The Water Cooler – Criminals & Judges

February 5, 2013 12:05 pm · 117 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday in the noon hour.

Watch the video above (the entire video, it’s worth it).

Do you wish judges were always tough on criminals like this, or do you think this judge reacted and went overboard after the criminal disrespected him?

Talk about it….

101 Elwood February 5, 2013 at 10:48 PM

@ The Real McCoy #89

She was high, loaded, stoned, whatever you want to call it. It was obvious. That’s why the judge asked her if she had ingested any drugs recently.

102 mtzman February 5, 2013 at 10:51 PM

@Em Dubya #99, I missed the part where she said that, and you may very well be right that the judge would prevail on that issue (although there were other grounds for challenging the order, as I stated). My point, however, has always been that it was a waste of the court’s and the taxpayers resources. Just because you can do something doesn’t always mean you should.

103 Shenanigans February 6, 2013 at 1:35 AM

What a disrespectful little wanna be gangster brat. She deserves every bit of that sentence. And if she was my daughter I would be hanging my head in shame. She is a prime example of how these youngsters behave these days. She would not be allowed back in my house until a long well thought out apology letter was written to the judge and the public defender representing her. Then she and her “jewelry” would get a little punishment from the HOUSE!!

104 anon February 6, 2013 at 5:13 AM

ok usually i would side w/ the judge but here the judge set the tone in his court by smiling/chuckling. it didnt appear that she meant disrespect by saying ‘adios’. it was obvious when her personality changed after he raised her fine that she was showing disrespect. many girls this age have no idea how to behave in front of a judge/in court.
what is the likely hood that she had taken any drugs, being that she had been in custody for sometime telling from her clothing.
the judge has a german background, being raised by a german let me tell you along w/ being hard workers they are short fused and hot blooded. quite the opposite of Ca. attitude

105 Anonymous February 6, 2013 at 8:25 AM

He should maintain professionalism. We all deal with jerks and smart mouth/difficult/undesirable individuals in our various professions, and we are all required to treat them with respect and professionalism. He should determine the punishment, but the attitude and his demeanor are unneccesary. We pay you to do a job, do it and keep your personal feelings out of it.

106 Anonymous February 6, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Thank you #10!! My sentiments exactly!!

“The position of judge is not to take things personally and judge emotionally. This girl is not going to learn anything sitting in jail with a bunch of other girls with the same attitude or worse.
Put capable criminals to work. No, not hard labor. But useful and meaningful work. How about 30 days cleaning up graffiti, helping homeless, caring for needy, (all supervised very very closely).
This judge wanted to get even. He used his power to do so. He did not think in the best interest of this girl.”

107 Parsnip February 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM

@Anonymous #106 — At minimum, she’ll learn that a “lot of jewelry alright” doesn’t mean squat in a courtroom. (I had to research what the heck a Rick Ross was — I see a fat guy with boobs. Markey value of her “lot of jewelry alright” is probably petty cash.).

And as the judge indicated, her “lot of jewelry alright” means she could have afforded an attorney and didn’t qualify for a PD.

She’ll be put to work and won’t be sitting around running her fingers through her hair.

108 Mr. John February 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Judges are authorities, folks. If authorities can’t command respect, they lose their effectiveness. That is one of the reasons why the judge has a fairly subjective power to find someone “In Contempt of Court” and throw them in jail. It is necessary to defend the bench.

Regardless: If a judge is involved, you’re already miles off the right path – and there are no truly right answers in the wild. There is generally nothing a judge can do to make a defendant appearing before him become a better person. The egg was dropped long ago – this is just a bit of egg spatter.

109 Anonymous February 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM

im betting mamacita is reffering to Judge Colon. hes tough, but he’s a pretty good guy outside of the court house

110 anonymous February 6, 2013 at 1:29 PM

mtzm, you are an idiot with too much time on your hands. First of all, you do not know that she was even immediately detained, so you don’t know if what the judge did was within the intent of the procedure or not.

Why are people always taking the sides of those on the wrong side of the law? It’s like the whiners who complain about food in prison – don’t like the food? Stay out of trouble.

Kids these days are not taught to respect their elders, or those in authority. If we don’t start working on them 1 at a time, they will never learn to be able to handle themselves in adult situations, thus not be able to keep gainful employment, and their attitudes will be propagated to any children they may have.

I wish I had been in that courtroom – I would have stood and applauded.

111 Antler February 6, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Yes, I wish judges always would punish disrespectful defendants like this. In fact, he was more lenient than I would have been!

Elwood, I agree with you that the young woman was “using” and “under the influence”. We’re talking Miami here, folks! There are illegal drugs in jails everywhere, especially in cities like Miami. Assuming that anything might remotely have changed her behavior, her attorney should have cautioned her about appropriate decorum, though perhaps he had done so and she is already too hardened/stoned/whatever to care.

112 Elwood February 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM

MIAMI, Florida (AP) – A young Miami woman apologized for flipping off a judge, who then dropped contempt charges and vacated her 30-day jail term.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/watercooler/article/297006/58/Woman-apologizes-flipping-off-judge

113 Cowellian February 8, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Elwood,
I guess no one can accuse her of being a slow-learner.

heh, heh, heh

114 mtzman February 8, 2013 at 4:17 PM

A wise decision by the judge to back down. Now that everyone was appropriately embarrassed, justice is served.

115 Tree Farm February 9, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Judge wasn’t embarrassed mtzman. You however, were. Missed the whole admission of guilt and pretending to know how court works. We all got a good chuckle at your expense though!

116 mtzman February 9, 2013 at 10:41 PM

@Tree Farm #115, glad you were entertained. Now I’m the one laughing …

117 Jeff February 10, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Pay no attention to Mtzman – he who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else. He’s just another Obama voter inflating his own credentials.

MtzMan – for it to have been “excessive” fine that were challengeable, there would have had to be a contempt proceeding, would there not? Since the judge never rendered that decision, instead changing his mind after the apology, your argument really had no validity, because you jumped from step 1 to step 5. Just like most progressives, you skip over the “important” part of the judicial process. Who’d you learn that from, Obama?

Idiot.

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