“Water Cooler” Poll: Would you support a citywide smoking ban in Concord?
September 28, 2011 12:00 pm
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Heck yes. I don’t like getting a faceful of smoke walking down the street. Enforcement might be difficult, and there would be some costs – but it is something I’d vote to make happen.
is smoking rude? yes.
is it harming you? no. ask the person to put it out or move. you are more likely to get cancer from your cleaning products and processed foods than passing by a diluted puff of smoke.
stop stripping away our freedoms just because you were mildly offended. focus on important issues.
Mine as well ban hotdog sales cuz theyre bad and I don’t like it!! while we’re at it concord, lets ban walking too slow in public. Lets ban mcdonalds and burger king. Let’s ban talking to loud in public. Lets ban kids walking to school. Lets ban Lets ban let’s ban let’s ban. Let’s ban free choice and become a whole new dictator ran city.
I smoke. I understand the consequences. I’m polite enough to never do it near kids or crowds in public. (such as todo santos area) BUT just because I DO something that others don’t do or like shouldn’t give u the right to tell me where I can and can’t in PUBLIC, Or just not at all in the vacancy of the open air of concord. This is a very debatable situation. But this city isn’t ran by Hitler. THIS IS THE LAND OF THE FREE. no matter if the smokers smoke, the drinkers drink or the fatties want their fast food.
Freedom is everything no matter what.
Next thing you know concords gonna build free luxary housing for illegal immigrants.
Thats my simple 2 cents put in. I could give 100$ but I gotta get back to work. Have a great day claycordians! =) fellow 27 year old that’s has grown up here.
I voted no and if I could, I’d find out where the sponsors of this idea lived. Then I’d park myself in front of their houad and eat a gigantic bacon cheesburger (cause I know these people have to be vegans) and smoke the biggest smelliest cigar I can find.
Second-hand smoke. Aside from the fact that I have to breathe it if the smoker is near me, it simply stinks to high Heaven. Add to that it forever remains on clothes rarely washed. Smokers attempt to masquerade the odor by spraying themselves with perfume or after shave. So then it turns to smelling stale smoke with a wide variety of OTC cheap sprays. Seeing someone driving with the cigarette in hand dangling outside the car window is a hilarity in itself — especially as they exhale in their car. They just don’t get it …
167 votes and no comments? OK, so here goes. I’m a smoker. It’s gross. Bad for my health. I don’t even like the smell of it!!! I should have the same rights as a non smoker, right? I work hard. Pay my taxes, which includes public property!
I feel there should be something on the books to protect the people that make a health conscious decision not to smoke, smoke free! But screwing us smokers all together is not a reasonable solution.
Cheers!
Because I don’t already have enough people telling me what to do
Here’s something very twisted & sick! “They” say that second hand smoke is worse than first hand smoke because we smokers tend to build up a tolerance after a while that non smokers don’t. “They” say that the pollution in the east bay has now gotten worse than second hand smoke! So does that mean that I’m smoking for my health?
Cheers!
@ #3 Totally agree with you! I don’t smoke but grew up in a family who did. I don’t like it but as long as someone doesnt blow the smoke directly in my face I am ok and it is their right to smoke. At what point do we draw the line at what City Government can tell us what we can and can’t do??
I think all the smokers should get into their cars, light up and drive around the park on Thursday night for a few hours in protest.
OH NO!!! what is next, a ban on farting?
This is from the last thread on this issue.
The common perception I get with supporters of this ban is that smokers maliciously “blow smoke” into the faces and lungs of the poor non smokers and that this entire 17 block area is full of smokers that are poisoning everyone … and that the Council members are concerned about the health of all citizens of Concord. Cmon folks, let’s be honest with ourselves. Do you really belive that? I don’t smoke or like the smell of smoke either, but is that worth putting another new ridiculous law in the books and then having to enforce it? Do you really believe that your body can filter all the garbage you (and I) put into your mouths in the form of “non healthy” food, but can’t filter cigarette smoke and odors that have been mixed with billions of cubic feet of fresh air?
To those of you that have health issues related to smoke, I’ll bet if you were subjected to smoke and asked or told a smoker to move somewhere else … Or god forbid, moved yourself, the issue would be resolved almost every time, no law required, no fine necessary, no signs needed. Critical thinking folks, critical thinking.
By the way, almost every time you step into a public building there is a sign that says there may be cancer causing materials present . If the 5 council members really gave a crap about you they’d fix that problem …. It’s all done as was mentioned in the previous thread, to be able to control and fine you $$$$ while feeling good that they’re doing something good for us minions!
Question:
What is the actual precent of smokers to nonsmokers?
It seems the pole should reflect the number of actual smokers to non-smokers.
It is amazing to me that a little “lead” in kids toys and the country goes wild.
But, only 1/2 million people die every year from tobacco – plus another
1/2 million get some type “respitory problems -especially kids.
Abolutely! I hate second hand smoke. It makes my asthma act up, my hair & clothes smell and it causes cancer. People should chew tabacco as they would only be killing themselves and not others around them.
I don’t smoke, but I don,t support a city-wide ban on smoking, either. Today it’s smoking. Tomorrow it could be.singing in public, or choclate malts. Concord is creating the foundation for an autocratic society, and I’d be scared!
I’ve never really had any problems with smokers out in public. If I see someone smoking, I’ll make an effort to go around them or at least hold my breath as I walk by. I grew up in a house where my mom smoked two packs of cigarettes a day. As a child, I had asthma and the second-hand smoke made it incredibly difficult to breathe not to mention it turned curtains and walls yellow and made clothes stink. I still have a problem breathing today when I’m around smoke, purfume or other strong chemicals.
My only complaint with smokers is the one who live next door to me. The wife won’t let the SOB smoke inside, so she makes him go outside. I can’t simply shut my window or sliding glass door because the apartment gets blazing hot. I think if people want to smoke, that’s fine. Just do it in your own home and don’t subject others to the smell when you live in multi-dwelling housing.
I supported a citywide ban of the City of Concord for years… the rest of you should do the same.
wow this is an issiue that needs no attention im sorry but it doesn’t…..there are much more important things….and on top of that were suppose to b free right? right. so if me or anybody else wants to smoke, drink, drive, eat, sleep, have sex, do drugs or anything it is there choice as long as it doesnt hurt anybody…..now some wills say second hand smoke is bad and hurts you….well in all honesty you are very simple minded and have a very primitive knowlege of what is around and in you, and everything today. if you ban smoking you need to ban cars…peroid cars pollute and damage your lungs more than a ciggrette.theres a whole list that will go on forever. this is an infringement on the constittution of our rights as human beings more and more of our rights are being taken away right under our noses too……so i vote no on this….people need to WAKE UP and get a grip on reality not this false materialistic reality that were in…..and if people believe that global warming is because of cars and smoking whatever else we do to this planet is rediculous im sorry but its not just global warming its the whole solar system that is experencing this as well look it up….it make no sense to me that theres is to much co2 being put into our atmosphere and is harmfull to us….lol the four fundementals of life on this plant is carbon dioxide, oxygen,water and sunlight so how is it that its getting to the point where it dangerous now? No that atmospheric level of co2 is 0.01% ok plants and trees are thriving off of this but we cut down millions of acers of forest and jungles, and we can grow a yearly crop(industrial hemp) to produce the same as those trees and more…makes no sense to me so the question is do you believe in global warming and are you willing to pay tax for one of the four fundemntals of life on this planet?
Smoker’s are a drain on Obamacare. I don’t want my Tax dollars wasted on people with a death wish. I also don’t want my Tax dollars wasted on Policing Smokers. Go after real crime.
And if you’re a smoker – Make an Adult decision to Quit.
Yes, ban it! It’s the one bad habit that really affects other people. I have never had a single puff of tobacco and I don’t want to inhale anybody else’s either.
I say ban non-smokers from walking around in public.
@Palermo then stop touching door handles, driving, eating, cleaning and living u wuss.
No. Bad idea. I don’t smoke, but I’m tired of government telling the people what they can and can’t do. Today it’s smoking. What will it be tomorrow? Besides, how would this be enforced? About as well as the noise ordinance? Let’s have the city demonstrate that they can enforce the laws already on the books before new ones are added.
Final point – this ban would likely end up in court and the smokers will win. So it would just cost concord a bunch of tax money to defend a bad decision. Better not make the decision at all.
I’m a non-smoker and totally against this. SICK to DEATH of the government in our business and making more and more stupid laws! People do shit all day long that I don’t like but too bad, that’s life. Deal with it!
I would support a city-wide ban on urine and feces smelling transients, morons with their pants dragging on the ground, city officials who do nothing, pitt bulls, smoking, farting, yelling at your kids, gang bangers, illegal immigrants, dumb-ass democrats, bleeding heart liberals…and the list goes ones on. Flagstaff is looking better all the time.
I certainly do not like to smell cigarette smoke, but I’m more upset by cigars (they’re putrid!). However, I can’t say I’ve noticed much smoking going on in Concord, at least not so that I would advocate banning smoking.
Whenever something is banned, it just becomes more interesting to people. It seems to work best to ostracize those who engage in unpleasant behaviors: When they feel dumb doing it, they eventually stop.
For the record, I’m not one filled with a bunch of sanctimony because I’m a non-smoker. The only reason WHY I’m a non-smoker is because my former boss — the founder and publisher of the Times — would sermon me every single day back on his way to the cafeteria in the early 1980s (when smoking was allowed in the workplace).
The gal seated next to me had a fan positioned right at me. No matter.
But three months after I quit smoking the one thing I discovered was that second-hand smoke reeked — and nothing could be done to disguise it.
I was smoking when a pack cost 25 to 50 cents. What are they now? $3.00 to $4.00? It’s healthier to shred the lotto tickets I buy. : )
Outlaw tobacco and legalize grass.
Ridiculous….. I am a smoker so obviously I don’t support this. Any responsible adult who is a smoker and has respect for others knows better than to blow their smoke into someone face. If I’m standing outside smoking a cigarette and someone is about to walk by I step to the side so they don’t have to inhale my cloud.
I get it at park and 20 ft from a doorway but when it becomes a ban in public areas that’s taking it too far. I am a legal US citizen that pays taxes (also pays the added taxed when buying a pack) but I feel like criminal every time I light up.
Its illegal to smoke inside your apartment because it can leak into other apartments via the vents…. So I can’t smoke inside and can smoke outside In a public place..? Where can I smoke? In my car?
Sorry for the many typos …but you guys get my point.
Correction: *So I can’t smoke inside and can’t smoke outside*
If people want to smoke do it in your own home or car,not in public.
I don’t smoke, but knowing that smoking is banned in this area makes me sick to my stomach. It makes me sick to see the majority happy to oppress the minority this way. I know you don’t care how I feel. You don’t care how anyone feels but yourself.
There are people just as ruthless as you out there and they don’t care how you feel either. It’s sad that we as a society aren’t protecting each other from this kind of oppression. You shouldn’t be jumping on the bandwagon of mob rule. You should be rising to the defense of the minority just to ensure fairness.
Limitations on smoking are fair, allowing both smokers and non-smokers to share the inconvenience of living together equally. It should not be only the smokers who are inconvenienced. Banning smoking outright is not a compromise. It is not fair. It is just wrong. How about we ban YOU next. Maybe we should ban elitist snobs who think only their way is right. Maybe if we can get a majority to agree that cell phones in todos santos are annoying we should ban those. I think if we pressed hard enough we could get that passed.
It’s sad. It’s sick that you think it’s ok to push people out of your society who are doing something that’s only mildly discomforting. I don’t feel comfortable under your oppressive weight and I’m sure you will be happy that I don’t join you in your self-imposed slavery by degree. You won’t find me going to todos santos anymore. I used to like it but not after this. You are sick.
Sure. Ban all smoking. No tobacco, no pot, no BBQ joints, no burning food at home, no fireplaces, no wood heaters, no oil-burning motors (lawn mowers, chainsaws, leaf blowers), no incense, no electing a pope. That will make it easier for the neighbors to report each other. The citizenry thus occupied, the rest of us will be able to travel quickly through Concord on our way to someplace civilized.
Oh, and congratulations to the city for resolving its rampant crime problems, thereby leaving the police free to write revenue-generating smoking citations. Will they patrol directly across from the no-smoking area to catch people crossing the street?
To Freedom and others…
First, I am an occasional smoker and former full-time smoker and AS A RULE I don’t like laws restricting what I do. HOWEVER it is well known that tobacco and cigarettes are HIGHLY ADDICTIVE and very detrimental to our health. You mention self-imposed slavery, and really that’s what I think MY relationship with tobacco is. Addiction, slavery, call it what you will. All smokers are slaves to tobacco. Not trying to offend anyone, just my opinion.
Banning smoking is fine with me.
We should just outlaw the product all together considering the amount of money we have to subsidize the tobacco farmers and the amount of money that is spent on smoking related health care issues.
In fact we are starting to see companies either outright not hiring smokers or looking at the proposition of not hiring smokers because of the related costs.
For those who say that they have a right to smoke and interfere with other people and that people who don’t like it can just walk somewhere else, I doubt most of those folks would be so accepting if someone came up and sprayed stuff in their personal space and I told them, well if you don’t like it, walk the other way because I have a right to spray stuff around – even if it is a known carcinogenic.
What’s the cancer rate of tobacco compared to marijuana.
Lemme guess – We have no statistics.
Lets ban barking yappers and bell ringing in the city too. I mean really…….if I can buy a pack of cigarettes at the store (legally) i can smoke them in public. I’ll challenge the constitutionality of a smoking ban and win!!! And I don’t even smoke………..tabacco.
I’ll never buy anything in Concord again.
“D”, gee what a pleasant person you are. I’m a wuss cause I don’t want to get cancer? I lost two dear friends to it, so maybe you can see my point, although I doubt it.
This would be incredibly stupid (not to mention overly intrusive and broadly unenforceable). More people would smoke inside and consequently more people (including kids) would get serious second-hand smoke exposure, not the occasional unpleasant whiff. Seriously, use your heads, people. Not everybody has a yard to smoke in – do you think passing this ban would just magically free every apartment-dwelling smoker from his or her addiction? Talk about the law of unintended consequences – I would be completely shocked if this didn’t have a significant negative effect on public health.
Oh Goody! While the cops and courts are using up all the resources to deal with smoking “offenders,” the gangs can take over and finish the job they started ruining Concord!
I don’t smoke and think peoples rights are taken away by BS political people, downtown coordinators and people with there heads up there as@. I will stop going downtown for the reason they have not right to decide what and when the common persons can or should do. I hope the downtown business assoication likes your decision, I for one will NOT be visiting you downtown again.
Fine with me. Long as I can still bring my pitbulls.
i posted this one the other thread about the approved ban as well…
wow.. just… wow. Do we *really* need more laws controlling our behaviors and criminalizing legal acts.. have we become so inept at dealing with one another that it’s come to this? First of all, most of the people I know who smoke try to go out of their way to avoid their smoke affecting other people. I’ve seen a handful of people ask others to move because the smoke was bothering them. Is it really that difficult? Not to mention, once again, all of the relevant posts above mine that point out all of the other harmful products we subject our bodies to on a daily basis.
Everyone wants to whine and complain about this “nanny state” and this is a PERFECT example of it. Normally I don’t resort to snark, but I think it’s time for the residents of concord to put on their grown up panties and deal with things like adults in a respectful manner. We can start practicing here!
Yes, ban it. There are plenty of limits on our freedoms. And, you don’t have the right to poison me or my family. I’d like to see a total ban on smoking within a specified number of feet of a child under the age of 16, too. No smoking indoors with kids, either. Go ahead and kill yourself, but you shouldn’t be able to take others with you.
Administrators at the high schools can’t stop students from smoking at school then how are CPD goingt to enforce the smoking ban?
- Jumps on “NO” bandwagon –
Let’s ban people with body odor that forget to use deodorant. Oh, and let’s ban people with bad breath, that’s offensive too. Let’s ban public farting. Basically, let’s ban people who don’t look, think and act like we do. Personally, I would personally like to ban inconsiderate drivers and out-of-control alcoholics. Whilst we’re at it, let’s ban people who have an IQ of 100 or less. Oh wait, that’s half the population!
Personally, I would love to ban controlling people who have nothing better to do than put their noses into other people’s business!
We would do better to ban tweakers from the city. That would do a lot to alleviate crime and increase quality of living (less burglaries of homes, cars, etc., less vandalism).
Will this particular ban change anything? Yes. The police will use their time and resources enforcing this ban against these cigarette smoking “criminals.” I don’t know about you, but I think their resources are stretched pretty thin as it is. Trust me, there are bigger fish to fry here.
Land of the free, right? Good grief.
I really, really, really, really, hate smoking. HOWEVER, I’m being forced to be a strange bedfellow with the hated smokers on this. The cost/benefit ratio of loss of freedoms/no more smoke is starting to tip past tolerable levels. Smokers have brought it upon themselves with their despicable behavior, but now it is creating a regulatory fad in government that worries me. Murder, theft, assault, BAD. That’s what we should want our government to be authoritarian about. Smoking, saggy pants, loud pipes, yoga pants, people just need to behave. Knock off the smoking. It’s retarded. Switch to herion so you stop stinking up the joint.
No, I wouldn’t place a ban on smoking. I’m not a smoker myself but I have friends that do smoke. I grew up when smoking wasn’t stigmatized as it is today. It’s supposed to be a free country. Until they criminalize smoking or the purchase of tobacco products people should be allowed to smoke. You can ban smoking from commercial establishments and that is fine. Each shop owner has a right to decide for him/herself if smoking is allowed in the shop. Government needs to stop micro managing our lives. It’s known of their business. If I want to die a slow painful death from lung cancer that is my business (and my family’s) not the government.
yes, and ban annoying, loud children who are whining or screaming or are otherwise dirty and spreading their germs about. Also ban cellphone use, spitting, dressing in any manner that might offend another person, car stereos, car alarms, gum chewing, etc. et al. A city in which everyone is looking for a reason to report their neighbor for criminal acts is a polite city.
Well then…goodbye Todo Santo’s Plaza and especially the Spaghetti Factory. So sucks on so many levels.
hahahaha! “I say ban non-smokers from walking around in public.”
America is becoming more an more communist each year. You darn Natzis!
What happened to America being the home of the FREE? Let’s ban people walking too slow while we are at it! If this ban passes I would love to sit outside the people house the people who vote “I”, an smoke a big stinky cigar an then smoke a pack.
I met this woman in a bar & she ask me “Honey, does you smoke after sex?” I told her ” I don’t know …… I never looked”.
I’ll be damned if Bjerke and his fascist minions are going to keep me from smoking wherever I want.
This is just like when he tried to push through the Canterbury Village Design Guidelines.
54: umm yu do kno that bjerky is not on the council anymore?!
he is running the “gouge the taxpayer” committee..
yu must now change yur name to “bjerke is a socialist”
lol, are you all kidding me, residents and businesses are looking for forward to this downtown ban. I have not met one neighbor or friend that thinks otherwise. It’s gross period, people that smoke are gross period, usually they are poor too so the financial impact on them not going downtown is no biggy.
No one is taking your right to smoke away, you just have to do it at home. But that’s like everything else.
I think the C.P.D. and police in general, have enough laws to deal with, laws that aren’t enforced enough. I’m not a smoker, never have been, but I’m tired of all the new laws and ordinances that keep being piled one on top of the other over all of us. For instance – enter John F. Baldwin Park walking from Port Chicago Highway near the corner of Bonifacio There must be ten different poles there sporting signs of all the different things you CANNOT do in this park. Literally, it’s a FOREST of NO! NO! poles. NO BICYCLES! NO SKATES OR SKATEBOARDS! NO LOUD MUSIC! (Will it wake up the homeless who sleep there, bother the squirrels and/or birds who are nesting, irritate the basketball players who want to listen to other music???) NO DOGS OFF LEASH! NO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES! NO HARDBALLS, NO GOLF! NO REMOTE CONTROL AIRPLANES! CONSTRUCTION WORKERS CAN – CANNOT – CAN PARK HERE, no, THERE, no, HERE… It’s comical but sad at the same time. It’s a large park. Kids can’t ride their bikes, you can’t open skates and try them out Christmas morning. You can’t walk through with your boom-box. No scooters, no tricycles, no wagons, and of course, NO SMOKING! They must have forgotten that other dangerous wheeled beast, the babystroller… give it time! We’re being lawed to death. Who sits around and thinks up these things all day, and why don’t we get a say in it?
mod – please delete #55 and leave amended #56 – thanks
@4: yeah, because that really helps your image and solves all the problems leading up to this point. you do that.
what? learn self-discipline? but this is AMERICA! we should be able to shit in the street if we want to!!1!!!11one
voted no, because even if it did pass, it’d never happen. waste of police efforts, as well. should just pass a rule that smokers should have to cover their faces with a paper bag.
Noxious tobacco smoke invades our RIGHT to breathe clean air when we are walking in the public parts of an extremely small area in the center of MY town. (Remember that there will be designated smoking areas.) And the medical problems smoking causes is making our insurance premiums go up and up to cover those who claim not to have enough money to buy their own health insurance (but who spend more than that on their sacrosanct cigs).
Downtown sidewalks are so filthy that it makes everything look “seedy”, so much so that a private business is graciously paying to have our sidewalks pressure-washed. The cigarette butts and the nicotine, tarry blobs on the sidewalks are gross, and the City of Concord (that’s each of us who pay taxes) has to pay workers to pick up after the cigarette butts and wrapper trash all over downtown, not only in the park following market days and other events.
The Concord Police Department is patrolling that area anyway, so no police resources will be diminished when they enforce this smoking ban. I strongly support the decision made by the City Council.
What I’d like to know is when the city council is going to vote on a ban on homeless drunks, cranked out white trash, gangbangers, & average everyday mexican families in the downtown area? If you’re going to spend the already weak resources that the city (barely) has to enforce smoking, then what will be next? And how soon? They could really clean up the Todos Santos area and make it just like Walnut creek’s downtown if they keep on voting stupid laws.
I have never smoked in my life, but I was diagnosed with a terrible lung disease a few years ago. I struggle to breathe, some days are worse than others. Even though I choose not to smoke, I am forced to breathe in the smoke that others create when they choose to smoke in close proximity to doorways to buildings. This makes me sick every time with violent choking and coughing as I gasp for oxygen. Most times it end up as a lung infection and takes weeks to heal. I avoid smokers if I see them, but have no choice when I exit buildings. These addicts are completely without empathy to the suffering they cause innocent others. If they must feed their addiction, then at least do it in the privacy of their home or auto and not in the public air. I would like to live a bit longer. Thank you.
Being a lifelong democrat I can no longer support the politicians that VOTE FOR THIS KIND OF CRAP !!! My votes will be going elsewhere than the ones that support erosion of personal freedoms !
The government is not “controlling our rights”…
I like some of the comments below because they link the “banning of cigarettes” to the “banning of food and milk shakes”??? Ummm.. No. First of all, if someone CHOOSES to eat themselves to obesity and maybe death, it doesn’t affect MY health. If it were a close friend, it may affect me emotionally, but nothing else. When I CHOOSE to be a non-smoker because I am very healthy and active, it has NO affect on anyone else but myself. (Smoking destroys your lungs and destroys your stamina.) When a smoker CHOOSES to smoke in public, that smoker is stripping me from my rights. I’ll admit that no one has ever been stupid enough to blow smoke in my face, but you need to remember that it is like a poison that permeates everything in it’s radius. My dad had been a smoker almost all his life and always had difficulty keeping up because he was always short of breath. He had the will power to stop smoking pretty much cold turkey after several years and now he’s almost as active as me! Think about people’s health at risk. And Smoker’s… Think about the responsibility you have when you smoke in public… When you choose to light one up near healthy lungs, you are also making THEIR choice for them.
One more thought… One comment below said, “let the smokers smoke, the drinkers drink, and the fatties eat” yes, I agree. But don’t you know that there is a law, NO DRINKING IN PUBLIC… And like I stated earlier about food, consuming alcohol only affects that one individual. I voted “yes”, but I’m not saying you can’t smoke EVER… Just go enjoy your cig somewhere where I don’t have to… And smokers who usually don’t smoke in public, THANK YOU for being so thoughtful. If others were the same, then this wouldn’t be necessary.
Not a smoker and never have been, but come on stop giving up your rights!
it’s funny that all you folks in support of the ban think you’re breathing in clean air…
Those of you who think that Second Hand Smoke (SHS) is not dangerous have not done your homework and probably think the world is flat. It has been proven that even one exposure can trigger heart attacks, asthma attacks etc…For those of you that think it is a right guaranteed by the constitution, show me where? It is a fact that your rights end where my rights begin, and breathing in tobacco smoke from SHS is actually a violation of my rights.! Those of you that don’t want to be told what to do , well, the prisons are full and I bet you follow most laws. Our side argues in scientific facts your side argues in a fog of BS! Ban them everywhere Concord! Protect the 88% of Contra Costa Residents that do not smoke!
Car exhaust has been proven to be hazardous as well. Would you support a ban on motor vehicles in Downtown Concord?
The BBQ’s at Todos Santos on market days are huge smoke producers. They smell horrible, sickening. Food was meant to be eaten in its normal state, uncooked. Humans are supposed to be vegetarians.
The cruel murder and slaughtering of innocent animals to sustain the greed of humans is against the law of nature. The laws of nature need to be enforced by our elected leaders over any other laws of man.
Okay, I was following you until I got to this line:
“Consuming alcohol only affects that one individual.” What planet are you from? Are you kidding me? Alcoholism if rampant, ruins families, traumatizes children, drunk drivers are a daily (and nightly) hazard. Please get your facts straight.
For one of the comments above:
I agree with you completely that alcohol has those side affects. Other than smoking my dad was an alcoholic. He’s sober now and I’m proud of him. Our family had tough times… I would like to say alcohol/Alcoholism CAN have a DIRECT impact on people whether it be the public or family/friends.
Thank you for pointing that out. Something I know first hand, just blinded by my own rant.
@AD you are a jackass enough said….and all you people that voted yes need to get off your high horse and quit trying to control people sorry to say but you and your families have been minuplated and disinformed your whole lives and are blind the real problems at hand in this life….
@ Jimbo
I never said there weren’t any other problems in the world and no one else is saying that. Did you actually read any of the comments? Everyone was just stating their opinion on the topic whether it was pro or anti. Thats how arguments work. You try to persuade the other side. Doesnt always work though… Oh, and I’m not on a horse. But you sure have opened my eyes Jimbo. I mean, I feel enlightened with your comment. I’m a jackass so I shouldn’t have an opinion that counts. Bravo Jimbo. Bravo. =]
I would not support the ‘No smoking ban”. I think it’s stupid.
I do not smoke. But I know that those who do smoke and who are considerate of those around them (meaning in a large crowd), would respect others. I don’t think that the government should tell those who do smoke where they can smoke and can not smoke… it’s stupid. And those who do like like walking behind or being on the side of a smoker because they wind blows smoke in their face, then move…. that’s what I do.
This ban is so stupid and a waste of money. Wouldn’t it be nice to see the money that is being spend on this law, be spend on schools/after school programs/teenager programs? Too bad that Concord focuses on stupid issues and not issues that matter and can make life changing differences.
Opps… some errors.. it’s late…
those who “do not like walking behind…” and “because the wind blows….”
Can’t we just ban dirt bags and pan handlers? At least the smoke is gone in the air in a second, but the pan handlers and dirt bags are always here.
YES YES YES! I would absolutely support a ban! Second hand smoke kills! There needs to be more enforcement…this is a public health issue that needs to be addressed and NOT ignored. I am proud of our city council and believe they are keeping the residents health in their best interest. I applaud them!
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