The Water Cooler: The Legal Marijuana Dealer in the City of Concord

October 8, 2012 12:00 pm · 155 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon!

Eric Rasmussen with KTVU recently did a story about a legal marijuana grow in a residential neighborhood in Concord.

Many residents are very upset this is happening in their neighborhood, but the City of Concord says it’s all 100% legal.

Watch the video by clicking on the photo above, then come back to Claycord.com and give us your opinion on whether or not you think marijuana grow operations should be operated out of residential neighborhood.

{ 155 comments }

1 Stupid Politicians October 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Marijuana grow operations are all over, could balance the state budget in a few years if it were taxed.

2 O WOW October 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Address Please lol hahahah

3 Todd S October 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

people are upset about 30? lol…..LOL……..LOL!!!!!

4 embarrassing October 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

I am embarrassed to call this city my home. What the heck is going on with our City leaders?

5 Atticus Thraxx October 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Got no dog in this fight. But I live in Dana Estates and have no issue with this. Barking dogs and a small army of leafblowers invading every day…. that is a problem.

6 Jim October 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

anyone notice that the guy has 2 tear drop tatoos on his face…they were tatted over to disguise them but they obviously were there…meaning….that boy has done time….so even though it’s legal I have trouble believing it’s all going to the dispenceries

7 Howard K Mullins III October 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

If people want to grow weed in their own backyard for personal consumption, more power to them. I would grow a few plants myself if I could get my hands on some seeds. But its not at the top of my list of things to do, so I am in no hurry.

Mariyana can be grown legally now, I don’t recall the amounts, but its a valuable crop. If it was taxed, this state would have a lot more money to waste on the bleeding hearts. The state would still be in deep debt, but the income from taxes would be greater, therefore, more money to waste needlessly and recklessly.

Marijuana shops should be run like liquor stores, heck, place them in liquor stores. Regulate and tax the crap out of it just like booze. If people ever decide to elected politicians with a mandate for a balanced budget, it will be easy with all of the revenue.

So, yes people should be able to grow in their backyards and people should be able to grow for their own usage. There should be a pot shop in every liquor store and chicken in every pot.

8 francisco cano October 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

wow let them get there money haters

9 Oh Wow Man October 8, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Funny how every time this subject comes up.
People think it is the Bible Belt people that put up the most time and money against it.

But it is the drug dealers and the people around them that continue to fight to keep it from becoming legal.

If it`s legal all the drug dealers would have to get real jobs.

So don`t think it is your local church that is fighting this.

It`s the guys selling this stuff, that don`t want or can afford for this to become legal

10 Anon October 8, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Looks like North Concord…that appeared to be Olivera Road in the background

11 Anon777 October 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM

First, your headline is misleading. He is a legal GROWER, legally selling to a dispensary. I would not label him a dealer.

Secondly, I have no issues with this whatsoever.

12 Highway Star October 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Stupid Californians and a stupid question. Growing marijuana isn’t allowed at all according to Federal law.

13 WC44 October 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Medical Marijuan is a joke. Just a quasi-legalization scheme. If you voted for this you are an idiot. Just like the voters for the magic bullet train (cost of $10 billion, no wait $110 billion), stem cell research (we need to save Michael J. Fox) and the lottery (no more school funding problems).

14 Raise the roof! October 8, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Unbelievable.Can’t our city do better than this?

15 NutCreek Frontier October 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Uh no, do not want grow houses, brothels or any other attractive nuisance businesses in my neighborhood. Fortunately, Walnut Creek does not seem to be as asleep at the wheel as the City of Concord

16 Winn October 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I agree with the comment regarding leave blowers… There’s a lot of people growing marijuana, in every city.

17 CLAYCORD.com October 8, 2012 at 12:39 PM

@Anon777, he’s a dealer. A person who sells cars is a car dealer, so why can’t he be called a marijuana dealer?

Maybe we should just meet in the middle and call him a “Marijuana Relocating Engineer”.

18 FAMILIES FIRST? October 8, 2012 at 12:41 PM

CONCORD, WHERE DRUG USERS COME FIRST AND FAMILIES COME LAST!!

19 Anon October 8, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Medical marijuana is a bunch of BS. If it was really used for what it was intended then so be it but it’s totally abused like everything else.

20 anon October 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Does anyone remember the Baker Dr murder or the Safeway shooting that left 2 dead. They were marijuana related shootings. Do you want that in your neighhborhood?

21 Anonymous October 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Just what we need, more dope in the community. People that talk about taxing it act like tax money would come from some amazing source. It wouldn’t, doesn’t create wealth, just makes for a bunch of stoned losers.

22 Koncord Kid October 8, 2012 at 12:47 PM

This kind of business should not be tolerated,,,,, I was cited for displaying a car for sale on a city street! It’s not legal to display a car for sale on a city street! I wonder if I could open a Body Shop in a residential area in Concord! I’m so confused about Concord and their policies ,,,,I see alot of Fruit Vendors selling strawberries door to door,, Ice Cream push carts,,with those annoying bells,,,and the yard sales in certain areas, same people yard sales every weekend! Hey City Of Concord,,,are you getting all your Tax base your entitled to?

23 Cowellian October 8, 2012 at 12:48 PM

He’s growing, and dealing, an illegal drug.

I would be very surprised if he was raided by the Feds, but since he’s breaking Federal law, that is a possibility.

24 who cares October 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Its neither mine nor anyone elses business who uses or grows or even sell marijuana. I would much rather have a house full of stoners who are quiet and eat snacks and play video games all day then a bunch of obnoxious drunks, and on top of that, whats the big deal its a plant with proven medical benifits.

25 Wisecracker October 8, 2012 at 12:59 PM

I hate to break the news to those who don’t know, but you have a permit (or whatever they call it) for medicinal marijuana use, you are also permitted to grow your own supply. I don’t know the restrictions on how many plants. I, personally, know someone who lives in Walnut Creek and is doing the same as this guy in the video.

I don’t know if this bothers me or not, I’ve never been a pot smoker, don’t plan on starting now, and currently don’t have ailments which I feel pot smoking will make better.

The part of this I do find to be a joke is when the “medicinal marijuana” user gets a permit to smoke pot legally for their ailments, and also grows their own supply, then end up selling their surplus to others. This is where it goes from a medicinal marijuana user to becoming a drug dealer. That is the way I see it anyway…

26 It Is Not Legal! October 8, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Not legal. Federal laws supersede any silly state or local laws and that’s the way it is folks! Besides, when California’s were tricked into being sympathetic to the medical marijuana law back in the 1990′s, they had no idea it would produce the outcome it has now.

Repeal medical marijuana now!!!!

27 Annon. October 8, 2012 at 1:01 PM

anon@20 HOW ABOUT THE PERSON WHO has brought this up to the city and police dept. THEY ARE BEING TOLD THEY ARE A TARGET. calls have gone out to Mark Peterson DA, the Police Chief, and Mark Desaunier. No one wants to get involved. this crop is smaller than last years and what will next year bring. How dare they put our lives in danger and ruin our quality of life. Atticus really surprised at your response.

28 BusBoy October 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM

@21

Doesn’t create wealth??!!! YOU my friend must have been smoking some of the very stuff you condemn. Look at the below numbers… California would see a windfall of revenue. I dont smoke it… never have… but if people are gonna do it anyway regardless of govt prohibition… oops um yeah you get the drift… then TAX IT.

TAX FACTS
The excise tax on one pack of cigarettes in California is currently $0.87.

Take a closer look at the cigarette tax dollars being collected in California in FY2010.

Excise Taxes — $845,928,927
Sales Taxes — $358,629,000

29 Fritzhugh Ludlow October 8, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Im world War II we called these “Victory Gardens”.

30 Not a dope smoker October 8, 2012 at 1:04 PM

So glad I moved away from Concord. I would not want that anywhere near my neighborhood. It attracts a certain element of crime and low life people and brings down the whole neighborhood. What a disgrace. The whole medical use thing is such a complete joke. I hope the neighbors stand up and fight for this to change.

31 concordctl October 8, 2012 at 1:06 PM

A collective dispensary may grow whatever number of plants that their collective is allowed. There are no state laws that govern where this may happen.

WC44: Marijuana *HAS* been to shown to be of legitimate medical use and has been used that way for well over 20 years *under federal law*, and it is legal under state law to grow for yourself or a dispensary collective. Your moral indignation is irrelevant.

I met a man once who lost his wife and child to the collapse of the Cypress Structure during the Loma Prieta quake. He’d also suffered severe cervical-spinal injuries during the collapse. He smoked high-grade pot to deal with the crippling neuropathy, and I met him long before 215 passed. If I ever see him again, I’ll be sure to tell him that some fool in Walnut Creek thinks he’s a lying POS for taking his medicine.

As for other things you mentioned, I’ll pick just one: stem cell research. Studies have also shown that stem cells may be able to be used in the near future to repair/regrow damaged nerves and spinal cord tissue. Go tell the next 10 wheelchair-bound accident victims that their only chance to walk again is morally wrong and see how many spit in your face.

32 HAHA October 8, 2012 at 1:07 PM

To all the people that were ignorant of this subject until it was posted on here, there’s MANY grow ops around this entire area but you don’t know cause their inside, and i know for a fact that there’s bigger ops that are all operating legally under California state law so suck it non believers..

33 So What? October 8, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Prohibition doesn’t work folks. Never has. Grow it, tax it and California is right back at the list of top economies in the world.

And no one would bother shooting people over it (and YES, a family member of mine was murdered in a marijuana deal gone bad) if it was as easy as going to a store and purchasing, just like America’s worst drug, alcohol. When was the last time you heard of a Back alley murder over a beer? Now drunks are dangerous………just not because of supply and demand the way marijuana is.

34 Annon October 8, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Victory Gardens, were vegetable gardens to help make food go around, stretch the dollar.

35 Anon2you October 8, 2012 at 1:20 PM

I am appalled by some of these responses, but not surprised because of the nature of this State right now. Californians voted to legalize certain aspects of Marijuanna use, cultivation and distribution. It was on the ballot, you had your chance to vote YES or NO. The voters said YES. But you Democrats (and I know you are) want the FEDERAL Government to dictate to California what they think is best. You want the feds to raid these fully legal establishments. This state has rolled over on it’s back and been dictated by Washington DC long enough. The Federal Obama Government clearly doesn’t do anything that is in California’s best interest. Stop giving the Federal government all of the power to dictate what the States should be doing. Also, YOU should have voted NO if you didn’t want Marijuanna “quasi” leagalized, but I guess you couldn’t make it to the POLLS that year right!

36 GoGo Gomez October 8, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Mayor “Marijuana Relocating Engineer”.
ROFLMAOBSATT!

37 sad it stinks October 8, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Legal is one thing, the smell is another. I am so tired of walking the dog and every other house smells like a skunk attacked it

38 Anonymous October 8, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Heck no!!! I do not want it grown in my neighborhood. I’m not so sure if marijuana serves any real medicinal purpose anyway or if it is just an excuse to use it. From what I am told in the city of Concord there is only a certain number of plants that can be grown legally per person per residence & then only with a card.& the cards are easy to obtain. I am told that in the state of California it is hard to prosecute an illegal grower. Too much of it is grown illegally & there is always the threat of a fire from electrical overloads & our homes are so close together. There is also the threat of retaliation from bad drug deals. The police should take more action when there is a complaint & if the city of Concord says it is 100% legal than maybe we need to speak up more at Council meetings.

39 KenInConcord October 8, 2012 at 1:25 PM

You all have to look at the big picture, Don’t under estimate what this company could do for the City of Concord! See examples below:

COMPANY——————ANNUAL REVENUE——-# EMPLOYEES
1 Pfizer———————–$ 67,809,000,000————122,200
2 Novartis——————–$ 53,324,000,000————138,000
3 Merck & Co.————–$ 45,987,000,000————–74,372
4 Bayer———————–$ 44,200,000,000————106,200
5 GlaxoSmithKline———$ 42,813,000,000————106,000
6 Johnson & Johnson—–$ 37,020,000,000———–102,695
7 Sanofi———————–$ 35,645,000,000———–100,735
8 Hoffmann–La Roche—-$ 33,547,000,000———-100,289
9 Ex-Con Weed Co.———————$3,000——————-2

Ken D.

40 Drunk vs. Stoned October 8, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Part of me is concerned about the total freedom in our society for drinking. Beer commercials, wine, liquor…bars everywhere. Drunks lying on the sidewalk. People driving under the influence. Mothers against drunk driving, …AA, …Mountain Vista Farm for alcoholics.

Has anyone seen a person cause an accident driving because of Pot smoking? Why not legalize it, the above post is 100% correct….the tax revenue would be staggering. It is already California’s #1 crop, but no one wants to admit it. We could export it as a cash crop to 49 other states, and other countries.

I think if they allowed personal use, and anyone who wanted could grow a couple plants in there backyard veggie garden…the criminal element would no longer have a market, Mexican drug cartel’s would lose their customer base…and you could still have laws on the books about being stoned and driving…

Remember Prohibition (or at least in history books or movies for you youngsters). It was a FAILURE, but did spawn the likes of Al Capone, Moran, Bugsy, …. you get it.

41 The Richards Family October 8, 2012 at 1:27 PM

A renter growing dope? He looked like a major crook. I bet if he was drug tested he would fail, did you see eyes…

Koncord Kid, the city doesn’t allow fruit vendors or pushcart food vendors. They pick them up all the time, the police get lazy about it for sure cause i have calle before and they get annoyed.

42 California nightmare October 8, 2012 at 1:30 PM

I agree with the majority of posters: Medical marijuana is a bunch of BS.

Marijuana has more carcinogens than cigarettes do. It also causes permanent brain damage. Calling it “medical marijuana” is an oxymoron.

Obama was a heavy pot smoker in his youth, and now he really struggles forming coherent sentences when he is without his teleprompter. Sad.

43 Anon October 8, 2012 at 1:31 PM

This should not be in a residential neighborhood. Why is anyone at the City of Concord even considering this? It is illegal. And it is not an acceptable act of civil disobedience. There are glaucoma and anti-nausea medications that are approved by FDA.

44 martinezdad October 8, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Pot heads really don’t want this stuff legalized because they’d lose their side job growing weed in their backyard or in the open space.

If marijuana was $10 a lb at Walmart I don’t think folks would be going to the effort and hassle of growing their own.

45 @Cowellian October 8, 2012 at 1:33 PM

It was the disguised woman growing. That guy was a buyer.

46 coolkat October 8, 2012 at 1:43 PM

They aren’t breaking any laws. Let it be. To the lady who spoke with concerns, hey be happy that it ain’t a meth lab.

47 No weed for me October 8, 2012 at 1:48 PM

But I think it’s ridiculous that it’s not completely legalized. Here we have an opportunity to improve California’s financial situation dramatically, but so many people sound like they just got done watching “Reefer Madness”.

Do you people have any idea how much tax revenue legal pot could raise? Better, cheaper stuff for those who choose to smoke it, gobs of money for the state, and less prison crowding when we stop jailing people on pot-related “offenses”. It’s a win-win-win situation!

48 Wisecracker October 8, 2012 at 1:53 PM

To all of you who think this is only happening in Concord… wake up. Medicinal Marijuana users are growing their own supply, at their homes, in other cities – not just Concord.

49 BAD IDEA October 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM

I do not want this crap legalized, it would just add to the DUI problems at a lower age and would be a lot harder to inforce. We have enough problems already we dont need to add to them. Those who argue that it would bring in a huge amount of tax money do not look at the other side of inforcing and regulating it that would end up burning up any profitable taxs brought in.

50 Jeff October 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I have no stake in this game….but here”s my take.

If it’s legitimately for medicinal use – I’m ok with it. Problem is 90% of the “medicinal” users are simply potheads who found a doc to give them a prescription.

To all those that say legalize and tax it, there’s NO WAY to do that right now. Since it’s still a federal crime, the feds could seize that income – and would.

Not to mention before it’s legalized you have to delve into issues such as intoxication in the workplace, DUI laws, etc…..

51 TinFoiler October 8, 2012 at 2:02 PM

The only reason (regretfully) I voted against marijuana was because it takes the zest for life out of the younger ones that want to sit around and get “high” all day.
As for healing, you may want to reconsider the OIL that is produced from this plant. Take your health into your own hands, Not some Medical Diety:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0psJhQHk_GI#!

http://phoenixtears.ca/

52 baffled October 8, 2012 at 2:03 PM

OMG Mayor I am crying from laughing so hard. My questions are … do they have guns to guard the crop? Are they allowed to possess the guns? Will the city of Concord take responsibility when someone is hurt in the commission of an armed robbery? We cannot park a boat in our driveways but we have no say about our neighbor growing that much pot in their back yard. WTH is the common sense? I certainly wish I knew who we need to vote out in this city because it is going to hell in a handbasket.

53 RudeGal October 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM

So, can anyone get a permit to grow? Even people with criminal backgrounds? That guy totally seems legit!

54 Shuley October 8, 2012 at 2:20 PM

@ California Nightmare – That has to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read. Obama has “brain damage” from smoking pot? Interesting. One would have thought that might have prevented him from becoming President of the Harvard Law review, or President of the US.

Marijuana is legal in California, and this guy’s grow is legal. Californians voted for it and so if you don’t like it there are 35 other states you can go to where it is not legal – although that number shrinks every year. According to the 10th amendment, the Fed is supposed to recognize states’ sovereignty. It WILL be legal in the US soon. Infact, next week the US court of appeals is hearing a lawsuit against the DEA and it is possible that DEA may reschedule marijuana – so it will no longer be an illegal drug. More than 70% of American support legalizing medical marijuana.

And for you people that are so glad there aren’t grows in your neighborhoods – you might want to wake t F up. I know of personally grows in very upscale neighborhoods in Walnut Creek, Pleasanton and Lafayette. There are grows of all different sizes in ALL neighborhoods. We need to legalize it, tax it and regulate it. 0 people die every year as a direct result from smoking marijuana where hundreds of thousands die from prescription drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.

55 Facts Here - Listen October 8, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Marijuana is growing EVERYWHERE. Your neighbors, empty buildings, anywhere there is either sun or available electricity. The more we grow here, in our own state, the less crime you will have. It’s the ILLEGAL drug trade coming in from Mexico, Canada and other places that create violence, gang and turf wars that result in crime.

Embrace the legal marijuana trade here in California. Whether you know it or not, it’s a blessing in disguise. And, if you think for one second it’s going away, or people are going to be deterred from consuming it, you are smoking crack. It IS proven to help on a medicinal level, period. No, not everyone has a condition that has a pot card. So what. At least they are buying legally, keeping the cash out of the criminals hands. Have some compassion and understanding, and realize over your 4 glasses of wine a night that others prefer different methods for their pleasure and enjoyment as well. And another fact – there has never been an overdose on marijuana, nor do people crash their cars, hence no term as “High Driving”. Alcohol is the worst poison out there. Make that illegal if you want to save lives.

56 Shuley October 8, 2012 at 2:27 PM

@ Mayor

Do you call the manufacturers of dangerous addictive legal drugs like Oxycontin, Hydrocodone, Xanax, etc “dealers”? What about distilleries and tobacco farmers. Are they “dealers” too? He is a grower. That’s how the medical marijuana industry refers to him. I bet Concord readers would be surprised to know that there are dispensaries in Concord too – delivery only.

57 anonymous215 October 8, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Stop saying medical pot growers are criminals they are not the problem there so many more drugs on the street you need to worry about medical cannabis saves lives no matter what way you look at it alcohol and tobacco is alot more addictive and kills more people every year stop harassing medical users and growers if someone is growing pot in their backyard or home mind your own business its not affecting your life or your neighborhood if your against medical cannabis then you obviously don’t know your facts

58 cmt October 8, 2012 at 2:50 PM

There is a person behind my house that grows. I have COPD and alot of breathing troubles, and the smell of skunk is overwhelming mostly at night when I try to sleep. It effects my breathing. and I know that the guy grows much more than he needs. We need to clean up this city………..get going on voting this year and vote out some of the city council memebers…..they are all crooks

59 @Jeff October 8, 2012 at 2:52 PM

You said it beautifully, for every single legitimate medical user, there are 9 stoners abusing the system. Sorry, have seen too many 30 year waste- cases, not working, brain cells blown, with very little hope of recovery from their very expensive addiction. Anyone who thinks this is a benign harmless drug really only needs to go to one Marijuana Anonymous meeting to be set straight.

60 #crook October 8, 2012 at 2:54 PM

#crook

61 CLAYCORD.com October 8, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Yes, they are all dealers.

62 unknown October 8, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Second hand smoke am I going to get high then drive and get arrested for DUI, all because of someone else habit.???????
Will the city take your word you don’t do drugs???????????

63 Mark October 8, 2012 at 2:59 PM

@WC44 you’re an idiot!

64 Connie Dobbs October 8, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Why do you hate cancer patients?

65 Starfire October 8, 2012 at 3:01 PM

@Shuley #56

They are not “dealers”. Those are called “drug companies” or “Pharmaceutical Companies”.

66 @anon2you October 8, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Please…that ballot measure happened so long ago it is not even relevant if you voted for it or against now. It was promoted as something it no longer is about…providing some relief for those dying of cancer or other terminal disease.
However it has become a big joke today. Any teen can pay a quack, unethical doctor $150 for a “medical marijuana card” for some nonsense like glaucoma or back pain. It is total hogwash and you know it. Same for the dispensaries. They are NOT non-profit organizations like you would expect for people in the “healing” business. They are multi-millionaires but you are do dazed and confused, you have no idea what medical marijuana had become about.

REPEAL MEDICAL MARIJUANA NOW!

67 Shuley October 8, 2012 at 3:09 PM

@ Jeff

“To all those that say legalize and tax it, there’s NO WAY to do that right now. Since it’s still a federal crime, the feds could seize that income – and would.”

There are plenty of cities that are already taxing medical marijuana clinics, have been for years and the Fed has not taken their income. In Oakland, medical marijuana taxes are the 2nd largest source of revenue for the city next to parking violations. Berkeley and San Francisco also make large incomes from ED Marijuana clinics. All city councils have passed resolutions demanding the federal government stop closing their clubs. And there has been no measurable increase in crime in areas with medical marijuana dispensaries – in fact just the opposite.

As far as intoxication in the workplace, DUI, etc. those laws are already in place. And it is up to the employer to make their own policies. Should those same restrictions apply to people on prescription drugs? Would it be okay to go to work high on vicodin but NOT marijuana?

Most people that have medical marijuana cards don’t use it for medical reasons, I agree. However, it is still far less dangerous than alcohol – so I don’t really care. If they want to be pot heads – it’s a free country. Ask the all-time greatest Olympic champions in history (winter or summer games) what they think.

I’m amazed that someone who thinks the government should not interfere with his right to own firearms would have ANY problem with the gov’t interfering with something as harmless as pot.

68 Judge Roy Bean October 8, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Get a Bulldozer and plow it under….The City is losing reasonable control. Should be limited to commercial property and commercial zone..
I say doze it over or burn it. Who is the dumb A-hole that says they are quiet and I don’t care….bug-off… STAND UP and FIGHT…and get the operation out of your neighborhood and fire the City Council.

69 @shuley October 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Great post!! A bunch if morons posting on here about marijuana being a bad thing.. “It smells like a skunk” shut the F up!! It’s harmless.

70 Judge Roy Bean October 8, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Any police officer in the Bay Area says this is on of the bigest scams in history. Yes it is true for every 1 or 2 legitimate users 9 are abusers of the system and all the shady dealing and slime that are involved. Expose the location of this sack of scum…FIGHT BACK and run them out of Concord…THIS is pure Bull-SH((*(&

71 To the Frends of David October 8, 2012 at 3:28 PM

The upside is my weed-free children will be competing against these brain-cell deficient bogus medical cases for a job when she gets out of school. For that reason I say let-em smoke!

Like I tell that fool… That Medical card:

* will not get you past a job interview,
* will not get you through a class at school
*will not mean crap to father of the girl you want to date
*will not get you into the air force
*will not make your dealing drugs OK
*will not open the door to a empty house to party
*will not drive you around town since you lost your license
*will not reduce the community service hours you need to complete
*will not make it OK to shoplift bottles of Vodka
*will not replace the money stolen from your roomate’s purse
*will not prevent your father from changing the locks when your 18
*will not change people from laughing AT you when your are wasted
*will not stop people from see you as a provider, and not a quality person
*will not matter to those you should really be worried about impressing!
*will not help you when your on independent studies
*will not impress a college admission board

That card will allow you to walk around with weed in your pocket!
I hope some day you realize that carrying the weed is not the problem, it what it does to you when you smoke it!

72 nytemuvr October 8, 2012 at 3:30 PM

@Annon #34
They are Victory Gardens as such…people trying to stretch their income. It works better than anything than other “legal” drugs for my Crohns and intestinal problems; I don’t have any appetite without a hit or two. Plus California voted it legal to grow at home. Go drink your alcohol and kill someone on the road, that worries more than a “stoner” driving, which I don’t do. How do you know it’s not a skunk in your neighborhood?

73 Shuley October 8, 2012 at 3:49 PM

@ Judge Roy Bean

I would think someone who calls himself a judge would know that a city has no control over state ordinances. It’s legal in the state of California and specifically the law states municipalities cannot prohibit medical marijuana operations (Pack v. Long Beach).

Also, there are more police organizations that support legalization than there are that oppose it. Most cops know pot crimes are a waste of time and resources and they would much rather spend our tax dollars fighting real crime.

74 Starfire October 8, 2012 at 3:49 PM

continue from #65…..got cut off

@Shuley #56

Pharmaceutical Companies are perfectly legal companies–filed with the FDA, SEC, EMEA, etc. Now–when you sell weed out of your backyard–then you are considered a drug dealer. Very big difference.

75 Annon October 8, 2012 at 3:51 PM

For those who feel strongly about the cultivation in the backyards of Concord. Please come to the City Council Meeting tomorrow night, 7pm. They have been notified that this will be brought up and the idea is to at least bring it indoors with security. If we can not stop this. Read Whatever on Claycord. If you help stand up for this we can make a difference….Please come to the meeting at 7pm, speak if you like or just say I agree with what has been said or disagree. Thank You

76 Judge Roy Bean October 8, 2012 at 3:59 PM

The two sack of Sh**s from the Safeway shooting live on my street….the foot traffic at the house is annoying along with the other house that sells meth. What gets me is CPD and CCSD all know these fine citizens and do nothing. IT SUCKS

77 nytemuvr October 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM

@BAD IDEA#44
Too late, it has been legalized in CA….it’s enforce not inforce. You all let your kids go to college and be drunks the rest of their lives. I worry more about the meth labs than anything…. they should ‘inforce’ those laws with more delegacy.

78 mortimer October 8, 2012 at 4:13 PM

What are you gonna do? If it keeps those thugs off the street and out of our houses , let them make some money for themselves.

79 anon October 8, 2012 at 4:14 PM

By then and(maybe now)they are or will be Gone! by the time you smell it it’s done! City screwed up again. Maybe next year!

80 Princess21 October 8, 2012 at 4:28 PM

As a DAILY marijuana smoker who does everything I would do SOBER..STONED I find this s**t hilarious! SERIOUSLY!! I am stoned 99.9% of my day and literally run circles around people.. I also graduated from High School and College to be exact..(while being stoned EVERYDAY) and now work as a top underwriter for a mortgage co..(& am still stoned everyday)..WEED is NOT A DRUG!! How can we make opiets such as adavan, xanax, norcos and oxys legal when people die EVERYDAY from that or even ALCOHOL?? Have you ever heard of someone dieing from weed?? LOL!! get over it people..

81 Isn't it a farm? October 8, 2012 at 4:39 PM

It seems to me that if this person is growing it for sale (legally to the dispensery), then he has a “crop”, which is a “farm”. Is his home zoned as a “farm” or just “residential”? Certain businesses can not opperate in a residential area. Isn’t that what happened to the little girls selling their zuccini out in Clayton? So, his business may be legal, but his location may not be!?

82 vicki October 8, 2012 at 4:46 PM

WC44- Stem cells are doing amazing things. Maybe even helping paralyzed people walk in the future. Be sure and turn down the treatment if it’s ever offered to you while you are desperate and dying.

83 System Admin October 8, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Many people are upset?

DEAL WITH IT

84 System Admin October 8, 2012 at 4:51 PM

#75

I’m gonna be there, arguing AGAINST your cause.

85 Anonanonsmoker October 8, 2012 at 4:55 PM
86 The Real McCoy October 8, 2012 at 5:02 PM

I don’t care if someone grows a couple plants in their backyard – but growing 30 plants where they can easily be spotted is just asking for trouble, and I’d be pretty pissed if this guy was my neighbor. At the very least keep them in a greenhouse and don’t advertise the fact that you have THIRTY PLANTS.

87 Howard K Mullins III October 8, 2012 at 5:02 PM

While marijuana is a (lol) controlled drug, the values of hemp are being ignored. Clothing, rope, perhaps even an alternative to plastics and an alternative fuel source are just a few of the values of the crop that are wasted because people freak out when anyone mentions marijuana.

Our government can put together taxes, rules and regulations and penalties in a nano second to control fly farts. There is no reason that legalising marijuana cannot be legalized and ALL of the by products used to our best advantage. Cotton costs a bundle now, hemp is cheaper and easier to grow and more profitable for farmers.

Kids can get any drug they want today, booze included. Legalizing weed will not make much of a difference. Kids raised by respectable, responsible and accountable parents will be able to teach children the evils of drugs just like they teach the evils of booze.

Legalizing all controlled drugs is the real and logical answer to the drug wars problems. Once anyone can buy drugs legally, the need for criminals to deal drugs diminishes. They’ll find something else to deal, but it won’t be drugs, no more profit.

88 funny man October 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM

y’all need to chill and MYOB! gesh, keep the gubmint outta my womb, outta my air and outta my ammo box, but take away the harmless plant GOD created! If God didn’t want you smoking pot… he shouldn’t have created it? Last I checked pot isn’t some genetically modigifed orgamism!

89 Darwin October 8, 2012 at 5:42 PM

If that address gets out that neigborhood is in real trouble. The medical marijuana crowed tends to have criminal cult like following (mostly scumbags). I don’t smoke, but voted to legalize it. It would solve the states financial crisis and it is no worse than alcohol.

90 Menegene October 8, 2012 at 5:42 PM

@ Judge Roy Bean
Guaranteed, if at this time the CPD could do something about it today, they would. But, what they aren’t going to do is an unlawful seizure & get sued by a POS. That would make all te taxpayers happy wouldn’t it?

CPD saved my neighborhood, sorry no laws are being broken your way :(

91 Dennis October 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM

@funny man that would be the same God that created Curare, Ricin, etc?

92 nytemuvr October 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM

It was legal until the 20s when the law was changed to drive Mexicans out of Texas and the South in the first place. It was a viable and legal crop until then. Still don’t believe how ignorant people are about it.

93 Hemp for Victory October 8, 2012 at 6:02 PM

first mary jane isint a drug its a weed it grows naturally from the ground. and without it the Good ol’ USA might not even be around, hemp which comes from weed, has been part of this country since the start
.George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both grew hemp. Ben Franklin owned a mill that made hemp paper. Jefferson drafted the Declaration of Independence on hemp paper.

*When US sources of “Manila hemp” (not true hemp) was cut off by the Japanese in WWII, the US Army and US Department of Agriculture promoted the “Hemp for Victory” campaign to grow hemp in the US.

*Because of its importance for sails (the word “canvass” is rooted in “cannabis”) and rope for ships, hemp was a required crop in the American colonies.
many companies such as BMW and FORD are studying the use of hemp fibers to be used in their cars, the only reason why weed has been banned in this country was because of william randolph hearst , who stood to lose a fortune from his trees if hemp paper was to be used for news print so he used his influence to make weed evil thus stopping the use of hemp in the US

94 Dennis October 8, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Gee, we legalized guns and booze and drivers licenses for illegals, and all the crime associated with them vanished! Legalizing pot would accomplish the same! I bet legalizing a pot pill that doesnt get ya high would get shouted down by all those currently pimping for legalization. The medicinal value is just an excuse to legalize your favorite high. And yes, Virginia, one blunt has more carcinogens than an entire pack of cigs. PS maybe you can start a petition to legalize medical meth, you know, for consumption by those with prescriptions only? Same deal.

95 Schmee October 8, 2012 at 6:13 PM

I could name three larger operations in concord. So y’all are ignorant.. is this big news. Most of you idiots don’t know half of what goes on in this country lol.

96 Dennis October 8, 2012 at 6:16 PM

And just think about all the tax we’d get from medical meth! CA would have lots of money for schools and cops and … hey lets legalize tax tax everything currently against the law! We wouldnt need cops, even! Yeah, cool! Uh … can you pass the Cheetos, man? I got a serious case of munchies….

97 justice October 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM

NOOO no no

98 anon October 8, 2012 at 6:25 PM

If it’s all legal then why is his address such a secret? If you really want him to stop growing pot then give out his address or picket with your neighbors in front of his house.

99 wtf really? October 8, 2012 at 6:28 PM

oh no weed? lets get rid of weed & keep alcohol, cigs, pain pills & guns that kill people everyday, but lets all hate on weed.
get a grip people, all it does is make you laugh and eat.
& to the guy who says he has COPD and the smell makes him have breathing problems…. ITS BECAUSE YOU SMOKE OR SMOKED CIGGERETES & you messed up your OWN lung. dont pull that bullsh*t,
all you people piss me off, i think im gonna go smoke right meow.

100 tess tickles October 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM

#40 said it all. some of you just refuse to listen to the facts . and i don’t even smoke weed . i would rather live next to a pothead than a drunk any day

101 Let's blame Mexico October 8, 2012 at 6:45 PM

WIKI

One source of tensions in the western and southwestern states was the influx of Mexicans to America. Many Mexicans also smoked marijuana to relax after working in the fields.[16] Later in that decade negative tensions grew between the small farms and the large farms that used cheaper Mexican labor. Shortly afterwards the Great Depression came which increased tensions as jobs and resources became more scarce. Because of that, the passage of the initial laws is often described as a product of racism, yet use of hashish by near eastern immigrants were also cited, as well as the misuse of pharmaceutical hemp, and the laws conformed with other legislation that was being passed around the country.

102 Case in point: Tim Lincecum!!! October 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

How does a two time Cy Young winner lose his mojo and wind up out of rotation for a Major League Baseball team? Marijuana!!

Lincecum is a known pothead. And look at where that got him in a short time in his young career. Hitting bottom!!!

Pot ruins lives. Don’t believe the users and dealers who keep trying to convince us otherwise. They have purely selfish motives.

REPEAL MEDICAL MARIJUANA! If we had a chance to vote on it today, it would happen. Lets do it!!

103 Menegene October 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM

It shouldn’t be that much of a secret, on clip from channel 2 leaves were poking through the fence!

104 Dennis October 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Marijuana Poses More Health Risks
By Jessica Ryen Doyle

Published June 12, 2008

Marijuana potency increased last year to the highest level in more than 30 years, posing greater health risks to people who may view the drug as harmless, according to a report released Thursday by the White House.

The latest analysis from the University of Mississippi’s Potency Monitoring Project tracked the average amount of THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, in samples seized by law enforcement agencies from 1975 through 2007. It found that the average amount of THC reached 9.6 percent in 2007, compared with 8.75 percent the previous year.

The 9.6 percent level represents more than a doubling of marijuana potency since 1983, when it averaged just under 4 percent.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2008/06/12/marijuana-poses-health-risks/#ixzz220EPrTqB

105 Dennis October 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Experts are warning that the public dangerously underestimates the health risks linked to smoking cannabis.

The British Lung Foundation carried out a survey of 1,000 adults and found a third wrongly believed cannabis did not harm health.

And 88% incorrectly thought tobacco cigarettes were more harmful than cannabis ones – when the risk of lung cancer is actually 20 times higher.
A new report from the BLF says there are established scientific links between smoking cannabis and tuberculosis, acute bronchitis and lung cancer.

Cannabis has also been shown to increase chances of developing mental health problems such as schizophrenia.

Part of the reason for this, say the experts, is that people smoking cannabis take deeper puffs and hold them for longer than when smoking tobacco cigarettes.

This means that someone smoking a cannabis cigarette inhales four times as much tar as from a tobacco cigarette, and five times as much carbon monoxide, the BLF says.

However, each cannabis cigarette they smoke increases their chances of developing lung cancer by as much as an entire packet of 20 tobacco cigarettes, the BLF warned

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18283689

106 JACKIE October 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

BURN IT DOWN!

107 Joke October 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

1. If legal to grow at home, no one will pay taxes. That’s a fantasy.

2. The current medicinal marijuana system is a fraud.

3. Alchohol causes lots of problems. Why add to that ? No good reason exists.

4. Require an honest prescription the same as for narcotics and let legitimate use for marijuana become a reality in the medical profession.

5. To the rest of you pot heads and dealers- get a life.

108 funny man October 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

and? man extracted those poisons to use on each other. THC isn’t poisionous.
God created carbon, man invented gunpowder, God created molucules, man invented meth, God created atoms, man invented atomic bombs, etc, etc
I’m seeing a pattern here and it’s not with God’s natural creation, it’s with his flawed pet project, Man.
Maybe you should ask yourselves why you are afraid of an inanimate plant, no one is forcing you to smoke pot

109 Atticus Thraxx October 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Whoa, whoa, whoa bubba@100. Let’s not drag guns into this. I didn’t sign up for any of that shit.
I don’t care if pot is legal. I don’t care if gays want to marry. But I am sick and GD tired of hearing about both of them. Look, legalize it, let the friggin gays marry and let’s come up with a flat rate tax we all can live with, and LET’S MOVE THE F**K ON ALREADY!

110 Jeff October 8, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Shuley, dont get me wrong. I actually think legalization is an option to be discussed – but there are a lot of considerations other than “hey man (best gallagher voice) lets like legalize it”

I dont personally care to have anything to do with it, but i also dont hear a lot of talk about a) what limit is a dui with marijuana? B) how long are you intoxicated? C) who determines whether or not you can be fired for having a medicinal need, thus creating “intoxication” at work. There is no federal protection under ada that im aware of for pot users… Because its still illegal on a federal level.

Taxing it could be a great source of income, and if used properly, great. Im one who believes that if obama gets re-elected and continues to expand the federal government, they WILL come for that money.

My whole point was that before it is legalized, there are a slew of differences on a federal/state level that need to be addressed. Thats all….

As far as guns – thats a different topic. Its in the constitution, weed isnt.

111 mwo1859 October 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Weed has never killed anyone! Legalize it and get the tax money. By the way I have not smoked since 1990.

112 Bob H. October 8, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Sorry, but did not read the first 102 responses. Gasoline prices are sky rocketing( will come down so GOV. B.can get his tax passed) Health premiums will go out of sight with the Obama does not care bill. And you folks are worried about a couple of plants growing in a yard. When did being realistic leave our society .

113 CHECKTHISOUT October 8, 2012 at 8:54 PM
114 Freddie Spaghetti October 8, 2012 at 9:23 PM

ROLL ‘EM IF YA GOT ‘EM!!!

115 Always Right October 8, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Some posters supporting pot are claiming that Marijuana is harmeless. Most people know better. Smoking anything is dangerous, and unfiltered marijuana has in fact more carcinogens than cigarettes.

Consider this FACT before you suggest we need to liberalize laws to legalize pot:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090615095940.htm
“There have been many studies on the toxicity of tobacco smoke. It is known that tobacco smoke contains 4000 chemicals of which 60 are classed as carcinogens. Cannabis in contrast has not been so well studied. It is less combustible than tobacco and is often mixed with tobacco in use. Cannabis smoke contains 400 compounds including 60 cannabinoids. However, because of its lower combustibility it contains 50% more carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons including naphthalene, benzanthracene, and benzopyrene, than tobacco smoke.”

Let’s also not forget the long term mental damage that comes from regular pot use.

116 I'm The Urban Spaceman October 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Splitting hairs here…
Re Legalizing Drugs; I don’t think Meth would qualify for legalization as it’s a synthetic drug and not a natural product.
e.g. Pot, Magic Mushrooms yes, mescaline no…LSD & Ecstasy no

117 Shiloh October 8, 2012 at 10:19 PM

SO GLAD I AM NOT ADDICTED TO ANY SUBSTANCE. Those who are sound like FOOLS. Princess21, do you hate yourself?? High almost 100% of the time? You just can’t stand to live life sober? Well, that is a problem in my book. Hope you get yourself some help real soon.

118 Facts Here - Listen October 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Watch “The Union” http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007

There you will find more truth to the matter. Just watch 60 seconds. If you are not hooked after that, then you don’t really care about truth.

119 iamerica October 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Time to move your gardens Clayord the politically correct police are out. Lets be real it grows from the ground, requires sunlight and water. It’s not chemically processed like cigarettes or alcohol. It’s just a matter of regulation now. And one day it will pass. And hopefully the true harsh drugs that we intake daily without even knowing will be what’s illegal.

120 the Shi ite October 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Quit being WEAK and asking for a TAX. Ever heard of the Boston Tea Party?
Tea = Leaf = Natural. Marijuana = Leaf = Natural.
Why not just TAX bananas and all produce and Government can declare itself as God the Provider of all these things.
If you have to depend on a Health care system or Government to take care of you, you are in a sad state.

121 Subterfuge October 8, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Yes. Grow it, sell it, tax it, smoke it. And remember, it’s puff puff pass!

122 Seal October 8, 2012 at 11:14 PM

@Princess21
No matter how you put it–medically or non-medically, marijuana is a drug. Yes, it is grown in the great earth and it has excellent medicinal properties. But in California, unless you have a medical marijuana card it is an ILLEGAL DRUG.

123 anonares October 8, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Hey people. This is a simple buisness being run out of a house in a residentual neighborhood. I don’t F###ing care if they are selling umbrellas from their front porch. To have a business, remember that this person is growing an amount greater then is allowed for their personnel consumption and selling it ” a business” 2 things need to be obtained prior to this being allowed. 1) They need to register this business with the city. 2) The first thing the city requires of applicant, is that they own the property. 3) they heed to file a land use application that requires them to notify surrounding property owners of the intent to locate a business in a residentual neighborhood. Pay attention stoners! Nobody is trying to prevent you from getting cured of your ailments. Obey the laws of the localities where you live. If you don’t like the laws that have existed for decades, that people have spent their time “crafting” so we can all enjoy our homes, MOVE! By the way – any of the local enforcement people who are saying that this is OK, read the above. We will come for you next. Don’t do what you think is your job. Follow our laws.

124 John October 9, 2012 at 3:11 AM

You guys are ridicoulous, marijuana has proven benefits. It may not be for everyone, but I smoke daily and I’m perfectly healthy. How about you guys go crazy over banning fast food or cigerattes as it kills many people a year. I think indulging all that food is killing your soul and body at the same time. lol what a sad society marijuana is harmless open your eyes and stop listening to your government so much…Oh yeah marijuana also stops cancer cells from spreading. It’s bigger then marijuana that’s why the government cracks down on it. Legalizing marijuana will cause a huge blow on the drug prescription industry. Whether you want to accept the FACTS or not, the asprin, any pain killer, beer, microwave food, etc etc etc…in your house is worse then weed…..wait what am I saying how can it be worse? when there’s nothing wrong with it lol…one love open your eyes guys.

125 John October 9, 2012 at 3:14 AM

ummm TIM LINCECUM actually stopped smoking this season….yeah exactly look what he’s doing now….

126 Scoob October 9, 2012 at 6:36 AM

Marijuana is and should be allowed to be grown in residential gardens. Its time to end the war on drugs that has been a dismal failure. Prohibition does not work. The black market created by the war on drugs is responsible for most of the crime in our communities. The Federal law will be changed, its just a matter of time.

127 Scott October 9, 2012 at 6:58 AM

30 plants isnt a big deal and by making a stink about it like the neighbors did is what will attract people looking to thieve which happens all the time October, november is harvest season peak smell easy to find as it is without neighbors blowing whistles. if the cops come by and clear it back off its his buisness his backyard.

If you people would just get off the wagon of hating on a plant you might realize how unique it is. why not stop into oaksterdam university in oakland, take a look at a live small grow op, see how beautiful the plant is, the unique smells, some smell just like an orange tree, others skunky, literally every fragrance on this earth can be found in one strain or another of cannabis. it glistens in the light at peak ripeness. It is truly a wonder of nature, a gift from God, and you people want to hate on it basically just because youve been told to.

128 Koncord Kid October 9, 2012 at 7:17 AM

I will be attending tonites meeting and hope to get this thing overturned! This drug house has to go!

129 mad mom October 9, 2012 at 7:23 AM

I will never understand why people hate medical pot but are ok with legal morphine and methadone use. My neighbor has been on legal drugs for 20 years and it’s ruining her life! My husband won’t take the prescription drugs and uses med pot. He still lives an active life while my friend sleeps hers away! We are a mess when it comes to logical pain management!

130 Antler October 9, 2012 at 7:49 AM

#124 ~ ~ ~ Yep, glad someone finally got to the nitty-gritty of it.

Have had an education reading all these comments……..never smoked nor smelled marijuana, so I didn’t know it smells like skunk. In our yard, if you smell skunk it’s because the Great Horned Owls have scored another kill out in CNWS!

Would like to hear more about any increased expectation of gang drive-by shootings into these residential “grow yards”…..whether the substance is legal or not. Seems as though the “importers”…say from their own sources in Mexico or from what is called “The Golden Triangle” (Mendocino up to Humboldt over to Siskiyou/Trinity counties). We have personally seen plants irrigated with drip systems on BLM in Siskiyou County. hmmmmmm….didn’t smell like skunk, though…mayber overpowered by pine and fir scents???

131 Randome Task October 9, 2012 at 7:50 AM

ok look it is real simple sure john j is growing and selling ..because the market allows it as long as he is profiting he will grow and sell…..if the state legalized it and grew its own ….and sold it cheaper than any other could sell it the back yarders would go out of business …now the real money would come from the sales and tax and excise tax on all things related …lighters, papers, pipes, you get the drift all those things would be regulated and taxed ….sure john j could start makeing his own pipes ..etc but those would be illegal if not through the proper channels and yeah not any joe can just whip out glass in his or her back yard and not make attention for themselves …..used to be people made their own beer and booze to bypass the law …..some still do and yet no problems there and yes boozers make more problems and damage and abuse than any pothead just check the logs how many times has pothead one abused his pothead girl while smokeing or even got up for that matter lol. this is all for not because everyone here is claiming they know what to do …as not one knows how this will turn out it is all in fun and should be looked at that way …if you want to actually do anything …..register and vote that is how you make policy and change not by banging keys and throwing out terms and words to nobody who cares

132 Long time Reader October 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM

What’s wrong is right, what’s right is wrong. Hmmmm. Sounds like something is not the way it should be.

133 Judge Roy Bean October 9, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Go set up a commercial egg operation in your back yard and see what happens…The City has every legal right to control commercial operations in residential neighborhoods. The Weed is growing through his fence…anybody can pick what they need. .I would call that a public hazard…shut it down.
Who ever issued the permits must be a user, that also as so many adults & City planners seem to be in a perpetual fog.

134 Jeff Spicoli October 9, 2012 at 9:30 AM

I don’t see what the all the fuss is about… I’ve used pot heavily since the early 80′s and I turned out just fine. Aloha Mr. Hand!

135 Auntie Em October 9, 2012 at 9:44 AM

The Clovis City Council approved stricter rules Monday night for its 6-year-old medical marijuana ordinance, but rejected an outright ban on pot grows.

Mayor Jose Flores pushed for the ban — even for medical purposes — but the council majority backed off after City Attorney David Wolfe said it would be expensive to defend in court.

Wolfe said a complete ban also would hamper the Police Department’s efforts to control the cultivation of medical marijuana.

“There are hundreds of personal-use grows in the city,” Wolfe said in a staff report. “If [police] had to enforce a complete ban, they would likely be met with resistance and challenges at every step of the way.”

The updated ordinance, Wolfe told the council, will give police the authority to direct valid medical marijuana users to grow the crop inside their home where it can’t be seen or inside a locked structure on their property.

With Flores dissenting, the council voted 4-1 to enact the ordinance, which takes effect in 30 days. No one from the public spoke against it.

Since 1996, when California voters approved Proposition 215 to permit medical use of marijuana, cities and counties have struggled to enact ordinances governing medical marijuana that can withstand legal challenge.

Clovis already bans outdoor marijuana gardens, dispensaries and patient-to-patient sales.

On Sept. 10, the City Council moved to toughen its rules. Among the changes: growing of pot plants is restricted to a 32-square-foot indoor area that can’t be seen from the outside.

Since Sept. 10, Wolfe has researched whether an outright ban could be legally defended. His conclusion: no way.

According to Wolfe, four California cities — including Selma and Tracy — have banned medical marijuana. “Legal challenges have been threatened or are pending,” Wolfe said, but no California appellate court has addressed the issue.

He advised the council to wait until the California Supreme Court weighs in before tackling a ban.

The updated ordinance, Wolfe said, is a balance between a person’s medical needs and potential nuisances that arise from growing the plant.

Police Chief Janet Davis agreed. “This gives us a more effective tool,” Davis told the council, adding that police enforce the ordinance when they receive a complaint.

Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/10/08/3022545/clovis-rejects-pot-ban-tightens.html#storylink=cpy

136 O WOW October 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Yes Weed will turn you into a lazy pos that will accomplish nothing in life Just ask Ryan Phelps lol hahahaha

137 Shuley October 9, 2012 at 10:19 AM

@ case in point – Tim Lincecum

you think he JUST started smoking pot? He got where he is today having smoked most of the time. His downfall actually came after he quit. So, I guess the same goes for Michael Phelps, Shaun White, 50% of the NBA, the list is long..

@ anyone else who cares
I work within this industry. And NO, I am not a grower, dealer, I do not work directly with Marijuana at all actually (and I would not be ashamed if I did). I actually work within the activism/legal side. And most of the comments I see from the naysayers are based on their complete and utter ignorance of the structure, the legalities and attitudes of the business. Legalizing marijuana actually has DECREASED the access to kids. You can NOT find a doctor that would issue a recommendation to a kid and you can not find a legitimate dispensary that will sell to one. Many growers prefer to get legal and sell their crop (which will be tested for potency, genetics, pesticide or chemical traces, cannabanoids, thrichromes, etc etc) to dispensaries because it is guaranteed to be sold, the price is about the same and it is far less hassle. It is still easy to buy street weed in Concord, Antioch, etc because they have not allowed dispensaries. In areas where dispensaries are permitted, there are far less street dealers (and they wont card you will they) because there is far less demand for them. Some day someone will open a dispensary in Concord, again, and have the fight they need to have with the city. The city will lose because there is precedent in California courts that prohibit banning them as they are legal per state law.

It’s a plant folks. It’s been used medicinally for thousands of years. and yes, it’s used recreationally too. Big deal. It’s still safer than many legal drugs or alcohol. The war on drugs has failed. the Fed needs to legalize it, allow for it to be taxed and regulated by each state and use those billions in tax revenue (and billions in savings for court/prison costs) and fight real crime. go after meth labs, go after illegal traffickers and other crimes – it a friggin’ NO BRAINER.

And don’t give me the bulls**t about kids using it. If they want it – they can find it and there are plenty of things they can get into trouble with.. If you have an open and honest relationship with your kids about everything, you will be able to guide them to usually make the right choices.

138 AnonyMrs. October 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Here’s what I don’t get. Why is this so controversial? Marihuana is a drug like any other drug. Why can’t drug companies bottle it and send it to the pharmacies so people who are prescribed it can go get it legitimately instead of having all if these creepy backwoods dispensaries?

On the other hand, I would not want to live next to someone who had a house or backyard full of drugs, prescription or otherwise.

139 Princess21 October 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM

@Shiloh..

seems like you need a hit…. :-)

140 Brian Griffin October 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM

@Jim
“I have trouble believing it’s all going to the dispenceries”
Really? Do you think some of it’s being sold before they sell it?

141 TinFoiler October 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM

#139, YOU CANNOT PATENT A PLANT. It comes from nature – anyone can grow it = How can the Mega-Billion dollars pharmaceutical Giants make money if they can’t get the patent on it?
Time proves that I have been right all along with my “conspiratorial” views – Now that it is affecting more people maybe they’ll open their eyes. Big Corporations control the media and they spin or demonize whatever is a threat to their $$$ – Because that’s what it is all about $$$$
How many people die from Chemotherapy? How many people die from THC?
The answer should speak volumes.

142 @tintoiler October 9, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Wrong, there are roses that are patented.

143 Shuley October 9, 2012 at 11:42 AM

@ tinfoiler

Yes, you can patent plants. Most strains of marijuana are genetically bred. Monsanto owns patents (and enforces them ) on all of their seeds.

144 TinFoiler October 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

PS – I’m not talking about GMO. GMO’s are a Huge problem and have Negative effects on your health, Stay away from GMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3HxJrsskCY&feature=channel&list=UL
I repeat, You cannot go out to some random field, Pick a plant and patent it as if you are the creator of it.
No look up what I posted about “How can the Mega-Billion dollars pharmaceutical Giants make money if they can’t get the patent on it?”

145 RanchgirlCA October 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM

If I ever find myself with a potentially terminal illness, and a little pot makes me feel better, I hope to avoid a great number of you folks. It made a big difference in the quality of a dear friends life, before the cancer took her from us. Medical Marijuana isn’t a bad thing, it’s those faking it to get some that is bad. If you are ill and choose to suffer when this could help you feel better, well, good for you. I’ll take feeling better anyday of the week.

146 Mad Mom October 9, 2012 at 7:05 PM

@ TinFoiler You are right on the money. (Pardon the pun)

You can’t patent THC.so the big corporations have no way of making all the money! That is the big sticking point.
The synthetics, even though they are mostly a derivative of pot, are not as effective as the natural substance.

147 I know where this house is... October 9, 2012 at 8:50 PM

I smell it every time im walking my dog on the canal trail…I doubt its on olivera, just because the reporter did his live shot on a particular street, it doesn’t mean that’s where the pot house is…

148 Antler October 9, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Evelyn, you made a very complete and rational presentation to the Concord City Council tonight. I am glad they plan to have staff research code for the legalities of business in residential areas. It was responsible and brave of you to come forward.

149 Travis Bickle October 9, 2012 at 10:05 PM

@Oh Wow:

Did you mean Michael Phelps? Have another hit and go back to your Playstation.

150 Evelyn October 9, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Antler@148 Thank You so much, that really means a lot to me.

151 I'm The Urban Spaceman October 9, 2012 at 11:22 PM

It’ll probably be harvested and gone in the next few weeks as it’s budding season.

152 Antler October 10, 2012 at 7:01 AM

Evelyn ~ ~ ~ :-)

153 Cruella October 10, 2012 at 9:42 AM

I have witnessed deaths, abuse and relationship problems resulting from alcohol abuse. While I do believe that marijuana abuse can lead to a lack of productivity, one cannot possibly smoke enough to cause their own death. You don’t generally hear about people taking a few puffs and physically abusing their family or friends.

I say legalize it, tax it and get rid of the black market. Personally, I’d prefer that our LEOs focus on getting rid of meth. Meth turns regular people into scary, sociopathic, zombies.

154 Shuley October 10, 2012 at 11:55 AM

@ tinfoiler – 99% of marijuana sold in clubs or elsewhere are GMOs. That’s the point. These plants are bred and cross-bred for their therapeutic effects.

155 Tom Hilton October 10, 2012 at 12:08 PM

It really is not about the legality or the ethics or the rights, it is about the SMELL.
A neighbor has a reasonable expectation not to be inflicted with some one else’s smelly backyard plants or whatever.

It is as simple as that.

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