The Water Cooler: Secrets at the Concord Naval Weapons Station

August 22, 2012 12:00 pm · 92 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon!

Today’s question….

Do you think anything secretive still goes on at the Concord Naval Weapons Station?

Talk about it….

1 Of course August 22, 2012 at 12:10 PM

It is a military operation, of course there are secrets! Someone has been out there the past few days. They look like they might be doing survey work. Who knows. For all I know they could be figuring out how they are going o get the spaceships out of there.

2 Rob August 22, 2012 at 12:22 PM

I heard that there is a tunnel that goes all the way from the Concord NWS to Area 51 ;)

3 victory2012 August 22, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Yes, because I hear the trains running late some nights behind my house.

4 anti goverment August 22, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Of course THE MAN is holding secrets at the naval weapon station

5 JET August 22, 2012 at 12:29 PM

I remember my Dad told me that he remembers back in the late 70’s or early 80’s, they closed down Bailey Rd through the NWS for a long time (months). They weren’t doing road work or anything and it was very suspicious.

When they finally reopened the road, my Dad noticed a new patch of eucalyptus trees off to the left side of Bailey Rd (going from Concord to Pittsburg direction) and he thinks they did something in that spot? Who knows.

I have also heard from others that there are multiple tunnels under the hills as well as ‘control rooms/offices’ built inside of the hills. Would be cool to find out and tour it someday but prob will never happen. Who knows, maybe Seeno hides out from the IRS down there? ;)

6 anon August 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM

There just looking for all the bombs they buried.

7 I know August 22, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Come on people, do you really think they’re going to empty all those Bunkers? NOT! They been full sense day one. Can’t leave us empty handed or can they? Have ammo will travel, right.

8 Monty Abballo August 22, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Obama’s O’Brewery

9 Mac August 22, 2012 at 12:48 PM

I use to go on the base to fix all of their flat tires.
Back when I owned my Tire Service.
They told me some strange stories about that place thru the years.

I just wonder what will be unearthed when they start to put things on this land.
Hate to be running the bulldozer anywhere near the landing strip area.

Good luck to whoever does….

10 Randome Task August 22, 2012 at 1:05 PM

there are tunnels under all the buildings as well that all tie into a underground highway that goes into and under the hills there ….very awesome indeed …..

11 JET August 22, 2012 at 1:13 PM

I searched online for the last hour on google to find any information about the underground tunnels but found hardly anything? Is that classified/secret info? Any tips on where I can find more info on where the tunnels are? I’m really intrigued by this. thanks!

12 Bishop Estates August 22, 2012 at 1:18 PM

It would be very cool to get a tour someday…

13 livininconocrd August 22, 2012 at 1:24 PM

CONSPIRACY THEORISTS !!! In re Randome Task… so they have secret highways that go into and under the hills… and where do they come out? ha ha ha. Yeah, there are buildings underground, they kept lots of ammo and probably nukes under the hills for some time. They have all been moved out. The Marines no longer guard it and it was turned over the the Army some time back … just waiting for the Concord Mayor.. and council people to get their hands greased with some first class money to start building on it. And BTW – the military usually polices their own area.

14 ANON August 22, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Tunnels go all the way to Oakland to the Old Army base. They could move ordinance underground that way. Nuclear weapons loaded directly on ships and shipped to bases all over the world. mmmmmmm

15 viton August 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM

No, nothing secret because if there were, the New York Times would have published an article about it already.

16 judaspriest August 22, 2012 at 1:31 PM

i remember back in 71 when my cousins wife mother’s uncle’s grandson’s brother in law was back from nam and stationed there for a stint we used to gather at his house in clyde he would tell us stories about how he would have to pull 24 hour guard duty there and they would never tell him what it was he was guarding until one night his platoon commander told him that he was guarding ethel merman.

17 Happy One August 22, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Of course. It’s the military. They keep lots of stuff secret.

18 Cowellian August 22, 2012 at 1:36 PM

The best-kept secret is the wildlife on the waterfront.

Many years ago, we did a Cub Scout day camp there. We had access to their pool and even set up an archery range. The Webelos got to camp out on Friday night. It was really cool.

During the week, we got two tours. One was through the fire station and the non-classified storage areas, but the other was a tour of the waterfront. It is amazing how many rare plants and critters make their home on the Weapon Station.

19 Dutch August 22, 2012 at 1:45 PM

It’s amusing to read all of these comments. I’m glad to see that, with all of our electronic toys, the imagination is dead.

20 JC August 22, 2012 at 1:48 PM

I am sure they are hiding an Olive Garden under the hills!

21 Kirkwood August 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM

If there were any “secret” facilities out there in the inland area we’ll eventually find out because it will all become private land.

When the Air Force decommissioned the Titan missle silos between Marysville and Chico, all the infrastructure was left in place and everything reverted to the original landowners. Most are in place to this day but access is nearly impossible. I few have broken in and posted their adventures on the Internet.
I was stationed at Beale AFB where the missles were serviced. That was the early 60’s.

22 Native August 22, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Spent fuel rods. Wonder how much uranium is stored here.

23 Buddy August 22, 2012 at 2:13 PM

I did see a few guys with vans on the inside of the fence a few days ago. It was close to the corner of Farm Bureau and E Olivera. Now sure what they were looking for but had clip boards and definately were looking for something on the ground.
It would be really cool to take a tour of that place. Maybe one day.

24 There is a secret underground airport at NWS August 22, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I thought everybody knew that….

25 Rum Runner August 22, 2012 at 2:18 PM

I know they have to be hiding an Olive Garden in there somewhere. I often smell unlimited breadsticks and tossed salad when driving past. Mix that with the Neverending Pasta bowl and a carafe of Lambrusco and it should be Top Secret!!!

26 Really? August 22, 2012 at 2:20 PM

This question serves only to bring out the kooks.

In reality though, I see on full moons there are a group of people naked except for the goats heads and pelts dancing around fires there. I’d say it’s secret except there is a large bonfire and drums and yelling.

27 Rum Runner August 22, 2012 at 2:22 PM

What would JC do??

Order the Seafood Fettuccini and house chablis… of course!!

(JC #16)

28 Julio-Antioch August 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM

What an imagination most of you have.

29 Mr. John August 22, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Secrets? Of course. Heck, there are secrets in my game room. However, secret tunnels, nukes, spent nuclear materials, etc… are fantasies of the bored. A lot of people worked on that base over the decades and any real important secret would have been leaked a long time ago. Secrets known by hundreds of people leak – especially when those people are often in their late teens or early twenties. The only secrets that stay secrets are things too boring to tell. Bunkers, munitions, train stations – yep. Aliens and government conspiracies – nope.

You can either believe that as a whole our government is a bumbling morass of people working at cross purposes that can’t tell what each other is doing or you can believe they’re hyper organized and loyal to a level impossible in real business where people get paid huge sums to be loyal and quiet. It can’t be both.

30 dilligafman August 22, 2012 at 2:48 PM

inland is d.o.a.- tidal is a different story !

31 Screwy Louie August 22, 2012 at 3:03 PM

They liquidated most of the Inventory over Iraq in ’93.
Just bunkers & tunnels with a few “hot spots” here and there.

To get a real feel for whats in there, visit the Nike Missle Site at the Marin Headlands. It’s run by the U.S. Park service and is open for tours once a month. It still has all the equipment and they dropped the doors and put a missle in launch position the day I was there.
One of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.

32 the MARTIAN August 22, 2012 at 3:05 PM

lol does the mayor come up with these questions????

33 Tia August 22, 2012 at 3:15 PM

@Buddy~~i saw someone in the field, across from the softball park on Olivera & they had a port a potty there & there was one guy & it looked like he was looking for something…
I work down by the base & I see a lot of trucks going in & out… :~)

34 nytemuvr August 22, 2012 at 3:16 PM

My Grand Uncle built his first house on Sanford St. in what is now Sun Terrace and he told my family for years back in the mid 40s to the early 50s that trucks full of dirt were hauled out of there, up Port Chicago Hwy. 24/7. There used to be a small guard station on Bailey Rd. at the train tracks. Bailey Rd. was shut down for a few years back in the 60s. and even after they opened it back up for public use there was always a guard in that shack. I lived in Clyde for a number of years next to the fence of CNWS and there was a lot of strange things go on there as late as the 90s. Same with the Ghost Fleet, if you get too close to the ships, you’ll get a “visit” from military personnel still. Used to hear all kinds of weird noises when fishing at night by the ships with people coming and going all night, that was in the 80s. We got shooed away a few times sturgeon fishing by the ships.

35 nytemuvr August 22, 2012 at 3:21 PM

@judaspriest #16
” his platoon commander told him that he was guarding ethel merman.”

I’ve heard that same story before….weird.

36 nytemuvr August 22, 2012 at 3:34 PM

@Kirkwood #21
If you Goggle Earth the Sutter Buttes you can still see the silo sites. They also opened the Marin missle site a couple of years ago and can tour it on the weekends or once a month I believe. They have the doors working after many years of donated help cleaning and refurbishing the machinery.

37 Rum Runner August 22, 2012 at 3:57 PM

@ Cowellian #18

I was a webelo just about the time Hasbro came out with weebles… so… our motto used to be:

“Webelo’s wobble but they don’t fall down”

38 anon August 22, 2012 at 3:57 PM

F.P. Lathrop Construction out of Emeryville, CA (maybe Benicia in these days) spent two years out there with heavy equipment building and revamping existing tunnels/bunkers etc. in the early 70’s someone from those crews may still be around to offer more insight….maybe.

39 lincolnlog August 22, 2012 at 4:05 PM

That’s where they keep the Black U.N. helicopters.
I think there is another stargate there too!

40 ANON August 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Bin Laden is buried in one of the bomb bunkers!

41 Red August 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM

I grew up in Clyde ( Moved out in the mid 90’s), my Dad was employed at the NWS for 40+ years as the Heavy Equipment Foreman. I often went to work with him & he showed me a lot of interesting things. The inland side is now completely deserted. Mainly being surveyed for the upcoming homes & parks to be built. The Tidal side is a different story.. Port Chicago Hiway is closed at the North end of Clyde. New tower cranes in place, many new railroad tracks installed, newer bunkers into the hills, most of the activity is ship to shore now. Google map Clyde & scan North..
My Dad was the Director of the train crew when Brian Wilson sat infront of the munitions train & had his legs cut off when the train ran him over..

42 RancherAtHeart August 22, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Most likely the workers that you have seen out there are doing environmental compliance. Having worked on demilitarized property purchases, one of the items that the government has to provide is full disclosure of all known hazards. To do this, they install various tools including monitoring wells, soil sample results, etc. I would venture to guess that they are still in the process of completing this along with surveys, mapping, etc.

43 Menegene August 22, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Clyde, the 90s, the red paint outline of a body on the railroad tracks….. Reminds me of protesting the protestors! :)

44 Catgirl August 22, 2012 at 4:45 PM

@Red: I grew up in Clyde too and remember the day Brian Wilson got run over! I was in middle school. My dad used to organize the counter-protests against those idiots. My grandmother has been living out here since the explosion in the 40’s. She said it blew out her kitchen window over her head as she was leaning over for something and the force knocked her down. That was the house right next to mine now. Now she lives across the alley from me. :)
I believe things are still getting shipped in and out. I live on the street parallel to Pt. Chicago and watch trucks, trains, military etc go back and forth all day long, even late at night. You can’t tell me nothing’s going on out here. If there was no threat of an explosion on the docks, they would’ve opened the North end back up ages ago. So there has to be something out there they want hush hush.

45 Shark August 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Too bad Concord can’t get the waterfront property too.Can you imagine a state of the art marina right there by seal island ?? FISH ON !!

46 Concordian August 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Sure, Elvis Presley is living there : )

47 Jojo Potato August 22, 2012 at 5:13 PM

My brother worked out there loading bombs onto ships during the V war. Lots of trains full of ammo that got unloaded there and put on ships. They had a bunch of safety training as you might expect. On the day in question a forklift of bombs tipped over and dropped them all onto the pier. The well trained employees all jumped into the water! I think he quit a few days after that.

48 Spunnoodle August 22, 2012 at 5:27 PM

I use to be in a band and we used to practice in a theater on base. One of our roadies was in the navy, and he set us up. I used to have a old VW bus and every time I showed up there for practice the guards would check under my bus with mirrors. Oh the good old days before 911.

49 Cowellian August 22, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Rum Runner, I may have used that phrase once or twice.

50 Coke Is It! August 22, 2012 at 5:35 PM

I heard that Pepsi had a contract to stock all the employee lunchrooms so if you ever saw a Coke Truck leaving the premises it was NOT full of soda. That’s how they shipped nukes around the country!

51 warbirds45 August 22, 2012 at 5:49 PM

# 14 is correct. The Livermore Lab is also connected.

52 P Hill Native August 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Wasent that land supposed to be turned over to the city of Concord at least 2 years ago? And of course there is some thing going on out there, if there Wasent then how come Home Land Security patrols that place like its the freakin white house? Come on people lets not be naive here!

53 Fritzhugh Ludlow August 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM

. First they closed the Elks Lodge on Willow Pass across from the station, then they removed the Tule Elks from the station, killing a few of them in the process…draw Your own conclusions!

54 Seal August 22, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Do you think they are getting ready to make the Concord Naval Station into usable land for the public? This seems to be the exact same thing they did to Treasure Island and the Alameda Naval Station.

When they shut down all of the bases years ago–they had to do something with the property. I know there are businesses and other commercial/residential facilities now at the Alameda Naval Station;

and didn’t the Mayor of San Francisco (Willie Brown) have one of his girlfriends live in one of the apartment complexes on Treasure Island at one time?

I don’t know–but this makes more sense to me.

55 Beacon August 22, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Probably a few secret pot gardens and meth labs, none of which are sponsored by our government.

56 Howard K Mullins III August 22, 2012 at 6:25 PM

There is still something going on out there. I would love to walk through all those bunkers. I’ll bet those hills are like honeycombs, caves and storage all the way down to the water table.

I would not be surprised that the soil is so contaminated that once the cleanup is done, that entire area will end up below sea level.

Guess Concord can have its own marina and houseboats and loading docs. That’ll give some folks some ocean view property, From about PCH and Arnold.

57 Mad Mom August 22, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Oh Mayor. You sure know how to keep the pot stirred :D

58 August 22, 2012 at 6:35 PM

I have no idea what you’re talking about, Mad Mom ;)

59 RichieNotRich August 22, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Conspiracy theorists unite! It definitely became a curiousity to me when I lived just a couple of blocks from one of its borders about 25 years ago. Actually drove up to one of the gates once and asked the guard on duty if they did tours – got a nice chuckle out of him (answer was “no”). Since it’s closing down, I still think it would be cool to go on a tour to see where all of the cool stuff USED to be. Who has some clout with the US Navy to get that happening before it all becomes thousands of homes that we don’t need?

60 Eric August 22, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Cowellian, i think i was at that same day camp with you… Do you remember touring the fire station and also one of the train locomotives? What troop number were you? I was 444

61 Dr. Jellyfinger August 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Howie, that is a cool idea. It could be like Discovery Bay. Maybe when the economy improves and home prices rise…………. who knows?

62 Eric August 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

P Hill Native, The Department of Homeland Security’s Federal Protective Service (FPS) is the police agency in charge of policing Federal property, buildings, and land, which doesn’t fall under any civil or state police jurisdictions. since it is not active and there are no more Military Police in the inland section, i wouldn’t be surprised if the FPS was patrolling there, most likely dealing with trespassers and such.

63 Sinn Feiner August 22, 2012 at 7:47 PM

The tidal area is called Military Ocean Terminal Concord and there’s only about 4 of them in the U.S. I think. It’s run by the Army. They do store weapons and ammo out there. The security is heavy out there run by the sheriff’s and federal police. I see activity out there at night on my bike rides every so often but for the most part it’s usually quiet.

64 Ancient Mariner August 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM

The biggest secret on a decommissioned military base is the toxic waste.
They’ll give it a seal of approval and turn it over to local government. Houses will be built and people will move in. Eventually someone will figure out that the soil is contaminated with something horrible and a show cleanup will take place. I wouldn’t want to live there.
Or how about those strange box-like apartments on Taylor Blvd? People living where Taylor Auto Wrecking used to be. Do they know that oil, gasoline, etc. were spilled on the ground for decades right where their children sleep? Some people are more sensitive than others – perhaps someone is constantly sick and doesn’t know why. If they knew that they were living over a brownfield, that might answer a lot of their health questions.

65 surflan August 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM

The Army took over when the Navy pulled out. The Army unloads and ships out munitions. That is why the name is different now. Saw it on Eye on the Bay on Channel 5.

66 Atticus Thraxx August 22, 2012 at 7:52 PM

You have to think the military moved anything really interesting out by now. But I bet there’s more than one shallow grave out there.
And don’t be giving me the stink-eye Pegasus, I mean theoretically :)

67 Pegasus August 22, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Atticus –
Mine eye hath no stinketh therein.
I’d bet the only thing buried in the theoretical shallow grave would be an old dead horse that that was too tough to eat and too scrawny to sell to the French. They love that stuff.
I prefer beef personally but then I don’t have a steak in this.

68 I forgot August 22, 2012 at 9:04 PM

I heard in 10 to 15 years that its going to be one of if not the biggest military operations in the US. I’ve seen an aircraft floating at night just off of concord blvd. in between bailey road and concord high. Stopped the car to look at it. Got out, it made no sound and was slowly moving away. It was a triangle shape and probably only a hundred feet in the air. When we lost sight of it we drove a little bit trying to see it again. But it was gone.

The location is perfect. Port Chicago right to the delta. Why do you think they are clearing out the old ships. Travis air force base seems far in car, but in an aircraft it’s minutes away.

Anything I hear or see from that place would not surprise me.

69 mika August 22, 2012 at 9:08 PM

As they taught us to say when I worked there–“We cannot confirm or deny” !

70 Hirohito August 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM

My guess is the joint is so radioactive it won’t be inhabitable for 50,000 years.

71 Cowellian August 22, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Eric, I think that was my favorite Day Camp location. We built catapults that year. Being in the Crossings, we were in Pack 445.

72 Pressthis August 22, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Heck stuff has been going on there for years, I have a close Friend who used to run the base. He has told me on several occasions there were nukes out there. Remember when the maniac laid down in front of the train out there? That was all about them moving nukes. We have lived very close to the base off Bailey road and have seen Bailey shut down by Sheriffs and Highway patrol in combined efforts on numerous occasions while hearing the trains running. You should have heard the trains running during desert storm, non stop 24/7. They have been running an awful lot lately, interesting though, they moved all the railroad cars that used to be stored off will pass and highway 4, so they must be bringing in specific railcars from external sources for this effort. Doesn’t seem to be much guard activity in the area anymore though.

73 Eric August 22, 2012 at 10:40 PM

It was the best. i earned so many belt loops and pins there. I was a Bear that year, but i do remember camping out one night with everyone, so i don’t think it was only webelos that camped that night. I remember one of the dads sneaking out that night and bringing us back Taco Bell.

74 Eric August 22, 2012 at 10:44 PM

444 met at St. Boniventure in the states by the way

75 benzo farke August 23, 2012 at 5:27 AM

Used to drive a tow truck. Yes tunnels and storage under it all. Jet fuel is still on Snake road in Mtz (thats why its closed). The missal silo at chabot in oakland is AWESOME.

76 Cowellian August 23, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Oh yeah, Troop 444 is definitely a powerhouse Troop. I took my Webelos to 444’s Webelos Weekend at Camp Berryessa back in the early 90s.

77 U.S. Air Force Ammo Troop August 23, 2012 at 8:55 AM

LOL, whole thread is absoulet comedy. You CONSPIRACY THEORISTS are nuts that place is empty and there are no crazy hidden tunnels to anywhere, it’s just a old port and a out of date bomb dump full of earth covered igloos (which is the proper name for those so called bunkers in the hills. I have done this job for the U.S. Air Force for the past 10 years working in places like that at every base I have been at. None of the igloos look like the ones which hold nuclear weapons. Security would be much higher if there where any thing worth a damn on that base. Futher more there is no conection between there and Travis AFB does not have fighters or bombers assigned to it so there would be no need to hide explosives there, plus they have there own bomb dump at Travis.

78 infinitelove5 August 23, 2012 at 8:59 AM

My husband works for the railroad and still sends units in and out of there quite often. They are loaded up and they receive deliveries. The crew, however, does not see what the commodity is. Its gotta be more than office supplies! ;)

79 Cowellian August 23, 2012 at 9:41 AM

There are a number of missile sites throughout the Bay Area, including a Nike base on Angel Island.

80 KAD August 23, 2012 at 10:31 AM

If any of you are really interested in what is on the base – both the inland and the tidal area, you can attend the Restoration Advisory Board (RAB) meetings. They are held quarterly the first Wednesday of the month at the Clyde Community Center. Here is the link to the WEB site. I am generally the only “public” attendee. I am always shocked that no one attends these meetings. Because I am a regular attendee, I was allowed to join one of the tours to see the bunkers and other sites that need to be cleaned up.

81 Antler August 23, 2012 at 10:46 AM

KAD, thank you so much for info!

82 Kirkwood August 23, 2012 at 10:47 AM

@Cowellian – I worked for M.B. Associates, located in an abandoned Nike missle site located at the end of Bollinger Canyon Rd in San Ramon. There are 3 underground service/launch pads, the elevators in 2 of them still worked when I was there. Think I’ll check Google Earth today to see what’s still there.

83 Cowellian August 23, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Kirkwood, I’ve been there. There is a Scout Troop that meets in what used to be base housing.

84 kraftyjewlz August 23, 2012 at 12:42 PM

I would like to know what they are doing down by the port chicago waterfront, I have lived in this area most of my life (Bay Point aka West Pittsburg) & use to travel on Port Chicago Hwy daily to go to & from school so I got to know that road pretty well, & when looking at the area by the waterfront & then up into to clyde area it is very obvious that there are new roads, rail road tracks as well as structures that were not there before port chicago hwy was closed to public access. im sure there are many others out there that can remember being able to drive from bay point (aka west pitt) to concord or even martinez with out getting on the freeway. in fact i learned how to drive down in that area where port chicago had a turn towards the water front then another turn that took you right by the martinez dump. well looking at google maps area views the amount of growth in that area is obvious and suspicious… seriously doubt we will ever find out whats really going on down there,

85 kraftyjewlz August 23, 2012 at 1:11 PM

i posted this last week so its funny that this subject came up :)

kraftyjewlz August 17, 2012 at 6:38 PM
There are vehicles inside the fence of the Naval Weapons Station near Olivera across from the batting cages at willowpass park, they appear to be looking for something, there is a crew of 5 or 6 people with back packs that are wandering around on foot inside that area, I also noticed that there were portable restrooms also in that area. I have noticed them there for the past 3 days, does anyone know whats going on or what they are looking for

86 nytemuvr August 23, 2012 at 1:19 PM

I remember that day as I lived out there, made me late to work. Joan Baez and Ed Asner used to go and protest there pretty often and that always drew a lot of people. Hard to imagine him letting them just run over him.

87 nytemuvr August 23, 2012 at 1:23 PM

@I forgot
My understanding is the ships are polluting the water as they rust and the paint they were painted with had lead in it. Some of them have been sold to India to scrap.

88 Kirkwood August 23, 2012 at 1:24 PM

@Cowellian – You might be thinking of a different site, I don’t remember any base housing nearby. This is at the very end of the canyon road where the hiking trail began and up a steep hillside on the right.

89 nytemuvr August 23, 2012 at 1:30 PM

@Ancient Mariner
They built houses over Taylors Wrecking yard?…that’s as bad as Seeno’s homes on top the old Antioch dump, or worse.

90 nytemuvr August 23, 2012 at 1:43 PM

There was a meth lab that blew up at the foot of the hills in Clyde in the late 80s, within a few feet of the fence, burnt a couple of old houses up.

Paco Taco must be a youngin’ as back in the 70s the Weapons stations was a hotbed of military activity.

That road when it was open was like a roller coaster ride, lots of fun on a bike doing 80mph you could get air over the dips on a Harley.

91 Kirkwood August 23, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Cowellian – I replied to your msg about base housing, then left to load Google Earth and confirm info about where the base was located. When I returned, my reply to was gone and I’m not sure it is out there in the ether or not. I’ll wait and see what happens. I worked there for 14 years before going to the City Of Concord in 1976.

92 Cowellian August 23, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Kirkwood, the Nike site that I’ve been to is on Holly Ct, off of Bollinger Canyon, about 3 and a half miles from Crow Canyon. Are we talking about the same place?

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