have given up smoking can become very sensitive to it to the point where just being around someone who still smokes can cause an asthma attack.

GT September 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM

smokers are not a protected class. Second hand smoke is just as bad.
Have you ever tried to enter a building where 3 or 4 people are outside smoking and you have to walk through their smoke and then smell nasty

Nicole September 12, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I hope everyone quits smoking! But it’s asking for a lot.

People smoke because they’re addicted, whether they enjoy it or not. I pray they get healthy.

Blink September 12, 2013 at 1:35 PM

If landlords of medium to hi density housing could be sued for contributing to health issues ,…..you’d have non smoking complexes better air for it

Tobacco farming should be illegal…

Watched a guy light up outside Luna yesterday while he sipped his Starbucks and was pushed out of shape because he couldn’t sit outside..and puff away….

Elwood September 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Ban everything opposed by the PC tyrants everywhere!

old concord September 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Please law enforcement protect us from our self . Way to much law enforcement in our everyday life .Lose the attitude life revolves you . We should be able to live without this bad law .

Anon September 12, 2013 at 2:18 PM

@Rob…pot smoke would have to be excluded as there is a “medical need” for it…My question then becomes…research has shown that pot effects child developement and yet they keep legalizing it and because there is a “medical need” cannot ban it from being smoked…So what about my 2 daughters…is the second hand smoke from the pot that still carries the drug THC that travels into my yard and house not equally as dangerous and yet a pot smoker is OK…let’s face it folks…we live in a fukd up world

Jim September 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Why should tobacco farming be illegal…last I checked we allow pot farms to exist, which by the way is a federal crime….tobacco is still legal in this country…

Cindy September 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM

I am opposed to this plan. There are not enough shelter beds. If there were already adequate services in place, then you could say they have to go take advantage of the services that are provided. But since we have not provided adequate services, what do you expect the homeless to do? Starve? Die?

How can they get a job? Have you ever spoken with them? They are mostly so mentally ill that they could never work.

The homeless are the weakest citizens among our community. We should be talking about ways in which we can help them. Instead, you are talking about ways we can make their already difficult existence even more difficult.

Take some of your comments and apply to some other group, then you can hear how predjudiced your remarks sound.

You say, “I don’t want to see them, send them to another town, etc”. Apply that to some ethnic group and you can hear what a bigot you sound like.

People who are mentally ill need help. They need assistance, they need services. When these services do not exist. Or they are not adequate to meet the needs, the homeless will turn to panhandling.

I am so ashamed of my community after reading most of your comments.

Cindy September 12, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Comment was meant to be posted on the other article about the ordinance to ban panhandling

Enough BS! September 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM


It’s all BS! I don’t like perfumes either but I tolerate it.

All should read the article. Know it all’s need not to reply clearly you’ve been brain washed.

Ricardoh September 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM

This is how dumb this idea is. Everyone is afraid of one person walking down the street or in a park smoking. Why don’t they try this. Put your car in your garage, start it up and open the door between the garage and the interior of your home. Let the car run for about five minutes and see how healthy the inside of your home is. Now take a walk downtown and count the cars that pass you by in five minutes. Now sit there and tell me that person walking down the street smoking is going to wreck your day. You don’t like smoke I don’t like your face or your bratty kid or your dog sniffing me or the fact that you block the sidewalk and walk too slow. Get over it people you are going to eventually have someone needlessly gore your ox for no good reason .

Walnut Creek Resident September 12, 2013 at 5:21 PM

I am thrilled that Walnut Creek is taking charge for a problem that will be no more. I am sick of smokers messing up my air! My neighbors that recently moved in thought it was ok to smoke outside in their patio! No way. The management here ordered him to smoke a block
away from us outside in his patio because all his gross smoke was filling
up my beautiful loft apartment with heavy cigarette smoke. Ha Ha.. I also resent the fact that where he smokes now he takes all of his smoking friends outside and they leave their butts all over our carport. My next
request that we get them to pick up their toxic butts!

Elwood September 12, 2013 at 8:02 PM

@ Walnut Creek Resident #30

Good God, what a twit!

Yall will never be happy September 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM

WC Resident….. is it lonely on that pedestal? You have nothing better to do right?
Mac….. takes a real bad a$$ to talk smack on a blog and not actually to someones face. Please! HA!
The snobs of WC crack me up. So glad I don’t have to be around them.

Angelica September 12, 2013 at 9:51 PM

My husband and I are homeowners in WC.

I don’t like smoke, but I don’t care if people smoke. It’s a free country.

As long as they don’t do anything foolish. Like blow the smoke into our kids faces, which doesn’t happen.

It’s an addiction. I’m sure a lot of smokers would like to quit. I wish them well.

Anon September 13, 2013 at 7:06 AM

WOW! When are they going to ban alcohol??? I bet drinking causes more death to others (drunk driving anyone) then walking by someone with a lit cigarette (since that takes all of 10 seconds or less). Smokers in this day in age seem to be pretty polite. Mostly because they are looked upon like second class citizens. I think they need to spend more time doing something about all the drunks at the bars downtown. That would be time better spent.

Mac September 13, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Don`t try and push blame onto other subjects.
This is about people smoking something that kills many people a year.
And pushing their second hand smoke onto others that are trying to live healthy.

If you all want to kill yourselves slowly.
GO FOR IT….I really don`t care.

But don`t think for a sedond, it is OK for any of you to make me breath in smoke i don`t want too.

Your lucky that you don`t get slapped across the face.

And if you were so polite, you`d smoke where it does not affect anyone but you

So don`t blame others, it sounds like a little kid

Yall will never be happy September 13, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Mac you sound like a little kid. Who is pushing smoke on you? Really you are a grown person if you dont like it walk away. Simple solution! Nobody pushes smoke on anyone, that is the most ridiculous statement I have heard in a long time. I see smokers on a daily basis none of those people “push” smoke on me in fact there have been several times when the said smoker goes out of his/her way to stay away from us. Go take your meds and calm the heck down…… for goodness sakes.

Dennis September 13, 2013 at 9:53 PM

@Mac one day of the Clayton fire caused you more medical damage than a lifetime of catching an occasional whiff of a cigarette. I guarantee you slapping a smoker is going to be waaaay more hazardous to your health. Meanwhile, when you kick the bucket 50 years from now, you can blame it on the neighbor kid that peed in your pool last Summer.

ConcordKid September 14, 2013 at 5:48 AM


I smoke pot/cigs…I can agree with some of you, others not. I do respect my neighbors. I live in a housing complex and most everyone is friendly. I smoke on my porch where I know it can’t get into anybodies windows. When I’m walking anywhere I make sure to walk across street or away from other people walking. One time I was at cowell sitting on a bench with a few friends and I was having a cig.. I saw two ladies walking and one was pushing a stroller. They got probably 100 feet away… and I immediately walked into the grass away from the path. The ladies both waved at me and thanked me for what I had done, instead of just mugging me. It was cool that they saw that I cared about other peoples sensitivities. BUT, if I want to smoke and kill myself (as they say) then I’m going to do it. I try my best to respect everybody around me. I go to tower grilll in downtown concord. No smoking in todo santos. I walk to the back of the parking lot in the corner where nobody is and have my cig. is that not alright? I dont’ smoke weed in public. I won’t sit in front of a store and smoke a cig. At least not in front. I always do my best to respect others but I’m not perfect. Too many laws these days. Can they please ban all these big (butt) trucks that are pumping all this poison in the air, probably a lot worse then cigs. I bet alcohol is a lot safer right?

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