California Governor Jerry Brown Gives Drivers Licenses to Illegal Immigrants

October 1, 2012 10:00 am · 128 comments

If you’re one of the 400,000 young illegal immigrants in California, then now’s your chance to get a California drivers license.

Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill on Sunday night which lets young people qualify for licenses if they are accepted by a federal program giving work permits to immigrants who came to the United States before they were 16 and are now 30 years old or younger, according to Sacramento radio station KFBK.

“Gov. Brown believes the federal government should pursue comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship,” Brown spokesman Gil Duran was quoted by the Los Angeles Times as saying. “President Obama has recognized the unique status of these students, and making them eligible to apply for driver’s licenses is an obvious next step.”

Opponents argued California should be careful handing out drivers licenses because they are used as identification for many other purposes, including entering airline terminals, The Sacramento Bee reported.

“It is a victory for those who were brought here through no choice of their own, played by the rules, and are only asking to be included in and contribute to American society,” said the bill’s creator, Assemblyman Gil Cedillo.

101 Dennis October 1, 2012 at 7:24 PM

children of illegals from Mexico born or brought here are legally citizens of Mexico. Send them and their parents back to the country where all are citizens.

102 Dennis October 1, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Drivers Licenses are clearly marked to idenify non-adults.
How about issuing DL numbers with a distinct set of numbers (like X######) and huge red holographic letters across the license saying NON CITIZEN?
Oh wait, that would interfere with the Dems use of them for voter fraud.

103 Dennis October 1, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I’m amazed at the proliferation of aztlan BS as “fact” in the history of CA.
First, Mexico gained independence from Spain, and so did CA, which was a colony of Spain, just like Mexico.
Second, Mexico attempted to exploit CA as a colony, by introducing the Mission system, which managed to fail spectacularly, and in the process reducing the Native American population of CA from about 300k to less than 30k people. Mission slaves didn’t do well.
Mexico, by the 1830s, “granted”/sold the land in CA to individuals, many of them non-Mexican. The Mexican land grants were also spit by their owners and sold to non-Mexicans during that period.
Yes, Mexico had a war with the USA, but CA was not “stolen” or “siezed by war” from Mexico; control was ceded to the US for money, desperately needed by the governments of Mexico during that era.
Which Mexico do you think had a legitimate claim on CA? There were over 3 dozen coups and revolutions in Mexico, the average lasting about 9 months.
When CA applied for statehood (yay Gold Rush!), the landowners in CA – both Mexican and American – V.O.T.E.D. to join the USA as a State.
Get that? the residents voted, it wasn’t forced on them at the point of a sword.
Yet the aztlan movement continues to claim that CA is still the property of (what is now) Mexico.
go figure.

104 Sgt. Schultz October 1, 2012 at 7:52 PM

@Atticus Thraxx. Always nice to know your stance on the issue. You’re what was known, in German occupied Poland, as a lampshade.

105 JWB October 1, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Oh Dennis #103 once again commenting without knowledge, but hey that BS is your trademark. If you actually would look at your CA drivers license you would notice that it is marked with the following statement:

“This license is issued as a license to drive a motor vehicle, it does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefit.”

It also has nothing to do with citizenship, legal immigrants, resident and non resident aliens, have always been issued a legal drivers license. As a matter of fact the law actually requires that you get a CA drivers license if you are a temporary worker or green card holder.

But of course Dennis is yapping as if he would know …. nothing new here.

106 Nonymous October 1, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Lets have the countries where illegal inmigrants come from provide their citizens with a good education system, healthcare system and jobs. By giving illegal inmigrants a free pass the government of this country is telling the governments/countries where illegal inmigrants come from: “Don’t work hard to take care of your own citizens, (our government and) the legal residents and citizens of the old good U.S of A will do it for you”

107 Dennis October 1, 2012 at 8:01 PM

@Reality Check

lemme guess: you are a product of the infamous “public school education”.

“If you are not 100% Native American, you are descended from immigrants. Programs like this allowed you to be here too! And by the way, the native people of much of this state are Mexicans! White people won it in a war.”

First, the Native Americans were immigrants too. Try to focus: there is a difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration.
When the USA was created (call it 1786, with the Constitution), citizenship – and the vote – was parcelled out to landowners. By a special act of congress, native americans living in sovereign reservations were included, and – also by acts of Congress – freed slaves after the Civil War in the South (Blacks already had citizenship and the right to vote in the north), and even women were included (by Amendment in the 1920s) to that group.
There has never been a RIGHT to Citizenship by birth; all persons who become citizens must proclaim no fealty or loyalty to any other government or nation as a condition to citizenship here.
That means that other groups, such as the families of foreign diplomats stationed here, do NOT aoutomatically become citizens of the USA by virtue of being born here.
That exclusion applies to all groups not specified by those special acts of Congress and the Constitution, including births by women in the USA illegally.
PS as with persons born to US citizens abroad, any child born to – for example – a Mexican woman, here or at home, is a Mexican citizen. So instead of claiming that illegal parents can’t be deported because it would mean deporting a citizen child, it should be noted that the entire family is being deported to a country where they all have citizenship (ie. Mexico).

108 Dennis October 1, 2012 at 8:13 PM


you do understand that your GFs problems are due partly to the Mexican immigrant mess? Mexico has more visas allocated than ALL other countries combined. No wonder they have problems, standing way at the back of the line of Mexicans coming here legally.

But you touched on an additional factor: criminals in Mexico can’t apply for a visa, so they flee north across the border; even if apprehended, Obama won’t send them home, because Mexico refuses to take them back.

And if you have a disease, such as TB or Dengue Fever, or whatever, you can’t pass the health exam required for a visa, so you sneak into the US illegally, and of course wind up working at a fast food drive-thru, where infecting others is your top priority.

I used to cut-and-paste news items about the guy with drug resistant TB that has been deported 18 times, but keeps sneaking back in, or the criminals who – after 5 prison terms here – is put back on the street (here) because the Obama administration refused to force his deportation back to Mexico, which doesn’t want him. He’s our problem now.

Legal visas and immigrants are not the problem (except Mexico’s special allotments make the lines very long for other countries), it is the ILLEGAL immigrant that is causing the problems.

PS anyone deported who returns illegally is committing a FELONY. Most of those guys standing around on Monument, unless its their first time here, are actually wanted FELONS for having re-entered the country.

But hey, why worry? 10% of those guys will find work before they starve, and the other 90% will join gangs (like MS-13) who will take care of them while they are out of prison :)

109 Anon October 1, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Do you lib dip shi#s really think that now that illegal Mexicans are now going to flock to get insurance? “Oh boy now I can pay money to do what I already do.” “I want to be held responsible.” My wife spent a few years in Mexico the first thing anyone does after a car accident is run, even the victim. Mexican police arrest anyone who stays long enough for them to show up.

@Dee, so many people have called jorge an idiot, he hears it in his sleep.

110 Emfazeema Jackson October 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM

If the laws don’t apply to everybody, then they don’t apply to anybody. Go ahead & break the law.

111 Atticus Thraxx October 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM

At ease Sgt. I thought your opinion was important, I’d issue you one.

112 ALTO October 1, 2012 at 8:57 PM

What’s next…having road signs printed in Spanish!?! If you can’t speak english how are you going to be able to read it.

113 Sgt. Schultz October 1, 2012 at 9:00 PM

You mean “IF” you thought…..
Now back to your TV dinner, it’s getting cold.

114 @110 October 1, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Good point Anon! Most of the people here in favor of this have probably never been to Mexico and do not understand how it works there.

115 mama cowell October 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM

I think its great.

however, my neighbor is going to go certified 5150 ape~shit over this.

me thinks, it will be fun to watch.


116 s.... October 1, 2012 at 10:20 PM


117 Tarmagen October 1, 2012 at 10:39 PM

I think I’d like to move to the moon. It’s the one place where an American flag proudly waves and nobody is b**ching about it. –Not even aliens (illegal or ET).

118 cb October 1, 2012 at 11:05 PM

“You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’s initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them what they could and should be doing for themselves.” Abraham Lincoln

119 Safety Second October 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM

To all you ingnorant leftist, I pray you live long enough to see your Children and great grandchildren as they get displaced by open border policys -Their future is grim thanks to your utopian politicians

120 dontmatter October 2, 2012 at 1:07 AM

All ya can go to hell if you got anything bad to say about this bill that just passed. Just because you guys are citizens and dont want to work and want to be lazy you guys get mad at the illegals because they pick up you guys slack? Illegales are the ones that are still making this country run. White people and everbody who disagrees with this bill are people that are lazy an aint worth nothing in life if you feel threating about illegales getting their license.

121 Sparkerdoo October 2, 2012 at 3:49 AM

My brother’s neighbor was bringing her mom up from Mexico. I was a Notary Public at the time. She and her husband signed an ‘Affidavit of Support’ basically saying they will support her during her time here.
After 6 years, I come to find out that her mom lives in her own and collects Social Security, while she also receives FREE benefits!
This pissed me off so bad, because this woman has NEVER EVER worked a day in her time in the UNITED STATES!!!
Yet when I was injured in the car accident (see above #66) caused by an illegal, non English, No License and No insurance, it took me 3.5 years and 3 denials to receive my disability (which I would rather be working than this disability life); yet this woman got her first check within a month of her applying!
My Question:
If I move to Mexico, Russia or some other foreign country… And i am NOT a Legal citizen, Will I be given a drivers License so I can get to work and school? Also, will I get Free medical Insurance, and money to live off JUST because I’m Illegal and need to go to school to better myself? Oh and when I go to any Government Building for a document, will there be an assortment of them in ALL the different languages?
IT’s CRAP, and what the ILLEGAL a-hole did to me in 1995 has and will continue to affect me and my family for the rest
Of my life!!!!! It’s a CRIME!

122 Sparkerdoo October 2, 2012 at 4:01 AM

Oh and DONTMATTER #121
You just wait until one of these ILLEGALS hits you and permanently disables you…with NO LICENSE, NO INSURANCE, NO ENGLISH, and NEVER paid one cent to me…. Why? Because I can only be awarded money from him when he has a LEGAL job!! OH OH AND OH YEA,
17 years Dontmatter, in 17 years NOT ONE DIME.
I bet he’s working…. ILLEGALLY!!!!!

123 Dangerous October 2, 2012 at 4:27 AM

Once again leave it to California, how pathetic!

124 Cruella October 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM

Interesting, If you enter the Mexico without an FMT, then you will be subject to a large fine and deportation.

125 Anon October 2, 2012 at 8:01 AM


This will be above your head, but there is no wind on the moon so nothing waves. However as I suspect you are yet another example of the revisionistic liberal education, I am not surprised that you are unaware of that fact. As well why have facts ever stopped idiots like you, like the difference between illegal and legal immigrants.

126 Tim Nourie October 2, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Send ALL illegals back to their country of origin now, and their illegal parents, grandparents, etc.

There are 13,000,000 unemployed Citizens in the US, and there are 12,000,000 employed illegals. Do the math. Get rid of them and you have 12 million more jobs to give back to the to citizens.

There should be NO path to citizenship for anyone here illegally. They must do it the right way, go home, and do the paperwork, pay the fees, etc., then: Welcome!! But no welcome until then. Illegals are NOT welcome here.

127 Anon October 2, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Read today’s paper, illegal Mexicans are not impressed with the offer, they want more.

128 Mother Hubbard October 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

@ Atticus and don’t forget to feed your mangy cats FFS!

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