The Water Cooler – Horse Meat

February 26, 2013 · 66 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday in the noon hour.

Would you, or have you ever eaten horse meat?

Talk about it….

1 Triple Canopy February 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

It’s your personal opinion and upbringing on what is OK and not OK to eat.
Yep… I’ve eaten alligator, crocodile, snake, a Filipino delicacy called “balut”, pigeon, squirrel, raccoon, and opossum.

2 Howard K. Mullins III February 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

I believe I would not and I believe I have not.

But then again, sometimes you just can’t be sure.

3 Anon2you February 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Nay

4 Mr. John February 26, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I think we all have – probably without knowing it.

Is there a reason to treat it substantially different than eating cow meat?

5 Horse's Ass February 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM

I say naaaaaaay to horsemeat.

6 old concord February 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM

I ate horse in Germany 1967. It was like eating cow but it does have a differant taste. I would need to develope that tastefor it. I’m a cow man=)

7 Huskerfan February 26, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Yes, I would eat horse meat. How much different can it be than beef. I am sure it would be a lot leaner since horses are more active.

8 JW February 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM

If you have eaten a hot dog, you have eaten some pretty gnarly stuff. We injest so much garbage in our food, I am sure that horse meat is the least of our worries. Most people do not know what any of the ingrediants are on the backs of packages.

9 Cracky McGee February 26, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Not itentionally. Be careful when purchasing meatloaf …

10 The Mamba February 26, 2013 at 12:29 PM

I just had some Ikea meatballs at a Super Bowl party, they were delcious!

11 too February 26, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Taste like chicken!

12 Elwood February 26, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Blech!

13 Felino February 26, 2013 at 12:47 PM

In the immortal words of Chris Rock, I’d eat a pigs a##, if it was cooked right!!!

14 anon February 26, 2013 at 12:56 PM

My husband and I are vegetarians mostly due to religious reasons. (And,yes, we are Christians.) It is a healthier lifestyle, too. The images and stories of the suffering that animals have to go through just so we can kill them and eat them is also a great deterrent to eat meat for me.

15 Mooley February 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

at Old Spaghetti Factory in Concord with old noodles and mizithrah cheese

16 GoGo Gomez February 26, 2013 at 1:06 PM

No..but I bet it’s good…if cooked right.

17 Mr Ed February 26, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Nooo Wilber, don’t eat me. I’ll be good,I promise.

18 Parsnip February 26, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Ick.

No, I’m safe and secure in my own little world. Dining on Mr. Ed is not on the list.

19 Dorothy February 26, 2013 at 1:13 PM

No and no. But have had buffalo.

20 Parsnip February 26, 2013 at 1:14 PM

@old concord #6 — Germany? 1967? Please don’t say in Nuremberg/Fuerth. I was just learning to speak German …

21 Felino February 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Roast Horse with beefradish, yummy….

22 Yes Yes & Yes February 26, 2013 at 1:22 PM

I used to work for a horse retailer in another state. We would slaughter horses and ship the meat overseas, where it is a delicasy in many countries. If cooked correctly, the meat is very sweet, tangy and juicy. If I could get it I would eat it more often. I used to eat it about once a month back in the 90’s. It’s no different than eating a cow. If you can eat a cow then why not a horse?

23 TOB February 26, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Missing the point.. Horse meat won’t hurt you but it’s a crime when you pay high cost of beef and it’s watered down so to speak with Horse. I have little doubt USA has same problems. I don’t think we do DNA testing on beef..

Think most are missing this point.. How much money stolen by misleading and labeling products. Just wait as Beef prices are about to sky rocket and live stock inventories are low and be a while to make up for the drought and kill off of herds. Makes this even more important that you get what you pay for.

TC nice to know someone else has had Balut. Never again, lol!

24 Carrot top February 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM

@anon#14

Just because you can’t hear a plant scream as you’re ripping it out by the roots doesn’t mean that it doesn’t feel pain You are just choosing one life form over another. FREE MY VEGETABLE BRETHREN!!!

25 KJ February 26, 2013 at 1:33 PM

I ate it. I didn’t know that’s what I was eating, though, I thought it was beef. I also ate donkey when I was in Spain, but again I didn’t know it wasn’t beef. I wasn’t terribly happy when I learned what I had eaten, but in truth, eating horse is no different than eating a cow, deer, or elk; they are all beautiful animals.

Now I hardly ever eat meat, especially red meat; there are so many gorgeous vegetables available, which I find far more interesting than a slab of meat.

26 Antler February 26, 2013 at 1:49 PM

When I was a very young child during WW2, meat was rationed. Sometimes we were fortunate enough to get horsemeat, which was delicious! If it was canned, Mother made a hash with potatoes and onions. But if it was a butcher-counter roast, she braised it in an iron skillet with carrots, onions, potatoes, pepper and salt, with pan juice gravy made after the roast was lifted….just the same as she prepared beef pot roast. So my answer would be “yes” to both questions, but I do want the labeling to be accurate!!!

27 anon February 26, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Lol Carrot Top. I will try to have more chocolate today and spare some of your veggie relatives.

28 Anon777 February 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM

If I knew what it was, I would NOT eat it.

29 Larrabee February 26, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Not knowingly. I always liked Jolly’s beefburgers, but one time I went there and the burgers didn’t taste right; not spoiled, just “not right”. I heard later they got caught using horsemeat, and closed up for good shortly thereafter.

30 CVHS Class of '89 February 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

what else are horses good for nowadays?…….Chow down i say!

31 Do you actually know what you just ate February 26, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Given what is going on in England with regards to horsemeat, (can you say Burger King?) how do we truly know what we are eating?
Information just came out that about a 3rd of the fish we eat, whether from the store or restaurant is not what we are paying for. Their mercury levels are also fabricated.
Before you vegetarians and vegans say “told you so”, these are the same people telling you it was grown and processed “organically”.

32 Enfield303 February 26, 2013 at 2:08 PM

@Felino#21

HAHAHA…beefradish.

33 AJ Buttacavoli February 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Nope – I am a fish and chicken guy.

34 ANONONONON February 26, 2013 at 2:10 PM

@Felino

If you think Chris was just being funny, look up “imitation calamari”.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/imitation-calamari-sliced-pig-rectum_n_2482063.html

You might have had it if you weren’t careful.

35 Anon February 26, 2013 at 2:29 PM

So anyone here who does or would eat horse would also eat dog and cat, right?

Horses are very different than cows. Horses live for their people just like dogs and cats do. Horses live to be 30-40 years old. They serve us faithfully and whole-heartedly, not only by greeting and loving us just like a dog or cat, but by carrying us on their backs for miles, hours, years, and after 4 days and countless miles on the trail, they still rest their sweet heads on our shoulders and crave our love and affection. Yes, horses are indeed different than cows. We expect so much devotion, obedience and respect from them and take from them continually until they are just too old to physically carry us. Then, once their bodies are too broken and tired from a lifetime of fulfilling your every request, you are left with a choice. If you love them like they love you, they live out the rest of their time as what my friends and I call “a lawn ornament”, keeping the grass short and still being loved despite age and/or work-induced lameness. If they are simply livestock to their monstrous owners they are sold to a feedlot and move from there on to slaughter, a hideous fate for an animal who’s heart beats for their person.

Cows spend all day chewing and being too stupid to go through the damned gate you need them to go through. It’s not unlike trying to herd a fly through an open window – and succeeding is a feat that anyone who has ever sorted cattle knows is achieved most quickly on the back of your horse, who protects you from the idiot bovine and reads your every cue to chase the complete maroons in the right direction.

I would never knowingly eat horse. If I found out I had and was part way through the meal I would vomit it up in front of everyone, right back onto the plate. That animal either worked its butt off for someone who didn’t know how to love, or was sold to slaughter before it had the chance to serve. Horses that are born unfit or too ill to live comfortably should be euthanized just like a dog or cat. They are not food. They are family. Ask your dog to drag your happy butt around on a sled and see what he does (unless he’s a husky or malamute, good luck). Better yet, try with a cat. Ha!

36 iscoffy February 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

I’m vegetarian, so the easy answer is no. However, if I did eat meat and it was a horse raised humanely for slaughter, I suppose I would. The issue for me is the killing of horses that were formerly someone’s riding or pet animal, both because of the various medications and injections the horse has probably had, and because killing and eating a domesticated animal not raised for food purposes isn’t something I’d like to do.

37 Carrot top February 26, 2013 at 2:42 PM

@anon #27

Mom thanks you:)

38 mika February 26, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Is there a reason, Mr, Mayor, why you are asking? Did a restaurant chain just get busted selling horsemeat?

39 Clayton Squirrel February 26, 2013 at 3:30 PM

People who raise horses deworm them and medicate them with chemicals that aren’t meant for human consumption. That’s another reason not to eat horse. Ranchers raising cattle know that the cattle are for human consumption and raise them accordingly. You don’t give a pig an injection in the rump either because it can ruin the future ham. I wouldn’t eat horse.

40 @ iscoffy February 26, 2013 at 3:37 PM

” However, if I did eat meat and it was a horse raised humanely for slaughter, I suppose I would.”

How does one raise a horse and then humanely “slaughter” it?? Do they inject the horse with a tranquilizer, buy it so many drinks that is unaware of anything around him, or put a mask and then use the gas used in a dentist’s office and then start dismembering it??
Here is the actual process of “humanely” slaughtering an animal, as you put it.

Stunning
The animal is then “stunned” using a percussion stunner like a Captive Bolt Stunner or a Mushroom Bolt Stun gun which injects a metal object directly into the brain of the animal, immediately losing consciousness. Cattle can also be “stunned” using electricity or carbon dioxide gas.

Bleeding
The cattle are then hung by their feet while their jugular and carotid vessels are sliced using a sharp knife. The animal is then “bled” resulting in death from cerebral anoxia, assuming they have not already been killed during stunning.

Stunning
The animal is then “stunned” using a percussion stunner like a Captive Bolt Stunner or a Mushroom Bolt Stun gun which injects a metal object directly into the brain of the animal, immediately losing consciousness. Cattle can also be “stunned” using electricity or carbon dioxide gas.

Bleeding
The cattle are then hung by their feet while their jugular and carotid vessels are sliced using a sharp knife. The animal is then “bled” resulting in death from cerebral anoxia, assuming they have not already been killed during stunning.

Watch the video the meat industry doesn’t want you to see.
http://www.ChooseVeg.com

Read more: How Are Cattle Slaughtered? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_6756179_cattle-slaughtered_.html#ixzz2M3FfTpbC

41 Missy February 26, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Won’t eat horsemeat, nor goat or rabbit or dog or cat. Mostly a psychological thing. I ride and show horses, so that pretty much explains why I won’t eat it.

42 anonanonagain February 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM

It would be hypocritical of me to say that I wouldn’t, couldn’t or ever eat horse meat, since I have eaten chicken, beef, and pork. I now only eat fish or shrimp because of the inhumane way we raise the animals, treat the animals and eventually kill the animals. Those farms are inhumane and to think of the ill treatment of those animals sickens me. Scoff if you want, but it is the choice that I made……

43 Constant Comment February 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM

@Anon#35

I had a calf named Babe and she was as loyal as my dog. She would follow me out to the mail box on the rural route we lived on. She would come when beckoned and was even useful to round up the goats when they would get out of their pen. I was just as satisfied to eat the goat meat. It was as good as beef. I didn’t slaughter Babe though. I let someone else do that and they sold the beef for me. I couldn’t bring myself to eat that particular batch. But I’m sure I had In-N-Out for dinner.
Animal style!!!!

44 CLAYCORD.com February 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Nobody got busted in Claycord. Just Burger King in the UK and IKEA.

45 Don't Censor Me Bro February 26, 2013 at 3:56 PM

@a#14

Will you acknowledge that God conducted the 1st animal sacrifice,in the Garden of Eden?

46 Me Too February 26, 2013 at 4:29 PM

We went to Iceland and had various local delicacies like whale and puffin. But for some reason, we couldn’t bring ourselves to eat the horse. I guess it is because horses are close to being considered pets for many in the US.

47 iscoffy February 26, 2013 at 4:39 PM

I said at the beginning that I am vegetarian, so I don’t eat any meat; this is partially because I find factory farm conditions disturbing. However, there are more humane ways to slaughter animals than the way it is done in high-volume process situations. In a small-scale, humane operation, I really don’t see the difference between a horse and a cow raised for food purposes, other than that Americans have attached mythic value to horses.

48 The Closer February 26, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Haven’t had horse(that I know of), but I’ve eaten a lot of crow over the years.

49 Atticus Thraxx February 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Man, whatever you do, do not go and research what happens to ground beef before it gets to you. And it would help to have a Chemistry background. At least horse meat is meat.

50 the Shi ite February 26, 2013 at 6:54 PM

I would say it is blasphemy to equate today’s slaughter to a sacrifice, well yes – I would agree that the way these animals are treated is the perfect and acceptable sacrifice to satan.
Meet your Meat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32IDVdgmzKA
But hey, if you think you’ll get nutrition and life force from something that just had the sh!t kicked of it and was totally disrespected worse than a pedophile, worse than sh!t – Go for it, keep conning yourself.

51 sillyfilly454 February 26, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Taking my screen name into consideration, it’s too disturbing for me to even think about…..

52 Anon February 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM

(If horses were carnivores, that is, lol)

53 lizzie February 26, 2013 at 7:02 PM

I only eat and smoke what I grow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

54 Connie Dobbs February 26, 2013 at 7:34 PM

#40 raises an excellent point, but #22 says people sell horsemeat to the Europeans. There is no doubt in my mind meat destined for the emerging world (not fair to call most of it ‘third world’ anymore, considering the shape we’re in) would be, um, chancy, but meat for Europe would be relatively pristine. They have meat inspectors, too, and they’re used to dealing with truly skeezy countries like Morocco and Romania.

I agree with you, #40, though. I love venison, but I feel the same way about eating local stuff as I would about eating urban pigeons.

Also we had pet goats that made milk and cheese. I will assume we ate some of them. I think I’ll ask Dad at our next family dinner. That ought to perk conversation up nicely.

55 Mom of the Horde. February 26, 2013 at 8:28 PM

I haven’t eaten horse, and I don’t plan on it either. I make it a point not to eat companion animals.

56 Scoob February 26, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Antler makes a point recalling WW2. If I was starving because of some war or disaster, I would definitely eat just about any animal except the long pig…

57 Triple Canopy February 26, 2013 at 8:50 PM

I have no problem killing animals for food. Killing animals and not consuming them is sinful.

58 Atticus Thraxx February 26, 2013 at 8:52 PM

You had me at “Meet your Meat” The Shi ite. No idea what the hell your talking about, but I liked that line.

59 Antler February 26, 2013 at 8:56 PM

I loved my grandmother’s chickens and her Jersey cow dearly (and yes, they did follow me around all vacation long and stay still to be petted). But as I said at #26, it was war time and we ate whatever we were fortunate enough to have someone put in front of us. Every Sunday the meal was fried chicken, and eventually the day came when the grownups explained that “my” sweet cow “had to be sold because she needed a bigger field with more grass”. (Actually, they had her butchered once she was too old to give milk, and then they bought a new cow. But no-one hit me between the eyes with the truth until years later.)

60 Ricardo February 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM

I have probably eaten everything that triple canope has eaten except the balut. Couldn’t do it. The Portiguese also eat Lopish, a small shell mollosk that lives on the seashore rocks, but you have to eat it live or it is poison. See no problem eating horse. As to slaughter. When the cows on the dairy I worked for as a kid, got low on production, I sometimes took them to the slaughter house, where they were led up a ramp onto the second floor, where they were shot in the back of the head with a .22. They then dropped down a shoot, where their throats were cut and they were immediately hung up by their back legs to bleed out into a cystern. The blood was used for fertilizer. Nothing on the cow was wasted and I mean nothing. My dad told me that before my time, they just used a gread big guy with a sledge hammer to the back of the head. Sorry for the descriptions but that was and still is how its done in many parts of this country. Maybe I made some more vegitarians today.

61 IUsedToLiveInConcord February 26, 2013 at 10:20 PM

I’m so hungry I could eat a horse!!……LULZ!

62 Never February 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM

To my knowledge I have never eaten horsemeat and I never will. I barely eat beef, lamb or pork. My diet is most veggies, chicken and fish.

63 what security February 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM

I’d rather eat horse meet than any of that processed food from fast food places, and packaged food you buy in the isles of safeway. They are loaded with additives to make it taste better, and are full of chemicals.
At least I know it’s horse meat.

I’m all for the Mediterranean diet anyway.

64 Mimi (original) February 27, 2013 at 10:15 AM

The Meems is a very cautious eater – no horse meat, no buffalo, no squid for Meems.

65 Alistair Overeem February 27, 2013 at 10:44 AM
66 What Security February 27, 2013 at 4:16 PM

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