Student at Ygnacio Valley High School Attempts Suicide During 6th Period Class

March 2, 2012 17:15 pm · 139 comments

A student at Ygnacio Valley High School attempted suicide during a 6th period class on Friday, according to Mount Diablo Unified School District Superintendent Steven Lawrence.

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1 Isabelle&Navil March 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Lets show love to this kid and his family and show him 1 qood reason why he should not kill himself. Lets qet tha whole city to support them in this time of need.

2 SadMom March 2, 2012 at 5:22 PM

I only hope that no one decides to talk negatively at this subject. My heart goes out to the family and friends of this student and I hope they understand they are worth more than taking their own life :(

3 OverEmotional March 2, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Emo kids these days, SMH

4 Isabelle&Navil March 2, 2012 at 5:25 PM

I say we share tha love to this kid and his family in this time of need. show him reasons as to why he should most defenitly not attempt suicide.

5 ANONYMOUS March 2, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Maybe posting some resources for help with such a post Mayor would be prudent:

800.273.TALK / 800.SUICIDE

6 aj March 2, 2012 at 5:28 PM

I had classes that boring in high school too.

7 toni March 2, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Wow that is so sad my prayers are with the family.

8 J March 2, 2012 at 5:31 PM

That’s horrible. Thoughts and Prayers to: the victim, the victim’s family, friends, teachers, and schoolmates.

9 Peanuts Mommy March 2, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Right when I saw this my phone rang with the message…so awful.

10 craig manic March 2, 2012 at 5:34 PM

depression is a serious issue, that everyone seems to ignore with kids. the video games\tv act as a stimulant to keep them going.

11 CVCHS Parent March 2, 2012 at 5:43 PM

I am so happy we got out of this district.

This boy apparently got the attention he wanted… too bad he had to traumatize everyone. A purely selfish act… and sadly, this is only the beginning.

12 A mom who's been there March 2, 2012 at 5:43 PM

I just received this phone call too. My heart just breaks to hear this. It’s sad that this student attempted at school, where others had to witness it, but hang goodness they did. He/she was able to be stopped and get some immediate help. I hope this child is able to get the support hey need to get through this. I am very blessed that when my son felt he was going to commit suicide last year, he came and told me. He spent nearly a month in mental facilities, he is currently taking anti-depressants, and in therapy. Being a teen is so hard. Please teens, know that things do get better and the things that seem so big now, will seem so small in just a few years. Don’t feel alone. As alone as you may feel, you are loved and you will be missed… The ones you leave behind will blame themselves, and even years later they will wonder how they could have stopped you. Please find someone you can trust, and let them help you. I promise, things get better.

13 A mom who's been there March 2, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Oops that was thank goodness!

14 Tony's Mom March 2, 2012 at 5:47 PM

We got this message at home this evening. So sad and my heart goes out to the children and families involved.

15 WCmom March 2, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Crisis and Suicide
800.273.TALK / 800.SUICIDE
888.628.9454 (Español)




Information & Referral

16 Katrina March 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM

How did this student try to do this I’m concerned that other children may try To copy in a non public place

17 Mst March 2, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Just got the phone call from the district.

18 TRANSPO March 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM

I’m glade he wasn’t successful at it. I Hope he is able to get the help he needs..

19 wow March 2, 2012 at 6:26 PM

@cvchs parent: please don’t give other CV parents a bad name over your cold hearted and ignorant response. Prayers are w the family and student from caring CVCHS parents.

20 ana March 2, 2012 at 6:27 PM

CVCHS Parent just revealed how self-centered he is. Shame on you for posting about yourself and your silly charter when someone else is in crisis.

21 @katrina March 2, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Believe me, if a highschool student wants to end their life, they already KNOW how to do it. It’s not like suicide methods are a highly guarded secret..

22 cilla March 2, 2012 at 6:31 PM

so sad I hope he gets help

23 What is hard about being a teen? March 2, 2012 at 6:32 PM

I am puzzled when I see people saying “being a teen is so hard.” What’s hard about it? Go to school, stay out of trouble, choose nice friends, do your homework…what’s hard about it? I grew up in a city very close in size and makeup to Concord. Middle/working class. I don’t remember one difficult thing about being a teen. There were 100 other kids I knew well, and I am sure that 90% of them would say there was nothing difficult about being a teen. We avoided the kids who did drugs or smoked. I think those are the only kids who had a difficult time…the ones who ditched school and smoked, or drank. I loved being a teenager and so did all the other kids I knew. In fact, we’re all Facebook friends now and regularly reminisce about all the good times we had. We didn’t want to grow up…we were having too much fun. But we did grow up. I just don’t ‘get’ what is difficult about being a teenager. Just stay away from troublemakers, choose friends who study and have law-abiding fun. You don’t need to say that was then and this is now. My nieces are in high school and having the time of their lives…they love it. They play basketball, get involved in plays and musicals outside of school, have good, clean fun with friends, go to church youth group, grow flowers and decorate their yards, I am sure they see nothing difficult about being a teen. Their family lives paycheck to paycheck. And they are students in a mostly mixed ethnic school.

24 been there March 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM

@CVCHS mom-
Really? Do you think this kid was thinking “boy, this will get their attention”? No. S/he was in so much pain and distress that no one noticed they tried to end the pain. There is a good chance that student has a bona fide medical condition, a mental illness, that needs treatment. You also seem to think you will be immune to this at the charter school. Nope. Might even see more of it with the increased pressure to have better test scores and reduced support services.

25 YOURDADDYDEVILANDLORD March 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Someone wanted attention……

26 anonymous March 2, 2012 at 6:41 PM

@CVCHS PARENT : How dare you. A kid from CVHS could have done the same thing. Don’t be so ignorant. This was NOT a selfish act.

27 Anonamomma March 2, 2012 at 6:42 PM

CVCHS Parent: This could have happened ANYWHERE. How insensitive of you. Is this how you parent your children? You should be ashamed of yourself. A total lack of humanity.

28 grumpy March 2, 2012 at 6:46 PM

My heart goes out to this persons family..I’m glad he did hurt himself…there is help out there..

29 Unbelievable March 2, 2012 at 6:48 PM

To CVCHS Parent: Give me a break! Nice try to blame this on the district. You have NO IDEA what could be going in this student’s life that may have nothing to do with school. Shame on you!

30 Disgusted @ 11 March 2, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I can’t believe anyone would use this as a platform for CVCHS. Shame on you. If you really believe this could not happen there or any other High School anywhere you are very foolish. Go read up on suicide and educate yourself. Hopefully next time you post it will be something marginally intelligent.

31 Kendall March 2, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I hope this child gets the necessary treatment they need. I will keep them in my prayers. Everyone with children should be having a conversation about this subject. You might be surprised at what they tell you. My kids and I have open communication, but I am not naive; there are things I do not know about them. I only pray they would come to me if they were having feelings of ending their life.

32 deerah March 2, 2012 at 6:52 PM

I’m sad for the kid, family and students. Even though this is a terrible event it could have been a lot worse, this student could have tried taking out other students first.
CVCHS parent, you should be ashamed of yourself for such a heartless comment. I’m sure the district is much better without you in it.

33 Omg March 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM

@CVCHS parent-
As a parent who has a child entering CVCHS this fall, I can only hope that your tactless, insensitive, inhumane comment does not reflect the mentality of the school – I only hope your precious, elitist, entitled child never has to deal with depression or other mental illness because you will be of no help.

34 P hill love March 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM

ANYONE KNOW HOW HE DID THIS???? the message said that they students came to the aid of the injured student, so what did he do?? that’s traumatizing seriously, I am 29 years old and it’s scary to me that in just the almost 12 years ago I graduated how much kids have changed and ita sa how much messed up crap we are hearing about!

But what exactly happened, because the message was extremely vague

35 Concord1963 March 2, 2012 at 6:58 PM

@CVCHS Parent: How can you be so icy cold? I’m GLAD the student finally got some needed attention – hopefully the attention he receives will be enough to help prevent another scream for help and enable him to work through the severe troubles he is experiencing. The teen years are so dramatic and confusing – even those children that appear happy have difficulty dealing with life in the teenage years.

I’m glad I’m not your child!

36 mom of 3 March 2, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Huge hugs & support for this family… There are resources that can help u just be strong and remember tomorrow morning starts a new day… Wonder what this child has been going through to make them feel they had no other way out…
@cvchs parent Its a great thing to not have a child with a disability or mental illness but not all of us have that luxury… If that is really how you feel i am sure karma will have a field day with you..

37 @Cvchs parent March 2, 2012 at 7:07 PM

YOUR STUPID. I graduated from clayton valley high school in 2008 and during my four years there, there was two teenagers who took their lives! Which was hard on everybody. So save your high and mighty act for somebody else. Teenagers sometimes do need help because they feel like they can’t go to anybody. Think of what other people are going though before you make your stupid stuck up comments. My thoughts and prayers go out to them and their family.

38 Willie Jones March 2, 2012 at 7:09 PM

If there was only open carry this would have never happened! Seriously though, who cares if you received this message too. Stop posting that you got it. You’re not special.

39 A human being March 2, 2012 at 7:09 PM

People like CVCHS Parents above have no taste. If someone is in enough pain to attpemt to take their own lives I feel so sorry for them. But the real problem is the parents like the one above. Suicide in front of a class is a desparate cry for help and the crude comment that says that it was “selfish” is a horrible example of what our world has come to.
I am so sorry for that students family and really hope they get the help they need.

40 P March 2, 2012 at 7:10 PM

CVCHS you are so ignorant. You probably think black people shouldn’t use the same bathroom as white people.
Go look up the word IGNORANT in the dictionary

CVCHS believes in hazing and bullying, so I can’t think of a single reason why I would want to send my child to that school.

41 ozziethedawg March 2, 2012 at 7:10 PM

what you see as a cry for attention is actually just a cry for help. many people do not want to die but they see no other option. thankfully, this child did not make it permanent by hiding what they were going to do. read a little, get educated on the subject and show some compassion.

42 Kim March 2, 2012 at 7:12 PM

This story breaks my heart. It seems that bullying has become the norm and both students and faculty regard it as a fact of life. Until a hard line with substantial penalties is put in place the bullying will continue. I am praying for this person and their family. What I can’t understand is the bullying continuing in this comments section. CVCHS Parent, how dare you make callous comments about this child. You were thoughtless, cruel and judgemental, all things bullying encompasses. I, too, am thrilled you are out of this district.

43 Joel March 2, 2012 at 7:19 PM

@CVCHS Parent,

I’m glad you got out of our district as well.

A Northgate parent.

44 SadMom March 2, 2012 at 7:20 PM

@cvchs; I feel really bad for you, and yours… You seem to lack compassion , and I hope your children can learn it elsewhere. Mental health often goes unoticed in adolescents, making it hard for them to ask for help. It doesn’t matter what school, YV ,CVCHS, or DE LA SALLE, depression is everywhere…

Like my Grandma said when I was going through a tough life as a kid….

Never judge a book by its cover , you may never know the battles and sadness or happiness inside…

45 YVGrad March 2, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Suicide is a serious issue, and all people have to say is that he got the attention he wanted? I’m appalled by that comment, especially since it came from a parent. Have some compassion and sympathy. Some people are going through things and they don’t have any other outlets, so they make poor choices, but they should not be criticized for their actions.

46 Jodi March 2, 2012 at 7:27 PM

I got the message too and felt horribly sad for the parents and family members of this child. My thoughts are with everyone that witnessed this.

47 Anon March 2, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Have any of you considered that the “CVHS Parent” you are castigating may not be a CVCHS parent but somebody who is still determined to make those charter supporters look bad. Get the facts in all cases before you leap to conclusions. My thoughts, and I am a CV person, are for the young person and his family. And to the sham “CVCHS Parent” who is stirring up trouble, shame on you.

48 momtoo March 2, 2012 at 7:29 PM

To CVCHS—please read that post…The poor teen that attempted sucide wasn”t thinking” Gee how can I screw up my fellow classmates” U seem to think that he/she main goal was to be a selfish act-get ur facts straight. Teens that are in that much of a despair are in a very dark place they are not even thinking about anything but ending their pain-try thinking about the poor teen and what they are going through instead of blaming him/her! you sound like the selfish one here!! WOW- I hope people on this blog understand that what is needed is compassion not criticism.

49 anon March 2, 2012 at 7:30 PM

“How insensitive of you. Is this – how you parent your children? You should be ashamed of yourself. ”

Its a blog – this is America & we can say what we want to–deal with it
I didn’t get any in High school either–only the Football players got some from the cheerleaders – us common people were not good enough

50 G March 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM
51 CJ March 2, 2012 at 7:41 PM

This is the first time I’ve been ashamed of my support for CVCHS.

52 anon March 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM

I, too, used to think that suicide was a very selfish act… and then one day, I began to feel the effects of depression. I could not, no matter how hard I tried, control how I felt. It was a terrible, helpless feeling and I am glad that I found out that it was a not a life-long illness, but just a medicine that I was on. Trust me- there is nothing worse than feeling miserable without any reason or understanding why you feel this way. I would sit and cry and have absolutely no idea why I felt so sad. It was horrible.
Until you have walked in others’ shoes, it is not for you to judge one’s actions. You can not know that it was this student’s intention to do it for attention. They may have a legitimate illness. I hope that they are able to find help to fight against the uncontrollable urges that lead them to such disturbing acts. I hope they find peace!

53 J March 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

There are a number of trolls who post here and on the facebook page regularly – its easy to spot them as their comments are so stupid. They make these comments to get you guys angry, and feed off the shocked replies- the best policy is to ignore them, don’t give them the attention they seek.

On topic, I just hope the kid now gets the help and love he needs.

54 anon March 2, 2012 at 7:58 PM

This broke my heart hearing this afternoon when I was picking up my daughter and received the call from the superintendent. I first thought the student had passed away so I am relieved to hear this student was giving a second chance. I can’t imagine what this has or will be like for those student’s, teacher’s, or even this students parents getting that call home. I hope this student will get the help they need and appreciate the opportunity to continue living they have been granted. God Bless.
‘Don’t regret growing older, it’s a privilege denied to many’

55 SevFam March 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

God be with you youngster…may He hold you and keep you during these days. I wish I could say your situation will get better, but the reality is, it may not, I pray for your continued endurance in whatever your going through…praying for you.

56 Anonymous March 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

What an upsetting occurence. My heart breaks for the student, the family and those who witnessed it.

To the CVCHS Parent who left such a heartless comment: I really hope you dig deep and rethink what you said. A. These types of things can happen in any school regardless of test scores, affluence or school district. B. Depression/suicide is real and can happen to anyone. I hope you aren’t this cold to your own family.

57 Susanne Renner March 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM

My heart goes out to all involved. And ignore the cvchs parent as it is obviously someone stirring the pot and warrants no attention and perhaps maybe not even a parent.

58 Fred March 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Hats off to the students @YVHS who watched this horrific event and ACTED!! I can’t even imagine … you are truly the heroes here. I’m impressed that the district acted so quickly with counselors accessible to all involved. This is the time for a community to come together … It takes a village …

59 middlepath March 2, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Sending compassion and love to the kid, his family and the other students at YVHS.

60 @CVCHS Parent March 2, 2012 at 8:25 PM

You’re an idiot some kid actually commited suicide at CV back in the day.

61 Robbie Douglas March 2, 2012 at 8:30 PM

wtf cvchs parent you be so heartless

62 RanchgirlCA March 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

My prayers to the student, their family, friends and all the students and teachers affected by this. I lost my father 3 years ago to suicide. Depression is a serious illness and needs to be takes seriously. I hope all concerned get help to deal with this. Everyone will need support.

63 to #23 March 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM

whats hard about being a teen . . . what hard about being a human being in todays society. there is so much pressure to be thin . be healthy . fit in . be smart . go to school . get a job . work. cant find work. kids hear adults talk and they worry more then we adults do because they dont understand. it is hard to be a teen its hard being a kid with everything that is going on in our world . war . terrorism the environment . financially . and not to mention with all the electronics that are accessable to children younger and younger we as a people are forgetting how to communicate we have lost our emotional connection with other people.
people please put down the ipad phone turn off the tv shut down ur computer and hug your children tell them you lovethem and savorthe moments you can share with them.

64 Bubbles March 2, 2012 at 8:54 PM know, if this was just for attention, obviously they felt they had no one, or couldn’t go to anyone n talk about whatever it is that’s troubling them..its sooo much eaiser to tell someone to just talk about it with another, then to actually do it. You obviously do not know how dare u say such a cold hearted why dnt you back up what you said n tell us how you feel now! My prayers go out!

65 Anon March 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Believe it or not this did actually happen to cv last year, so that cvchs parent can shut it!! My heart goes out to this kid & his/her family. I really hope this ends soon this kid probably got bullied I just lost a friend to bullying on new years

66 Anon March 2, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Poster #37 are you for real? “YOUR STUPID”? Wow, just wow.

67 Concord4Life March 2, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Sometimes the people on here make me sick!! Who knows what this poor child was going through. Number 11 and number 23 It must be hard being so perfect. It’s people like you that raise children that probably bully kids like this. You should really take a step back and think about things before you open your big mouth!! For once think about this poor kid and what their family is going through. I am so sorry if anyone from that family come on this site and I wish you the best and there’s people out here that are loving and care!

68 @What is hard about being a teen? March 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Are you serious? What’s so hard? Hmmm well back then they didn’t have magazines telling you what the best way to look is……. pressuring kids into trying to get “perfect image” causing depression and isolation. Back then there were more morals and parents having control over their children and now there’s barely any control and as far as your friends kids good for them but I bet peopled tease them they may be strong enough to handle the teasing but others aren’t they take it personal and don’t want to be around because they see no way out. Yes you had a great high school experience so many years ago but guess what times changed and there are so many issues that are unsolved that you don’t see. Just because you had a good time in high school doesn’t mean everybody else did or will.

69 Hero's in my book March 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM

I am so proud of the students that helped a fellow student who was in their darkest hour. To me they are all hero’s. They did what a lot of adults won’t do and that is get involved. God Bless all of you.
My own daughter told me last week that she hated life I had to 51-50 her. Thank God I had the time to get help. I thank CPD for all their help.
With the peer presure, heavy school work load, and just the pressure of life these kids need a lot of love and understanding.
I will be praying for the family and student.
I am praying for all the students and staff that were involved in this situation. You did a great job today! My hat’s off to you!

70 Proud mom of 3 March 2, 2012 at 9:15 PM

@ CVCHS “parent”…ur ignorant, STUPID and you’re definitely the selfish one. I would love to know where you live so I could go over there & punch u in ur friggin mouth! My thoughts are with the student and his/her family.

71 Nanny March 2, 2012 at 9:16 PM

@What is hard about being a teen?

Are you serious? You have been watching way to much Leave it to Beaver!! What if this child was molested or abused? Or lost a parent? Or worse? How dare you judge other people! Typical “Christian” on here judging and no love and support. My heart and prayers to this family.

72 CVHS96 March 2, 2012 at 9:38 PM

So, are you all saying this child didn’t want attention. CVCHS parent may have been able to say it a little nicer for all you libs, but the fact is, this child needed attention, and now they will get it. It’s yes, it’s horrid, but now this child will get help, and attention they surely need. Maybe if parents took a little more time with their children they could catch some of this crap before it gets this far. What about that folks? My girls are young, and I work 40 hour weeks, but every night we have dinner together, I ask about there day, I ask how school was, I tuck them into bed, and even though they are young I’ve told them that if they have something they need an adult to know but don’t want to tell me, they have relatives and family friends that will gladley listen. Parents need to do a little more parenting, and stop being so selfish themselves. Maybe then our kids will have the morals, and the tools to make proper choices, and become healthy young adults. Stop letting other peoples kids raise your kids!

73 mika March 2, 2012 at 9:45 PM

The kids in the classroom acted and helped to stop the student from further injuring himself. Congratulations and God bless you for stepping up to help a fellow student. YV has many wonderful students, so tired of listening to people talk smack about them. I suggest troubled teens get reacquainted with Jesus and God and realize that they are loved and their life is precious.

74 CV Student March 2, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Lol @ CVCH Parent. Kids have killed themselves at Cv before dumbass. The kids who killed themselves got the attention they wanted, so don’t act as if Cv is so much better than YV…

75 been there March 2, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Well let’s think about this. Noone tries to kill themselves over homework or a bad teacher or grade. They are probably ridiculed (just like some people are doing on here) It’s ugly Peer pressure or a breakup that leads them to beleive they cannot go on. High School can be very cruel, just like Claycordians can be. Words of the day…….BE NICE!

76 me March 2, 2012 at 9:54 PM

#11 you’re really stupid. I hope you’re not a spokesmen for CVCHS.

77 Celine March 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Dear Everybody,
What happened to a community? We are all part of the same community. Being a teenager IS hard. But so is any other stage of life. I am a teenager, and I love it, but that doesn’t mean we were all teenagers once. We all make mistakes in life, and that’s how we learn how to embrace it. People DO need help. Everyone needs help, no matter what their problem is. Just because the CVCHS/ district thing is going on, we don’t have to throw it into something MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH MORE SERIOUS. I’m ashamed in the adults making ridiculous comments, when a more serious matter is upon our hands. CVCHS is another matter, and we all have our voices and opinions but we need to state them at the right time.Taking your own life away is tragic or attempting too is also tragic. This family needs our SUPPORT, not our NEGATIVITY. To the affected family/ friends- I am glad this person got help. Please tell them that I will keep them in my prayers.

78 C.H. March 2, 2012 at 10:15 PM

The problem these days is the parents. They are way too soft on their kids so when ONE little thing goes wrong the kid doesn’t know how to handle themselves. I grew up with very little money and next to no help from my parents. They taught me at a young age to fend for myself. If I wanted to go out I had to find my own way to get there and get home. If I wanted to buy something I used my own money. I got my first job at 15, got good grades, graduated and was living on my own at 18. Ive paid out of pocket for college the past 5 years and am on my way to graduation. I see kids my age who still rely on their parents, have no direction, and are basically useless. Life is not that hard for these kids. I have a sister who is freshman and the workload they give her is half of what I remember getting. If you teach your kids young to worry about themselves and not be easily influenced then they will be more likely to have thick skin and not give in to peer pressure. My sister is so comfortable and happy with who she is at 14 that she doesn’t let negative people get to her. If she has a problem she finds a positive solution for it. Now I don’t know this kid’s exact situation and my heart goes out to him and his family, I hope he gets the help he needs. My rant here in no way is directed at him but at everyone else saying life as a teen is so Damn hard. Yes, there ARE some teens who legitly
have a tough time but that’s not the case with most of them.

79 Anonymous March 2, 2012 at 10:33 PM

This is so sad. I hope the child gets the help that he/she needs. The whole incident is just horrific. I pray that all the children who witnessed this will be okay as well. I am so sorry any if this had to happen.

80 Pleasant Jenny March 2, 2012 at 10:55 PM

My love and prayers to this CHILD and may I say CHILD again. And for the parents as well.

81 Riff Raff March 2, 2012 at 11:02 PM

in defense of #23, I could have written that. Some say growing up is different now, some say there is nothing new under the sun. I don’t think there is one correct perspective here. My upbringing would have killed my kids – instead of attempting suicide they would have actually done it. My childhood would be brutal by today’s standards, yet I remember it fondly. I basically had two jobs: get good grades and stay out of trouble. Alcoholic father, neighborhood bullies, constant fear of nukes. I don’t get the comments here about media pressure to be perfect. That’s not new. In my day the girls tried to look like Farrah, and I felt intense pressure to look like Bruce Lee. Never got clinically depressed over it.

Sure times have changed, and we can’t put some genies back in the bottle, like the internet, cell phones, and cable TV. But with any modern social problem that concerns our children, I have to put on my flak jacket and mention the elephant in the room. Women’s Lib. Day Care, latchkey children, fatherless households. A lot of kids are growing up in a different society because we thought it would be a good idea if women had to go to work, too. Go ahead and kill the messenger if you must, but I think it is dishonest to deny that the economic and political empowerment of women has had a sometimes adverse effect on childhood.

A lot of posters on here seem to think that unless you have direct experience with something or have been victimized you are not qualified to speak. That is utterly stupid, but as regards teen suicide, everyone can bite me. Been there, done that, and it doesn’t seem to be over. I’m the expert, OK? I’m sorry if my first reaction to suicide attempts isn’t to accuse everybody around me of insensitivity. What we need to be sensitive to is investigating correlations with the surge in teen suicides, with an eye towards identifying possible causes. What really IS different about growing up today? The role of women? The role of men? Vaccines? Food additives? Discipline in schools?

And it doesn’t take someone with multiple current experiences with teen suicide attempts like myself to know this: The current treatment for clinical depression is to prescribe anti-depressants, which ironically cause suicidal tendencies. If that’s a problem they can try out a bunch of different ones, until your brain is mush, or your insurance runs out. Speaking strictly from my own anecdotal experiences. Your results may vary.

82 motherof2 March 2, 2012 at 11:04 PM

i have family at the school and was told it was all because he was bullied.. its so sad and i hope the child is alright & recieves the help he needs my thoughts are with the family

83 vs March 2, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Depression is just as much physiological as it is caused by environment. Hormones are raging at this age along with the need to feel accepted by peers and your own feelings of self worth. Being a teenager is hard, especially if you have other things going on in your life. Just because you are blessed with your perfect life don’t rag on others. That’s just asking for some karma to bite you in the ass.

84 Teacher at YVHS March 2, 2012 at 11:46 PM

My heart breaks for the student and his family. I can’t begin the fathom the pain or the disjointed thought process that he/she must have been in to attempt this in a classroom. And the other students in the classroom who experienced this event. . . from what I’ve heard, they were all amazing in their mature response to the situation and quick action in getting help for this student.

It’s a horrible, horrible situation that has already touched so many lives. I hope this brings our community closer together as we search for meaning.

85 Anon March 2, 2012 at 11:55 PM

@CVCHS parent:
You and your comment disgust me, just the same as your school & your students always have.
From: a PROUD Ygnacio Valley High School graduate

86 A different Clayton parent March 3, 2012 at 12:08 AM

May I ask why everyone is so enraged with CVCHS Parent? Aside from the statement about the district (which I will admit was a little out of context), everything s/he said was true.

Today the student has the attention of the community. Yesterday no one cared about this person, today s/he is getting well wishes from people s/he never knew. “This WAS a cry for help apparently got the attention he wanted… too bad he had to traumatize everyone.” That is all true.

Why so angry, Claycord?

87 onelovedmom March 3, 2012 at 12:14 AM

I will join in prayer for this child and its family. Plus I will pray for all who suffer from depression.

Parents please use this as a starting point to speak to your children.

Teacher/Administrators let us please use this as the way to open the door for conversation in our schools.

88 beemerlover26 March 3, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Suicide isn’t a selfish act? Some of you people need to get a grip on reality!
Suicide IS a selfish, a cowardly way out. It’s a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Suicide survivors are left with a void their entire life-wondering, “What could we have done differently to help?” The fact of the matter is this…If someone really wants to die, there is nothing you can do to help.You may be able to delay or postpone it, but eventually they will get their way. Feel sorry for those left behind, not for the person who took their own life.

89 @anon #66 March 3, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Yeah I am for real, people with that attitude are stupid! There is no other way of putting it. Get over it.

90 Elizabeth March 3, 2012 at 12:40 AM

This is for all of the insipidly smug posters who walked 20 miles in the snow, pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and cured cancer in their spare time. Not everyone has the same constitution or abilities. What one person blows off, another takes to heart. Being a teen today is much more complicated than when I grew up. They have many temptations and dangers we never had to face. Even bullying is different today. It is now a cottage industry that shows no signs of abating. Home is no longer safe. Kids can be taunted with texts, facebook and all manner of media 24 hours a day. Very few people can stand up to that kind of relentless onslaught. These aren’t the days of just getting shoved into a locker. Shame on all of you that have chalked this up to needing attention, bad parenting or women’s lib. Your ignorance is showing and it isn’t pretty. Kudos to the YV students who intervened. You’ve showed that great, caring teens are alive and well at any school or district.

91 CV Class 91 March 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM

There are many valid points being posted (some stated a little
nicer than others). However, if this kid wasn’t looking for the attention
this generated, than what was the point. I’m not sold on the idea
they had no one to turn to. There is just way too much access to
information ( anonomusly, I might add) that help could have been
sought by this young person.
Yes, times are ‘different’ then when most of us who post on here
grew up, SERIOUSLY ! Let’s just bottom line this…hold these kids
accountable for their actions. If you’re going to have kids PARENT
Sure some kids have it tougher than others, thats just the way life
is sometimes, but if you’re taking take of business at home your kid
should know how to act and treat someone they see who doesn’t
have the same opportunities they may have.

92 Tinkerbell March 3, 2012 at 7:21 AM

My child is one of the students that stopped him, my kids go on claycord a lot to so please be sensitive and be careful of the comments you are writing and think first. They are all children who look to us adults as role models, when you write comments that are derogatory or negetive remember somebody might really take them to heart. How can you stop kids from picking on someone when the adults are doing it? Prayers to his family.

93 Cruella March 3, 2012 at 8:42 AM

@ Elizabeth. Amen.

Some youngsters simply do not “fit in” for a myriad of reasons. This can be traumatic to a teen. Peer acceptance is very important at that age. There could be a number of issues that we don’t know about.

Bottom line, I’m glad to hear he is going to be okay. Best wishes to him and his family and friends, particularly those who took action to help.

94 CPHS Mom March 3, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Thank you Tinkerbell for pointing out what should be obvious. Please show some compassion for this poor boy! I was watching KRON 4 this morning and two students from YV were interviewed. They were two very well spoken and compassionate students. They had great concern and empathy for this boy. Let’s try to write with the same empathy.

95 angelique March 3, 2012 at 9:10 AM

can someone please tell this kid to meet with me at praise chapel pittsburg on 3837 railroad avenue ; on 03/09/12 at 7 pm ,which is our youth group . Praise Chapel has open arms for anyone who is hurting on the inside or out, if anyone knows that they need God & a savior in their life then come on youth & Sundays
@ 11 am Gods calling the ones who read this so please come & check it out , get saved & walk with God . this is from Angelique a 14 year old girl who can never stop believing in God & showing his love to the world . God Bless<3

96 ANONYMOUS March 3, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Tinkerbell said it well. Years ago I stopped trying to “educate”people here about depression and suicide, until you’ve been there, you have no idea. I just wish people would stop passing judgement like there’s lots of help, there’s no reason to do it, it’s selfish – as unless you’ve been there, you have no idea how alone one could feel at that time. No idea. It is beyond the depth of what you can even imagine because you haven’t been there. It’s not rational (to us), but please stop judging, this is a very serious issue that deserves more respect. If you don’t understand it, or can’t fathom ever feeling so alone, then please let’s just wish all the best in recovery for this child, his family, his friends and classmates. We all want our kids healthy and happy, unfortunately for some, it is a struggle, and we need to be supportive, not casting judgement or blame. May you never feel this pain, or endure the pain of a loved one in so much despair.

97 Cowellian March 3, 2012 at 9:23 AM

I had a close friend in eighth grade who committed suicide over Christmas Break. It was really uncommon back then, and it was hard for me to understand what drove him to do it.

If this had been an adult, I would have agreed with CVCHS Parent, but I hold children to different standards than adults for a lot of issues. And I do think it is harder to be a child today.

98 me March 3, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Im Thinking That the CVHS parents that are being heartless are the parents of the bullies at CVH Good job you should be proud of your kids….NOT!

99 goodheart March 3, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Teenagers see things through underdeveloped emotional minds. One day seems so bad and the next it could be great. Our enviroment and how we all, as adults talk and relate to them is what shapes them, especially at home as parents. So listen, talk to and experience your kids, your grandkids, your neighbors kids. Lets help shape a better place, more positive place for these kids to grow and go forward. God Bless the kids who steped in and the family. God Bless the student and hope he get the understanding he needs, not judgement!!

100 Z's Mom March 3, 2012 at 10:17 AM

@ Tinkerbell, thank goodness your child was there to help stop the student. Also, I couldn’t agree with you anymore. Good Post!

101 Mec17 March 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Tinerbell, please thank them for their heroism. I have kids at CVHS and I cannot imagine.

102 Speaking of cheating ... March 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM

To CVCHS Parent

I know several kids who attended to Clayton Valley and graduated several years ago. There were several suicides and suicide attempts by CVHS students during their 4 years attending school there — so don’t think Clayton Valley students are immune to these types of issues.

103 Anon . March 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM

To CVCHS Parent

I know several kids who attended to Clayton Valley and graduated several years ago. There were several suicides and suicide attempts by CVHS students during their 4 years attending school there — so don’t think Clayton Valley students are immune to these types of issues.

104 Anonymous March 3, 2012 at 10:59 AM

@CVCHS Parent = Ignorant…enough said!

My child was in the classroom with this child when it happened. I have to say that the YV Administration and MDUSD both acted quickly, responsibly and professionally in assuring this child was helped and parents were notified. My applause goes out to the kids that took action to help. This is a very scary scene to have witnessed and they should truly be commended. Also, take advantage of counseling services being offered if this has affected you in any way.

105 Sad March 3, 2012 at 11:27 AM

I feel sorry 4 the teen & his family. Hopefully, he will get the help he so desperately needs.
However, for teens w/o depression, life really isnt that hard. Go volunteer for a summer at an orphanage in Kenya and then tell me how hard life is. We as Americans have it so easy compared to the rest of the world.

106 Can anybody give us an idea March 3, 2012 at 12:10 PM

of what happened? No names, but just an idea? I’m assuming their wasn’t a weapon involved, nor a rope, so was he cutting himself?

I’m just trying to envision the scene and how the others came to his aid.


107 Stealthy Mama March 3, 2012 at 12:19 PM

I hope this kid gets a lot of help and support that will completely erase the memory of himself attempting to take on his life and just focus on thinking that each day is a brand a new day. Think positive & don’t think too much about the problems that’s goin’ on in one’s life. Just take it one day at a time.

108 Teacher wannabe March 3, 2012 at 12:31 PM

@Anon #47. To paraphrase Sean Connery in “The Untouchables”. Who would claim to be that when they are not.

109 #1mom March 3, 2012 at 12:35 PM

@ cvchs you do not know what this kid is going through your school is no better so think before you speak.

110 Panic isn't logged in March 3, 2012 at 12:41 PM

You guys are so ignorant; suicidal feelings can affect anyone at any point in time, and the student in question was perfectly valid with his feelings. I wish they went and talked to someone about it though. We don’t know anything about the student, so how can we judge them? For all we know, they could have grown up in an abusive environment, and felt there was no way out. They might have been burdened with the weight of the world, God only knows I feel like that often enough.

Why don’t the ignorant screwheads go volunteer for a crisis center, because you’re just going to sit on your rich white asses and complain here on claycord, anyways. Go deal with some trauma secondhand, and I can promise you’ll feel differently.

111 Concordian March 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Cry me a river. This kid is just an attention junkie. I’m going through difficult times, so is everybody else. Should have done it at home so that nobody could save them.

112 Real Clayton Parent March 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Why do you believe that “CVCHS Parent” #11 is really a Clayton Valley Parent? I am putting money on Troll or Hater.

113 Doogie March 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM

I love these people that come on here and every time they don’t agree with something being said or it’s not in their “reality” They say all you LIBS! Yeah thats what this kid needed some more good old fashioned Republican Christianity! They are always so loving and caring.

114 ~M~ March 3, 2012 at 4:02 PM

@ #23″ What is hard about being a teen?”
You don’t have to be a trouble maker or into drugs or be in with the bad crowd to find being a teen difficult. That is great that you avoided getting raped/molested, abused at home, you always had food on the table, all the adults in the home were employed, your parents didn’t get divorced or if they did… you took it SO well. You were never bullied or made fun of. I am glad all of your FB friends avoided tragedies and difficult times. Even kids who act like angels and follow the rules can get depressed or have something in their life that happened that they can’t deal with emotionally. Not every child is so fortunate or equipped to cope. At least you were right about one thing… that you are puzzled, and do not “get” it.

115 Daisy March 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Concordian, it is people and kids like you that causes these awful events. The lack of empathy in our schools and community have become rampant. I can’t even relate to your chilling and heartless declaration. I pray you’re not a parent because your lack of compassion has surely been passed down to your children. Perhaps it is your “difficult times” that have led you to make such a vile and “attention getting” statement. Get help.

116 CHHRISTINE March 3, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Dear Parents of this teen,
Tell him you love him every day.
Don’t ever not know where he is.
Find out why and don’t expect a doctor or a pill to completely fix it.
A parent’s love is not replaceable with a stranger or a pill.

117 Tinkerbell March 3, 2012 at 6:09 PM

I am really disappointed in some of the comments being made, I am so proud of my son for what he did, where as some of the adults on here probably wouldn’t have done anything to stop this kid from harming himself. It’s a shame that instead of looking at the positive that he is getting the help he needs, people want to blame him for his actions. He is a child, and maybe didn’t have a support system in place to help him cope. Instead of beating him down like a bully would do, be thankful that he is ok. Would you be making these same comments if it was your child, sibling, niece or nephew?

118 skippy March 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM

I think everybody needs to calm down before they burst a blood vessel.

119 anon March 3, 2012 at 6:58 PM

I knew this kid in middle school. He was always very hard on himself. Myself and most of the school knew this. While I was not mean to him at all, I could have given him more attention. I know this has happened in other places so I should just always do this, but this incident has in a way inspired me to give more attention to others and be especially nice.

120 ana March 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Nobody should assume to know what motivated this young person to act as he did. I’ve had plenty of days when I felt down, but never to the point of wanting to end my life. I can’t even imagine what despair like that must feel like. For that I am thankful, and I feel compassion for everyone who was personally affected by this.

121 mika March 3, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Note MDUSD always has counselors available for school crises after the fact. Why can’t they have counselors available to students BEFORE a crises occurs.

122 commoncents March 3, 2012 at 7:16 PM

121 – because we spend more money on Prisons than education and it’s support structure – oh yea – let’s put some more of those weed smokers away….

by the way anyone who posts anything but support for this young student is one sick mf’er. Looks like there’s a few out here.

123 Anon March 3, 2012 at 7:25 PM

This is very sad. This CHILD needs love and support right now.

I am very curious how the child attempted this in a classroom during class. I am a teacher and am very aware of what is going on my class. Where was the teacher when this happened? I do understand how every situation can be different. I don’t put blame on the teacher at all as I don’t know any of the details. I just can’t help but wonder.

124 CVCHS Student March 3, 2012 at 7:49 PM

@CVCHS Parent.

Never in my entire life have I felt more ashamed of a parent. You are the one who is selfish. All of my heart goes out to the family of the student who attempted suicide. Any student could be going through something like this and I feel as though we should try to help as much as possible. I do understand why this student would feel the need to take their own life, but I also understand that it is absolutely necessary to help the ones who have this feeling. What some students classify as “sad” may be absolute agony to other students, so please have a heart and try to see all sides of the story. And besides, this could’ve been your student, or your child’s friend, or even your own son/daughter.

125 The Dude March 3, 2012 at 9:02 PM

@ Tinkerbell

We got it already… you son helped a fellow student. You can stop patting yourself on the back… he did what any human would have done. And while we’re gettin’ real, let’s all admit what this ‘suicide attempt’ truly was… a troubled teen screaming for attention. Anyone who actually wanted to kill themselves would not do it in a crowded 6th period classroom. This is a non-story.

126 Daisy March 3, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Don’t waste another minute thinking about this comment section. It is disturbing that some people can be so judgemental and unfeeling but you’ll notice they are distinctly in the minority. Your son is obviously a kind and moral young man. You should take enormous pride in his compassion and willingness to help someone in such a crucial situation. I hope you have more of his kind at home. As you can see, the world needs them.

127 Susanne Renner March 3, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Thank you to all who took the time to have compassion for the situation. My brother attempted suicide when he was in high school and I was the one who rescued him from the rope. If people took the time to get to know one another and realize we have much more in common than we do differences we can begin to have connections and not feel lonely or separate or isolated. Kids and adults…..

128 Perry March 3, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Maybe if EVERYONE practiced being nice to everyone, we wouldn’t be reading stories like this in the first place.

129 teeg March 3, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Angelique I don’t think I saw anyone yet comment on what a sweet thing that was that you wrote. I actually went to church tonight with my Mom it was all she wanted for her 63rd birthday, I hadn’t been in a LONG time. Towards the end they had anyone who was going through an especially hard time to raise their hand, then they had everyone near them rest a hand on their shoulder for the rest of the service, I know it was only symbolic but it was really uplifting. I know prayer doesn’t cure mental ills but it made me think that maybe giving someone a symbolic pat on the shoulder can make all the difference in their world

130 d complete March 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

How did the kid attempt suicide? Lets get to the f-ing bottom of this. We all want to know. So if your kid helped rescue the boy, then tell us what freaking happened! We can go on and on about police chases or fires on here, but we can get no clarity on a kid trying to kill himself in front of about 30 other kids! Come on man.

131 Marni March 4, 2012 at 9:36 PM

When you attempt it in front of people, it is a cry for attention, sympathy. He was probably scared to do it alone. I get a strong feeling someone did him, wrong, be it a classmate, teacher or girlfriend. Yes, life is tough, but never worth ending. I hope they give him the anger management and counseling he needs.

132 Mik March 5, 2012 at 12:08 AM

It very well could have been a cry for attention, or maybe a desperate cry for help. From what I understand after reading the comments, this young man was bullied. Bullying is a horrible and vicious act that makes a huge impact on the person being bullied. Its a sad, sad generation now. Who knows why he did what he did, but at least he’s getting help. Let this be a lesson learned to show the people you love, that you love and care about them everyday, you never know how they’re really feeling. Depression and suicide are no joke. Hopefully the kid heals and thank goodness for the kids who helped out of the goodness of their hearts. Very brave of them to help.

133 Hotdoggirl March 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Since you need to know the gory details to satisfy your sick hunger for other people’s pain – He was only in 9th grade and he tried to kill himself by slashing his wrists and throat with a pair of scissors. The school is holding a meeting today to address the issue and hopefully prevent this from happening on campus in the future. Hats off to the students that jumped in to help and the staff and parents who continue to offer their support!

134 NormalPerson March 5, 2012 at 12:56 PM

If you try to kill yourself and fail you now have a real reason to kill yourself. grow up and deal with the people around you. i was bullied as a kid and i survived. its life, get over it. kids these days are such drama queens, they cant handle a little bullying and tormenting. its high school, theres nice people and mean people. stick with your own kind and learn to deal with it. if you dont want to be made fun of then change who you are.

135 G March 5, 2012 at 1:09 PM

When a person feels Helpless, Hopeless and Overwhelmed they shut down and isolate. If a person asks “how ya doin’ ” they may say “fine”. Coping skills vary and, from what I have seen, schools do a poor job of education in the area of mental health until a crisis or incident happens.

136 i was bullied March 5, 2012 at 1:55 PM

“i was bullied as a kid and i survived”
Look at that statement and the entire post, why the small letter i ?
I would say after reading your post, You Were effected.

137 Jean March 5, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Horrified to see the emotional zombies are still weighing in. Bullying is different today plus you have no idea what the child’s home life is like. You are not a “normal person”. Clearly, as Jennifer Aniston would say, you have an emotional chip missing. All situations are different. There is no one size fits all response to these situations. Grow a heart, those who have criticized this CHILD. Walk in his shoes and then shoot off your mouths about how you would respond. Your posts aren’t any different from the torture he received at school. I guess it proves bullies never grow out of their behavior.

138 TT March 5, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Bullying does have quite an effect on you. I was bullied in middle school and had some counseling which helped a lot. Thankfully I have a great family… but now in college I am having an extremely hard time with self esteem. It seems like ever since being bullied my self esteem goes up and down and now I’m very sensitive with anything.

It’s sad that these parents are the ones teaching their children to be so hateful and heartless. I’m glad there are some good people out there and so they happen to be at YV.. I went to YV and not everyone there were a bunch of losers with no heart..

139 mom March 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM

My own daughter has been faced with bullying so I can understand the situation this student was in. She decided to stand up and ended up losing some friends because of this but we wanted to support her. The reality is that there is more bullying going on in middle and high school these days then is talked about and with Facebook and Twitter it’s made it even easier. Just recently my daughter has some girls talking about her on one of the social networks. Of course they were very indirect about it but it was clearly obvious. My heart goes out to the student and his family and I pray that they will be able to overcome this soon.

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