The Water Cooler – Criminals & Judges

February 5, 2013 12:05 pm · 116 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday in the noon hour.

Watch the video above (the entire video, it’s worth it).

Do you wish judges were always tough on criminals like this, or do you think this judge reacted and went overboard after the criminal disrespected him?

Talk about it….

Dee February 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Yes more judges should be like this one, in fact she is such a smart ass he should of given her more! She has the attitude of a lot in that age bracket and that is one of defiance and “I dare you to do anything about it”

bumper February 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM

She deserves every day served.

Cowellian February 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM


mamacita February 5, 2013 at 12:16 PM

He should have had her tested for drugs on the spot.
Cut her hair off so she’d stop twirling it and then thrown her in the slammer.
He was being too kind.
However some judges are just plain mean, but the one in Walnut Creek Superior Court (who shall remain nameless) was finally ousted, he was atrocious and even rude and mean to jurors.

B February 5, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Little girl was asking for it! Play with fire, you get burned…

Steve February 5, 2013 at 12:18 PM

We need more judges like that!

Anonymrs. February 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM

That defendant was completely obnoxious. She was like “ooh look at me I’m so cute in my orange jumpsuit playing with my long pretty hair, ooh.” Give me a break! You don’t want to face a judge and be respectful, don’t be a dumb ass and get yourself arrested!!

just askin February 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Oh hell yes I agree with the judge! You better believe it. Maybe it will teach this smartass a lesson! Good for him!!! More judges should be like him. Quit letting these kids getaway with crap!!! My hat is off to him! Hope she realizes that everyone on Claycord now knows what a joke she is! Her parents must be very proud! NOT!

You Get What You Vote For February 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM

But, But, But she’s special, ask she’ll tell you. Youth of today are entitled they get awards for not winning. What ever happened to being poor, tired and hungry then deciding you never want to be that way again an going out and becoming a productive member of society.
What is even more diss-respectful is what your state legislature did to every Law abiding citizen of OUR state back in 2011 when they passed Criminal justice re-alignment. Which is emptying our prisons and causing county jail overcrowding all over the state. Misdemeanor criminals are serving little or no time in jail and felony convictions under this law are automatically cut in half.

David February 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM

The position of judge is not to take things personally and judge emotionally. This girl is not going to learn anything sitting in jail with a bunch of other girls with the same attitude or worse.
Put capable criminals to work. No, not hard labor. But useful and meaningful work. How about 30 days cleaning up graffiti, helping homeless, caring for needy, (all supervised very very closely).
This judge wanted to get even. He used his power to do so. He did not think in the best interest of this girl.

Idiot Judge February 5, 2013 at 12:27 PM

This girl is just misguided. instead of prison why not give her counceling or some type of home detanment? She needs counceling more than she needs to be behind bars. The judge was on a power trip.

Howard K. Mullins III February 5, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Should have gotten 60 or 90 days and $100K bail. I don’t think the law allows for such extreme punishment, but in the case, sure would have been nice to see.

The child’s behavior is indicative of many people in society today, a complete disregard for laws. For many, “what does it matter” is their definition of life.

Accountability and responsibility are character traits that are scorned by many. Integrity and morals have been abandoned by others.

When the rule of law is abandoned, then society fails. We are watching this failure right in front of us, how many will stand up and proclaim allegiance to the laws of the land?

I will…even though I disagree with many, I will.

mamatosix85 February 5, 2013 at 12:30 PM

That has been going on for years. There needs to be a level of respect for the court/judge. She had her chance to shut up and chose not to. If we had more of this people might think twice about their behavior.
Counseling will not teach her or anyone else disrespect.

Triple Canopy February 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Show no mercy.

Anonokat February 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM

She was disrespectful and her conduct was completely out of line. She deserves every bit of what she received and then some. I commend this judge. This is our tax money being used to prosecute criminals and the penalties need to be more harsh. Litlle girl, ADIOS!

Incognito February 5, 2013 at 12:32 PM

She was very disrespectful.
She obviously thought the entire ordeal was a laughing matter.
She wasn’t laughing at the end, was she?
Kudos to the judge

Beaver February 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Good! This judge is 100% correct. NOBODY wants to take accountability for their actions anymore. NOBODY. Who smarts off to a judge. She thought she was being pretty cute and funny. Guess what, the joke is on her. Bye the judge a drink for his sentence of her. Perhaps she will learn her lesson. Adios!

Parsnip February 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Awww….Life sucks when the Smiley Face disappears, the finger “hair twirling” stops, and arms are folded against the chest like a spoiled, rotten brat.

Now we have a Poster Child on video.

Great job, Judge!

(Adiós, little señorita.)

Howard K. Mullins III February 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Damn I hate the bleeding hearts.

She was charged with consuming xanax bars and apparently had a bunch of them with her.

Counseling? A trip to the wood shed is way over do. Jail and VERY HARD LABOR, like making big rocks very small rocks every day is what is in order.

People don’t respect the law, specially the damn bleeding hearts.

Mutts February 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM

This judge was lenient with her til she swore at him so he gave her what she deserved. She acted like it was a joke. Alot of tough love and counceling to boot may help. I can’t believe what an idiot she is and yes, she should’ve been tested on the spot.

Mr Pink February 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM

I frickin’ LOVE it. I’m so sick of the smart ass, arrogant punk kids that have no respect for anything or anyone. Good for him and hopefully she’ll learn a lesson while cooling off in jail.

Joe Bean February 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

#10 & 11 have it right.

The girl is immature. That’s nothing compared to the real crime of the judge playing casual tyrant, jovially exercising his punitive powers AFTER he escalated the matter and provoked her.

Perhaps his (age-weighted proportion of) maturity should be called into question.

I can’t believe the other posters’ messages… You lot sure seem to be knee-jerk hating. Am I wrong? Would your tune would change if you stood before a tyrannical judge?

bduns February 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

I REALLY wanted to see another 5 minutes of that…hilarious and well-deserved.

Reality says... February 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM

ehh…I’m not exactly sure what she did. If she’s getting ROR on some charges it must not be that bad. He attitude sucks, and the 5k to 10k jump was nice, but I’d rather see them get tough on criminals that steal copper from kids camps.

Shuley February 5, 2013 at 12:56 PM

I’m on the fence. He certainly reacted to her insult towards him. She is a smart ass punk and did deserve what she got. On the other hand, the taxpayers get to foot the bill for her 30 days in jail, not the judge.

anonanonagain February 5, 2013 at 1:06 PM

I wish more judges were harder on young offenders.
This girl is a dingbat. She thinks that being in court and in front of a judge is a joke. She has no respect for authority whatsoever. The sheer fact that she flipped the judge off and swore at him as she pathetically and arrogantly walked away shows that she has little comprehension of the life she is creating ahead of her. Notice that her giggling and her hair twirling stops when he chides her. Her voice changes from that obviously contrived childish demeanor and she puts her hands on her hips with attitude. She needs a wake up call!!!

Howard K. Mullins III February 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

@Joe Bean

“Would your tune would change if you stood before a tyrannical judge?”

Most people who respect the law of the land are not stupid enough to do something/anything illegal and therefore would never be in front on a judge.

When addressing the court, people who are accountable for their own actions always show respect.

People who have no good character, no accountability, show no responsibility for their own actions, mouth off to Judges.

Anyone who condones such actions should take a good look at their own level of good character. Might be prudent to get a good definition of character first, try a dictionary.

Jorge February 5, 2013 at 1:17 PM

The judge was completely out of line.

Mr. John February 5, 2013 at 1:19 PM

War Games: “The only winning move is not to play.”

There is no good response here. The judge can’t allow disrespect for the court. Punishing her like this isn’t going to make her a better person or make the world a better place.

The only winning move was keeping her out of court in the first place through proper parenting, education and community support. Once kids slip through the cracks and turn into thugs and losers, returning to them to a good path takes a lot of work – and involves a lot of situations in which everyone loses along the way.

AnotherAnon February 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Did no one notice that she flipped off the judge as she was leaving?

Anon-realanon February 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM

I agree with Shuley-#26

I also think that the judge was also guilty of misconduct, just as much as the girl. He treated her like crap from the start. She was obviously nervous, probably didn’t get any sleep and she is not even aware of why they are assessing her financials. It should have been made clear to her why they were, otherwise it’s like the court is asking her advice on fashion.

Rob February 5, 2013 at 1:30 PM

That type of person will wear their 30 days in jail for flipping off and swearing at a judge as a badge of honor when she gets out – that type of person who has friends will think she is all that and a bag of chips…

Sure – the judge had to to it and I applaud him – but in reality it won’t affect her at all.

Heather February 5, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Any teenager locked up like this would behave lke this. What we need is more parents like this not judges.

Tree Farm February 5, 2013 at 1:31 PM

And #23 Joe Bean is exactly what is wrong with America today.

Joe Bean, do you know what ROR means? Released on own recognizance. The judge was letting her go on many of the charges. Who escalated the matter and provoked whom? The silly girl was getting away with less than a slap on the wrist. SHE escalated and SHE provoked the judge.

Yes, you are wrong. This is the reactions are of a citizenry that is tired of BS like this. She had won. All she had to do was show a micron of respect and walk away. Instead, she chose to throw an adult version of a temper tantrum. Lesson learned.

Anonymous February 5, 2013 at 1:32 PM

It sounds like she had an attorney representing her. I wonder if it was a public defender. If so, the girl should have to pay the cost of the public defender with all the valuable jewelry she claims to own. Either way, it seems the attorney didn’t do a good job of prepping his or her client for court and intervening when he or she saw his client losing it.

Tree Farm February 5, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Shocking, #29 Jorge the cop hater, thinks the judge was out of line.

Anon February 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Excellent!! Good for him.

Judge-o-rama February 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM

I think that judges should be strict with how people act in their courtrooms. They need to be professional–not scream at jurors, etc.

I agree with how this judge reacted to this ninwit in his courtroom. Hopefully, they have counsellors, therapists, etc. in the slammer so that people like this person can get help.

Original G February 5, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Judges re-election, NOT a problem.

Parsnip February 5, 2013 at 1:52 PM

@#23 — This “tyrant” fined her $5000. Her response, “Adios.” Her fine was upped to $10000. She flipped him off.

I think 20 days in addition is apropos.

“Would your tune would change if you stood before a tyrannical judge?” There was nothing tyrannical about the judge. There was a sarcastic little bimbo egging him on.

Wisecracker February 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM

For those of you who think the judge was completely out of line…
The girl was even more out of line to begin with.
There you have it in a nutshell.

No more excuses February 5, 2013 at 1:57 PM

It doesn’t matter how the judge acted. The girl was out of line. Parents making excuses for their children’s behavior is the norm now. The judge is the authority and the girl should have shown respect no matter what. Some of you obviously haven’t been in a court room. There is a standard in court proceedings and you better abide by them. These judges deal with thugs and idiots all day long. If she wants to act like a thug, then let her go live with the thugs, in jail. She won’t listen to a counselor or any other authority, so remove her from society for a while and see if that changes her mind about respecting authority.

Miss Ranchogirl February 5, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I dislike people that don’t respect the law.
The clean-up has to start somewhere, great job Judge! Let them follow your example

love :-) February 5, 2013 at 2:02 PM

parents educating their kids. sounds better than judges like this.
adios.. is a simple word to say bye and is not bad.

Larrabee February 5, 2013 at 2:05 PM

She had one foot out the door to freedom; now she has some time to reflect. I hope she learns something. She can think whatever she wants about that judge, or ANY judge, but there’s no excuse for a show of blatant disrespect.

sillyfilly454 February 5, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Yes, she was being disrespectful & like alot of females think- their good looks will get them a break. Not! What pisses me off is that just about everytime I’ve had to appear in court, someone like her is right before me and manages to get the judge agitated & in a foul mood- which I feel had a direct effect on the outcome of my sentencing. She’s young, immature and has not yet learned that standing in front of a judge is one of the places you do NOT want to act like an idiot…!

anon February 5, 2013 at 2:23 PM

This is what teens learn from the parents and at school.

iamerica February 5, 2013 at 2:24 PM

LMAO she totally deserved it. “How much is your jewelry worth?”, “A lot, like Rick Ross.” WHO SAYS CRAP LIKE THAT?! Really though, where was she raised, I’d bet Oakland. A post before mine said it first but sadly its true, she will wear this experience like a badge of honor. All her scummy friends will think she’s so hard and tough because she mouthed off to a judge and spent 30 days in the slammer. Hope your Rick Ross jewelry pays 10k little brat!

iamerica February 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I just noticed this is from Miami, so bets off about Oakland. Its safe to say though that people like this are infesting the society we live in today.

The Closer February 5, 2013 at 2:42 PM

I’d give her a good spanking.

Jeff February 5, 2013 at 2:43 PM

GREAT job, judge. I love it. Someone needs to teach kids a lesson – if the parents don’t do it, perhaps 30 days and 10k will.

Adios, pendeja!

Bob February 5, 2013 at 2:43 PM

30 days in jail and extra 5k. If u walk up to someone on the street and punch them in the face u get less of a fine and time. This is guy is on an absolute power trip. How can you throw someone in jail for 30 days for talking back to you when you have never spent a day in jail yourself. This is sickening, this girl clearly needs help and is poorly raised and educated. And this poor excuse for a judge deemed it nessasry to throw this sad young woman In jail for an extra 30 days. I don’t know very many uneducated drug addicted Kmart Employees that can come up with $10,000 so he’s basicly putting her in the system for life.

Is claycord run by law enforcement and are a bunch of bots responding ? Either that or this world seriously lacks compation. It’s funny how most of the people who support the judge would also be apposed to paying for her food stamps,her unemployment, and her housing. Jesus died for our sins lol grow a heart people. Not only does this woman have to suffer 30 days in jail but we the tax payers are gonna have to flip the bill for the extra time inside. According to 2009 data the average cost for a person in jail is $60 a day. So the judge because of back talk just cost the state 1800 at the least.

Bob February 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM


Bob the Repairman February 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM

GOOD FOR THE JUDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wisecracker February 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Hey Bob…
Get off the soap box.
Stop making excuses for her poor behavior in court.
You can be raised poor and uneducated, but you can still be raised with manners and to be respectful. And, this has nothing to do with Jesus.

Elwood February 5, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Silly little beyotch got what she deserved.

“most of the people who support the judge would also be apposed to paying for her food stamps,her unemployment, and her housing”

Yep. Sure would!

Way to go, judge!

Peanuts Mommy February 5, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Yes! That girl needs the smack down!

Cowellian February 5, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Bob said:

How can you throw someone in jail for 30 days for talking back to you when you have never spent a day in jail yourself.

What a silly question. Most of us have managed to not spend a day in jail. And most of us would still know how to behave if we found ourselves in front of a judge.

Who is Rick Ross? February 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Who is Rick Ross? I didnt get that part.

dilligafman February 5, 2013 at 3:16 PM

spoiled little B%$@H ! the judge should have given her 6 months. maybe her spoiled little ass would learn a little respect then. kids are not taught enough respect by their parents any more.

kiyyap February 5, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Best thing for her and for her community.

Do not be in contempt of court unless you need to be.

mtzman February 5, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Anybody ever hear of the First Amendment? It’s not a crime to flip off a judge, nor is it a crime to be immature, disrespectful or even a total ass. At best it is contempt of court and the judge violated Florida law by imposing an immediate sentence, denying her constitutional due process or by not disqualifying himself from hearing the case, not to mention the fact that it is the taxpayers who will end up footing the bill. Yeah, great job, judge …

ptpauly February 5, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Disrespectful little cutie playing on her looks. Didn’t go her way and copped an attitude and someone “smacked her down” Probably the first time in her life that someone has told her no and had the power to back it up. Probably didn’t understand how that was happening to her. How could you do this to me attitude. I am a spiled cutie and don’t deserve to be responsible for my actions. how dare you. I’ll show you and she got shown who really had the power in the courtroom. Poor parenting is obvious. Poor manners also. She probably has always mouthed off under her breath as she walked away and gotten away with it, but not this time. The judge was right and if we had more judges like that and less liberals who give prisoners more rights than victims you would see less people like her in court and more respect for the law.

inmotion February 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Jesus can turn the other cheek, our court system cannot. Bleeding hearts that give participation trophies to everyone so feelings don’t get hurt is the reason why some young people these days have a sense of entitlement, lack apathy and shun all responsibility. The judge was showing compassion Bob, all the girl had to do was keep her mouth shut.

DoReMi February 5, 2013 at 3:35 PM

I didn’t think there could be some one stupider than Linsey Lohan.

Bob February 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM

63 nailed it

Kirk February 5, 2013 at 4:02 PM

#63 will find out how wrong he is if he is ever in front of a judge. It’s amazing what people don’t teach their children.

Disrespecting a judge is right up there with reaching into your pocket when a cop says “don’t move.”

Thank goodness for natural selection.

Cowellian February 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM

The next time you’re in court, try flipping off the judge, and let us know how that works out for you.

Anon February 5, 2013 at 4:31 PM

I feel bad for the judge, I bet the line of these dummies was thirty deep. Day in day out people pushing and testing like they have done their whole life. I’d be kind of cranky too.

When I was in high school we went to court to see the law in action. One of our classes drop outs was in front of the judge for drunk driving and reckless driving. It went about as bad for him. I Learned a lot.

If anything her counsel should be slapped down for not telling her what would make things worse. A simple smile and a “thank you” and she would have been back home in a couple hours. Now she gets to shower in groups and deal with people who will make the judge look like Willy Wonka.

The Dude February 5, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Nice! I don’t think the judge was doing this as much because he was personally offended, but that this girl had absolutely no respect for the law or society in general. Excellent work!!!

Safety Second February 5, 2013 at 4:43 PM

The lil brat disrespected our system of law and order. The judge is our representative and responded accordingly. We need more judges just like him!

Starfish February 5, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Excellent judge! He should have given her more time. 30 days? No way!

@ mtzman@63 February 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Where exactly did you say you earned your law degree from again?

The Judge didn’t sentence her on her original case. He simply upped her bail amount. He sentenced her to 30 day county jail for contempt of court which is well within the power of the Court to do.

FYI- your Constitution rights are not absolute.

TinFoiler February 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Wow! 74 comments and Not One regarding the Judge Doesn’t even Respect the Court! How about SPEAK ENGLISH where people can understand WTF you’re saying, Judge.
STOP Worshiping a judge – They are NOT the Christ.
And yes, the girl is an a$$hole, but that’s not saying much – Majority of the youth walking around with their pacifiers (cell phones) are ALL on a Path that is NOT going to end well.

Anon February 5, 2013 at 5:10 PM

I am thinking chain gang picking up trash with stripes.

dk February 5, 2013 at 5:15 PM

@mtzman #63

The 30 days sentence WAS for contempt of court. LISTEN to it again. Good job Judge !!! He should also have gotten up and slapped her across the face.

Joe Bean February 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM

I think the polarizing/divisive moment is #4 below.
If you don’t agree it was a friendly adios, it basically changes everything else. Maybe we can all agree on that?

1) Judge was playing nice.
2) She took the bait.
3) He waved bye. So did she.
4) She said adios in a friendly way.
5) He calls her back up and doubles the punishment.
6) She is mortified because she (as did I) thought the judge was being lenient.

If you don’t see that between 4 & 5 the judge was out of line on a power trip, then you surely don’t see what I am seeing. At best he misunderstood her intent and should have asked if she meant to be a smartazz. It’s well beyond plausible that she meant zero ill, up to that point, by what she demonstrated. He chose unilaterally and without one question, to believe that he was right about her intent. Seems most of you here agree. I think a prudent mind would at least ask, especially if weighing punitive measures. I think we’d all want that chance to explain, were our adios a friendly one mistaken to be something else.

Her choice to flip off the judge was indefensibly stupid. But understandable. Forgivable, even without provocation. Except that she WAS provoked, and by an authority (This point alone is huge! – US judiciary is supposed to be ((and is, on the whole)) the exceptional gold standard on the planet) she thought was approving of her demeanor until, unbelievably to her (and myself), he goes and doubles the pain.

It was probably an honest mistake on his part and she had a massive reaction as a result then flipped him off and so he probably took this as confirmation of an attitude she didn’t have until he goofed… then slammed her for 30 days. To applause though??? She is paying for the total sum of both their mistakes. Judges should do better than he did that day. This 30-day thing should at least be reviewed and replaced with counseling or other corrective measures immediately.

Seems like most of you here think the girl ought to be stoned to death for being young and dumb. Cringe indeed…

Em Dubya February 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM

No judicial abuse of discretion here. Upped bail because defendant admitted in open court to having a substantial value in jewelry and showed an open disrespect for legal process, these are a legitimate basis for being a flight risk.

Contempt of court. Good grief. That’s as clear as it gets. The judge was pretty tolerant until the defendant started showing a clear lack of regard for the legal process and for the decorum of the proceeding.

@ TinFoiler February 5, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Exactly what language do you think he was speaking?

By the way, are you sure your hat is really made of tin? I’m guessing its a white pointy hat with eye holes that is covering your little pointed head.

Bob February 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM

This woman has a “Rick Ross” amount of jewelry. She needs help, not time. I’m not saying she was right but come on 5k for ‘adios’. He should have laughed it off she was clearly lacking common sense. This is a classic case of a dude on a power trip that or he gets paid from one of the privately owned prisons.

mtzman February 5, 2013 at 6:07 PM

As a matter of fact, I have seen someone in court flip off a judge and I have seen several people act inappropriately. In each case, the judge gave the offending party a stern lecture, demanded an apology, and got the apology.

Believe me, I am not defending the little twerp who flipped off the judge. But the judge should have had a cooler head. That’s what we expect from judges. As stated in the California judges benchguide on Courtroom Control: Contempt and Sanctions, “Experienced judges rarely, if ever, use contempt to control their courtrooms.”

And the judge in any event should have followed the law. At the law school I attended, we learned that the Eighth Amendment prohibited the imposition of excessive bail. If $5,000 bail was sufficient before her outburst, an argument could be made that doubling it after the outburst was excessive. It could also be argued that the increased fee for posting bail was a form of fine that exceeded Florida law.

Moreover, Florida Rule of Criminal Procedure 3.830 – DIRECT CRIMINAL CONTEMPT – provides: “A criminal contempt may be punished summarily if the court saw or heard the conduct constituting the contempt committed in the actual presence of the court. The judgment of guilt of contempt shall include a recital of those facts on which the adjudication of guilt is based. Prior to the adjudication of guilt the judge shall inform the defendant of the accusation against the defendant and inquire as to whether the defendant has any cause to show why he or she should not be adjudged guilty of contempt by the court and sentenced therefor. The defendant shall be given the opportunity to present evidence of excusing or mitigating circumstances. The judgment shall be signed by the judge and entered of record. Sentence shall be pronounced in open court.”

The judge didn’t do that from what I saw. So what we have here is a judge who lost his cool and what purpose did it serve? It gave her public defender (paid for by the taxpayers) grounds for an appeal or other court proceedings that will have to be defended by the state (also paid for by the taxpayers) that may or may not succeed but will cost the taxpayers a lot of money win or lose. It resulted in jail time that the taxpayers will also have to bear the cost in an era of overcrowding that may result in some other criminal being released early. Vengeance is cheap when it is paid for with other people’s money, and even if the judge had the legal right to do what he did, it just wasn’t very smart.

Parsnip February 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM

This has been out for years. It’s simple advice from a public defender to his/her client:

Darwin February 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM

He should have lectured her first on proper court room behavior prior to her flipping him off. If she continued to be a brat after the lecture then give her the 30 days. Was this in California? If it was I would be surprised.

TinFoiler February 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM

@80 NO NAME,
Nice try to inject a little racism, I’m sure that will derail what I ORIGINALLY MENTIONED.
Now I’m Yelling in case you didn’t get it:
I make no mention of anyone’s race, creed or background.
If you are going to be in a position where you SPEAK, Learn how to speak or find another profession.

JW February 5, 2013 at 6:31 PM

My guess is that this was probably the best thing that anyone has ever done for this person. I won’t go into what she knows, how she acts, or how she was raised. We don’t know. What is obvious is that she tried to mock the court and now she will have to pay for it. Hopefully she will learn from it and realize that jail and court are places that a normal person does not want to be. If she doesn’t, then she will face increasingly stiff penalties for each infraction that she racks up. The court system can ruin your life if you don’t play nice.

concord February 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM

why did they end the video just after the judge said 30 days in county jail. I wanted to see what her response to the 30-days. Boy, she sure got serious what he increased her bond from $5,000 to $10,000 or whatever it was.

Iggey February 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Bet the next person waiting to see the Judge took a VERY different approach when addressing the bench.

The Real McCoy February 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM

The girl was obviously nervous as hell. Some people’s reaction to extreme stress is to smile way too much and act like it’s a joke. That said, you do NOT flip off a judge, and I think 20 days for contempt will drive that home, especially considering she wouldn’t have had ANY jail time for a first drug offense and her fellow inmates will let her know it.

concord February 5, 2013 at 6:36 PM

yes, the girl definitely needed a wake-up call; you don’t appear in a court of law behaving like a gangster girl, $200 bucks a week; sound rather whorish.

lkgjkdn February 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM

I wish he could be the judge for the next Lindsey Lohan trial.

TinFoiler February 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM

‘Nuff Said, Judge CHRIST you say? Not Quite, this judge has been Exposed:,8019304

HoodRat February 5, 2013 at 7:01 PM

The judge taking things personally? Maybe just setting a precedent that no one should be spoken to in that manner and conveying a certain level of respect and dignity that is required not only when in court, but in everyday life.

Anon February 5, 2013 at 7:01 PM


Like the next guy in line for the “Soup Nazi.”

Diablo February 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM

I hope her sorry ass gets 60 days! That Judge is my new Hero.

@ White Pointy Head February 5, 2013 at 7:48 PM

No you just mention his thick Cuban accent and how you couldn’t understand it. If only he spoke like me, and had a pointy head like me, he would be a real American like me. You are a racist.

MissK February 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM

She was nervous? She has a funny way of showing it. She appeared to be nothing but a brat and I found her behavior annoying. However, it doesn’t look too good as a judge to take things personal and lose their cool. But it’s okay, I’m sure her Rick Ross jewelry will help with bail.

Dennis February 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Judge Roy Bean woulda done better 😉
I bet Bob and Joe think a cop pulling a gun on a felon is ‘provocation’ and felons have the right to ‘defend themselves’ against the police, too.
I once saw a guy pulled over for a rolling stop, then failed the sobriety test, and then threw a punch at the cop. When he went before a judge, I bet he learned the hard way that if you disagree with a cop about a ticket, the proper place to dispute it is in court. The rolling stop and DUI probably didn’t cost as much time as assaulting an officer 🙂
Joe, Bob, etc do us all a favor and throw a punch, or mouth off in court, and spend the extra time locked up writing ‘I will respect the law’ 50,000 times or so. Maybe it will sink in.
Or maybe flip off St. Peter when you meet him.

Em Dubya February 5, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Regarding the process under the Florida Criminal Procedure, it would seem in the last 15 seconds of the clip that the defendant stated before even reaching the podium “I did it, I’m not going to deny it” and then reiterates the same after the judge asks her if she had done so.

Again, an admission by defendant in open court. I’d say that the judge probably wins this if appealed even if the process was a bit loose. Defense counsel didn’t even make any objections that I could hear either. Not a helpful fact when appealing.

Vindex February 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Love it

Elwood February 5, 2013 at 10:48 PM

@ The Real McCoy #89

She was high, loaded, stoned, whatever you want to call it. It was obvious. That’s why the judge asked her if she had ingested any drugs recently.

mtzman February 5, 2013 at 10:51 PM

@Em Dubya #99, I missed the part where she said that, and you may very well be right that the judge would prevail on that issue (although there were other grounds for challenging the order, as I stated). My point, however, has always been that it was a waste of the court’s and the taxpayers resources. Just because you can do something doesn’t always mean you should.

Shenanigans February 6, 2013 at 1:35 AM

What a disrespectful little wanna be gangster brat. She deserves every bit of that sentence. And if she was my daughter I would be hanging my head in shame. She is a prime example of how these youngsters behave these days. She would not be allowed back in my house until a long well thought out apology letter was written to the judge and the public defender representing her. Then she and her “jewelry” would get a little punishment from the HOUSE!!

anon February 6, 2013 at 5:13 AM

ok usually i would side w/ the judge but here the judge set the tone in his court by smiling/chuckling. it didnt appear that she meant disrespect by saying ‘adios’. it was obvious when her personality changed after he raised her fine that she was showing disrespect. many girls this age have no idea how to behave in front of a judge/in court.
what is the likely hood that she had taken any drugs, being that she had been in custody for sometime telling from her clothing.
the judge has a german background, being raised by a german let me tell you along w/ being hard workers they are short fused and hot blooded. quite the opposite of Ca. attitude

Anonymous February 6, 2013 at 8:25 AM

He should maintain professionalism. We all deal with jerks and smart mouth/difficult/undesirable individuals in our various professions, and we are all required to treat them with respect and professionalism. He should determine the punishment, but the attitude and his demeanor are unneccesary. We pay you to do a job, do it and keep your personal feelings out of it.

Anonymous February 6, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Thank you #10!! My sentiments exactly!!

“The position of judge is not to take things personally and judge emotionally. This girl is not going to learn anything sitting in jail with a bunch of other girls with the same attitude or worse.
Put capable criminals to work. No, not hard labor. But useful and meaningful work. How about 30 days cleaning up graffiti, helping homeless, caring for needy, (all supervised very very closely).
This judge wanted to get even. He used his power to do so. He did not think in the best interest of this girl.”

Parsnip February 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM

@Anonymous #106 — At minimum, she’ll learn that a “lot of jewelry alright” doesn’t mean squat in a courtroom. (I had to research what the heck a Rick Ross was — I see a fat guy with boobs. Markey value of her “lot of jewelry alright” is probably petty cash.).

And as the judge indicated, her “lot of jewelry alright” means she could have afforded an attorney and didn’t qualify for a PD.

She’ll be put to work and won’t be sitting around running her fingers through her hair.

Mr. John February 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Judges are authorities, folks. If authorities can’t command respect, they lose their effectiveness. That is one of the reasons why the judge has a fairly subjective power to find someone “In Contempt of Court” and throw them in jail. It is necessary to defend the bench.

Regardless: If a judge is involved, you’re already miles off the right path – and there are no truly right answers in the wild. There is generally nothing a judge can do to make a defendant appearing before him become a better person. The egg was dropped long ago – this is just a bit of egg spatter.

Anonymous February 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM

im betting mamacita is reffering to Judge Colon. hes tough, but he’s a pretty good guy outside of the court house

anonymous February 6, 2013 at 1:29 PM

mtzm, you are an idiot with too much time on your hands. First of all, you do not know that she was even immediately detained, so you don’t know if what the judge did was within the intent of the procedure or not.

Why are people always taking the sides of those on the wrong side of the law? It’s like the whiners who complain about food in prison – don’t like the food? Stay out of trouble.

Kids these days are not taught to respect their elders, or those in authority. If we don’t start working on them 1 at a time, they will never learn to be able to handle themselves in adult situations, thus not be able to keep gainful employment, and their attitudes will be propagated to any children they may have.

I wish I had been in that courtroom – I would have stood and applauded.

Antler February 6, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Yes, I wish judges always would punish disrespectful defendants like this. In fact, he was more lenient than I would have been!

Elwood, I agree with you that the young woman was “using” and “under the influence”. We’re talking Miami here, folks! There are illegal drugs in jails everywhere, especially in cities like Miami. Assuming that anything might remotely have changed her behavior, her attorney should have cautioned her about appropriate decorum, though perhaps he had done so and she is already too hardened/stoned/whatever to care.

Elwood February 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM

MIAMI, Florida (AP) – A young Miami woman apologized for flipping off a judge, who then dropped contempt charges and vacated her 30-day jail term.

Cowellian February 8, 2013 at 3:04 PM

I guess no one can accuse her of being a slow-learner.

heh, heh, heh

mtzman February 8, 2013 at 4:17 PM

A wise decision by the judge to back down. Now that everyone was appropriately embarrassed, justice is served.

Tree Farm February 9, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Judge wasn’t embarrassed mtzman. You however, were. Missed the whole admission of guilt and pretending to know how court works. We all got a good chuckle at your expense though!

mtzman February 9, 2013 at 10:41 PM

@Tree Farm #115, glad you were entertained. Now I’m the one laughing …

Jeff February 10, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Pay no attention to Mtzman – he who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else. He’s just another Obama voter inflating his own credentials.

MtzMan – for it to have been “excessive” fine that were challengeable, there would have had to be a contempt proceeding, would there not? Since the judge never rendered that decision, instead changing his mind after the apology, your argument really had no validity, because you jumped from step 1 to step 5. Just like most progressives, you skip over the “important” part of the judicial process. Who’d you learn that from, Obama?


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