BART Workers Still Striking – Talks Between Union & BART to Resume Today

July 3, 2013 10:26 am · 24 comments

BART labor negotiations ended unsuccessfully early this morning and are scheduled to resume this afternoon, according to a BART spokesman.

Contract talks ended at 3 a.m. and are scheduled to resume at 1 p.m. today, BART spokesman Jim Allison said.

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1 Tell them not to cave. July 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Find your BART director here: http://www.bart.gov/about/bod/ and call or e-mail them telling them not to give in to the Union’s absurd demands!

2 Anonymous July 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Desaulnier calls for returning to bargaining.How ballsy! How about calling for them to go back to work?

Mouthpiece for union bosses. That’s what we are stuck with.

3 Em Dubya July 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM

SEIU DOPE #1: If this strike doesn’t end soon I might have to cancel my trip to Maui this year.

SEIU DOPE #2: Wasn’t there some 1%’er banker in the time share unit next to yours last year?

#1: Yeah. I hate the way those guys take money from working people so they can live like kings.

#2: I hear you. If we don’t get a living wage soon, I’ll have to keep towing my boat with my 2007 Cadillac Escalade instead of a new one.

#1: Yeah, that sucks. Management is screwing you.

4 Damn liars July 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM

BART Board cancelled the meeting. Rescheduled for the 4th. They are the ones who arent even trying to reach an agreement. Don’t blame the unions.

5 Elwood July 3, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Latest pathetic union picket sign (Page 1 today’s CCTimes):

“Stop the Violence”

Little known fact:

There have been 8,617 assaults on station agents by naked acrobat freaks.

They were probably just trying to get the attention of the station agent away from the magazines they were reading.

6 WC44 July 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM

If I were running BART I would not make any counter proposal until Sunday. Let them miss a few more workdays. As a commuter I can go easily for week or two riding the free Bus to SF. Can BART employees miss a paycheck or two?

7 Dorothy July 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM

If the unions are so concerned about safety, why isn’t it at the top of their list of demands? If they think safety is so important, why don’t they just drop the rest of the list and concentrate just on the safety issues. And I do agree there are real safety issues except no one seems to put them at the top.

If management is so concerned about safety, why not insist that it be the only issue worth talking about? They are well aware of them already so they should have addressed them in the regular workday settings, not wait for it to become an minor union issue. I say minor because it’s at the bottom of everyone’s list.

8 WOW...they "bargained" until 3 AM..... July 3, 2013 at 12:06 PM

that’s about the time most people were getting up and ready for their 4 hour commute.

9 Ricardoh July 3, 2013 at 12:25 PM

If I hear one more person yelling ,”What do we want” I am going to flip my lid. I have been on strike in my younger days but we didn’t go around screaming like a bunch of fools. Carry your sign and shut up. In fact go back to work you are already overpaid.

10 anon July 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Don’t cave in. I am tired of Union Leaders thinking they are the Mafia and bullying and pushing their way around. They want to strike let them strike, let them go weeks without pay. The commute nightmare is just temporary, people will get rides worked out and the longer the strike goes on the easier it will be. Just my opinion

11 Note to SEIU Members July 3, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Don’t you see the negative image you are creating for yourselves?

You are not only making yourselves look bad, but you are creating a negative image of all unions.

You are an embarrassment, You guy’s make me sick!

The 400,000 commuters that you are screwing over are also 400,000 voters that you are pissing off. SEIU are a disgrace, Wake up Idiots!

12 Lorelei July 3, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Fire ALL of them, including management! Then, hire and train new employees and dress them in uniforms that say “New Employee.” I’ll bet they would get more respect than the current ones if/when they go back to work. Also, they will know that their asses will be canned if they don’t walk the line. The rest of us have to do what our bosses require of us, or we can just find another job. They can too.

13 Anon July 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Isn’t it strange that every transportation issue that comes up -Senator Desaulnier has a press release for?Yet when his union buddies shut the system down he refuses to support his constituents and call for them to go back to work?

He calls on people to keep talking. What a leader!

14 anon July 3, 2013 at 3:39 PM

It’s a joke to see them on “strike”. On San Miguel it looks more like they are tailgating.

15 Elwood July 3, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Feel the love!

16 Anon July 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Fire them all

17 jack farrell July 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM

fire them all! i`ll take there job, it would be better than retiring

18 Ever wonder how much they make! July 3, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Data Center: Current and projected average BART wages
by Daniel J. Willis
Bay Area News Group
Posted: 07/02/2013 05:35:14 PM PDT
Updated: 07/03/2013 10:53:13 AM PDT

To help you keep track of where both sides stand in the BART contract negotiations, here are our best estimates of current average salaries by bargaining unit based on the 2012 Public Employee Salary Database, as well as the projected future salaries under both proposed contracts as of 8 pm on July 2.

This page will be updated as new contracts are proposed. Last updated 10:52 am July 3 to include non-union pay averages and bargaining unit information.

Current pay averages

Average Base* Median Base* Average Gross* Median Gross*
AFSCME $91,371.29 $93,060.11 $104,392.04 $104,392.04
ATU $56,184.97 $62,614.00 $78,369.22 $77,782.57
BPMA $106,271.37 $109,638.48 $145,137.39 $142,576.74
BPOA $74,170.49 $77,735.09 $98,864.11 $93,940.11
SEIU $63,529.55 $73,410.40 $77,587.35 $80,504.36
Non-Union $106,006.04 $107,768.96 $110,936.99 $113,619.45

* Averages based on the 2012 pay of employees on the books as of July 2, 2013. Click here for a complete list of 2012 BART employee salaries.

Projected average pay under the BART and union contract proposals

BART Proposal (Min)** BART Proposal (Max)** Union Proposal***
AFSCME 2013 $105,978.37 $106,720.92 $111,374.22
2014 $107,231.42 $108,740.65 $118,452.09
2015 $108,500.14 $110,800.78 $126,004.18
2016 $109,784.71 $112,902.11
ATU 2013 $79,263.23 $79,799.63 $83,161.09
2014 $80,168.41 $81,258.65 $88,274.01
2015 $81,084.90 $82,246.84 $93,729.50
2016 $82,012.85 $84,264.81
BPMA 2013 $146,828.14 $147,842.59 $154,199.81
2014 $148,540.02 $150,601.89 $163,869.42
2015 $150,273.31 $153,416.38 $174,186.89
2016 $152,028.26 $156,287.17
BPOA 2013 $100,019.74 $100,713.11 $105,058.25
2014 $101,189.80 $102,599.09 $111,667.40
2015 $102,374.50 $104,522.78 $118,719.37
2016 $103,574.00 $106,484.95
SEIU 2013 $78,477.62 $79,011.78 $82,359.21
2014 $79,379.02 $80,464.71 $87,450.79
2015 $80,291.69 $81,946.70 $92,883.51
2016 $81,215.77 $83,458.32

** Projected averages calculated by applying the pay increase reported by BART on July 2, 2013 to 2012 average base and overtime pay and assuming that other contributions to gross pay will stay consistent. BART’s contract proposal includes additional increases conditional on economic conditions, therefore the column “BART Proposal (Min)” is the guaranteed 1.25% increase while the column “BART Proposal (Max)” is the 2% increase if all economic conditions are met.
*** Projected averages calculated by applying the reported pay increase to 2012 average base and overtime pay and assuming that other contributions to gross pay will stay consistent. Several calls to multiple union representatives were not returned so the “Union Proposal” column assumes the 20.1% increase over three years reported in this and other publications. This table will be updated if necessary when we receive a reply from the negotiating unions.

Name Members Common Job Titles Status
AFSCME American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees 216 Train Controller
Operations Supv Tentative Agreement
ATU Amalgamated Transit Union 929 Train Operator
Station Agent On Strike
BPMA BART Police Managers’ Association 45 Police Sergeant
Police Lieutenant Negotiating
BPOA BART Police Officers’ Association 211 Police Officer
Community Services Officer Negotiating
SEIU Service Employees International Union 1,438 Transit Vehicle Mechanic
Utility Worker On Strike

19 Em Dubya July 3, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Status check:

BART SUCKS, still.

Union nitwits spending days broiling in the sun, miss holiday pay tomorrow. Next payment on Harley chrome work due next week, maybe a collection can be taken up at the union hall….

20 A Question July 3, 2013 at 7:07 PM

What are our elected leaders like DeSaulnier doing? Nothing.
Scared of the union.

21 NOT HAPPY July 4, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Is anyone interested putting a referendum on the ballot so they can’t strike again? Otherwise, 4 years from now, you’ll go through this again. While I support unions, I don’t support hurting poor working people who are paying for this with outrageous parking fees, impossible commute options and stress beyond belief. If I could think of something to do to Bart management, I would support that as well. I think BOTH sides are at fault, but it’s the commuters who are paying the price!

22 Fritzhugh Ludlow July 4, 2013 at 6:48 PM

When they name a transit agency after a Stage Coach Robber What did You expect?

23 bluebird July 4, 2013 at 7:17 PM

@ #22: It’s an acronym.

24 Dr. Jellyfinger July 4, 2013 at 8:31 PM

No bluebird, that’s wrong. Black Bart wasn’t a cronym, he was white.

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