Congressman Miller Comments on Obama’s Plan to Reduce Gun Violence

January 17, 2013 19:42 pm · 139 comments

Congressman George Miller sent out a letter to his supporters and the media today regarding President Obama’s plan to reduce gun violence.

The letter is shown below:

Dear Friend,

Every day, 50 children and teens are shot. Eight of those children die, five from murder. Since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary last month, more than 900 Americans have been killed by guns.

Yesterday, President Obama put forward a comprehensive plan to reduce gun violence in the United States, including a mandate for universal background checks for every gun purchase, restrictions on high capacity ammunition magazines, a ban on dangerous, military-style assault weapons, stronger federal gun trafficking laws, and a stronger approach to mental health and education issues.

I support his proposal and took part in a hearing House Democrats held yesterday to discuss ways to strengthen sensible gun safety laws, fix glaring loopholes, and keep dangerous people away from powerful weapons.

As Congress now grapples with this important issue, I want to hear from you. What do you think will help prevent gun violence in America? Let me know by taking part in my gun violence prevention survey here .

The death, injury and heartache caused by gun violence are devastating. We need to act now. Unless we do, more than 120,000 people will be killed by guns over the next four years. Instead, I’d like to be able to say that together, we did something to save lives.

Sincerely,

GEORGE MILLER
Member of Congress

101 Captain Bebops January 18, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Reading the headlines it looks like talk of a gun ban has resulted instead in increased gun sales. Or was that the intention? Good times for sure for those who own gun shops.

102 The Mamba January 18, 2013 at 9:46 AM

What’s the point in trying to jam another law down the people’s throats that won’t pass? I’m all for more spending on mental health though, because there are crazy people running around in the streets of every city in California.

103 Mary January 18, 2013 at 9:59 AM

@ George
I did not get a letter neither. Hmm I guess he sends it to his brain dead supporters.

@ I support Obama and Miller as well
“Assault weapons are specifically designed to kill a lot of people in the least amount of time”
Are you sure? Have you asked the victims of Happyland? Oaklahoma Bombing? 911? Tate-LaBiance?
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I do not support gun regristration due to the fact the government can use the database against its citizens. It is our constitutional right to have arms. In order to keep the goverment in check should it come against us – a tyranniI cal government. I suppose many Liberals live in lalaland they think that can never happen here. YOUR WRONG!!! Aren’t you liberals the same crying out police brutality? Is this the same government that committed genocide against Native Americans? Is this the same government that experimented on American of African ancestry for human research without their knowledge? Is this the same government that rounded up Japanese, Italian, and Germans and placed them in internment camps by using the Census Record? YET !!! you moron liberals want us to give up our guns. HELL NOOO!!! Also if young kids are getting their hands on gun maybe it shows poor parenting. As a child how it was drummed into my head that MURDER was a SIN. Growing up watching police shows and movies, showed me that guns were not to play with and it can kill but it also showed me that Guns can save your life.

As for George Miller all these years the image of a Walrus comes to mind when I see him, not sure why lol. George – can you say FAST & FURIOUS ?

104 Howard K. Mullins III January 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Mr. Miller has outlived his usefulness as a representative of the citizens of this congressional district in CA.

In my opinion.

105 Bug-Etta January 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

George, some food for thought:

“I actually believe the president doesn’t have the guts to admit he doesn’t believe in the Second Amendment.” –Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)

“We can no longer depend on the Federal Government and this Administration to uphold a Constitution that they no longer believe in.”
Texas State Rep. Steve Toth

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. … Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants.” –Cesare Beccaria

Who’s ready for a rational discussion?

106 Anonymous January 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Miller is trying to distract people from his son fleecing the Mt Diabo school dist with the sweet heart solar panel deal. Two generations that have never had a real job

107 Rob January 18, 2013 at 10:56 AM

No right is absolute – including the 1st Amendment and the 2nd Amendment.

The 2nd Amendment does state guns or firearms – it states “arms” and “arms” contain a LOT more than just guns and yet we are prohibited from most other “arms” which the 2nd Amendment zealots don’t seem to care about at all…

108 @debdvo #89 January 18, 2013 at 11:19 AM

debdvo January 18, 2013 at 8:31 AM said:
“Seems selfish that those that think the assault type guns are fun and cool and a great hobby, don’t want to give that up- even if it could keep many unstable teens that have not even developed their empathy yet, from getting their hands on them. Not talking about thug violence, talking about the mindset of taking out as many people as possible in one shooting.”

Do you drive? Don’t you think that it’s selfish of you to own a car that can be stolen by an unstable teenager and used to kill people. Shouldn’t you give it up to help keep people safe? After all, you don’t NEED to drive. You can take a bus or taxi, right? Replace car with baseball bat, knitting needles, or any other object in your home with the POTENTIAL to cause injury or death if it falls into the wrong hands, and you get my point.

109 Achmed The Terrorist January 18, 2013 at 11:24 AM

For those of you who say that common citizens could never stave off a government with superior training and weaponry, think back to Iraq, Vietnam, and even the Revolutionary War. Then think about the number of guns in the hands of the American people. Yes, we are a real threat to a tyrannical government and they’re more than a little bit scared of us.

110 Mike Bellew January 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM

For all those who have gotten upset by some of the NRA statements about putting armed guards/police in schools, you should read #18 of the Executive Action:
“Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.”
Resource Officers are Police Officers in schools.

111 @Rob #107 January 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Yes, you’re right. I’m sure our founding fathers meant arms, as in the appendages that are connected at our shoulders. You should be on the Supreme Court.

112 skippy January 18, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Way to be proactive. Glad he’s my rep. Hey all you supposed Constitution lovers who post here, quick-without looking it up, how many amendments are in the Constitution? What is the 16th? The 23rd? What year was it ratified? I thought so. Hope your guns keep you warm at night.

113 not skippy January 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Skippy is kind of dippy.

114 Concordian January 18, 2013 at 12:34 PM

I think this is a good start he’s not asking to ban all guns just these military style assult weapons and I am all for it I stand behind the president hole heartedly. With these guns we have had some terrible senceless loses and if we never had these or had a ban on them then there would be no more sandy hook my heart goes out to all the families and the community who lost such valueable people.

115 Digger (Not in Concord anymore) January 18, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Have any of you liberals actually ever looked up what makes an “assault” rifle?

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds

Really doesn’t sound like these are anymore dangerous than most guns, just so you all know, Hitler is the one that came up with the term assault rifle, the more know *

116 Digger (Not in Concord anymore) January 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM

IN CA:

Senate Bill 23 Assault Weapon Characteristics

Effective January 1, 2000, Senate Bill 23, Statutes of 1999, establishes new criteria for defining assault weapons based on generic characteristics. This bill allows and requires persons who own/possess firearms that fall under the new “assault weapon” definition to register those firearms with the Department of Justice during the one-year period between January 1, 2000 and December 31, 2000. Effective January 1, 2000, this bill adds Penal Code Section 12276.1 to the Penal Code as follows.

12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, “assault weapon” shall also mean any of the following:
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
A thumbhole stock.
A folding or telescoping stock.
A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
A flash suppressor.
A forward pistol grip.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
A folding or telescoping stock.
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
“Assault weapon” does not include any antique firearm.
The following definitions shall apply under this section:
“Magazine” shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
“Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds” shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
“Antique firearm” means any firearm manufactured prior to January 1, 1899.
This section shall become operative January 1, 2000.

117 Anon2you January 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM

In a letter I received from GUNS:

Dear Owner,
Do you realized that every day the State and Federal Government spend Millions of dollars frivolously and have done so everyday for nearly 200 years. They spend countless hours creating laws that do little or nothing to protect the American citizen, but rather inflate their own ego, They have over the years sent millions of Americans of all ages, some younger that 15 years old, to their death fighting wars that many times the average American did not support nor endorse. Us GUNS have decided that the Government is the most dangerous thing to the American People, and ask that you join us in eliminating them. Save an American Life today, join with a GUN and eliminate your Congressman, before they eliminate YOU!
Sincerely,
Your Gun Kept Safe In Your House!

118 The Mamba January 18, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Congress is like the Senate’s special little brother.

119 Elwood January 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Sarcasm is lost on the tiny-brained folk.

120 Elwood January 18, 2013 at 2:30 PM

It’s nice to see that George is almost universally loved.

Especially by his minority entitlement constituents in Vallejo.

121 Signs that you might be a gun nut January 18, 2013 at 2:57 PM

* You take the easy way out and accuse the other side of lying, instead of offering solid facts to rebut an argument.

* You say someone has their head up their a** if they don’t agree with you, regardless of facts.

* You go crazy using caps for your rant about how your rights are in jeopardy and it’s just a matter of time until the gubmit goes the way of the Nazi party.

* If someone doesn’t agree with you, they’re not a true patriot.

* You resort to twisting names around, e.g. Obummer, Nobama, King Hussein – to show you’re part of the insider elite that knows *wink*wink* what’s “really” going on with this country.

* You can quote specs up the ying yang about all kinds of weaponry. Numbers galore and highly technical information. But you lack common sense about how the real world works and have a scary sense of self-importance.

Fortunately, it looks like the public tide is shifting toward more common sense.

122 Screwy Louie January 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Mary @103
Thanks, I Did “not niether” read the rest of your post with a opening like that. Keep perpetuating the stereotype.

Austrailia was able to ban assault weapons. Guess they were able to sift through all the NRA/Republican/Tea bagger type scare tactics and think more Big Picture.

123 Laughs@Tools January 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Louie who is Screwy @ 122,

So you tell us that “Australia was able to ban assault weapons.”

Correct you are – and what did that get them? More murders, their homicide rate UP more than 10% over the next 5 years.

How did the “gun loving” US do during that same period? Homicide rate DOWN 25%.

To continue, “Guess they were able to sift through all the NRA/Republican/ Tea bagger type scare tactics and think more Big Picture.”

Now that we know the carnage that resulted from their assault weapons ban, we have to ask how many hundreds or thousands of Australians would be alive today if only they had listened to the “NRA/Republican/Tea bagger type scare tactics”?

More importantly, how many Americans will die if an Australian style assault weapons ban is enacted? Are you ready to take responsibility for those deaths?

I didn’t think so.

Maybe the NRA et al use “scare tactics” because the outcome of a dis-armed citizenry is, in fact, scary?

124 good grief January 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM

I don’t even know what to say anymore. If YOU don’t believe in guns – don’t get one. Just leave mine alone.

I’d like to educate #63, #82, #83, #94 and maybe some others but apparently you don’t, and will never get it. The 2nd Amendment is for YOUR protection from tyrannical government. If you think 80 million people with weapons couldn’t defend this country then you are dumber than anyone here ever gave you credit for.

I trust my judgement and not the government no matter WHO is in office. Be it D or R

Many of the people in this country really are getting dumber…

125 Bubba January 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

I bet Georgie carries on as does Fienstien, and Polosi.

126 Bubba January 18, 2013 at 4:45 PM

I meant “carries one”.

127 skippy January 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM

@124- if you think the average person with a gun can stand up to the US military and all the weaponry its bloated budgets (which you probably support) have provided, you’re dreaming. And you call us dumb.

128 Jeff January 18, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Skippy – if you think the average person will get shot by their sons, brothers, and fellow countrymen, YOU are the one dreaming.

The military follows an oath to the Constitution. They will not obey illegal orders.

129 jim @ fresh and easy January 18, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Funny how people think our government wont go tyrannical….Just look at history. Governments are infamous for doing that. Especially considering its pretty well known that corporations and banks are running the gov. now a days. So is really that far fetched??? Look at it this way, many peoples grandparents in Europe didn’t believe it could happen to them…alot of them are ashes now. So this idea that we dont need guns is a joke…

Also the gun restrictions and all that will be done in increments until eventually the all out ban. The founders how pretty good idea for what was to come….”“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”

130 Not Skippy January 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Wow, Skippy is even more dippy than I thought.

131 Atticus Thraxx January 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Seems to me we’ve established gun violence is a public health threat. And a damn serious one. So the argument is what to do about it. I will ponder and get back to ya’ll with a solution as soon as I reasonably can. Might take a few days so be patient fellow citizens.

132 The scary gubmit is coming! January 18, 2013 at 7:00 PM

The problem with the issue of government tyranny? I think most educated, thinking people agree that yes, it has happened many times before in history. It can happen again. Where the gun nuts (the extremists, not the sane, responsible gun owners) run off the track is how they’re handling that cotingency.

The idea of individuals barricading themselves inside their homes with ther personal arsenals is more of a movie script idea than reality. If the U.S. government wants to take over, your little stash will be a joke. Between tanks, RPG’s, biological/chemical weapons, drones, etc…..are you getting a picture – how long do you think you’ll hold out?

Even roaming bands of independent armed militias are a joke. You guys are back in the day of the Founding Fathers.

I find the whole thing theatrical.

133 Vladimir Lenin January 19, 2013 at 10:11 AM

George Miller and Obama are my Comrades, we think alike.

134 Jeff January 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM

poster 132

What’s hysterical is the argument you make – that our own soldiers are going to kill their own simply because Obutthead wants them to.

Not going to happen. The military follows the Constitution as well, and if the President gave orders like that they would not be followed in most instances..

Besides, we have a hell of a lot more “militia” than we do soldiers in this country. 900,000 hunters in Wisconsin alone? You seem to forget just what has kept this country free all this time. Perhaps a brush up on history would clarify it for you.

The Founding Fathers had it right. It’s not the “gun nuts” – (interesting however that you choose to insult to get a point across, shows your argument is weak) – it’s the patriots of this country who will not allow confiscation nor registration, as they both violate our rights. Read up a little more and then let’s have an educated discussion.

135 @Jeff 134 January 19, 2013 at 12:09 PM

I don’t know what you smoke or what kool-aide you drink but you premise is false. If so soldiers would have stood up in WWII, Korean War, and the most controversial war the Vietnam War. Soldiers follow orders, and last I checked the Commander in Chief is the Pres. If there is a renegade group of soldiers who believe they are fighting for the constitution and the other 99.9% don’t, they will be dealt with swiftly and efficiently.

136 dinkydau January 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Another gangland shooting in Oaktown by the Bayfair Bart station. Take away all handguns!!!!!!!

137 Howard K. Mullins III January 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM

@dinkydau

Were any of the guns involved in that shooting owned legally by anyone? Were the guns purchased in a legal gun store with all of the appropriate laws observed?

I don’t know, perhaps you can tell me. How many law abiding responsible citizens took part in the shooting today and how many criminals took part in the shoot today?

I look forward to your response.

138 Fred P. January 19, 2013 at 5:07 PM

@dinkydau is a troll. Let’s extend this to the next problem….

Someone was killed over drugs – let’s ban all drugs!
Someone was killed due to alcohol – let’s ban alcohol!
Someone driving a car ran into others and killed them – let’s ban cars.

See what I mean?

139 Greta Garbo January 24, 2013 at 4:00 AM

Time to get you also out of office. If you are falling for Obama’s B.S. . Wake up and see what is really going on. Taking our rights, screen those in need of screening fine. Those that do not pass, and seem to be a person with signs of mechanical defect, help them, if they can’t be helped, get em off the street. They will find another way to hurt and kill.. We need to get rid of this problem and you are definately not part of the solution.

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