The Water Cooler: The Legal Marijuana Dealer in the City of Concord

October 8, 2012 12:00 pm · 154 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon!

Eric Rasmussen with KTVU recently did a story about a legal marijuana grow in a residential neighborhood in Concord.

Many residents are very upset this is happening in their neighborhood, but the City of Concord says it’s all 100% legal.

Watch the video by clicking on the photo above, then come back to Claycord.com and give us your opinion on whether or not you think marijuana grow operations should be operated out of residential neighborhood.

101 Let's blame Mexico October 8, 2012 at 6:45 PM

WIKI

One source of tensions in the western and southwestern states was the influx of Mexicans to America. Many Mexicans also smoked marijuana to relax after working in the fields.[16] Later in that decade negative tensions grew between the small farms and the large farms that used cheaper Mexican labor. Shortly afterwards the Great Depression came which increased tensions as jobs and resources became more scarce. Because of that, the passage of the initial laws is often described as a product of racism, yet use of hashish by near eastern immigrants were also cited, as well as the misuse of pharmaceutical hemp, and the laws conformed with other legislation that was being passed around the country.

102 Case in point: Tim Lincecum!!! October 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

How does a two time Cy Young winner lose his mojo and wind up out of rotation for a Major League Baseball team? Marijuana!!

Lincecum is a known pothead. And look at where that got him in a short time in his young career. Hitting bottom!!!

Pot ruins lives. Don’t believe the users and dealers who keep trying to convince us otherwise. They have purely selfish motives.

REPEAL MEDICAL MARIJUANA! If we had a chance to vote on it today, it would happen. Lets do it!!

103 Menegene October 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM

It shouldn’t be that much of a secret, on clip from channel 2 leaves were poking through the fence!

104 Dennis October 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Marijuana Poses More Health Risks
By Jessica Ryen Doyle

Published June 12, 2008

Marijuana potency increased last year to the highest level in more than 30 years, posing greater health risks to people who may view the drug as harmless, according to a report released Thursday by the White House.

The latest analysis from the University of Mississippi’s Potency Monitoring Project tracked the average amount of THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, in samples seized by law enforcement agencies from 1975 through 2007. It found that the average amount of THC reached 9.6 percent in 2007, compared with 8.75 percent the previous year.

The 9.6 percent level represents more than a doubling of marijuana potency since 1983, when it averaged just under 4 percent.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2008/06/12/marijuana-poses-health-risks/#ixzz220EPrTqB

105 Dennis October 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Experts are warning that the public dangerously underestimates the health risks linked to smoking cannabis.

The British Lung Foundation carried out a survey of 1,000 adults and found a third wrongly believed cannabis did not harm health.

And 88% incorrectly thought tobacco cigarettes were more harmful than cannabis ones – when the risk of lung cancer is actually 20 times higher.
A new report from the BLF says there are established scientific links between smoking cannabis and tuberculosis, acute bronchitis and lung cancer.

Cannabis has also been shown to increase chances of developing mental health problems such as schizophrenia.

Part of the reason for this, say the experts, is that people smoking cannabis take deeper puffs and hold them for longer than when smoking tobacco cigarettes.

This means that someone smoking a cannabis cigarette inhales four times as much tar as from a tobacco cigarette, and five times as much carbon monoxide, the BLF says.

However, each cannabis cigarette they smoke increases their chances of developing lung cancer by as much as an entire packet of 20 tobacco cigarettes, the BLF warned

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18283689

106 JACKIE October 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

BURN IT DOWN!

107 Joke October 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

1. If legal to grow at home, no one will pay taxes. That’s a fantasy.

2. The current medicinal marijuana system is a fraud.

3. Alchohol causes lots of problems. Why add to that ? No good reason exists.

4. Require an honest prescription the same as for narcotics and let legitimate use for marijuana become a reality in the medical profession.

5. To the rest of you pot heads and dealers- get a life.

108 funny man October 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

and? man extracted those poisons to use on each other. THC isn’t poisionous.
God created carbon, man invented gunpowder, God created molucules, man invented meth, God created atoms, man invented atomic bombs, etc, etc
I’m seeing a pattern here and it’s not with God’s natural creation, it’s with his flawed pet project, Man.
Maybe you should ask yourselves why you are afraid of an inanimate plant, no one is forcing you to smoke pot

109 Atticus Thraxx October 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Whoa, whoa, whoa bubba@100. Let’s not drag guns into this. I didn’t sign up for any of that shit.
I don’t care if pot is legal. I don’t care if gays want to marry. But I am sick and GD tired of hearing about both of them. Look, legalize it, let the friggin gays marry and let’s come up with a flat rate tax we all can live with, and LET’S MOVE THE F**K ON ALREADY!

110 Jeff October 8, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Shuley, dont get me wrong. I actually think legalization is an option to be discussed – but there are a lot of considerations other than “hey man (best gallagher voice) lets like legalize it”

I dont personally care to have anything to do with it, but i also dont hear a lot of talk about a) what limit is a dui with marijuana? B) how long are you intoxicated? C) who determines whether or not you can be fired for having a medicinal need, thus creating “intoxication” at work. There is no federal protection under ada that im aware of for pot users… Because its still illegal on a federal level.

Taxing it could be a great source of income, and if used properly, great. Im one who believes that if obama gets re-elected and continues to expand the federal government, they WILL come for that money.

My whole point was that before it is legalized, there are a slew of differences on a federal/state level that need to be addressed. Thats all….

As far as guns – thats a different topic. Its in the constitution, weed isnt.

111 mwo1859 October 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Weed has never killed anyone! Legalize it and get the tax money. By the way I have not smoked since 1990.

112 Bob H. October 8, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Sorry, but did not read the first 102 responses. Gasoline prices are sky rocketing( will come down so GOV. B.can get his tax passed) Health premiums will go out of sight with the Obama does not care bill. And you folks are worried about a couple of plants growing in a yard. When did being realistic leave our society .

113 CHECKTHISOUT October 8, 2012 at 8:54 PM
114 Freddie Spaghetti October 8, 2012 at 9:23 PM

ROLL ‘EM IF YA GOT ‘EM!!!

115 Always Right October 8, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Some posters supporting pot are claiming that Marijuana is harmeless. Most people know better. Smoking anything is dangerous, and unfiltered marijuana has in fact more carcinogens than cigarettes.

Consider this FACT before you suggest we need to liberalize laws to legalize pot:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090615095940.htm
“There have been many studies on the toxicity of tobacco smoke. It is known that tobacco smoke contains 4000 chemicals of which 60 are classed as carcinogens. Cannabis in contrast has not been so well studied. It is less combustible than tobacco and is often mixed with tobacco in use. Cannabis smoke contains 400 compounds including 60 cannabinoids. However, because of its lower combustibility it contains 50% more carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons including naphthalene, benzanthracene, and benzopyrene, than tobacco smoke.”

Let’s also not forget the long term mental damage that comes from regular pot use.

116 I'm The Urban Spaceman October 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Splitting hairs here…
Re Legalizing Drugs; I don’t think Meth would qualify for legalization as it’s a synthetic drug and not a natural product.
e.g. Pot, Magic Mushrooms yes, mescaline no…LSD & Ecstasy no

117 Shiloh October 8, 2012 at 10:19 PM

SO GLAD I AM NOT ADDICTED TO ANY SUBSTANCE. Those who are sound like FOOLS. Princess21, do you hate yourself?? High almost 100% of the time? You just can’t stand to live life sober? Well, that is a problem in my book. Hope you get yourself some help real soon.

118 Facts Here - Listen October 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Watch “The Union” http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007

There you will find more truth to the matter. Just watch 60 seconds. If you are not hooked after that, then you don’t really care about truth.

119 iamerica October 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Time to move your gardens Clayord the politically correct police are out. Lets be real it grows from the ground, requires sunlight and water. It’s not chemically processed like cigarettes or alcohol. It’s just a matter of regulation now. And one day it will pass. And hopefully the true harsh drugs that we intake daily without even knowing will be what’s illegal.

120 the Shi ite October 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Quit being WEAK and asking for a TAX. Ever heard of the Boston Tea Party?
Tea = Leaf = Natural. Marijuana = Leaf = Natural.
Why not just TAX bananas and all produce and Government can declare itself as God the Provider of all these things.
If you have to depend on a Health care system or Government to take care of you, you are in a sad state.

121 Subterfuge October 8, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Yes. Grow it, sell it, tax it, smoke it. And remember, it’s puff puff pass!

122 Seal October 8, 2012 at 11:14 PM

@Princess21
No matter how you put it–medically or non-medically, marijuana is a drug. Yes, it is grown in the great earth and it has excellent medicinal properties. But in California, unless you have a medical marijuana card it is an ILLEGAL DRUG.

123 anonares October 8, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Hey people. This is a simple buisness being run out of a house in a residentual neighborhood. I don’t F###ing care if they are selling umbrellas from their front porch. To have a business, remember that this person is growing an amount greater then is allowed for their personnel consumption and selling it ” a business” 2 things need to be obtained prior to this being allowed. 1) They need to register this business with the city. 2) The first thing the city requires of applicant, is that they own the property. 3) they heed to file a land use application that requires them to notify surrounding property owners of the intent to locate a business in a residentual neighborhood. Pay attention stoners! Nobody is trying to prevent you from getting cured of your ailments. Obey the laws of the localities where you live. If you don’t like the laws that have existed for decades, that people have spent their time “crafting” so we can all enjoy our homes, MOVE! By the way – any of the local enforcement people who are saying that this is OK, read the above. We will come for you next. Don’t do what you think is your job. Follow our laws.

124 John October 9, 2012 at 3:11 AM

You guys are ridicoulous, marijuana has proven benefits. It may not be for everyone, but I smoke daily and I’m perfectly healthy. How about you guys go crazy over banning fast food or cigerattes as it kills many people a year. I think indulging all that food is killing your soul and body at the same time. lol what a sad society marijuana is harmless open your eyes and stop listening to your government so much…Oh yeah marijuana also stops cancer cells from spreading. It’s bigger then marijuana that’s why the government cracks down on it. Legalizing marijuana will cause a huge blow on the drug prescription industry. Whether you want to accept the FACTS or not, the asprin, any pain killer, beer, microwave food, etc etc etc…in your house is worse then weed…..wait what am I saying how can it be worse? when there’s nothing wrong with it lol…one love open your eyes guys.

125 John October 9, 2012 at 3:14 AM

ummm TIM LINCECUM actually stopped smoking this season….yeah exactly look what he’s doing now….

126 Scoob October 9, 2012 at 6:36 AM

Marijuana is and should be allowed to be grown in residential gardens. Its time to end the war on drugs that has been a dismal failure. Prohibition does not work. The black market created by the war on drugs is responsible for most of the crime in our communities. The Federal law will be changed, its just a matter of time.

127 Scott October 9, 2012 at 6:58 AM

30 plants isnt a big deal and by making a stink about it like the neighbors did is what will attract people looking to thieve which happens all the time October, november is harvest season peak smell easy to find as it is without neighbors blowing whistles. if the cops come by and clear it back off its his buisness his backyard.

If you people would just get off the wagon of hating on a plant you might realize how unique it is. why not stop into oaksterdam university in oakland, take a look at a live small grow op, see how beautiful the plant is, the unique smells, some smell just like an orange tree, others skunky, literally every fragrance on this earth can be found in one strain or another of cannabis. it glistens in the light at peak ripeness. It is truly a wonder of nature, a gift from God, and you people want to hate on it basically just because youve been told to.

128 Koncord Kid October 9, 2012 at 7:17 AM

I will be attending tonites meeting and hope to get this thing overturned! This drug house has to go!

129 mad mom October 9, 2012 at 7:23 AM

I will never understand why people hate medical pot but are ok with legal morphine and methadone use. My neighbor has been on legal drugs for 20 years and it’s ruining her life! My husband won’t take the prescription drugs and uses med pot. He still lives an active life while my friend sleeps hers away! We are a mess when it comes to logical pain management!

130 Antler October 9, 2012 at 7:49 AM

#124 ~ ~ ~ Yep, glad someone finally got to the nitty-gritty of it.

Have had an education reading all these comments……..never smoked nor smelled marijuana, so I didn’t know it smells like skunk. In our yard, if you smell skunk it’s because the Great Horned Owls have scored another kill out in CNWS!

Would like to hear more about any increased expectation of gang drive-by shootings into these residential “grow yards”…..whether the substance is legal or not. Seems as though the “importers”…say from their own sources in Mexico or from what is called “The Golden Triangle” (Mendocino up to Humboldt over to Siskiyou/Trinity counties). We have personally seen plants irrigated with drip systems on BLM in Siskiyou County. hmmmmmm….didn’t smell like skunk, though…mayber overpowered by pine and fir scents???

131 Randome Task October 9, 2012 at 7:50 AM

ok look it is real simple sure john j is growing and selling ..because the market allows it as long as he is profiting he will grow and sell…..if the state legalized it and grew its own ….and sold it cheaper than any other could sell it the back yarders would go out of business …now the real money would come from the sales and tax and excise tax on all things related …lighters, papers, pipes, you get the drift all those things would be regulated and taxed ….sure john j could start makeing his own pipes ..etc but those would be illegal if not through the proper channels and yeah not any joe can just whip out glass in his or her back yard and not make attention for themselves …..used to be people made their own beer and booze to bypass the law …..some still do and yet no problems there and yes boozers make more problems and damage and abuse than any pothead just check the logs how many times has pothead one abused his pothead girl while smokeing or even got up for that matter lol. this is all for not because everyone here is claiming they know what to do …as not one knows how this will turn out it is all in fun and should be looked at that way …if you want to actually do anything …..register and vote that is how you make policy and change not by banging keys and throwing out terms and words to nobody who cares

132 Long time Reader October 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM

What’s wrong is right, what’s right is wrong. Hmmmm. Sounds like something is not the way it should be.

133 Judge Roy Bean October 9, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Go set up a commercial egg operation in your back yard and see what happens…The City has every legal right to control commercial operations in residential neighborhoods. The Weed is growing through his fence…anybody can pick what they need. .I would call that a public hazard…shut it down.
Who ever issued the permits must be a user, that also as so many adults & City planners seem to be in a perpetual fog.

134 Jeff Spicoli October 9, 2012 at 9:30 AM

I don’t see what the all the fuss is about… I’ve used pot heavily since the early 80’s and I turned out just fine. Aloha Mr. Hand!

135 Auntie Em October 9, 2012 at 9:44 AM

The Clovis City Council approved stricter rules Monday night for its 6-year-old medical marijuana ordinance, but rejected an outright ban on pot grows.

Mayor Jose Flores pushed for the ban — even for medical purposes — but the council majority backed off after City Attorney David Wolfe said it would be expensive to defend in court.

Wolfe said a complete ban also would hamper the Police Department’s efforts to control the cultivation of medical marijuana.

“There are hundreds of personal-use grows in the city,” Wolfe said in a staff report. “If [police] had to enforce a complete ban, they would likely be met with resistance and challenges at every step of the way.”

The updated ordinance, Wolfe told the council, will give police the authority to direct valid medical marijuana users to grow the crop inside their home where it can’t be seen or inside a locked structure on their property.

With Flores dissenting, the council voted 4-1 to enact the ordinance, which takes effect in 30 days. No one from the public spoke against it.

Since 1996, when California voters approved Proposition 215 to permit medical use of marijuana, cities and counties have struggled to enact ordinances governing medical marijuana that can withstand legal challenge.

Clovis already bans outdoor marijuana gardens, dispensaries and patient-to-patient sales.

On Sept. 10, the City Council moved to toughen its rules. Among the changes: growing of pot plants is restricted to a 32-square-foot indoor area that can’t be seen from the outside.

Since Sept. 10, Wolfe has researched whether an outright ban could be legally defended. His conclusion: no way.

According to Wolfe, four California cities — including Selma and Tracy — have banned medical marijuana. “Legal challenges have been threatened or are pending,” Wolfe said, but no California appellate court has addressed the issue.

He advised the council to wait until the California Supreme Court weighs in before tackling a ban.

The updated ordinance, Wolfe said, is a balance between a person’s medical needs and potential nuisances that arise from growing the plant.

Police Chief Janet Davis agreed. “This gives us a more effective tool,” Davis told the council, adding that police enforce the ordinance when they receive a complaint.

Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/10/08/3022545/clovis-rejects-pot-ban-tightens.html#storylink=cpy

136 O WOW October 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Yes Weed will turn you into a lazy pos that will accomplish nothing in life Just ask Ryan Phelps lol hahahaha

137 Shuley October 9, 2012 at 10:19 AM

@ case in point – Tim Lincecum

you think he JUST started smoking pot? He got where he is today having smoked most of the time. His downfall actually came after he quit. So, I guess the same goes for Michael Phelps, Shaun White, 50% of the NBA, the list is long..

@ anyone else who cares
I work within this industry. And NO, I am not a grower, dealer, I do not work directly with Marijuana at all actually (and I would not be ashamed if I did). I actually work within the activism/legal side. And most of the comments I see from the naysayers are based on their complete and utter ignorance of the structure, the legalities and attitudes of the business. Legalizing marijuana actually has DECREASED the access to kids. You can NOT find a doctor that would issue a recommendation to a kid and you can not find a legitimate dispensary that will sell to one. Many growers prefer to get legal and sell their crop (which will be tested for potency, genetics, pesticide or chemical traces, cannabanoids, thrichromes, etc etc) to dispensaries because it is guaranteed to be sold, the price is about the same and it is far less hassle. It is still easy to buy street weed in Concord, Antioch, etc because they have not allowed dispensaries. In areas where dispensaries are permitted, there are far less street dealers (and they wont card you will they) because there is far less demand for them. Some day someone will open a dispensary in Concord, again, and have the fight they need to have with the city. The city will lose because there is precedent in California courts that prohibit banning them as they are legal per state law.

It’s a plant folks. It’s been used medicinally for thousands of years. and yes, it’s used recreationally too. Big deal. It’s still safer than many legal drugs or alcohol. The war on drugs has failed. the Fed needs to legalize it, allow for it to be taxed and regulated by each state and use those billions in tax revenue (and billions in savings for court/prison costs) and fight real crime. go after meth labs, go after illegal traffickers and other crimes – it a friggin’ NO BRAINER.

And don’t give me the bulls**t about kids using it. If they want it – they can find it and there are plenty of things they can get into trouble with.. If you have an open and honest relationship with your kids about everything, you will be able to guide them to usually make the right choices.

138 AnonyMrs. October 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Here’s what I don’t get. Why is this so controversial? Marihuana is a drug like any other drug. Why can’t drug companies bottle it and send it to the pharmacies so people who are prescribed it can go get it legitimately instead of having all if these creepy backwoods dispensaries?

On the other hand, I would not want to live next to someone who had a house or backyard full of drugs, prescription or otherwise.

139 Princess21 October 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM

@Shiloh..

seems like you need a hit…. :-)

140 TinFoiler October 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM

#139, YOU CANNOT PATENT A PLANT. It comes from nature – anyone can grow it = How can the Mega-Billion dollars pharmaceutical Giants make money if they can’t get the patent on it?
Time proves that I have been right all along with my “conspiratorial” views – Now that it is affecting more people maybe they’ll open their eyes. Big Corporations control the media and they spin or demonize whatever is a threat to their $$$ – Because that’s what it is all about $$$$
How many people die from Chemotherapy? How many people die from THC?
The answer should speak volumes.

141 @tintoiler October 9, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Wrong, there are roses that are patented.

142 Shuley October 9, 2012 at 11:42 AM

@ tinfoiler

Yes, you can patent plants. Most strains of marijuana are genetically bred. Monsanto owns patents (and enforces them ) on all of their seeds.

143 TinFoiler October 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

PS – I’m not talking about GMO. GMO’s are a Huge problem and have Negative effects on your health, Stay away from GMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3HxJrsskCY&feature=channel&list=UL
I repeat, You cannot go out to some random field, Pick a plant and patent it as if you are the creator of it.
No look up what I posted about “How can the Mega-Billion dollars pharmaceutical Giants make money if they can’t get the patent on it?”

144 RanchgirlCA October 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM

If I ever find myself with a potentially terminal illness, and a little pot makes me feel better, I hope to avoid a great number of you folks. It made a big difference in the quality of a dear friends life, before the cancer took her from us. Medical Marijuana isn’t a bad thing, it’s those faking it to get some that is bad. If you are ill and choose to suffer when this could help you feel better, well, good for you. I’ll take feeling better anyday of the week.

145 Mad Mom October 9, 2012 at 7:05 PM

@ TinFoiler You are right on the money. (Pardon the pun)

You can’t patent THC.so the big corporations have no way of making all the money! That is the big sticking point.
The synthetics, even though they are mostly a derivative of pot, are not as effective as the natural substance.

146 I know where this house is... October 9, 2012 at 8:50 PM

I smell it every time im walking my dog on the canal trail…I doubt its on olivera, just because the reporter did his live shot on a particular street, it doesn’t mean that’s where the pot house is…

147 Antler October 9, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Evelyn, you made a very complete and rational presentation to the Concord City Council tonight. I am glad they plan to have staff research code for the legalities of business in residential areas. It was responsible and brave of you to come forward.

148 Travis Bickle October 9, 2012 at 10:05 PM

@Oh Wow:

Did you mean Michael Phelps? Have another hit and go back to your Playstation.

149 Evelyn October 9, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Antler@148 Thank You so much, that really means a lot to me.

150 I'm The Urban Spaceman October 9, 2012 at 11:22 PM

It’ll probably be harvested and gone in the next few weeks as it’s budding season.

151 Antler October 10, 2012 at 7:01 AM

Evelyn ~ ~ ~ :-)

152 Cruella October 10, 2012 at 9:42 AM

I have witnessed deaths, abuse and relationship problems resulting from alcohol abuse. While I do believe that marijuana abuse can lead to a lack of productivity, one cannot possibly smoke enough to cause their own death. You don’t generally hear about people taking a few puffs and physically abusing their family or friends.

I say legalize it, tax it and get rid of the black market. Personally, I’d prefer that our LEOs focus on getting rid of meth. Meth turns regular people into scary, sociopathic, zombies.

153 Shuley October 10, 2012 at 11:55 AM

@ tinfoiler – 99% of marijuana sold in clubs or elsewhere are GMOs. That’s the point. These plants are bred and cross-bred for their therapeutic effects.

154 Tom Hilton October 10, 2012 at 12:08 PM

It really is not about the legality or the ethics or the rights, it is about the SMELL.
A neighbor has a reasonable expectation not to be inflicted with some one else’s smelly backyard plants or whatever.

It is as simple as that.

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