Suspicious Voter Registration Applications in Mailboxes throughout Claycord

June 21, 2012 9:46 am · 67 comments

Has anybody else received a voter registration application from Washington, DC?

Here’s a note from a Claycordian….

We just received a Voter Registration Application from LCV Education Fund, Washington, DC. This is a very formal looking form with our name and address filled in, stating that if we have moved since last voting and want to vote, you should update your voter registration.

This seemed a little fishy to me so I called the Contra Costa County Registrar and they said it was not from them. They had already received several inquiries and were trying to determine who had sent this form. I gave them the full address. Don’t know if this is a scam, but they are asking for a lot of personal info that I would not want to give to just anyone.

Anybody else out there get this in the mail?

Enough Already! June 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

And so the Obama Administrations efforts to steal the upcoming election throught voter fraud begin!

In Clayton, maybe June 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Recently, I was going through the mail, and one item was a voter registration form for my husband, and I thought it was strange because he is already a registered voter, so I just threw it away. It looked like the correspondence we usually get from the Registrar, with I think one line in green and one in red and the rest black or whatever…it seemed like the same font…it looked like official Registrar of Voter correspondence, not different. I didn’t think to look at the address on it, but it didn’t seem to be soliciting funds at all. This was in Clayton.

I have also received several official-looking ‘government surveys’ lately that say something like ‘official document’ or ‘official government business’ and they say official-sounding things like something like Official Congressional Survey or some such thing. I have scanned them, thinking that at the end they must be soliciting funds, but I didn’t figure it out whether or not they were really official. I think they were asking political questions/opinions, but I didn’t really read the questions. I was suspicious, and did not complete them or send them in.

I D Theft ? June 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Do these forms ask for personal info like a social security number?

iscoffy June 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM

The League of Conservation Voters is a legit operation. Since they focus on advocacy through the political process, this seems like something they might do, and they do have an Education Fund, but whether this registration notice is actually from them, I don’t know.

Karen June 21, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Enough already ENOUGH ALREADY. Jeeze…

TiredOfExcuses June 21, 2012 at 10:10 AM

This sounds like another one of those scams perpetrated by the liberal-left trying to eliminate voters who are smart enough to see the truth. I am tired of the insanity of people who think that Obama will save our country, and that those of us smart enough to see the truth are the ones trying to change our voting laws. Stop the Fraud, get rid of Obama, and let me keep my freedom. Any of those crazy young kids out there, you will see the fruits of your labor when America speaks Chinese.

@TiredOfExcuses June 21, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Well this should really make your day then.
Headline: “Sasha Obama Speaks Chinese with President Hu Jintao”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504744_162-20029202-10391703.html

Shuley June 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Still amazed by the ignorance shown on this board by some (like #1 and #6). This happens every election from BOTH sides. It is a non-profit registration drive from an environmental group. They canvass looking for voters that tend to represent their views and help them get registered. It’s not fraud and it is perfectly legal.

It took me all of 15 seconds to find this:
http://www.lcvef.org/civic_engagement/

In fact, if you knew anything, it has been conservatives from the RIGHT that have fought restrictions to this kind of campaigning. So, I guess you are okay with massive for-profit corporations stealing elections but not okay when non-profits hold registration drives. Where were you when Walden O’Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc., told Bush they were handing him the election? Were you up in arms against that?

Zoom-Zoom June 21, 2012 at 10:38 AM

ACORN!!!

@10 June 21, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Wow you make me speechless. Your ignorance is beyond comprehension. I hope you are not in the claycord area, I would not want you as a neighbor or in my town.

TiredOfExcuses June 21, 2012 at 10:46 AM

@Shuley

The only person who handed the election to President Bush was God, to protect Christianity from foreign attackers, since the liberal-left is working hard enough to take away our freedom and our God.

Also, Diebold has all their machines tested by a company they hire, and the hackers who have broken into machines and changed voting scores did so fraudulently to discredit Bush’s second election win.

iscoffy June 21, 2012 at 10:54 AM

The political paranoia on Claycord is really quite amazing, as is the ability to turn any topic into a political rant. Don’t mail the thing in if you don’t think it’s legit. Filling it out or not is not going to make you speak Chinese or give Obama satanic powers. Goodness.

Mr. John June 21, 2012 at 10:54 AM

On a related note: When it comes time to vote, ask yourself whether you should.

Some people vote just to vote – without understanding what (or who) they are voting to support. Many of the things (and people) on our ballots are very complex, but are being presented in misleading ways. A proposition to lower taxes may take more money out of your pocket. A liberal candidate on paper may have a fairly conservative history. A term limit may have more to do with increasing a politiican’s capability to collect bribes/donations than it does with reducing their length of service limits.

I thoroughly encourage people to do their homework and vote. However, I think the homework is a key step that should not be overlooked. You have the right to be able to vote, but the right comes with a responsibility to do it responsibly.

Shuley June 21, 2012 at 10:57 AM

@ Tired of Excuses

Wow, you really have a screw loose. Big Anders Breivik fan probably… Yeah, slavery wasn’t wrong because it was “common”. People voted for Obama because they felt guilty about slavery. It had nothing to do with his platform.

CCC Anon June 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Thanks, Shuley. It’s legit and nothing to worry about. Registering voters you think will likely vote your way is done by many groups, including both conservative and liberal-leaning groups, both Democrats and Republicans. Registering voters is also done by many civic-minded groups who are not trying to cherry-pick voters that lean any particular way. They do it because the right to vote is the cornerstone of our democracy. The League of Women Voters is a non-partisan civic group that has a long history of registering voters.

Just me June 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM

@tired of excuses somehow I got on the GOP telephone solicitation list, and believe me that’s the last place I want to be! I would rather have my hand cut off than be anyway connected to the GOP! Yet, everytime they call me and start to ask question and don’t like my answers they disconnect the call? So to me that means their surveys are quite biased, would you not agree?
I’m an intelligent just past middle aged woman and I’m perfectly aware of why I vote and who I vote for, so I don’t need you on here trying to tell me a bunch of BS. I will continue to support President Obama, and you and your hooded clan can go live in another country for the next 4 years, hows that!

steve weir June 21, 2012 at 11:23 AM

We do not sense that there is anything illegal going on. However, if you have received one of these pre-filled out voter registration forms, please give us a call and tell us what the letter/number sequence is under the signature box. We’ll look into this registration drive.

Please call: (925) 335-7806.

Steve Weir, County Clerk

The Real McCoy June 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Another attempt by the Left to disenfranchise voters and STEAL the election from the American people. Shameful. These people should be tried for TREASON, convicted, and hung from the Golden Gate Bridge to show any other would-be dictators what happens when you try to steal elections! Let’s take our country back!!!!

A - non June 21, 2012 at 11:36 AM

you peole are funny but who cares people want to win and they’ll do anything to get there..

BUT
@Shuley…I’m sure the right has fought these restrictions and yes there was some concern in the Bush election. I think you need to chill out on ur right bashing…Heres’ some tidbits…Why is the left pushing so hard now for complete trasparency in political adds…why do they care who the doners are? Is it because they are negating the OBAMA war chest…the largest in history…That law about outside groups creating political ads was passed with bi-partisan support and now that it looks like it may not benefit the left and NOW they want “full transparency”…ever ask yourself why? stop beating up on the right…both sides are crooked but you can’t beat up on one without seeing the same $hit on the left

CK June 21, 2012 at 11:41 AM

@ Tired of Excuses

You are scary wierd.

MO June 21, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I’ve gotten a similar mailing…2400 miles away.
The junk mail has become over the top…I hauled in about 10 official looking envelopes…yesterday.
Most need to be trash canned and a few had enough info on them, so they need to be shredded.

For some of you who need good advice…don’t fill out any form that comes in the mail, unless you can reach the sender by phone.
Don’t give any information on the phone to the caller…you ask who they are and where they are calling from. Then research their info and call them back if you find credible info.
Never click on a url in your email unless you are positive who it is. IE: To sign up for cash back or points on a Credit Card…don’t do it from the email…go to the website the same way you go when you pay your bill…they will have an option there for your ”rewards” if it’s legit.

We are going to be getting a lot of political garbage, and telemarketing is really getting over the top here in flyover country.

I have my land line and cell phone on the ”no call” list…I still get a call or
two.

No matter how you complain to your state AG…these jerks that bother you via mail, email or phone, seem to have some legal loophole they are jumping through…so YOU have to know when it’s legit and when it’s not.

Don’t answer the phone if you don’t know the number that is calling…they will call back if it’s important.

Delete the emails and shred the mail…

On the other hand…I have to register my corporation with the state every two years…the notice looked like advertising….I called the SOS and complained.

I buy my car tags online…the card that arrived was so strange…it did have my pin number on it…but it was hard to find….I’m sure they would have let my license lapse had I not caught it.

You’ve got to be sharp these days……
* I only post all of this because some of you seem to need the info…

TiredOfExcuses June 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM

The Real McCoy knows what is up. Obama, with his fraudulent birth records, and the lefts attempts to take elections through voter fraud are illegal. The GOP would NEVER stand for this, as the previous, at least 2, but more like 5 GOP presidential victories involved no fraud by the right. Then of course, the Lefty news media came in with accusations of voter fraud in Florida, when we all know that the illegals were the ones voting against Bush and committing fraud.

@Tired June 21, 2012 at 12:06 PM

The aliens are coming… Where is your tin hat?

@ Steve Weir June 21, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Populace,

Don’t let Steve Weir brush this off so easily. Last election I called his office to inquire why I had not received my mail-in ballot. The phone was busy for two days straight (literally you could never get anyone to answer, you were on hold for hours). Out of frustration I began pushing all the buttons on the keypad, guess what happened next.

Low an behold, I pressed the “Spanish” button, I was immediately connected to a person (albeit speaking Spanish) as soon as it became clear that I was an English speaking voter this individual became annoyed and tried to get me off the phone. I persevered and was eventually connected to a manager who told me, “Yes we give priority service to Spanish speakers”. I think this is a complete bastardization of our election process.

A - non June 21, 2012 at 12:35 PM

@ Just me…Really they disconnect the call…Maybe that would explain why the ONLY poll that has Obama with a significant lead is the Bloomberg poll…they say he’s up by 13 pts…you want to biased?

Anon Redux June 21, 2012 at 12:35 PM

@Shuley #8. What’s your point? Do you believe two wrongs make a right? (No pun intended). While it’s true that Republicans have tried to cheat in elections, it’s the Democrats who have raised the art of vote stealing to a new level.

Two links:

1. First, some background information about the LCVEF.

‘The Washington, D.C.-based Voter Participation Center (VPC) is using large mailing lists from commercial and nonprofit organizations to send voter registration forms to people they believe have been underrepresented in the political process.

The VPC has a variety of national partners including, the League of Conservation Voters Education Fund (LCVEF), Project Vote, US Action Education Fund and the NAACP,” the website said.

The VPC’s website states: “The mission of the VPC is to boost the civic engagement of unmarried women, people of color and 18-29 year olds – the three demographic groups who comprise the Rising American Electorate,” the VPC says.

However, noncitizens are also receiving the forms, which worries legal analysts and voter groups like Grassfire Nation that are campaigning for voter ID laws.

VPC Chief Operating Officer Gail Kitch said the potential for voter fraud and citizenship status is not the group’s concern.

“That’s not really the issue,” she said. “I couldn’t answer that question based on the level at which we’re involved. I mean, their citizenship is not something … we would not have any way of knowing that.”
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/campaign-solicits-foreigners-to-register-to-vote/

2. Second, here’s one of many stories about the conflict between Eric Holder and voter integrity efforts underway throughout the United States:

Judicial Watch sues Obama’s Justice Dept for records regarding South Carolina’s Voter ID Law.

The Obama Department of Justice (DOJ) has initiated a multi-pronged strategy to ensure the re-election of Barack Obama. First, add more voters onto the rolls who are likely to re-elect Obama, whether they are legally eligible or not. And, second, block any attempt by states to clean up its voter registration lists.

The Obama gang recently put the latter strategy into play in South Carolina after the state passed a Voter ID law.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/19/JW-Sues-Obama-Justice-Department-for-Records-Regarding-Decision-to-Block-South-Carolina-s-Voter-ID-Law

Connie Dobbs June 21, 2012 at 12:37 PM

#25, Weir’s is an elected office, and he’s been there since Reagan was President.

A - non June 21, 2012 at 12:37 PM

The GOP would love to have a poll where Obama is behind by 13 pts….if they were so biased that’s what you’d see…and I haven’t

Enough Already! June 21, 2012 at 12:46 PM

@Shuley

The GOP is not the one blocking the Voter Registration Clean-Up efforts being instituted in several states. . . No that would be the Holder JUST-US Department and we all know just ethical He and his boss are!

And while on the topic . . . What about the “New Black Panther’s” that were waving their BIG BAD CLUBS at voters – intimidating them! Oh Yeah that would be Holder again!

And A C O R N. . . need I say more!

Appears to me and A LOT OF OTHER AMERICANS that this adminisrtation and it’s JUST-US Department, Communtiy Organizers, backed by the BIG BAD UNIOIN THUGS will do anything, say anything, steal anything and register anyone (alive or dead, legal or illegal) to attempt to STEAL this election!

Fred P. June 21, 2012 at 12:53 PM

To Steve Weir…..

Posting #25 makes a very good statement that requires your review….. He states “I persevered and was eventually connected to a manager who told me, ‘Yes we give priority service to Spanish speakers’.”

Something is VERY VERY wrong here, and an explanation is expected! It sounds as though you’re understaffed on one “side” and overstaffed on the other.

Answers, please!

slagheap June 21, 2012 at 12:57 PM

stunning! the level of paranoia, ignorance, and just pure butt-stupid, displayed here is simply stunning. naturally i assumed the top post from ” enough already ” was pure sarcasm, but as i scrolled down i realized this person has serious mental problems, and a number of others are even worse, piling on with opinions even crazier. wow, do you people go out in public? do you shop, own a vehicle, hold a job? in god’s name HOW?

ClayDen June 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Easy fix: No representation without taxation. If you are not paying into the system, you don’t get to vote. This would work on the Federal level via the IRS verifying that you paid more in taxes than you received in benefits and other “goodies.” I doubt it would have any impact at the state and local level, as everyone pays at least sales tax. It’s a start though, and would eliminate the possibility of a socialist like Obama being elected. Maybe we could also get George Miller and all of the other socialist congress critters (i.e., the entire Bay Area delegation) un-elected.

ChampagneKitty June 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM

I have come to the conclusion that Tired of Excuses is completely nuts and is desperately in need of some medication.

steve weir June 21, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Geez, since when is asking for the facts brushing anything off?

If anything, this thread has gone ape. There is a simple question; is there anything wrong with the LCV mailing of voter registration forms to people? On the face of it, the answer is no. If, however, you’d like for me to check into who checked out the forms, then call or send me the facts

By-the-way, although we have a very small percentage (less than one percent) of our registered voters who ask to have their materials in Spanish, I am still required under federal law, to give them full access to my office. Not all of my clerks speak Spanish.

If you had a tough time getting thru to my office, I apologize, but pressing the Spanish button and then complaining because you connected with our Spanish line…

Shuley June 21, 2012 at 1:46 PM

@ Enough Already. I think I just called you a kook when that really was meant for “Tired of Excuses”.

@ Steve Weir
From their website http://www.lcvef.org/

“We recruit volunteers for phone banks and canvassing efforts, use direct mail contact, and where appropriate we enroll citizens as absentee ballot or vote-by-mail voters.” They aren’t being too sneaky about it, nor should they need to.
I guess #25 didn’t stop to think that maybe your English speaking operators were busier than your Spanish speaking ones..wow.

@ Clayden – Careful what you wish for. By a LARGE MARGIN the more conservative voting counties receive far more in benefits than others (Lompoc being #1). The counties that contribute FAR more per capita in taxes are extremely liberal (Marin being #1).

@ Steve Weir June 21, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Steve Weir @ 35,

I understand you are required to provide Spanish speaking clerks, but at the detriment of English speakers?

Why not have the “Spanish” speaker answering English calls when the Spanish speakers aren’t calling. Or maybe the truth is that you and your ilk would prefer to make sure spanish speakers go to the front of the line.

-A disturbed voter at Steve Weir’s preference to enable Spanish voters to vote over English ones.

Anon2you June 21, 2012 at 1:58 PM

@ Just Me – Free Hand Chopping in Concord this Weekend sponsered by the GOP…

Wow, the political rantings of Claycord are crazy…on both sides…”I would rather have my hand chopped off than be a memeber of the GOP”…You mean the Grand Old Party, YOU mean the party of Abe Lincoln? You mean the party that fought to free the slaves? The Party of Ronald Reagan, who signed into law the Civil Disabilites Act? That party…Well when you get your hand chopped off and are Disabled you will have Ronald Reagan and the Republicans to thank when employers have to treat you the same as everyone else.

Shuley June 21, 2012 at 2:11 PM

@ anon2you

the “civil disabilities Act”? What are you talking about?

Reagan VETOED the civil rights bill and congress overrode his veto.

Reagan was known to fight just about any legislation that supported women, minorities and those with disabilities. Where are you getting your information? Oh, lemme guess Limbaugh-Hannity-Beck.

Babs June 21, 2012 at 2:31 PM

@Steve, ignore these idiots…you and your staff are doing a great job…I have called a couple of times for info and had extremely nice people answer my questions. thank you.

slagheap June 21, 2012 at 3:00 PM

YO! the party who brought this to the mayor’s attention ( ” from a claycordian ” ) must be addled or goofy. i googled LCV and the first, tippy-top, big and bold, result is LCV.org, THE LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS, for christ’s sake – one of the oldest, most respected, voter groups in America. it’s a national organization. they get out the vote and promote conservation causes, and are completely bi-partisan. among many other things they show ” how they voted ” rolls, etc. etc. why didn’t this ignoramus just try her damn search engine? jeez…

KAD June 21, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Regarding the Spanish language button – I was having a hard time getting through last year using the English speaking button so I called back and used the Spanish language button and got through right away to a person. Thank goodness they also spoke English and were able to help me.

steve weir June 21, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Here’s our Supervisor’s answer to the question on what we do:

“Olga, Will and myself are flagged to receive Spanish calls.
If we happen to get an English call on that line we will just answer the question.
Only if someone asks will we let them know that line is for Spanish speakers.”

TiredOfExcuses June 21, 2012 at 3:59 PM

@Slagheap #32

You answered your own question, “In gods name how?”

In God’s name. As long as the conservative right (or correct, whichever one prefers) believes in God and invokes his name, we will be justified and upheld.

So... June 21, 2012 at 4:00 PM

…let me get this straight: The dufus “breaking” this story to Claycord would type a couple paragraphs about how befuddled they are–paragraphs that included the name of soliciting group–instead of first doing a simple search on Google?

Like the kid said, “I see stupid people.”

TiredOfExcuses June 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM

@ChampagneKitty

No, just because you have been brainwashed by the elite-liberals who want to push their agenda on the entire country while making anyone who disagrees a “nut” does not mean all of us have. Claycord is great because of the fact that it allows, without censorship, the voices of many people who are often ignored in our public dialogue now. As a straight, which, Christian, male who loves God and our country, I am often marginalized and ignored so that minorities and special interest groups can pass their liberal agendas through progressive judicial activists. Claycord allows those of us who love our country and our God to speak up and take our nation back.

ChampagneKitty June 21, 2012 at 4:14 PM

I’ve been brainwashed? By elite-liberals? Really?

TiredOfExcuses June 21, 2012 at 4:16 PM

@ChampagneKitty

How have you not? Anyone with two eyes and two ears can tell you that I speak the truth, yet you want to marginalize me.

Kat June 21, 2012 at 4:49 PM

We just moved to Claycord in the last 9 months and received these forms in the mail this week. There is nothing suspicious or pre-filled on them other than our address. They came from an address in DC but the self-addressed envelope to return our forms is addressed to the Registrar of Voters in Martinez. It basically says that they believe we may have moved, and it is important to register to vote in our new county so that we can participate in the November election. It does not pre-fill party-affiliation or anything other than our new address.

I appreciated receiving this because I had yet to re-register here and missed the ability to vote in the recent primary. Now they’ve handled it for me and all I have to do is stamp the envelope and return it.

Man reading the comments sure makes a lot of Claycordians look ill-informed, paranoid and delusional.

And to Steve Weir, thank you for your comments. Don’t let these people get to you. I look forward to being registered to vote in CoCo County. 🙂

@ Steve Weir June 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Steve Weir @ #43,

Steve that is all well and good what your supervisor says, but the point went right over your head.

I called for two days without the ability to talk to someone in English, I push the Spanish button and I’m connected in 2 seconds.

WHY DON’T SPANISH SPEAKERS HAVE TO WAIT AS LONG AS I DO? Are you purposefully attempting to restrict my ability as an ENGLISH speaker to find out election information. Why don’t Spanish speakers wait in the same queue I do if your Spanish speaking employees are also willing to answer English questions.

Let me assure you that the Spanish speaking employee I talked to was extremely annoyed that he had to help an English speaker.

@TiredofExcuses June 21, 2012 at 5:07 PM

you make no sense. Look at the makeup of govt., it is controlled by white men at all levels. Personally, I think that is a big part of our problems…lol

funny man June 21, 2012 at 7:08 PM

funnyest thread EVAH!!! talk about jumpin the shark.
irony comin from me.. DONT FEED the woefully ignorant TROLLS!
i needed a laugh tonite

Where is Steve Wier June 21, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Hey Steve Weir,

Why don’t you answer the questions in post #50? What are you trying to hide?

CCC Anon June 21, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Anon Redux #27, no group that hands out voter registration forms or signs up new voters requires proof of citizenship before handing over a form. It’s not their job to decide who is eligible to vote and who is not. Only the Registrar of Voters can do that.

The Clayton Library has voter registration forms on the main desk for anyone to pick up. They don’t require proof of citizenship before they allow you pick up a form. Are the librarians part of some massive Democratic conspiracy to steal the election by registering non-citizen voters? Is Grassfire Nation going to come after the little old lady behind the library counter?

REALLLLy? June 21, 2012 at 11:55 PM

why does is it seem reasonable to people to get hyphy on someone elses oppinion….CHILL

JRConcord June 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM

@ Shuley
@ Champagne Kitty
I will see you in the FEMA camps!! The far left and far right are both whacked!!! 😉

Anon Redux June 22, 2012 at 8:44 AM

@CCC Anon #55. Here’s the problem. The 1993 Motor Voter Act provides more flexibility in voting, while attempting to address increased opportunities for fraud by mandating that states purge their voter rolls of inedible voters. But it isn’t working.

In the past 29 years, technology has greatly enhanced the ability of groups to target messages to specific demographic groups cheaply and quickly (via regular direct mail, e-mail, etc). This fact alone greatly increases the potential for voter fraud.

At the same time we have a corrupt, partisan Attorney General who is trying to block voter ID efforts. For example Florida (often considered the key voting state) is now trying to purge its voter roles, and it has to fight Holder in order to do so. Here is part of a writeup on Florida and the Motor Voter law: http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/opinion/x345281906/Murdock-Voting-and-the-law#ixzz1yXJS567x

The 1993 National Voter Registration Act (AKA Motor Voter) holds that “A State shall … systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.” Further, the 2002 Helping America Vote Act, adopted after 2000’s Bush v. Gore recount fiasco in … where again? Oh, yes … Florida, commands that “The appropriate State or local election official shall perform list maintenance with respect to the computerized list on a regular basis … For purposes of removing names of ineligible voters …”

Like an overgrown lawn, Florida’s voter rolls screamed for attention. When Sunshine State officials compared voter lists with the Social Security Death Index, they discovered 51,308 registered voters who happened to be dead.

Last September, Florida asked the U.S. Department of Homeland Security for access to its Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) national citizenship database. DHS has stonewalled Florida’s request, and those from Colorado, Michigan, and North Carolina.

As Florida’s Secretary of State Ken Detzner wrote the U.S. Justice Department on June 6, “a chain of emails dating back nine months … demonstrates DHS’s refusals and delays in this regard.”

Florida then examined its driver’s license applications against voter rolls. It discovered 182,000 potential non-citizen registered voters. SAVE could determine which drivers had become naturalized, but DHS will not share this record with Florida.

A sub-sample of 2,600 of these 182,000 possible aliens yielded at least 500 now-naturalized citizens as well as, so far, 104 confirmed non-citizen registered voters, 56 of whom feloniously have voted. If representative, this sample extrapolates to 7,280 registered non-citizens, 3,920 of whom may have voted and may do so again. Given that George W. Bush won Florida and, thus, the White House, by just 537 votes, Americans should rail against the possibility that more than seven times as many aliens could be poised to elect the next president of the United States.

steve weir June 22, 2012 at 9:12 AM

We contacted the national office for the League of Conservation Voters. They are taking the state voter registration file (which they have a legal right to do), and running it against the National Change of Address database with the Post Office. They are sending anyone who appears to have changed their address a new registration card. We told them that we do that ourselves every month. When we find someone who has moved within the County, we move their registration and send a post card telling them of what we have done. If they move between counties, the SOS sends them a registration form.

There is a lag time of about 8 weeks between the data comparison and when the LCV sends out registration forms. By then, we have already moved to contact the voter. (Thus, many voters are unhappy that they are being asked to re-register because they already are properly registered.

There are other groups that will do the same. We have been told to expect another big push in August. As long as they are only filling out name and address, there’s no illegal activity. And, if they are having you send the form directly to us, and are not collecting them for submission themselves, you’re OK to fill out the form.

We are now hearing about a form coming out of Pennsylvania. We have asked the caller to provide us with an image, or copy of the form. Unless you are willing to help us by providing a copy of the form that you are concerned about, there is little we can do.

To the post about our Spanish line, I have already said I am sorry that the voter had a bad experience with my office. Our policy has been stated previously. To be fair, this thread deals with questionable voter registration activities. Sorry, but other issues tend to look like Alice in Wonderland about to go down the rabbit hole.

Connie Dobbs June 22, 2012 at 10:04 AM

#59 I bet Florida wishes it had inedible voters.

anonk June 22, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Simple…..

Tired=Troll=Ignore.

TiredOfExcuses June 22, 2012 at 11:11 AM

@Aonk

This drives me insane. You disagree with me, having been brainwashed by the media, so the automatic response is an attempt to discredit by trying to claim that I must be faking this. What happened to the open minded nature of liberals? Oh wait, that is the biggest lie they tell, besides saying that Obama is Christian/born in America.

Anon Redux June 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM

@Steve Weir #60. I appreciate your efforts to ensure that voter integrity safeguards are in place in Contra Costa County.

However, the 2012 election process is turning into a battle between election officials (in Florida and other states) and the federal government. Here is one of many recent news stories:

Florida aims to protect ballot integrity
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/florida-aims-to-protect-ballot-integrity/1236579

Despite our success identifying ineligible voters based on the information available to the state, there is the potential to identify and remove additional noncitizens, potentially thousands, on the voter rolls if the federal government is willing to support our efforts. Knowing this to be the case, we have spent the last year making repeated requests for access to the most comprehensive database of information on noncitizens, a database that belongs to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

Despite their legal obligation to provide us access, the federal government has refused. Complicating our efforts to work with the federal government, the U.S. Justice Department recently demanded we stop removing noncitizens from the voter rolls entirely until after the general election in November.

The stance of the federal government hardly seems designed to protect the integrity of elections and to ensure that eligible voters have their votes counted without being neutralized by an ineligible voter. As a result, the Florida Department of State recently filed a lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to grant us access to their database of noncitizen information, and we are fighting a lawsuit by the Justice Department claiming we cannot remove noncitizens from the voter rolls.

The actions by the federal government are negatively impacting Florida’s ability to fulfill its legal obligation to verify voter registration rolls are current and accurate. Permitting ineligible noncitizen voters to cast ballots undermines the mission of the Florida Department of State and erodes the faith the electorate has in the fairness and reliability of the electoral process.

Florida’s primary election day is Aug. 14, making it even more urgent for the federal government to join our efforts to ensure the integrity of Florida elections. It’s not just the lawful thing to do. It’s the right thing to do.

TiredOfExcuses June 22, 2012 at 11:39 AM

@64

No, only an insane person would follow to the letter of the Old Testament. I do not use lamb blood for passover, I am not Hebrew. As for my wife, she is happy as can be. She has raised our 9 children with out complaint, to be good Christians and GREAT Americans.

As for the Birth Certificate. If you have done ANY research, you would know that there are so many problems with it that it cannot be real.

Finally, as to the marginalization. Economically speaking, white people are suffering now at the hands of affirmitive action and illegals invading our nation. It is harder and harder for white people to compete in the economy, as Obama is continuing to allow immigrants into this country to steal our jobs, educations, and lives. Just because some white people are rich does not mean we are not suffering more than other groups. My faith/church is constantly under attack just because we do not support unnatural unions. There is a war in our country, against good God Fearing people by abberations.

Shuley June 22, 2012 at 1:38 PM

@ Tired of Excuses

So, thank you.
In your post you basically said you do pick and choose what teachings in the old testament you choose to follow. As I thought.
You wife is happy and raised your 9(!) children without complaint. Of course..she’s not allowed to complain.

As for the BC. I have done my research. There is no credible evidence that it is a fake. Joe Arpaio has been proven to be wrong, and proven to be a racist which is why his case was, again, thrown out of court. And Federal Judges (many who oppose Obama’s views) agree and have thrown case after case out of court. It’s now down to whack jobs and racists that still make that complaint.

Finally, according to you “Economically speaking, white people are suffering now at the hands of affirmitive (sic) action and illegals invading our nation.” No, you are wrong. As I pointed out, census data proves the opposite to be correct. Whites are getting richer. How are they “suffering economically”? If YOU did ANY research, you would see that plain as day. Obama has been tougher on immigration than any President in decades. He has deported more illegals than any President in decades.

You faith is not “under attack”. WTF are you talking about? If you do not believe in Gay marriage, don’t have one. Nobody is forcing you to believe in it or practice it. The problem is, people don’t want YOUR religious beliefs dictating law in this country.

TiredOfExcuses June 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM

@Shuley

I feel your last comment was completely disrespectful, something I do not condone. My wife is free to do whatever she pleases. If God punishes her, that is due to her own actions, but she can still do as she pleases.

So now I am a racist? It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with the fact that he had to have been born in Kenya, because his grandmother said so, and was there!

I do not know where you are getting your economic information, but it is insanely false. Look at construction, all the whites are being let go while the Mexicants are getting the jobs they are not even legally allowed to hold. If they were so smart, why would they not just learn English?

My faith is constantly under attack. If the gays get married, my church could lose all of its RIGHTS as a religious institution. Who are they to take away MY rights and the rights of my church?

@ tiredofexcuces June 22, 2012 at 4:33 PM

So, one can only be smart if one knows English? And why do the ‘Mexicans’ need to learn English?

This Mexican speaks 4 languages June 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM

I’m tired of religious/racist/hater/breeder/cretin/ignoramus psychobabble

Shuley June 22, 2012 at 5:17 PM

@ Tired of Excuses

Hilarious. My last post on this thread. You are almost not worth debating because you are detached from reality. Who is brainwashed? You bring up the grandmother thing? That was debunked long ago. Here is a portion of an article from Politifact:

“The claim is based on an Oct. 16, 2008, telephone call between Bishop Ron McRae of the Anabaptist Churches of North America and Sarah Obama of Kenya, Barack Obama’s elderly step-grandmother. The interview is complicated by the addition of at least one translator, because Sarah Obama, then 86, spoke Swahili.

The edited portion that often makes the rounds on the Internet includes this part of the interview:

McRae: “Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to visit Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?”

“She says yes she was. She was present when Obama was born,” said the translator.

Smoking gun? Only if you stop the tape there and don’t listen to the rest of the interview.

McRae immediately followed up by saying, “Okay, when I come in December, I would like to go by the place, the hospital where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?”

The translator can be heard translating, and then, he said, “No. Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.”

Said McRae: “Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.”

The response came back, “He was born in America, not in Mombasa.”

“Do you know where he was born?” McRae continued. “I thought he was born in Kenya. I was gonna go by and see where he was born.”

“Hawaii. She says he was born in Hawaii,” the translator said. “In the state of Hawaii, where his father, his father was also learning there. The state of Hawaii.”

“I thought she said she was present,” McRae said. “Was she able to see him being born in Hawaii?”

“No, no,” the translator said. “…She was not … she was here in Kenya. Obama was born in America … Because the grandmother was back in Kenya and Obama was born in America, where he is from, where his father was learning, learning in America, the United States.”

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/07/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-president-obamas-grandmother-cau/

Oh, and your church will not lose its “rights” as a religious institution. There is no such thing. What you are saying is it will lose it’s TAX EXEMPTION. Well, maybe they should pay their damn taxes if they are going to discriminate.

DONE

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